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reb4

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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:39:30 AM

Nonwhite cop kills unarmed white youth, national media, AG and POTUS ignore

"A brutal natural experiment is underway demonstrating the role of race, riots, and radicals in determining whose death is noted, and whose ignored in racialized America when unarmed young men are shot and killed by police. While American and world media, along with the President and Attorney General of the United States, obsess over the death of Michael Brown at the hands of the Ferguson, Missouri police, few people outside of Utah have heard of the remarkably parallel and contemporaneous death of Dillon Taylor, an unarmed young man (and father-to-be) from a gun shot by a Salt Lake City policeman, whose name has not been released, but who has been identified the SLC chief of police as nonwhite."

Read about this late last week and was not able to find anything from CNN or other non "Fox" reports...

Why is that????
Sad that we have

[Edited by: reb4 at 8/25/2014 8:41:36 AM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2014 4:01:14 PM

So reb who was wrongly accused of anything. The cop had reason to believe that he might have been armed. The cop tried to get him to respond in a nonthreatening manner. The dead young man chose not to respond in a non threatening manner and chose to play some kind of silly game. His playing the game resulted in the cop thinking he was about to be shot. The cop fired first. The judgement of the DA was the cop made the right decision.

The young man died of a bad case of the terminal stupids.

This reminds me of another case in Utah not too long back. A young man was walking around with what appeared to be a Japanese sword. He also played some kind of dumb game and refused to listen to the cop. He also is dead. The family are all bent out of shape. The family says the sword that was made to look like a Katana sword was not really sharp so the cop should have know that and played along with the dumb kid. Not gonna happen my friend - the cop saw what appeared to be a weapon that was being brandished. The cop eliminated the perceived threat. If you dont want to be eliminated dont present a apparent life threatening threat to the cops. Its just really that simple.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2014 9:36:18 AM

"Why, they were... as the 911 caller put it ... gang bangers..."


Abd again, there are some posting here who would say the same thing about others because they dress differently or have tats or wear different clothes, etc.

Different doesn't necessarily mean criminal -- it just means different.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2014 9:29:40 AM

"No, but in this day and age, a police officer can't determine that from someone saying "Nah, Fool" and making a move towards his waistband.

What's sad is that this kid was seemingly turning his life around and now he'll never see the promise his future held..."
After he was pushed to the limit by the hard core police tactic...

We now know why he didn't want to be questioned by the police... of course the cop didn't know that... he thought (wrongly) that he had a gun...

I know a cop who worked with High School kids and heard a lot worse than Nah fool"
Why this got so blown out of proportion, I will not know...I guess all citizens need to go to school on how to diffuse situation when wrongly accused....SMH....
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2014 9:24:28 AM

"When a dentist tells you to keep your mouth open, you do it. When a barber tells you to tilt your head you do it. Why is it so hard to do something that the cop tells you to do? he is not asking you to get naked he is asking you to show him your hands, A simple request made difficult by that man. This shooting has been ruled out as justifiable, thanks to the video."Thanks Sissurf, one of MANY differences in ... you go to the dentist and the barber.....

THis kid was standing on the corner and not doing anything wrong....
Officer assumed that he was a criminal... in essence he was guilty until proven innocent...

Officer assumed he had a weapon, because an unknown person reported seeing the three suspects "flashing a gun"... (I believe Utah has a concealed weapon state).

But of course, again, this is a mute point since.... non of the three people were found with a gun... No problem, unfortunately... except they came in hard, assuming a crime was being carried out... and they got their wish...

In my opinion... it was the hard way the police came in, in a NON crime situation...

Totally uncalled for....Why, they were... as the 911 caller put it ... gang bangers...
Yea...
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"When a dentist tells you to keep your mouth open, you do it. When a barber tells you to tilt your head you do it. Why is it so hard to do something that the cop tells you to do? he is not asking you to get naked he is asking you to show him your hands, A simple request made difficult by that man. This shooting has been ruled out as justifiable, thanks to the video."

~ Henry Vasquez1
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 4:50:21 PM

"What I have a problem with is the Kid was NOT the agressor. "


No, but in this day and age, a police officer can't determine that from someone saying "Nah, Fool" and making a move towards his waistband.

What's sad is that this kid was seemingly turning his life around and now he'll never see the promise his future held...
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 4:31:37 PM

When a cop points a gun at you and orders you to do something, if you want to live you obey. Funny how Jessie and Al aren't all over this one. Go figure.....


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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 4:19:04 PM

reb I dont care what skin color who was. It is entirely immaterial to the facts in this case.

As I see it -
1. the cops were responding to a 911 call of three guys acting strangely and one of them bandishing/waving a gun.

2. the cops arrived and immediately two of the three guys, who fit the 911 call description well, raised their hands up and proceeded to prove to the cops that they were no threat.

3. the third one proceeded to not respond rationally to the cops and he also presented a threat to them. Then he did actions that any aware person would consider precursor actions to taking a gun from their pants. The dumb young man did have time to avoid the entire thing. It was his choice to present the cop with an almost instantaneous shoot or be shot decision. The cop rightly made the decision to stop the threat to himself adn possibly others.

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The only persons seemingly at fault in this situation might be the 911 caller who gave false information or faulty information to the operator and the kid who died because he had a case of terminal stupidity.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 4:06:24 PM

fly, you know, I guess it's my bleading heart liberalsim that is showing (and I guess since the guy was white and the cop was non white) there is not interest from the usual liberal posters.... SMH....
What I have a problem with is the Kid was NOT the agressor.

The cop was. And, as it turned out, there was no gun. At least not On the dead kid.....
The kid got shot for I guess... resisting the officers commands and making inappropriate motions that to him (he did not go through the same trainnig videos that the police officer did)... was just expressing himself, and possibly keeping his pants up ???? Unfortunately, this kid won't be able to learn from his mistakes.

He's permanently dead....
Again.... What the kid did was wrong... and the officer was afraid for his life. It's just a shame...

[Edited by: reb4 at 10/2/2014 4:10:20 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 3:39:48 PM

REB - here is a more thorough analysis of the video - even if it from a biased source.
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>>>The officer-involved shooting of 20-year-old Dillion Taylor in Salt Lake City, Utah, is a textbook example of a completely justified shooting of an unarmed person that was driven entirely by the suspects actions. What is still relatively rare about Dillion Taylor’s death is that the entire incident was captured on the firing officer’s body camera. The camera shows that Dillion Taylor refused to comply with a pair of officers who responded to a “man with a gun” call, hid his hands in his waistband under his shirt, and made a sudden movement that looked like an attempt to draw and fire a weapon.
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The reason Officer Bron Cruz shot Dillion Taylor could not be more obvious.

It was a textbook response to the sort of training that every law enforcement officer undergoes, and even the shot placement is as expected for this sort of situation. The first shot struck the chest, the rapid re-engagement of the trigger for the second shot in a “hammer” tends to pull the second shot low.

One person, and one person only, is responsible for the death of Dillion Taylor. That responsible person is Dillion Taylor.<<<

As more information comes out I dont blame the cop at all. based on the information he had and the actions of Taylor he was right in what he did.

I feel sorry for the cop but not Taylor.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2014 6:27:24 AM

Fly, sorry, you are correct.. The parents, friends or loved ones are Outraged. But they are peaceful. And no media coverage.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 10:56:31 PM

I did not say that the family and friends are not outraged and upset and that they dont think their child was unjustly killed. What I said is that they and a bunch of other people are not rioting and looting to protest the actions of the cop.

There is a big difference between what you said and what I said.
Here is the article in the local paper
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>>>Dillon Taylor was not armed when a Salt Lake City police officer shot him to death outside a convenience store.
But in that moment on Aug. 11, Officer Bron Cruz had good reason to think Taylor was pulling a gun out of his pants, Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill ruled on Tuesday.
Taylor, 20, and the two men he was with matched the descriptions of a 911 caller who said three men had "flashed" a gun. And Cruz saw them "making a scene" on their way to the 7-Eleven near 2100 S. State Street.
Confronted by officers, the two men with Taylor held up their hands, while Taylor alone was "noncompliant."
Body-cam video shows that Taylor turned toward officers with his hands in his pants before hoisting his shirt — a gesture officers are trained to recognize as a possible weapon-draw.
"Nothing that Mr. Taylor did assisted in de-escalating the situation," Gill said. "If anything, it escalated things."
Taylor’s shooting was justified, Gill said, not because he posed an actual threat, but because Cruz reasonably perceived a threat.
"Officer Cruz’s belief that Dillon Taylor was armed with a gun and intended to use it against the officers was reinforced by Dillon’s actions and the acts of others," Gill wrote in a letter to Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. "By the time Dillon drew his hands from his waistband, Officer Cruz’s belief that Dillon was presenting a weapon [and ... would use the weapon against officers] was reasonable."<<<

The young man was not acting in a reasonable manner. He was acting as if he was in the process of pulling a concealed weapon from his pants IMHO.



[Edited by: flyboyUT at 10/1/2014 11:00:30 PM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 9:51:00 PM

"Who says that too the police???"

Rnorm, Yea, I actually watched the video ( video associated with the nbc link didn't work).

Like I said last night, I couldn't hear him say it, but the young man should have stopped.


I've actually read several stories on this, Not just the Star Trib or the NBC or ones posted here... However it is tough since there has been so little coverage.




Yes, fly, apparently a lot of people think the cop was justified. and yea, he had a record, and apparently had a warrant which was why he didn't really want a cop to stop him.



I did Read some of the comments the DA made reference that kid might have committed assisted cop suicide (that was really uncalled for, and that D.A. is a piece of work for saying that...)

Yea, I agree no real outrage from the family, or any group that this guy belonged to. Hope someone might be able to learn from this incident...



[Edited by: reb4 at 10/1/2014 9:55:12 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 8:47:05 PM

Oh yeah one big difference ---- out here even though the parents dont agree and feel the cop was wrong and so do a bunch of local citizens........ No one is rioting and torching buildings and looting night after night. They are using the tools provided for by the law to resolve the conflicts.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 8:45:06 PM

Reb there was a spread in the Salt Lake paper about this - it sounds like the cop was justified in shooting the dumb kid. The cop was responding to a call of three kids one with a gun at that location. He got there and found these three kids. Two of them held up their hands when asked and had no problems. This kid played dumb games with the cop and gave every indication that he had a gun under his shirt and tucked in his pants. When the cop felt that he was going to pull out the gun he waited a split second and then shot him.

A bad situation and horrible for the cop but understandable for sure. The DA said the cop was justified. I think the DA is right in this case.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 8:28:13 PM

"Asked by officers to show his hands, Taylor said, “Nah, fool.”


Who says that too the police???






"I wonder if national news will cover this ????"

It was on NBCs National website:


Bodycam video clears officer
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 9:42:54 PM

DA says Dillon Taylor officer-involved killing was justified...


Investigation » Asked by officers to show his hands, Taylor said, “Nah, fool.”



There is a video to the story but I have decided to not post it...Easily found so use your own judgement...


THe video shows Nothing you couldn't see on TV or likely a video game now adays... but I will choose to not post it.



I wonder if national news will cover this ????



I do think the young man chose poor judgement... though I couldn't hear the man killed in the video... (not claiming he didn't say it, just that I can't hear it).




And I would not have done that in my day an age... I have a feeling there is more to this story, but the story put together over the last month (note date of posting compared to date of release of this announcement and the video)...

[Edited by: reb4 at 9/30/2014 9:46:26 PM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 10:59:17 AM

Interesting, no news on this case, YET again...At least not from the media...

Mid Month would have been last week, would it not?
From previous article I posted:"In the Dillon Taylor case, Salt Lake County prosecutors said last week they expect to have a decision mid-month as to whether a Salt Lake City police officer was justified in shooting the man.

The officer who shot Taylor was wearing a body camera, Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank has confirmed. Burbank has said he will release the footage when the investigation is complete."
Am I mistaken on this???Guess there needs to be looting or burning of memorials to get in the news...
SMH
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RNorm said: "I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with an uninformed voting populace...Most people know that elections are held in November, but if you're able to sneak one in in the Spring, then you've successfully pulled a fast one on the populace...which, in the case of Ferguson, may be the case, as they're poor and perhaps not as informed on these things...Just my 2 cents."

--Now, I don't know the laws in Missouri, but here in the Land of Fruits and Nuts, as you well know, they are required to send flyers to every registered voter. So even when we've had those special elections, we know about it. I missed one while I was away on business in the last couple of years. But the point is that the information is out there, and it's not a "secret" election, or only publicized on a website that doesn't even have an address. If someone is indifferent, then that is their problem. And I don't think that has anything to do with socioeconomic status. If you want to vote, you register and you vote. It strikes me as that simple. And if you have to show ID to register and at the poll, so much the better. It prevents the falsified registrations like we saw with ACORN in so many states, Ohio being the most blatant.
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"So are you saying that minority voters are less informed than whites?"

I'd say that was a strawman. He said poor voters are less informed than better-off ones. He said nothing about race.
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2014 11:12:53 AM

In the Dillon Taylor case, Salt Lake County prosecutors said last week they expect to have a decision mid-month as to whether a Salt Lake City police officer was justified in shooting the man.

The officer who shot Taylor was wearing a body camera, Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank has confirmed. Burbank has said he will release the footage when the investigation is complete.

Taylor was exiting a 7-Eleven near 2100 S. State St. with his brother and cousin when officers arrived in response to a report of a man with a gun in the area, said South Salt Lake police, who are investigating the shooting.

A side note on incident.... Only local coverage of this officer shooting... and now it's only in with other related shootings....
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 7:40:13 PM

AFSNCO, an awful lot of jurisdictions do "off-season" elections simply because they don't want the local ballot relegated to the fourth page, on the bottom, below and hidden after all of the other "important" federal, state, county, regional, and miscellaneous elections.

Otherwise, the local issues mostly just get ignored.

And, if people don't pay attention and vote, they get the government they deserve...

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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 5:48:02 PM

"I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with an uninformed voting populace...Most people know that elections are held in November, but if you're able to sneak one in in the Spring, then you've successfully pulled a fast one on the populace...which, in the case of Ferguson, may be the case, as they're poor and perhaps not as informed on these things..."

So are you saying that minority voters are less informed than whites? How did the white people, which this is basically the accusation that was made, know to vote but the minority people did not?

To take it a step further if any of the white conservative posters on this board had posted what you posted it would have been considered a racist comment.

[Edited by: AFSNCO at 8/28/2014 5:48:46 PM EST]
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"I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with an uninformed voting populace...Most people know that elections are held in November, but if you're able to sneak one in in the Spring, then you've successfully pulled a fast one on the populace..."

Give me a break. How many spring elections do they have to hold before the electorate figures out there are spring elections?
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 4:46:19 PM

"I suspect in BOTH cases that the officers involved will be exonerated. I suspect further that both guys will have done exactly what they were trained to do to defend themselves from an attack. But let's see where it goes."


Should be interesting to see what does happen... AC...

It's now been 2 1/2 weeks... wonder what is taking so long...

[Edited by: reb4 at 8/28/2014 4:46:38 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 4:07:57 PM

"I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with an uninformed voting populace...Most people know that elections are held in November, but if you're able to sneak one in in the Spring, then you've successfully pulled a fast one on the populace...which, in the case of Ferguson, may be the case, as they're poor and perhaps not as informed on these things..."

That is exactly right. It is a tactic used in my area to get school levies to pass since the knowledge is passed to those most likely to vote for it so they turn out to vote it through. By the time the opposition hears about the issue being on the ballot, they don't have enough time to get those who might oppose out to vote.

Right, wrong or indifferent, that is the tactic.
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"Apparently nobody else is willing to do the job."

Or nobody else thinks the remaining Ferguson officers are worth hiring.
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"I am trying to figure out what spring voting has to do with minority voting. Are minorities not allowed to vote in the spring?"


I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with an uninformed voting populace...Most people know that elections are held in November, but if you're able to sneak one in in the Spring, then you've successfully pulled a fast one on the populace...which, in the case of Ferguson, may be the case, as they're poor and perhaps not as informed on these things...

Just my 2 cents.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 3:08:37 PM

"So in the light of the ongoing war on voting, to see that a majority minority town is run by minority majority people, elected in local elections that are held in odd years in the spring (i.e., the least likely time for an election in this country), is just another piece of evidence that the war continues on many fronts."

I am trying to figure out what spring voting has to do with minority voting. Are minorities not allowed to vote in the spring?
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sgm complaining about voting rights said: "So in the light of the ongoing war on voting, to see that a majority minority town is run by minority majority people, elected in local elections that are held in odd years in the spring (i.e., the least likely time for an election in this country), is just another piece of evidence that the war continues on many fronts."

--I'm not sure that's justified, sgm? Let's look at another example - New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin (D, now disgraced). Nagin won the New Orleans mayoral race with majority white support. Is it inconceivable to you that the mayor of Ferguson couldn't have won with majority black support? I think you'd have to dig a little and do some research before you make those kind of statements.

As to the cops, I understand Ferguson used to have a number of black officers. Unfortunately, the black officers in this crime-riddled town took a hike, and found new jobs in better jurisdictions where the pay was better and the crime was lower. Now there are only 3 black officers on their force, the rest are mostly white. Apparently nobody else is willing to do the job. They could train up a bunch of black officers and put them on the streets. But there's no guarantee they'll stay on the Ferguson PD.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 1:15:54 PM

"If it sells they will run with it and get people all fired up."

Yes, true.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 1:04:56 PM

Siss, but if the roles were reversed look out now. There would be more marching in the streets, burning of cars and buildings, looting, etc...and then the race baiters would follow along with MSNBC and CNN claiming how racist West Point, MS is and then dig up some other race issue that happened 20 years ago to prove their point.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 12:16:12 PM


I don't see where this has made the news!

Why?!

David Knighten of West Point told The Associated Press on Sunday that he and Weems apparently were followed early Saturday from a Waffle House where Weems had argued with some African-American patrons. Knighten says a man outside the restaurant had waved him over and told him it wasn’t safe for white people because people were upset over the killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. When he entered, Knighten said, Weems was arguing with a couple of other patrons.

Marine goes to restaurant and gets warned it’s not a safe place for whites, leaves with “life-threatening injuries”


[Edited by: sissurf at 8/28/2014 12:19:38 PM EST]
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 11:05:57 AM

Most of the blame goes to the media. I posted an opinion piece yesterday in the "Another Trayvon" thread about how when a white child goes missing the media is all over it but ignore missing minorities for the most part. Same about shootings. If it sells they will run with it and get people all fired up.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 10:32:29 AM

And no looting.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 10:11:34 AM

"I would have gathered up the same cast of thousands who are currently filling the streets and marched them to the polls."

I hope that happens now. We will see.
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 9:57:24 AM

I guess the lamestream media looks upon this as "payback". After all, it's a "tragedy" when a black person is shot by a white person, but when a white person is shot by a black person, that doesn't fit the story. After all, it's not a story of a minority being oppressed - it could even be interpreted as the minority doing the oppressing. That doesn't fit with the liberal worldview. I get it. But any unjustified shooting of ANY person is a tragedy and needs to be broadcast.

I suspect in BOTH cases that the officers involved will be exonerated. I suspect further that both guys will have done exactly what they were trained to do to defend themselves from an attack. But let's see where it goes.
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Because most don't seem to care or believe something like this happens. White people don't seem to band together to fight injustice against their race. Guess there's not a need for that, but it's coming. Actually it shouldn't be race based, but behavior based. If something is wrong, everyone should join together and protest or do whatever to change things to make it right, fair, and equal.
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 9:10:23 AM

"I guess I can connect the dots for you."

You did not connect the dots for me. If I were part of an "oppressed 67%", I would have gathered up the same cast of thousands who are currently filling the streets and marched them to the polls.
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 8:55:07 AM

Sad their is so little in the news on this...

"SALT LAKE CITY — Protestors rallied at Library Square in downtown Salt Lake Monday night, demanding justice for Dillon Taylor. The 20-year-old who was shot and killed by police nearly two weeks ago, in South Salt Lake at a 7-11.

There were about a dozen protestors marching the streets asking why police haven’t released any more information about what happened the night Taylor died. His aunt, who was more like his mother, was at the protest and said all she wants is answers."
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 11:06:09 AM

"Never pegged you for a conspiracy nut sgm4law. But at least now we all know and can look at your posts with the appropriate amount of skepticism."

I don't think it's organized enough to be called a conspiracy.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 10:45:48 AM

"Are you off your meds?"


"That is a personal attack. I'm sorry you don't like the assertion I made."

SGM, I'm sorry if you took offense by that comment from MudToe, but I find the comments by The Tower was quite indicative of off year elections... The small community I live does not have elections during regular elections, and the "parties" are not democratic or Republican... also another crazy thought, but wouldn't minorities have to run for the office and it could be that the people that do run, were not good candidates?






[Edited by: reb4 at 8/26/2014 10:46:38 AM EST]
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 8:17:38 AM

"Are you off your meds?"

That is a personal attack. I'm sorry you don't like the assertion I made.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 8:15:41 AM

Here is the obituary to the young man shot apparently un necessarily...







WIth all the coverage and speakers, and White House attention in Ferguson, thought I would at least post the young man's obituary here...


[Edited by: reb4 at 8/26/2014 8:16:04 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:29:05 AM

"That is the use of as many tactics as they can think of to reduce the number of people who are in "suspect" classifications (i.e., probable Democratic votes), who are eligible to vote, can register to vote, can access the polls conveniently."

Funny then that the five most populous cities, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Philadelphia, all hold their mayoral elections in odd numbered years and all have Democrat mayors.
Never pegged you for a conspiracy nut sgm4law. But at least now we all know and can look at your posts with the appropriate amount of skepticism.

[Edited by: theTower at 8/26/2014 5:31:53 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 11:33:43 PM

sgm: "...elected in local elections that are held in odd years in the spring (i.e., the least likely time for an election in this country)..."


So elections being held in odd years or in the spring are somehow evidence of a conspiracy to dissuade minorities from voting? Someone needs to help me here. Do minorities do something special in the spring of odd numbered years that would prevent them from voting? Are they incapable of reading a calendar in odd numbered years? Do they have to lay in a coffin filled with their native soil during that time?

Are you off your meds?



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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 10:03:10 PM

sgm4law, I'm kind of surprised at your "conspiracy theory" response. And disappointed.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 9:35:21 PM

"Why is that? How can 67% of the population not control who is elected?"

"Do the 30% of white people living there control the ballot boxes?"

I guess I can connect the dots for you. There is a lot of talk about the GOP war on voting (yes, I'm one of the people who posts on that topic pretty often here). That is the use of as many tactics as they can think of to reduce the number of people who are in "suspect" classifications (i.e., probable Democratic votes), who are eligible to vote, can register to vote, can access the polls conveniently. The war is one wing of the GOP effort to win elections, as some of the party seems to have decided it isn't even worth the effort to try to win the votes of those people.

So in the light of the ongoing war on voting, to see that a majority minority town is run by minority majority people, elected in local elections that are held in odd years in the spring (i.e., the least likely time for an election in this country), is just another piece of evidence that the war continues on many fronts.

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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 9:04:51 PM

shows their bias, dosen't it?
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:56:21 PM

wow.... this is scarey... or maybe this explains alot.....





"Al Sharpton MinisterAlfred Charles "Al" Sharpton, Jr. is an American Baptist minister, civil rights activist, television/radio talk show host and a trusted White House adviser who, according to 60 Minutes, has "become the president's go-to black leader". "




wiki - link....






SMH



[Edited by: reb4 at 8/25/2014 8:57:23 PM EST]
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