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AnotherOne

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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 12:29:47 PM



Showing their sympathy for a young man being killed!

More heartbroken sympathy!

I haven't followed the story closely enough to know what I think about the actual death of the young man and who was in the right or the wrong.

But I do know that this type of nonsense has NOTHING to do with his death. It is simply an excuse by lawless thugs to cause mayhem and destruction and to use any excuse to steal. It is an illustration of a breakdown in society and morality. It is the logical result of our out of control liberal influence on society.

It is time to call this what it is - "WRONG"!

Let's see if the progressive libs around here have the decency and honesty to do just that.

Or will they predictably use this as a typical Obama diversion form his disastrous presidency just before the election to rile people up and to divide people and pit one American against another American for political advantage int he election.

Trayvon Martin family attorney to represent slain Missouri teen

Vandalism, looting after vigil for Missouri man

For all I know, there may be reason to be upset with the police - OR with this young man.

I also know that it is NO excuse for riots and stealing.

Or for Obama to use for political points to deflect attention from his gross negligence and incompetence in office.

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sissurf
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:16:26 PM

OK so Marty has no clue!

That's what I thought.

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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:14:03 PM

For those who seem to have a grammar problem. -- Those curlyque squiggly things at the end of what look like sentences are question marks. It means those things to which they're attached are questions and not statements. In the context of a reply to an inane question, it means the reply is sarcasm in the extreme. (BTW, inane means silly or stupid).



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 10/1/2014 4:15:02 PM EST]
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:07:51 PM



Let's try this again, for those that seem to have a reading or comprehension problem!

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sissurf "Why didn't the officer shoot the other accomplice. "

Marty "Ran out of ammo? Couldn't pick out the accomplice because they all look alike? Wet his panties and ran off to hide?"

sissurf "Let's talk about this situation a little bit more."

"What type of gun did the officer have?

How many rounds did it hold?

Did the officer carry speed loaders or a mag.?

How many shots were fired?"

So Marty what's the answer to these important questions?
Or are you still searching for my spelling mistakes once again?! lol!


[Edited by: sissurf at 10/1/2014 4:14:57 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:59:53 PM

"C'mon man, its there, didn't you see it? You must not be looking hard enough. Just looking at a picture of that "thug" on FB lets you know what happened...*sarc*"

And the tats... don't forget the tats on Brown's homeboy.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:52:36 PM

"There are some here who would label you a liar if you didn't support their view"

Too bad that's not why you were called a liar.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:40:06 PM

"Interesting, coming form the person scouring the internet for videos of black men robbing stores..."


*ROTFL*!!!!!
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:39:29 PM

"Show me Brown attacking Wilson. Show me Brown physically attacking Wilson. Show me the struggle over the firearm. Show me the shot being fired. Show me it spilling out into the street."


Here, let me help:

C'mon man, its there, didn't you see it? You must not be looking hard enough. Just looking at a picture of that "thug" on FB lets you know what happened...*sarc*

LOL, SMH
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:25:02 PM

"AND the decision of the grand jury."

Lol, that too...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:24:19 PM

"I'm a bit shocked myself!"

Interesting, coming form the person scouring the internet for videos of black men robbing stores...

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 10/1/2014 3:24:45 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:23:56 PM

"Then there are the rest of us who are just waiting for as many facts to come to light as possible, regardless of race."

AND the decision of the grand jury.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:23:33 PM

"looks like our resident Knight in shining armor could use some Grace"

Hello, pot.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:20:34 PM

"Knowing you, Marty, you probably didn't even view the video I posted,
because I wrote down exactly what was said in the video."

1. You don't know me.
2. I did view the videos.
3. Read more carefully. Your linked videos do not SHOW what you claim they show. Show me Brown attacking Wilson. Show me Brown physically attacking Wilson. Show me the struggle over the firearm. Show me the shot being fired. Show me it spilling out into the street.

There are some here who would label you a liar if you didn't support their view. I'm not one of them, thankfully.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:19:09 PM

"The liberals and hate-mongers were just certain that WHITE Hispanic George Zimmerman was guilty and many even called for his execution without trial, but he was cleared once the jury saw ALL the evidence."

He was found 'not guilty' of 2nd Degree Murder because, for one, the prosecution was too overzealous in its charge...

"The race-baiter haters just can't seem to wait, though."

Which seem to be on both sides of the argument. White people seem quick to label Brown a thug who is lawless, hardened criminal whereas the black community has quite a few people attacking the Officer as being a racist.

Then there are the rest of us who are just waiting for as many facts to come to light as possible, regardless of race.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:16:45 PM



sissurf "Why didn't the officer shoot the other accomplice. "

Marty "Ran out of ammo? Couldn't pick out the accomplice because they all look alike? Wet his panties and ran off to hide?"

Let's talk about this situation a little bit more.

What type of gun did the officer have?
How many rounds did it hold?
Did the officer carry speed loaders or a mag.?

How many shots were fired?

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sissurf
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:06:13 PM



Marty, "Gee... the video you linked shows none of what you claim."

And what is it that I'm claiming?

Knowing you, Marty, you probably didn't even view the video I posted,
because I wrote down exactly what was said in the video.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 2:36:19 PM

Gee... the video you linked shows none of what you claim.

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sissurf
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 2:03:39 PM


Aug 9 Brown shot.... Aug 10 report of struggle of officer's gun being fired in his car

Brown attacks officer Wilson by shoving him back in his unit.

Brown physically attacks officer.

There's a struggle over the firearm, where the gun is fired.

It then spilled out into the street, app 30 - 35 feet.

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maryanneusa
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 11:51:34 AM

Ummm, it does indeed appear to make you a liar.
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 11:28:01 AM

Isn't it funny that MuddleheadMarty doesn't want to discuss what the construction workers ACTUALLY SAID when they were interviewed afterwards...

Two Jefferson County construction workers describe Michael Brown shooting

Odd, isn't it?

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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 11:19:41 AM

That you chose to take what I posted out of the context of the accompanying article doesn't make me a liar.



"that is really scraping the bottom of the barrel"

Just targeting some of the audience.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 10:26:51 AM



Tower, "MTM and Btc1 were both discussing a video they had seen of Brown getting shot with his hands up.
Then it mysteriously vanished and neither of them could ever produce any corroborating evidence that said video existed."

Isn't it interesting that things liberals claim to be true just mysteriously VANISH?

Like emails?!

ROTFL

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 10:26:21 AM

MTMarty, "Couldn't pick out the accomplice because they all look alike? Wet his panties and ran off to hide?"

WOW Marty ---- that is really scraping the bottom of the barrel - even for you.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 10:09:59 AM

"In fact, let me QUOTE what you said, MTMarty, on September 29"

It goes back before that.
It goes back when this first came out. MTM and Btc1 were both discussing a video they had seen of Brown getting shot with his hands up.
Then it mysteriously vanished and neither of them could ever produce any corroborating evidence that said video existed.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 9:47:35 AM



MTMarty, "Nobody ever claimed there was a video of the "whole incident from the very beginning.""

YOU, the Knight In Shining Armor, claimed that the video showed the thug Big Mike Brown with his hands up!

In fact, let me QUOTE what you said, MTMarty, on September 29:
"We know he was unarmed with hands raised when he was shot. We even have video,"

Do you want to do a mea culpa about that and admit you lied, MTMarty?

Isn't it just such an inconvenient truth when your own words come back to call you a liar?



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 10/1/2014 9:48:22 AM EST]
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maryanneusa
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 8:27:09 AM

looks like our resident Knight in shining armor could use some Grace
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 7:12:56 AM

"Still no actual video showing the whole incident from the very beginning
that lead to the end result as claimed by Marty, Norm, and btc1!"

Nobody ever claimed there was a video of the "whole incident from the very beginning." There isn't one. There is, however, strong evidence that those who claimed that Brown was surrendering and yet Wilson fired anyway are truthful.



"If this is the video that they have been bragging about for so long now,
it's not all cracked up to what they wanted all of us to believe!"

Oh please, I don't give one whit what any of you believe. You give yourselves entirely too much credit.


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maryanneusa
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 5:33:08 AM

Oh piddle, our Knight in less than shining armor, has tarnish on his armor.
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 1:52:50 AM


Still no actual video showing the whole incident from the very beginning
that lead to the end result as claimed by Marty, Norm, and btc1!

If this is the video that they have been bragging about for so long now,
it's not all cracked up to what they wanted all of us to believe!
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 1:49:16 AM



I'm a bit shocked myself!
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 12:33:12 AM



MTMarty, "Couldn't pick out the accomplice because they all look alike? Wet his panties and ran off to hide?"

How racist and how despicable!

When you think that progressive liberals cannot sink any lower, they do.

SMH

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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 11:38:18 PM

"Doesn't that sound strange?"

No.


"Putting up crime scene tape means the incident is L.O.N.G pass!"

The word you want is "past", and the incident happened about 40 seconds prior to putting the crime scene tape up.



"Johnny on the spot, huh!"

On the other hand, Brown's body lay in the street for 4 hours after the tape was put up. Maybe Wilson's cop buds knew what Wilson was going to do. Semper Paratus, as it were.




"Why didn't the officer shoot the other accomplice. "

Ran out of ammo? Couldn't pick out the accomplice because they all look alike? Wet his panties and ran off to hide?




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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 11:07:07 PM



MTMarty, your claim of having video is so dishonest and transparently bogus.

Do you let your kids in your classes get by with such ignorance and stupidity?

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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 11:06:20 PM



sissurf, "What I've been wondering for a long time, is why Brown's accomplice was not shot, especially with everyone excusing Wilson as a racist and shooting Brown for no reason.

Why didn't the officer shoot the other accomplice. "

Excellent question!

I guess those Ferguson police are just so good that they were standing in the street with crime scene tape in case something happened there. They must have had similar crime scene tape cops all over the city just waiting for something to happen.

SMH

and ROTFL

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sissurf
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 11:03:16 PM


I'm with you, on that one, teacher tim.



[Edited by: sissurf at 9/30/2014 11:04:17 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:54:54 PM

The liberals and hate-mongers were just certain that WHITE Hispanic George Zimmerman was guilty and many even called for his execution without trial, but he was cleared once the jury saw ALL the evidence.

Not even sure there's enough evidence here to convince a grand jury that there should BE a trial, but I'll just sit back and let justice take its course.

The race-baiter haters just can't seem to wait, though. I'm wondering if Southwest set up special monger flights to St. Louis from New York and Chicago?
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:46:47 PM



What I've been wondering for a long time, is why Brown's accomplice was not shot, especially with everyone excusing Wilson as a racist and shooting Brown for no reason.

Why didn't the officer shoot the other accomplice.

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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:33:50 PM



"An attorney for the man who filmed the video told CNN he started recording about 40 seconds after the shooting."

Man oh man that police officer putting up the crime tape was very quick!

Johnny on the spot, huh!

GIVE ME A BREAK!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:24:27 PM

updated 7:49 AM EDT, Fri September 12, 2014
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:20:34 PM



lol Marty!

In the video itself, it states that another officer is putting up the
crime scene tape!

Doesn't that sound strange?

Putting up crime scene tape means the incident is L.O.N.G pass!

This is "NOT" the actually video of the shooting like you said you had!

Good try though! lol!

This wouldn't convince me or another one else, who had enough sense.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 9:34:54 PM

Video evidence - reposted
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 8:15:02 PM



jdhelm, good one!

ROTFLOLOL

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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 8:10:40 PM

180 degrees - south:-My grandpa used to sell milk after he retired from farming. One day, one of his customers where he stopped, was a young woman in her 40's and she had ordered 50 gallons of milk.

That's a lot of milk, grandpa said; what will you be using it for?

She replied: I'm going to take a bath in it.

Grandpa asked: Do you want it pasteurized?

Se responded: No, just up to my chin.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 7:12:25 PM

"And you are EVER so ready to say that the officer in Ferguson was in the wrong evern without video evidence."


Um, don't put words in my mouth, as I haven't said anything about the officer, other than to point out how you and so many others are immediately ready to exonerate him without having seen the totality of the evidence and how some of you went on and on about Brown giving him an orbital fracture that he didn't have...

Again, the Grand Jury will say one way or the other their conclusion and then we'll see what happens after that...

The only thing this thread is doing now is speculating because NONE of us are on the Grand Jury and have seen the totality of the evidence.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 6:42:40 PM



RNorm, "when its clear from video evidence that the officer(s) was in the wrong."

And you are EVER so ready to say that the officer in Ferguson was in the wrong evern without video evidence.

SMH

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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 5:52:34 PM

"Every case should be assessed on a case by case basis. If the officer acted inappropriately, than that officer should be held accountable. We can post extremes from both sides of the issue all day till the cows come home, but no two situations are the same, only the law which governs each situation should be consistent."


In principal I agree, but, as was just recently seen here, there are just too many people who will STILL give the officer "the benefit of the doubt" when its clear from video evidence that the officer(s) was in the wrong. And sadly, too many of those people sit on juries and allow guilty officers to walk free and the victimized are denied justice.

That is one of the reasons that people everywhere are becoming cell phone camera vigilanties and officers are desperately trying to confiscate damaging video evidence and the police can do no wrong crowd are trying to pass legislation all over making it illegal to film the police, so no damaging evidence can be weighed against them.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 5:35:19 PM



It is ever so funny watching libs try to argue out of BOTH sides of their mouth at the same time.

ROTFL

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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 5:07:22 PM

Every case should be assessed on a case by case basis. If the officer acted inappropriately, than that officer should be held accountable. We can post extremes from both sides of the issue all day till the cows come home, but no two situations are the same, only the law which governs each situation should be consistent.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 5:06:39 PM

Situation No. 3: If you are a black man carrying nothing and you raise your hands in surrender you are a threat and you get shot.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:58:14 PM

To be fair RNorm, the BB gun incident is very grey in that it does 'appear' that he makes a move back towards the BB gun although it looks real enough - the caveat there being the lack of audio.

The driver's license issue 'seems' pretty clear.

But your point is valid;

"I wonder why the "police can do no wrong" crowd can't see the glaring differences there..."

They can definitely do wrong. They are human - which doesn't excuse it, but it certainly explains it.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:53:17 PM

Weasel: <<<"It would seem to me that we are seeing the two extremes on display here... I don't think Brown was lawless, although certainly not a saint nor do I think the Officer fired his weapon simply because of the color of Brown's skin.">>>

--There are laws in Missouri that specifically prohibit assault, robbery, and failure to heed a law enforcement officer. Mr. Brown has satisfied the threshold of lawlessness from that day alone, let alone the other crimes he had been prosecuted for as a juvenile, or other crimes he may have committed but was never charged with.
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