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JT
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Message Posted: May 6, 2008 1:59:55 PM

GasBuddy Direct program allows station owners to provide gas price updates for thier stations in bulk into the GasBuddy system. Do you think we should allow station owners to provide gas price information to GasBuddy?
Yes - The more price info the better
No - This is site is for local volunteers only
Yes - Other
No - Other
Not Sure

Post your thoughts about this poll below.
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UtopianZealot
Rookie Author Ottawa

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2015 11:42:35 AM

IMO, volunteers only. I've seen at least a few stations where the price on gasbuddy is matched to the cheapest in the city with an update posted only 10 minutes before I arrive at the station only to see the actual posted price is still a few cents higher, averaging with the rest of the city. Surely we could get some statistical analysis done on the reported information to look for trends in the frequency of price adjustments. Most of the time I would expect the price to remain static except for changes through the day usually at a regular interval. Eg, the new attendee updates the price when they open the store, someone else updates it again when they start their shift. I would expect that adjustments to the prices to be timed to roughly coincide with a regular schedule like this on a day to day basis. If we find there are particular stations that seem to have erratic postings, it may be a safe guess to suggest that the price value has to have a measure of reliability attached. Then we only run into the problem of stations choosing to sabotage the reliability of other stations by reporting false prices from false accounts.
trenmobile
Rookie Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2014 8:47:24 AM

Well, they are already using it (or at least the employees) in my area. If there could be an indicator that the price was posted by the station, and a way to report inaccurate reporting that would work for me. As for inaccurate reporting - this could be for any account. Maybe 5 inaccurate reports in a month would cause that account to deactivate any reporting - but still allow a read-only access to the information.
CaptnKC
Rookie Author Jacksonville

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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 1:11:39 PM

Dealers posting bulk gas prices is based on an average as I understand it. This can lead to misinformation. AS an example I paid $3.22 per gallon at the Gate in Mandarin, FL on 10/20. I went to the Gate in Fleming Island, FL on 10/23 and paid $3.01 per gallon.

Looking at Gas Buddy today the local Fleming Island, FL Shell (32003) is listing a price of $3.22 while the Shell in Orange PArk, FL (5.3 MIles from 32003) is listing a price of $2.90 per gallon.

The Dealer average would be $3.115 for Gate and $3.05 for Shell. The difference between average and actual best price at Gate is 3.3% higher, and the difference between average and actual best price at Shell 5.5% higher.

Volunteer/Member input will still be the most accurate source of prices.
cbrown45697
Rookie Author Ohio

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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 11:34:50 AM

If station owners are allowed to post their prices, I DO believe this would be an advantage to the public. Most owners are honest. (yes, we do have some that are not) If they post their prices, then we can take their word for the actual price (sometimes a truer price)
TwiKan
Sophomore Author Wichita

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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2014 8:47:58 PM

We do NOT need anyone adding prices that are not factual or current. If we allowed station owners or managers to post, they may give prices which are not factual, just to see persons come to their business. Many persons won't look until it is too late, then find they are not pumping at the price they thought they were getting. Just let it the way it is now, I think it works best when it is all volunteer.
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 9:38:16 AM

no we have a big enough problem now with them.they up there competitors and put theres the regular price. me and another buddie has caught them at it.
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2014 10:24:25 AM

NO
Denorrah
Rookie Author Lubbock

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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2014 8:25:45 PM

I prefer volunteers only.
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: May 28, 2014 7:30:42 AM

no thery are apted to raise other stations prices to to better there self.
Suzzoom
Champion Author Nevada

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Message Posted: May 27, 2014 11:56:39 PM

No--more often than not, they get the price wrong, and usually higher. Seems like a "guesstimate."

As for bigdave03's comment, the cash price is posted on the marquee, but the credit price is on the pump. Some stations, like some of the Shell stations I've seen in California, will post both prices. However, they have to have the credit price on the pump, because many motorists will swipe their credit card without checking. If the cash price is on the pump and the credit price is higher, the station owners could open themselves up to lawsuits.
BeckiJ49242
Rookie Author Michigan

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Message Posted: May 9, 2014 10:20:57 AM

The only way I would allow them to post commercially if it's 1 day in advance of the price hike. But I truly DOUBT they would do that. Keep it up by us volunteers!

The only thing is your posting does not allow to list CASH PRICE verses credit card pricing... Just saying
2WW5
Champion Author Seattle

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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 3:41:07 PM

Yes - The more price info the better
bigdave03
Champion Author Denver

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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 3:48:17 PM

I am not sure have seen many time price on sign and price at pump not the same
CJS10mm
Rookie Author Washington

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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 12:47:17 AM

GB_Direct always updates the fuel prices for Belfair WA Safeway in the Credit price it displays the Cash price instead of the 10 cents more per gallon they charge. How do we fix this? It is very alluring to people to pump their gas/diesel at Safeway because it appears cheaper than the QFC next door that is actually cheaper.
wsmith702
Rookie Author Victoria

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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2014 8:39:58 PM

This is a very sensitive topic.....i think that gas buddy should consult legal advise........and i think that station owners should be very careful on what they say or post on this site because of these large company's ability to find out exactly if it is one of there retailer's doing the posting. In todays age of social media i think that people should be very careful. i have looked for a privacy policy but have found none?
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2014 7:12:33 AM

yes, if they would be honest about the prices.
puljujarvi
Champion Author Phoenix

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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2013 10:05:42 AM

Of course they should be able to as long as it is accurate as with any that post should be doing.
Mikew501
Rookie Author Illinois

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2013 7:40:17 PM

Yes as long as what they are reporting is True and up to date by 4 to 12 hours
kerberalt
Rookie Author Fort Worth

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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2013 12:11:38 AM

Yes as long as what they are reporting is accurate
Eric64111
Rookie Author Kansas City

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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2013 12:00:52 PM

I agree with Viking2MD on July 31, 2012. Owners can post prices as a regular member but GB members need to report abuse with the posters name, station, date/time, and price posted. Repeat offenders should have their accounts and posts removed from GB.
datsundriver
Champion Author Houston

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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 5:00:17 PM

There seems to be a lot of inaccurate posting in thus program. perhaps instead of posting as "gas buddy direct" the poster should be known as "station owner". This would be more honest, and let us tell the mods more accurately about certain owners who are posting false prices.

I do have four friends who own stations (franchises) and they always post their own prices when they change, which is usually right after a fuel delivery. They post under their own gas buddy i.d. names. most of the time other gas buddy members keep the prices posted, so they do not have to do this every day.
DrPizza
Rookie Author Michigan

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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2013 3:29:33 AM

This topic has been around for wow, 5 years!? Well as far as im concern, I don't have a problem with it as long as they are honest with there prices. If they aren't, then they should be blacklisted for giving out false gas prices and not to be trusted again.
CymruDewin
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 1:22:56 PM

NO!-
I've been meaning to look up the user GB_Direct for awhile now as there has been many inaccurate posts in my area. I currently traveled to Colorado, and all along the way, found GB_Direct posts that did not line up with the station price. I figured it was some person posting inaccurate prices all over the state. Now I found out that it's a program used by corporate offices of the stations.

I think it's a terrible idea, and I'll now have to start reporting to the moderators about these prices as I'm pretty fed up about the inaccuracy.
In_due_season
Rookie Author Houston

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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 6:22:25 PM

Yes- The more price info the better.
BDNNOD
Sophomore Author Seattle

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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2013 6:50:44 PM

I'D SAY 'YES' BUT ONLY TO LET THEM GIVE PRICES, NOT VIEW AND MATCH PRICES WITH OTHER STATIONS. IT WOULD BE GOOD ONLY TO GET ACCURATE INFO FOR THE CONSUMER.
roadogTX
Rookie Author Dallas

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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 11:02:33 PM

I don't mind if they are honest . there is a place that beats everybodies price but you don't see small print on sign that says cash customers only till you drive in. I have never drove in again
pawnkingfour
Champion Author Georgia

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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:20:31 PM

When you allow gasoline station owners to use GasBuddy.com, they use these information to match higher gasoline prices, raise their own. In the end, consumers are the ones getting screwed.
ItisAJeepThing
Champion Author Tucson

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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 6:36:51 PM

NO.

This practice makes it seem like GasBuddy is going commercial. Who checks these price posts by gas station owners for accuracy and timing?

Keep it members only as far as posting prices. Also, I don't like the display of selected logos for stations that pay.
RZF350
Rookie Author Tacoma

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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2013 8:42:31 AM

No. Owners will manage information to their advantage. Reporting late when price go up. Once you are at the pump, you will probably buy it.
dognald
Rookie Author Vancouver

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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 1:02:31 PM

This is "price fixing" pure and simple. Unfortunately the Competition bureau is either too incompetent or too busy with all the anti-competition jerks in their own Province (Quebec) to get to work out here in BC!
I was updating prices but , no more , as my input just facilitates this travesty!
04ExpyEB_PaTx
Rookie Author Austin

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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 6:58:26 AM

No. I did not know this was being done. I was questioning gas prices at some Stations. I had a hard time believing people on our side of the pump would lie about the price. Lies make people vulnerable. A couple of the stations here were reporting lowest prices, but when I visited, the pumps were closed. There are some Stations that have alternative pricing mechanisms, like with Credit or Gift Cards, or Purchasing and Carwashes. The lowest price using one of those market features was reported. This is unfair when a station not so far out of the way offers a similar but higher price without marketing controls as such. I now know it is the Station Operator that is submitting the wrong prices. I realize it is a bit much, but GasBuddy should give us the ability to Report Bogus prices, and the more hits the station gets for bad prices, they then would get placed on a period of probation and be invisible. If a GasBuddy user tries to enter them, the address is verified and a message appears concerning pricing activity in violation of GasBuddy Policy. Furthermore, we should be allowed to enter comments, without having to enter prices.

[Edited by: 04ExpyEB_PaTx at 12/26/2012 7:00:57 AM EST]
dockersbin
Veteran Author North Carolina

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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 7:10:12 PM

Yes the more info the better. I report daily and ALWAYs find false/incorrect prices.
CSACHB
Sophomore Author Knoxville

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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 5:40:28 PM

I am against the owner's posting their prices. They are not reliable to update the site regularly enough and if we pull into their station to find higher prices, they'll just declare they haven't "had the time" to update it!! Bad move.
prorodeo2012
All-Star Author Bakersfield

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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 4:33:00 AM

good job
pricewar
Champion Author Ogden

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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 3:21:35 AM

No
zebbicat
Rookie Author Scranton

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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:40:09 PM

It's already been said but gas station owners in PA constantly lie about their prices, especially independent Arab/Hindu owned places. I went 2 hours after a posting-- bam! 9 cents higher than reported. I was pi$$ed and never have gone back to that station again. Also... there should be a feature where cash only (as it goes in PA) is a lower price that the "base price" of regular. The cash price is usually the price listed, but most ppl still use cards to pay for gas. There should be a star or * or something to note that the low price is a cash price-- credit is often 3 to 5 cents more.

If there is that option or notation I am unaware of it and have used this site for 5 years or so.

[Edited by: zebbicat at 11/18/2012 2:42:26 PM EST]
Zuegma
Champion Author Nova Scotia

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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:33:42 AM

Absolutely. It might even spur a tad more competition!
US_ICEMAN
All-Star Author Toronto

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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 12:32:06 AM

Yes - The more price info in the system. We all win.
Gas_seekr
Rookie Author Philadelphia

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 7:21:25 PM

I think allowing bulk entries defeats the purpose of the site, making it much more commercial driven.
dognald
Rookie Author Vancouver

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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 3:06:26 PM

First, one will never know if "the gas station" is posting direct.
Second a new little game that I beleive is being played out ; the station employee / owner posts a lower than normal (ie not a "fixed" priced) and then when the penny concious driver gets to the station , the price has either gone up or it was never lowered in the first place?
The beautiful thing about conspiracy theories, they're oft born of some truth!
RAB2010
All-Star Author Kalamazoo

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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 11:39:46 PM

It seems there are already stations that use GasBuddy to set their fuel prices. If the station up the road increases their price, it is a matter of hours, usually minutes, and other stations are changing their prices to match.
PTBpricer
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 10:49:52 AM

Yes- But I have not seen any GasBuddy Direct postings.
Sneakers55
Champion Author Houston

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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 2:44:34 AM

I have never seen a GB_Direct price that was different from the prices at the station.

On the other hand, I have found prices from volunteer spotters that were incorrect. I know they were incorrect because they posted a price for Diesel fuel when the station doesn't sell the product.
rumbleseat
Champion Author Winnipeg

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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 1:37:27 AM

"I think Gas Buddy is a seemingly good idea , hijacked by the "price fixing" gas sellers."
So far off base it isn't worth trying to discuss. 1 forum post? 1,400 points in 5 months? And you figure you can claim GasBuddy is hijacked, just because clearly defined retail companies are allowed to post prices? They haven't hijacked me, or any GasBuddy I know, GB Direct or not, we, the members, with the exception of you, post the vast majority of prices.
PFTTTTTTTTT!!!!!

"stations should be allowed limited price post only if they can give a set time before there next price increase.Ithink a time limit of no less that three days would be a good start"
Do you honestly believe a station that may receive fuel daily, or more often, should be required to guarantee prices for 3 days, even if their costs go up? Ridiculous.
Are you prepared to guarantee you will continue to buy fuel at a higher price for 3 days if the cost to the station goes down? I mean, that would only be fair, right?

Geez Louise, if people haven't figure this programme out by now, it should just be locked, 4 years is plenty of time to try and educate people of anywhere near normal intelligence.

coffeebrake1015
Champion Author Florida

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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 10:37:05 PM

I have gone to tree gas station's close to my home .I pull in and the price of gas at the pump .not the same as the sign coming in! price 5c to 10c more. I made my phone calls.
dognald
Rookie Author Vancouver

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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 5:34:15 PM

I think Gas Buddy is a seemingly good idea , hijacked by the "price fixing" gas sellers.
It further annoys me , the perception that, Gas Buddy, "apparently" is getting ad revenue from the retail stations? Can anyone qualify that as being the case?
after10
All-Star Author Hamilton

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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2012 1:43:10 AM

stations should be allowed limited price post only if they can give a set time before there next price increase.Ithink a time limit of no less that three days would be a good start
pathvet
Veteran Author Los Angeles

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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 2:26:33 PM

In the case of diesel which I having been struggling with, the more/better info is needed.
pkhdonovan
Champion Author Maine

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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 5:01:00 AM

yes more accurate data
fhnorth
Sophomore Author Nevada

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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 1:54:36 AM

Yes, but I think their entries should not be in competition for the $250 gas card.
CoolbreezeFL
Rookie Author Miami

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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 11:34:18 PM

It may help, but needs to be in check, and might conflict with the whole point of us finding gas prices for each other and earning points for prizes.
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