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mnrick041

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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:50:05 PM

Conservative or Religious Conservative?

What are you and what defines you as such?
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2014 1:11:14 PM

SemiSteve: "I believe in working for what one wants and also getting paid for the wealth one earns."

Unless you're one of the Koch Brothers, not part of the "99%" or a wealthy conservative...

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 9:26:26 PM

Amen, Jay!
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 9:10:41 PM

I am a liberal atheist who is against the dole. I believe in working for what one wants and also getting paid for the wealth one earns.
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 9:11:03 AM

So, perhaps someone can explain to me why I should respect views that are wrong-headed, illegitimate, stupid, and destructive?

Should I respect the views of the local skinhead, Klansman, or Black Panther?

Should I respect the views of a neo-Nazi, a "Fred Phelps", or a Muslim Jihadist?

Should I respect the views of an Obama voter who doesn't even know why they voted for him?

Obama supporters say the darndest things
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 10:48:15 PM

I am capitalist.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 10:45:57 PM

How about libertarian who has a religious belief?
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 10:43:35 PM

Jay: <<<"If more people regardless of political ideology or religious belief respected each others views, having a civil debate without the name calling, the political divide would not be so far and wide to cross.">>>

--The correct answer :)

I define myself as "me" (independent thinker that usually, but not always, leans conservative). If they ever start the "common sense" party, I'd be on it like white on rice.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:51:09 PM

If more people regardless of political ideology or religious belief respected each others views, having a civil debate without the name calling, the political divide would not be so far and wide to cross.
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:24:57 PM

If more liberals, religious or otherwise, were as fair minded as conservatives, the political divide would not be so far and wide to cross.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 8:47:40 PM

If more conservatives, religious or otherwise, were as fair minded as you, the political divide would not be so far and wide to cross.
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 8:10:03 PM

I was recently conversing with a co worker about politics, he pointed out that he disliked listening to a particular conservative talk show because it "pushes the god angle too much". He went on to say that he is a Conservative, not a Religious Conservative and that while he believes in a Conservative agenda he does not want god pushed on him by anyone.

I could not agree with him more, that is exactly the way I feel. I firmly believe in many common sense conservative viewpoints like protecting our right to buy, possess and use firearms for self defense or hunting. I believe in secure borders and deporting illegal aliens. I believe in lower taxes for ALL and that the Govt has no right to take from the "rich" and redistribute it to the less productive. I am against Obama Care.

On the other hand, as I have indicated in various topics here in the past, I am in favor of marriage equality, I am opposed to the death penalty and I believe abortion should be discouraged but not banned. These are things that might put me at odds with some Religious Conservatives but it is just not my brand of politics and a politician gains no ground with me by harping about abortions or same sex marriages.

But at my core I am still a conservative and I will not hesitate to vote for a anti gay or pro death penalty politician if it means I am voting in favor of our Second Amendment rights or defending our borders from aliens.

While I do not always agree with all of the views of my fellow conservatives here I respect them and I hope that during this election season we can all respect each other's ideas and view points.
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