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AnotherOne

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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 12:29:47 PM



Showing their sympathy for a young man being killed!

More heartbroken sympathy!

I haven't followed the story closely enough to know what I think about the actual death of the young man and who was in the right or the wrong.

But I do know that this type of nonsense has NOTHING to do with his death. It is simply an excuse by lawless thugs to cause mayhem and destruction and to use any excuse to steal. It is an illustration of a breakdown in society and morality. It is the logical result of our out of control liberal influence on society.

It is time to call this what it is - "WRONG"!

Let's see if the progressive libs around here have the decency and honesty to do just that.

Or will they predictably use this as a typical Obama diversion form his disastrous presidency just before the election to rile people up and to divide people and pit one American against another American for political advantage int he election.

Trayvon Martin family attorney to represent slain Missouri teen

Vandalism, looting after vigil for Missouri man

For all I know, there may be reason to be upset with the police - OR with this young man.

I also know that it is NO excuse for riots and stealing.

Or for Obama to use for political points to deflect attention from his gross negligence and incompetence in office.

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 10:17:06 PM

mnrick041 I agree - I think we should first have a fair trial and if he is found guilty he should get one appeal that has to be resolved within six months and then if the appeal fails he should be executed in the most expeditious manner available and his dead body given to his relatives or dumped int the trash if they dont want it. He seems to be as you said - less than human. If found guilty he has forfeited his right to life.
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 10:10:47 PM

Flyboy, that is simply disgusting. That creature should have been shot down in the streets like the rabid animal that he is.

On his way out of the courtroom he shouted out "God’s wrath is on white America.” That is real intelligent. I suppose that poor white woman who he beat half to death is a racist for reporting him?

I hope this creep gets enough time to keep him in prison for the rest of his rotten life.

God's wrath is on him.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 4:28:55 PM



johnnyg, "In the future when the only way to improve Ferguson involves a bulldozer it will be blamed on whites neglect and racism."

And dishonest Al the Liberal Racist will be leading the charge from his wheelchair!

SMH

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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 12:05:10 PM

I was born and raised in a suburb of Detroit.

In other words, I've seen this before and have a good idea how it turns out.. .
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2015 4:43:15 PM

Now for some of the non violent new from Ferguson. Whether or not the shooting was justified is really beyond the point now. Brown is dead and Wilson career in law enforcement is ended. The grand jury has made its decision and like it or not its done. It appears the DOJ is about to announce its findings. From what is being leaked the results will not make the hands up don't shoot crowd happy.

Now that all of the riots or hopefully over and the courts have done their job we will have to see what happens in this lower middle class area. In the beginning money poured in to help those affected by the unrest. That money is starting to dry up and the area now will have to do its own recovery. In the upcoming election there was almost no interest in running for election for the three open seats.

What hasn't changed and even seems to be getting worse is that fact the North County and North City are high crime area. There have been at least 14 murders in the North in the first 20 days of the year.
The real legacy of can be seen in stories like this.
Ferguson restaurant closes doors for good I have a bad feeling this is only the start of what will become a trend for Ferguson.

The city announced that they want to put 160 more police on the street. The "Justice for Mike Brown" movement says they don't want more cops. They say they want the money used to create jobs. Well all the protests and violence has done nothing. They were unable to force indictment or charges by the DOJ. They did manage to drive locally owned business out and remove jobs from the area. That is the only legacy that will remain after the dust settles and a new cause is found.

In the future when the only way to improve Ferguson involves a bulldozer it will be blamed on whites neglect and racism.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2015 4:04:27 PM

Does this black lowlife matter????
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2015 2:43:22 PM



BRAVO for this Sheriff from Milwaukee.

I am sure MTMarty will HATE him because he is a cop - one who tells the truth.

He calls out liberal gutter snipe Charlatan Sharpton.

He also calls out Eric INjustice Holder and Barack Racist Obama.

David Clarke, Wisconsin sheriff: ‘Al Sharpton ought to go back into the gutter he came from’

"Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke didn’t pull any punches in his assessment of the Rev. Al Sharpton and characterized him on national television as less than intelligent and unworthy of respect.

“I don’t expect anything intelligent to come out of the mouth of Al Sharpton,” Sheriff Clarke said, Mediaite reported. “We know he is a charlatan. Al Sharpton ought to go back into the gutter he came from. The police officer is owed a lot from him, Eric Holder and the president of the United States.”

btw, this sheriff is BLACK!



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 1/23/2015 2:44:43 PM EST]
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2015 12:29:08 AM

I am seeing reports that the justice department is floating trial balloons about not pursuing a Darren Wilson civil rights charge. Does that mean that Eric Holder's office is now supposed to be a racist partner in the "good-ole boy network"? I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 11:31:32 PM

Johnny: <<<"All most all of the looters were also black. Should they start arresting whites just to make the numbers look good.">>>

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911 operator: <<<"911, what is your emergency?">>>

Mrs. Jones: <<<"Someone is breaking into my home, I am at 123 W Main Street in downtown Ferguson">>>

911 operator: <<<"How many are there?">>>

Mrs. Jones: <<<"They are talking, there are at least two.">>>

911 operator: <<<"Can you see them from where you are? I need a description please.">>>

Mrs. Jones: <<<"They're both males, in their 20's, one has a red shirt and jeans, one has a white shirt and red shorts, they're both appear to be black...<interrupted>.">>>

911 operator: <<<"You say they are black, are you sure? Both of them?">>>

Mrs. Jones: <<<"yes ma'am">>>

911 operator: <<<"I'm sorry dear, in adhering to the federal mandate in equal opportunity crime guidelines, we already have met our quota for this quarter for blacks, we only have crime response openings at this time for a few more Hispanics, one Asian, two Arabs, and four whites, please call us when and if you can meet this criteria, have a great day! <CLICK> ">>>

[Edited by: EZExit at 1/22/2015 11:35:38 PM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 10:52:44 PM

There are more web links than you can shake a stick at:

Trayvon Martin’s Involvement In Local Burglaries Covered Up By Media, School, Police, Prosecutors

Police buried Trayvon's criminal history

Trayvon suspended THREE times for 'drugs, truancy, graffiti and carrying burglary tool' and did he attack bus driver too? New picture emerges of victim as parents claim it's all a smear .Some people still hang onto the "innocent angel" song - just like they did with Mike Brown - umm when you do the research, it says otherwise. Neither of those two were angels.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 10:07:14 PM

Thanks rumble. There are no arrest records for Trayvon Martin. Besides, sissurf (whose post I quoted in my reply) asked specifically for Zimmerman's prior record.



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 1/22/2015 10:08:21 PM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 8:55:59 PM

"yet he fials to list the arrests records of Martin, why is that"
Seriously, are we still trying to defend Zimmerman by slagging Martin instead of letting George's record speak for itself?

Martin was suspended from school twice that year, he had no criminal record. Had the option to arrest him been exercised, one would have been for marijuana, one for possession of a burglary tool. Unlike Zimmerman's exploits, NO weapons allegations, NO assault allegations, NO uttered thresta. Again, Martin, whether he was a good boy or a criminal mastermind in training, is dead, never to bother anybody again, and Zimmerman has been getting into trouble on a regular basis.
George Zimmerman Again Arrested On Assault Charges
The horse is dead, further beating won't change Zimmerman into a paragon of virtue.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 1/22/2015 8:59:12 PM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 8:14:00 PM

Under the heading of same stuff different day.
A stolen car runs from the police. The car crashes and one of the passengers gets out holding a gun. The officers shoot and the idiot holding the gun, killing him. Just like clockwork the family adamantly claims their little angel had problems in the past but never had any guns and the cops are lying.

We saw it with the sandwich shooter.

Even when there is video there are those who will not believe what they see.

Even when a local black alderwoman witnesses the shooting and says it was justified. There are people still won't accept anything except the notion of evil police gunning down innocent black men.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 6:50:43 PM



johnnyg, "Should they start arresting whites just to make the numbers look good. "

According to Al Sharpton as well as at least one of the progressive liberals around here and the liberal racists, the answer is YES!

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 6:20:28 PM

Marty try this on for size - the cops go where the crime is. That is their job. It just so happens that the crime tends to be highest in numbers and severity in the 'hood'.

Now maybe you have some kind of excuse for it - if so it would be nice to hear it.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 5:45:29 PM

again - Marty fails to recognize truth in arrest statistics

Marty lists 2 records for Zimmerman - yet he fials to list the arrests records of Martin, why is that Marty? Why?

and your comments about white looters - take a look at the video now online of the Ferguson looters and count the number of "whites" in the video.

then let's hear your excuse again.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 5:34:14 PM

"If black are committing a disproportionate number of the violent crime then they there will be a disproportionate number of blacks charged and incarcerated."

If greater scrutiny and police effort is given towards addressing violent crime in black neighborhoods, then there will be a disproportionate number of blacks charged and incarcerated. Cops find trouble where they look for it. Look harder for it in black neighborhoods and viola... more blacks arrested.



"All most all of the looters were also black. Should they start arresting whites just to make the numbers look good."

Arrest whites?? Certainly not!! Everyone knows white "rioters" are just boys being boys, ruffians with too much youthful energy.




[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 1/22/2015 5:35:46 PM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 5:24:41 PM

>>It may well be that large numbers of blacks are in jail because many cops selectively enforce the law.<<

We have had 16 murders in the St. Louis city and County area in the first 22 days of the year. They all have one thing in common. in all of the cases where there has been a person charged or a description of a suspect all have been black. If black are committing a disproportionate number of the violent crime then they there will be a disproportionate number of blacks charged and incarcerated.


All most all of the looters were also black. Should they start arresting whites just to make the numbers look good.

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 1/22/2015 5:27:15 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 4:46:48 PM

"Did Zimmerman have a record before he ran into Trayvon Martin?"

— July 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and accused of resisting an officer with violence near the University of Central Florida campus after a scuffle with police. The charges were eventually dropped after Zimmerman entered an alcohol education program.

— August 2005, Zimmerman's former fiancee filed for a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman responded by requesting a restraining order against her. Both requests were granted. No criminal charges were filed.


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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 4:35:20 PM

"The main point is ENFORCING THE LAW!"

It is.
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 3:53:56 PM

Did Zimmerman have a record before he ran into Trayvon Martin?

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Marty "It may well be that large numbers of blacks are in jail because many cops selectively enforce the law."

The main point is ENFORCING THE LAW!

I would also like to point out that many people who don't have the funds stay in jail longer then those that do have money that can bail themselves out.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 3:27:39 PM

I guess this is more of Marty's "selective enforcement" stuff. Another gentle giant acts stupidly and dies for it.
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>>>City officers shot Holmes shortly before 10 p.m. as he got out of a stolen red Chevrolet Monte Carlo while holding a gun, police said.

Police said the Monte Carlo Holmes was riding in had been reported stolen Dec. 5 in south St. Louis. Police Chief Sam Dotson said officers on patrol in the Kingsway East neighborhood began following the Monte Carlo after they saw the driver make an illegal U-turn about 9:45 p.m. The car sped off and other officers saw it driving in and out of alleys in the area.

The car was being followed by police when it hit a retaining wall near an alley in the area of Marcus and Cottage avenues. When two officers approached the car, Dotson said, the passenger got out holding an Intratec 9mm pistol that had an extended magazine that could hold as many as 30 rounds.

The officers told the man to drop the gun, Dotson said. When he didn’t, the officers opened fire, the chief said.

Holmes was wounded and taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Dotson said the driver of the car, also 19, cooperated with the officers and was taken into custody. Police did not identify the driver Thursday.<<<

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Lets see here now - one person bails out of the car holding a gun and when told to drop it doesn't and get shot by the cops. Another person in the car "cooperated with the officers and was taken into custody". One person is alive the the other person is assuming room temperature. What is the difference Marty? I know - I know - I know - it must be more of that selective enforcement thing going on. .
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Once more Marty is expounding from a position of total ignorance it seems.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 1:05:38 PM

It may well be that large numbers of blacks are in jail because many cops selectively enforce the law.
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flyboyUT
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Another racist legislator it seems. Maybe - just maybe those people are involved with the justice system because they did something like break the law ya think?
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>>>Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ) is once again joining the ranks of the Al Sharptons of the world by fueling more racial division. He sent out an email this past week that blamed the criminal justice system for prosecuting black Americans.

According to Booker, the justice system is the reason so many blacks are in jail today. He even compared incarcerated criminals to slaves.

Here is an excerpt from Booker’s email:

This over-incarceration of our population in general and minorities in particular has created the tragic reality that there are now more black Americans under criminal supervision today than there were slaves in 1850. The criminal justice system is an affront to our American ideals of liberty and basic fairness.<<<
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But then someone who actually has a brain to think with says this ---
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>>>Charles Measley, director of Garden State Liberty PAC, said of Booker’s email:

Because of the welfare state President Johnson enacted, you have the dissolution of the African American family and because of the lack of this family structure, unfortunately a large number of young African American males fall into crime to fill the void of what their family would normally fulfill. You can look at the statistics of the arrests from one of two ways: the first is from the politically charged way Cory Booker is looking at it which is looking at it in reverse determining that a large number of African American’s arrested equals racism in the justice system. The second is the collapse of the African American family structure due to the effects of the welfare state put in by President Johnson which leads to them falling into crime.<<<
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So which is it folks - are large numbers of folks tossed in jail because they broke he law or are they being picked on as racist idiots like Booker say?
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 9:55:43 AM

That would surely make for another childish cop hissy-snit and sulkish work slowdown.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 1/22/2015 10:00:16 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2015 8:38:35 AM

Does anyone know when the bus loads of vandals, rioters, and looters will show up in front of the Department of Justice in Washington, DC?

If they time it right, they might get Holder to overrule his investigators before he leaves office.
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 9:25:26 PM

"I would go home and lock the door behind me"

And if you didn't want to lead the person to your home?
Or if the person was between you and your home?
Trayvon is dead, we will never know if he was destined to become a serious career criminal.
Zimmerman is alive, and instead of thanking his lucky stars he is slive, he keeps getting into trouble. There is no denying his other encounters with the law, starting at age 21, including two incidents in 2005, five incidents in 2013 and others.
A nice guy doesn't threaten other motorists with death, a thug does. A nice guy doesn't throw a wine bottle at his ex-girlfriend, a thug does.
A genuine Neighbourhood Watch person doesn't arm himself to look for troublemakers on foot, a thug does.
How many incidents does it take for people to actually see his true character?
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 8:57:25 PM

>>I would go home and lock the door behind me. If Trayvon had done that, he'd be alive today.<<

If I remember correctly, and I may be mistaken, Trayvon did go home and then returned to looking for the man who was following him. I would have to so a search and the results for Trayvon are numerous and filled with a lot of misinformation.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 8:54:04 PM



These people were so GRIEF STRICKEN for a poor young black boy that they just formed a 'tidal wave' of GRIEF!

Surveillance Video Shows Tidal Wave Of Looters Ransacking Ferguson, Missouri Market
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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 8:21:53 PM

". . . put yourself in Trayvon's pjace for a moment. If somebody you didn't know was driving around after you, and got out to track you in a dark neighbourhood, how would you have reacted if you felt cornered? Whether you were up to no good or not, would you have called out and invited him to tea and crumpets?"

I would go home and lock the door behind me. If Trayvon had done that, he'd be alive today.

Cornered? Trayvon circled back to confront Zimmerman. By your own narrative, that was a dumb thing to do.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 5:29:43 PM

>>In spite of Obama and the progressive liberal LIES about Ferguson Officer Wilson, the Justice Department has quietly CLEARED him of ANY wrong doing in the Ferguson case.<<

It will be interesting to see how this report is worded. Regardless of what the report says there will be those who will only be able to see that a white police officer shot a black teen. The facts leading up to the shooting mean nothing. The only thing they will see is a white officer shot a unarmed black teen so it must be racial. That's what they want to hear and that's the only thing they will accept. just like the sandwich shooter and the kid caught on video pulling a gun on a cop who also was killed resulting in riots and looting, including one of the local activists who was calling for peace. He called for peace when on camera but when he was off camera he was one of the looters.

Get ready for more riots.
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 4:23:47 PM



In spite of Obama and the progressive liberal LIES about Ferguson Officer Wilson, the Justice Department has quietly CLEARED him of ANY wrong doing in the Ferguson case.

Let's see what the lying progressive liberals will do with this news!

ROTFL

Justice Officials Moving to Clear Officer in Ferguson Shooting of Civil Rights Charges

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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 11:00:58 AM

A1, nst, put yourself in Trayvon's pjace for a moment. If somebody you didn't know was driving around after you, and got out to track you in a dark neighbourhood, how would you have reacted if you felt cornered? Whether you were up to no good or not, would you have called out and invited him to tea and crumpets?

" it is amazing how some can continue their blind ignorance of facts"

Facts such as the number of times Zimmerman has gotten himself in trouble since his trial? He is not showing good character.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 1/21/2015 11:08:31 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 10:56:21 AM

Ferguson, MO is having an election on April 7 for three council seats. The filing deadline was yesterday. I have been searching the internet for the full list of candidates who will be running. No luck.

I guess Ferguson is yesterday's news. The MSM has moved on.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 9:46:26 AM



nstrdnvstr, it is amazing how some can continue their blind ignorance of facts, isn't it?

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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 8:00:48 AM

rumbleseat, "Follow the bouncing ball.
Zimmerman was the IDIOT thug who got out of his car with a loaded weapon to track somebody in the dark, even though police had been called. Had he waited fot the police his head would have been fine."

Seriously???

So Martin had a right to pound Zimmerman's head into the pavement?

No, the blame lies with the attacker, Martin. If he would have called the police, or just kept walking instead of assaulting Zimmerman, he wouldn't have been shot.

Martin was the IDIOT that started the violence. Martin took the action of attempting to kill, if not gravely injure another person. I would have shot Martin too if he was pounding my head into the pavement.
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2015 6:17:19 AM

Maybe they realize that if they ran the city it might be worse than it is now.

There are these provocateurs, people like Maria Chappelle-Nadal, Sharpton and Jesse Jackson who are just haters and don't seem to care about the facts. They act as if Michael Brown was "murdered" because of his race when the real fact is that he committed a crime that day, then had a violent encounter with a Police Officer.

Maybe a good percentage of the black population are actually decent people who are not going to go for that nonsense, are not going to let people like Sharpton lead them around on a leash. Maybe they are happy with the leadership that they have.

I don't know what the deal with Ferguson is, why/how it is a economically depressed area but that seems to be their major issue there, that people don't have jobs but that is not really a issue that the City Council could make much of a impact on.

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 8:21:43 PM



Why should a black run?

It would take away one of their grievances about "The Man" oppressing them.

Sharpton may be bribing them NOT to run so that he can continue to raise his nefarious bribe money from everyone.

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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 5:12:43 PM

"Just hours before the deadline to file two of the open seat have only one candidate filed to run."

How much coverage will this get in the MSM?
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 5:06:58 PM

Johnny,is there some kind of an IQ test that candidates have to have to run for - - - (kidding) - ok, so do they have to be able to read? (again, kidding) - - - ok, do they have to have - - - n/m

SMH
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 4:31:34 PM

For months we have been hearing about the racial issues in Ferguson. We heard about the prominently white police force and we heard about the majority white political leadership.

Today is the last day to file as a candidate for election in the city of Ferguson. After the uproar about this mostly black community being run by a bunch of whites you would expect to see black trying to take control of their community. Three of the six seats are up for election, all held by whites. All three of the incumbents have announced they will not seek reelection. Three of the seats held by whites are wide open for the taking.

Just hours before the deadline to file two of the open seat have only one candidate filed to run. It seams that the people of Ferguson are more interested in rioting, looting, arson and disrupting others lives than taking control of their own town. This says more about the attitude in Ferguson than any slogan or protest. It says they won't get involved in fixing their problem if it mean taking responsibility.
Few candidates file for Ferguson election as deadline nears
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2015 4:31:07 PM



The mindless progressive liberal "Black Live Matter" useful idiots have done it again here in the Twin Cities!

They have blocked both directions of an interstate freeway!

Totally closed it.

Might be time for an out of control 18 wheeler to clean the gene pool.

SMH

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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2015 12:17:17 PM

"If you were Zimmerman, getting your head pounded into the pavement repeatedly by Martin obviously didn't knock any sense into it."

That didn't come out right. Let me try again:

Zimmerman's getting his head pounded into the pavement repeated by Martin obviously didn't knock any sense into it.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2015 11:00:03 AM

"it would be stupid for Zimmerman to try to track what could be an armed and dangerous criminal with no self-defense measures available to him."

It was stupid for Zimmerman to try to track what could be an armed and dangerous criminal in the first place.

If you were Zimmerman, getting your head pounded into the pavement repeatedly by Martin obviously didn't knock any sense into it.




[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 1/13/2015 11:01:07 AM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2015 10:53:10 AM

"If you were Zimmerman, getting your head pounded into the pavement repeatedly by Martin"

Follow the bouncing ball.
Zimmerman was the IDIOT thug who got out of his car with a loaded weapon to track somebody in the dark, even though police had been called. Had he waited fot the police his head would have been fine.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 1:20:19 PM

rumbleseat said: "Most of us are actually intelligent enough to know that once the police are called, it is their job."

Actually, that's not very intelligent at all.

If you were Zimmerman, getting your head pounded into the pavement repeatedly by Martin, would you just passively take the beating until either the police arrived or you were dead? Dumb dumb dumb. Extremely dumb!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 12:09:51 PM

"it would be stupid for Zimmerman to try to track what could be an armed and dangerous criminal with no self-defense measures available to him."

Most of us are actually intelligent enough to know that once the police are called, it is their job. It isn't as if Zimmerman was trying to protect a child, a senior, or a woman from attack and quick action was required. I have patrolled my neighbourhood in the past. If there is an untoward situation or person, once police are called, I direct them, I do not flatter myself that I can do their job.
If Zimmerman had been killed that night, people would have been calling him an ansolute idiot for even thinking of trying to track somebody down, especially after the police had already been called.
Argue this until the cows come home and die of old age, nothing changes. He acts like an immature thug, and is proving to be a danger to those around him.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 1/12/2015 12:12:43 PM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 11:58:52 AM

"What a sad, sordid affair that was."

How do you (universal you) control them dang juries?

From OJ to Zim, they just seem to screw up time and again. <<S>>
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 11:57:01 AM

" you stalk somebody out of the blue, from the perspective of the person being stalked, and yet when they 'defend themselves' from the 'stalker', the 'stalker' gets to defend themselves by shooting the person they were stalking"

Makes you wonder who he will kill next. It's just a matter of time.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 11:44:56 AM

"No one is or ever did say Z. was some kind of plaster saint but he does and did have the right to defend himself."

I always found that excuse to be rather silly - you stalk somebody out of the blue, from the perspective of the person being stalked, and yet when they 'defend themselves' from the 'stalker', the 'stalker' gets to defend themselves by shooting the person they were stalking.

What a sad, sordid affair that was.
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