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AnotherOne

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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 12:29:47 PM



Showing their sympathy for a young man being killed!

More heartbroken sympathy!

I haven't followed the story closely enough to know what I think about the actual death of the young man and who was in the right or the wrong.

But I do know that this type of nonsense has NOTHING to do with his death. It is simply an excuse by lawless thugs to cause mayhem and destruction and to use any excuse to steal. It is an illustration of a breakdown in society and morality. It is the logical result of our out of control liberal influence on society.

It is time to call this what it is - "WRONG"!

Let's see if the progressive libs around here have the decency and honesty to do just that.

Or will they predictably use this as a typical Obama diversion form his disastrous presidency just before the election to rile people up and to divide people and pit one American against another American for political advantage int he election.

Trayvon Martin family attorney to represent slain Missouri teen

Vandalism, looting after vigil for Missouri man

For all I know, there may be reason to be upset with the police - OR with this young man.

I also know that it is NO excuse for riots and stealing.

Or for Obama to use for political points to deflect attention from his gross negligence and incompetence in office.

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2015 12:28:13 AM



johnnyg, "I think the problem the Black Lives Matter crowd is having..."

You got it all right.

But their FIRST and foremost problem is with their name BLACK LIVES MATTER.

IF they really believed that black live matter, they would have for YEARS been talking about and demonstrating against the countless young black men who have been violently killed by other young black men.

To this crowd, they PROVE by their actions that black lives do NOT matter to them.

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 11:53:02 PM

I think the problem the Black Lives Matter crowd is having, is that they are finding that most police shootings are justified, at least to a civilized society. So to keep the racist mantra going any shooting of a black is automatically unjustified in their eyes.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 11:49:42 PM

If the intended victim of the knife attack had shot the knife wielding girl it would all be OK and part of city life.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 9:36:32 PM



mnrick, "SHE HAD A KNIFE AND WAS CHASING SOMEONE WITH IT. HER OWN MOTHER CONFIRMS IT. SHE DEMONIZED HERSELF."

You got it.

But then later that same night, the mother said that her dear innocent daughter only had a knife for "her own protection".

ROTFL

I guess that is why she took a knife, left the safety of her apartment, went after other people with the knife OUTSIDE the apartment, refused to put the knife down and continued her attack until the officers shot her.

Minor point to also clarify, the officers shot her to disable her. She is fine and in the hospital. I guess that proves the lies that MTMarty and Al Sharpton and liberals continue to tell.

But the mother blames the cops for shooting her dear little innocnent choir girl daughter who never did a thing wrong in her life.

SMH

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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 8:48:28 PM

Police here shot a black teen girl who was chasing someone with a knife on Friday knife.

The fact that she had the knife is undisputed, her own mother told the media that the girl had left the apartment with a "kitchen knife" to confront some other girls.

The girl is OK and has been charged with 2nd degree assault for the knife incident that led to the shooting.

According to the media, Black Lives Minnesota posted this on their site:

"Black Lives Matter Minneapolis released a statement early Friday condemning the shooting and saying that Harris was unarmed, but edited it later to remove the reference to her being unarmed, stating: “That’s no excuse for shooting a high school student.”

“The police’s attempts to vilify Tania and immediately justify their unnecessary violence toward her in the media reflects a larger pattern in which black victims of police shootings around the country have been demonized,” the organization said in a statement before holding a rally at 6 p.m. Friday in Minneapolis to demand police be prosecuted. “We are witnessing a policing culture that insists on shooting first and asking questions later.”

SHE HAD A KNIFE AND WAS CHASING SOMEONE WITH IT. HER OWN MOTHER CONFIRMS IT. SHE DEMONIZED HERSELF.

These people are such a joke. Decent black folks should run these fools out of town.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 8:31:22 PM

I hope you do find the link - it should be enlightening for sure.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 8:12:24 PM

>>SE - want to guess on how long it will take for some here to place all blame on the cops?<<

It didn't take long. One neighbored interviewed by local press said, "I don't know why they had to shoot him? I don't know that he had a knife. They had "AK47s" and stuff. They can't just shoot people."

AK47 really?
That was on the local news. I'll see if I can find it on the website to get a link.

By the way. The cops used a non leathal round first. It didn't work. In fact they say it just made him madder.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 4/18/2015 8:13:53 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 12:22:29 PM

SE - want to guess on how long it will take for some here to place all blame on the cops?
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2015 12:00:12 PM

A St. Louis man was killed when he charged at police while wielding a knife. The incident was captured on an officer's body camera.
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 11:48:42 PM

"I guess the only question that remains, as far as the officer having any justification in doing what he did, is are there any circumstances in South Carolina law that allow an officer to shoot someone fleeing them "

It seems like the city's chief of police would have been aware of such a law prior to making the public statement he did. But who knows?
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 11:26:08 PM

I finally saw the video today, and it sure looks like the cop shot him for no good reason. I had heard that the video showed the cop dropping something next to him after the fact, which I had assumed to be his taser, but I really couldn't make that out on the video. I saw no weapon in the person's hands as he ran away and he certainly, unlike the case in Ferguson, was making no aggressive moves toward the officer.


I guess the only question that remains, as far as the officer having any justification in doing what he did, is are there any circumstances in South Carolina law that allow an officer to shoot someone fleeing them when they aren't armed and aren't posing an imminent danger to a bystander at the time (e.g. if you are fleeing an officer in a car and are running over people on the sidewalk then the officer might be justified in shooting you even though you weren't trying to run over him).



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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 7:08:52 PM

"I can't believe that liberals have not been here foaming at the mouth about the shooting in North Charleston, SC."

The officer has been charged with murder. He will have his day in court, and a jury will decide his fate.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 7:04:03 PM



I can't believe that liberals have not been here foaming at the mouth about the shooting in North Charleston, SC.

We need to wait for all the facts to come out.

But from what I have seen, unless there is major stuff unknown, I hope the police officer is convicted of murder and spends the rest of his life in prison.

No matter how short his time in prison is, it may very well be 'the rest of his life' since he will not find prison a pleasant place as a police officer.

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tnhusker
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 6:55:05 PM

If they stop committing crimes they wouldn't have troubles.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 5:20:58 PM



SE3.5, "I still find it incredible that all that discord and demonstrating only produced a 29% voter turn out."

It must be the new version of Mitt Romney's "47%"!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 4:53:54 PM

"I still find it incredible that all that discord and demonstrating only produced a 29% voter turn out."

That is pretty sad. Hard to have empathy for that community when it appears they won't try to help themselves...

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 4/8/2015 4:54:13 PM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 3:32:58 PM

"Good for them IF the candidates were qualified and will be competent leaders." ROTFL

In most small towns the qualifications for town council are "breathing". If you can collect the signatures to get on the ballot, you are qualified. I am sure the newly elected are just as qualified as those they replaced.

I still find it incredible that all that discord and demonstrating only produced a 29% voter turn out.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 3:24:43 PM

SE3.5 said: "Two african americans elected to Ferguson City Council yesterday. Good for them."

Good for them IF the candidates were qualified and will be competent leaders. If they were elected just based on the color of their skin it could be pretty BAD for them.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2015 1:50:54 PM

Two african americans elected to Ferguson City Council yesterday. Good for them.

Here is the tragedy. After all the turmoil in Ferguson only 29% of eligible voters went to the polls. Really?
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 10:04:33 PM

This is how the animals in St. Louis behave.

Mike Brown question sparks MetroLink beating caught on video

To bad the victim wasn't carrying.

Pay attention the behavior of the other passengers on the train.

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 3/29/2015 10:06:15 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2015 10:31:32 PM

But Marty --- you are slightly in error on that one my friend --- I have taught a little in the classroom. Very little - like only a total of maybe 15 to 30 days or so but I have taught in a classroom of high school kids.

Now how many days have you worked with law enforcement Marty?

Unless there are some parts of your life you have not mentioned yet I do believe that I have taught more than you have worked as a LEO.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2015 9:55:48 PM

"Amazing how some who never stepped foot in a classroom know so much about teachers that isn't true."

Amazing how some who never put on a badge and uniform know so much about police officers that isn't true.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2015 12:53:06 PM

fly>>>"I also know that teachers and school administrators do tend to take the side of the teachers until there is really strong proof that something is wrong."

"Amazing how some who never stepped foot in a classroom know so much about teachers that isn't true."

Indeed. Not just Teachers, but in some cases the education system (remember, fly thinks it is utterly foolish, if not a waste of money, for kids to begin looking at their futures). Apparently you don't start thinking about a career path until you are already in college.

LOL - he does like to play his games though! <s>

The reality, however, is that unless we get back to supporting our own kids as well as others in the community we will keep sliding down this slippery slope. They need to be inspired and once they choose a path, mentored to help stay the course... This is especially important for kids whose parents for whatever reasons can't or won't act towards this end. I remember hearing once that 'it takes a village...'.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2015 12:13:12 PM

"I also know that teachers and school administrators do tend to take the side of the teachers until there is really strong proof that something is wrong."

Amazing how some who never stepped foot in a classroom know so much about teachers that isn't true.


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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 25, 2015 12:03:26 PM

Is this a good shoot or a bad shoot (justified or not) - - - - what do you think?
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>>>Thomas’ parents are obviously distraught over the death of their son, and don’t think that he deserved to be shot.

“He was a loveable guy, he would do anything for anybody,” she said. “He loved cars, he loved his family. He just had a baby. She’s not even five months old!”

“They could have shot the tires out; could have shot the radiator. Where’s he gonna go?” asked Huey Thomas, Nicholas’ father. “I mean, he’s gonna get out and run. I just think it was totally unnecessary.”

While I empathize with the pain they must be experiencing upon losing a child, I’m appalled that Felicia and Huey Thomas would place the blame on the police for their son’s death.

There is the death of a criminal at the hands of law enforcement officers and average citizens on an almost daily basis in the United States, and in almost each and every one of these instances, the death of the criminal is most directly related to the actions that the criminal took that put the lives of law-abiding citizens or peace officers in immediate jeopardy of serious injury or death.

It was Nicholas Thomas’ repeated criminal actions that earned him a criminal record as a violent felon, Nicholas Thomas’ decision to violate his parole, Nicholas Thomas’ decision to steal a car instead of facing the consequences for his repeated criminal behavior, and Nicholas Thomas’ decision to attempt to use a vehicle as a deadly weapon against one or more sworn officers of the law… again.

Nicholas Thomas is responsible for his own death just as certainly as if he put a loaded gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.

As for Huey Thomas’ complaints that officers should have shot the tires or the radiator, these are simply words I would attribute to a combination of pain and ignorance. Shooting at the tires or radiator might cause the car to eventually stop, but would not have addressed the immediate issue of Nicholas Thomas attempting to run down one or more police officers at that very moment. Officers had to take out the person driving the vehicle to end the immediate threat, and they did.

This was Nicholas Thomas’ third attack on law enforcement officers.

He has no one to blame for his death but himself.<<<

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.So what do you folks think - were the cops justified in what they did or not????

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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 1:44:17 AM

"I also know that teachers and school administrators do tend to take the side of the teachers until there is really strong proof that something is wrong."

I would like to see you prove that.
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 1:15:01 AM

"Agreed, however you don't know whether the cop you're facing is an abusive cop until it's too late."

Given how rare it is to actually get shot by a cop, particularly if you're not running around with a weapon threatening people, this would not seem to be a big problem.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2015 6:51:16 PM

The animals in Ferguson are at it again. One of the complaints is that there are not enough black officers in Ferguson. Well take a look at how the peaceful protesters treat one of the few black officers in Ferguson.

WARNING: THIS VIDEO CONTAINS LANGUAGE THAT SOME VIEWERS MAY FIND OFFENSIVE

If you are offended by harsh language hit mute. The video tells what the officer have to deal with even without the verbal abuse.

For the life of me I can't understand why there are any police left in Ferguson.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2015 11:28:42 AM

""Agreed, however you don't know whether the cop you're facing is an abusive cop until it's too late."

The same could be said for the black in Ferguson, or the protesters."

Indeed. They are called 'strangers' for a reason...
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2015 12:18:40 AM

"Agreed, however you don't know whether the cop you're facing is an abusive cop until it's too late."

The same could be said for the black in Ferguson, or the protesters.

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 3/15/2015 12:19:04 AM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 9:57:50 PM

"The ignore button is right there. You're welcome to use it if you want, but I'm not backing down just to generate your (or anyone else's) respect."Ever hear of self respect?
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 9:56:37 PM

Still do not understand at all this seemingly irrational distrust/dislike /fear of all cops based on a bad experience you may have had.

You have been shown that some small percentage of teachers (which you are one of) are also guilty of some heinous crimes against defenseless students. Do you feel people should paint all teachers with that brush. Yet you seem to think its fine to paint all cops with a broad brush. Is there a difference between painting all cops or all teachers with the slanderous brush you do? Waht about if in the past someone has had a bad experience with a member of a different race/ethnic background - do your rules fit and are they just or fair?

Your statement of fear or whatever towards all cops because of a bad experience in the past flat does not make sense nor does it comport with what you say is your strong religious beliefs. What do you label someone who says they believe one thing but they continually do the opposite?
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 8:55:17 PM

"Just unwarranted mental damage to defenceless children"

As opposed to unwarranted death to defenseless unarmed civilians and unwarranted mental anguish to their survivors.



"If you are going to continue your stupid anti-police mantra, you are going to continue to generate disrespect from those of us proud of family members who have served to protect the lives of the rest of us from the dregs of society."

The ignore button is right there. You're welcome to use it if you want, but I'm not backing down just to generate your (or anyone else's) respect.


[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/14/2015 8:57:42 PM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 8:40:45 PM

"But no unarmed students shot and killed by teachers"

Just unwarranted mental damage to defenceless children.
If you are going to continue your stupid anti-police mantra, you are going to continue to generate disrespect from those of us proud of family members who have served to protect the lives of the rest of us from the dregs of society.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 8:30:57 PM

"Slapping, sex abuse, force feeding, taping to a chair ~~~~~~~~~~~ Wow!"

But no unarmed students shot and killed by teachers, and no teachers exonerated by a grand jury and found justified for what they did because, after all, we presume they are telling the truth, and no teachers looking the other way when they see an abusive colleague because those in the know will end up jailed too. And no student's character and upbringing questioned when that student is abused or force fed or taped to a chair. Nosiree-bob. Are we still making progress?



"I feel that your dislike of all cops based on the actions of a very few is not fair nor is it rational."

Dislike and distrust are close cousins. Feel whatever you like.


[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/14/2015 8:35:55 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 7:57:08 PM

OK we are making progress of a sort here now.

So you do admit that some teachers abuse kids. Very few I admit and when they do they almost always get caught and are penalized. But it does happen. I also know that teachers and school administrators do tend to take the side of the teachers until there is really strong proof that something is wrong. This is the same "protect your own" feelings all professions get. The more unfounded attacks they get the more defensive the profession tends to be.

I do know for a fact that there are tools and mechanisms to deal with bad cops that very often are reported by their own fellow cops. It happens in Utah every year - we have a special group set up to deal with it. There are both cops adn civilians on this board.

I do know in the USFS when I worked in it that on more than one occasion complaints by the public resulted in a Forest Service Law Enforcement Officer being suspended from law duties and subsequently removed from position - aka fired.

So Marty while I can understand your dislike if you had a bad experience it is not just (or Christian for that matter) to think ill of all cops. Likewise you would not think people should paint all teachers with the brush of the child abuser because some teacher did it at one time.

I feel that your dislike of all cops based on the actions of a very few is not fair nor is it rational.

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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 7:36:40 PM

It seems teachers should be avoided whenever possible!!
Slapping, sex abuse, force feeding, taping to a chair ~~~~~~~~~~~ Wow!
Thank goodness we have police to deal with the abusers!
Teacher Abuse

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 3/14/2015 7:38:06 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 6:34:56 PM

"Does that make sense to you?"

It does to a lesser degree. Come talk to me when teachers shoot and assault students with impunity, and get away with it.



"You still maintain that just the sight of a badge and uniform frightens you"

I didn't say the badge and uniform frighten me. I said they were things to be avoided, like giant potholes in the road or folks with contagious diseases.



"Don't teachers have the wall of chalk dust they maintain to protect themselves from unjust attacks by parents whose kids are bad students."

No. Teachers are required by law to report even suspected abuse of children by any adult. I have submitted such reports myself, and in at least two cases prevented further abuse.






[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/14/2015 6:39:03 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 5:25:27 PM

Are you not a friend?

Ok let me throw your statement right back at you -- I (and my dad) have met and read about more than one abusive teacher, so my assumptions are not without foundation.

Does that make sense to you? Will you distrust all teachers you meet and assume they are a danger to kids and are abusive?

So you met one or a couple of cops who should not keep their positions of trust. But from that you continually generalize that all cops are not to be trusted and probably are abusive and no one is safe around them?

I have worked with a lot more cops and other law enforcement folks than that and have not met any of them who betrayed their trust. The ones I met and worked with put in long hours doing a job you might not wish to do at some risk to their own safety. Next time there is a major pot farm bust going on - go with the cops and see how much fun it is. The next time there is a domestic violence call - you go in and deal with the people. The cops will wait out in their car for you to handle it.

Once more my friend I think you are in error concerning your assumption that all cops are aggressive brutes that must be restrained for your protection.

Now on that so called 'blue wall of silence you keep harping on. Don't teachers have the wall of chalk dust they maintain to protect themselves from unjust attacks by parents whose kids are bad students. The more people like you unjustly attack and slander cops/teachers/nurses/doctors or whatever the higher that wall of distrust they will have.

You know we have this strange thing called the assumption of innocence where we are required by law to assume a person is not guilty of a crime until they are tried and found guilty. Yet you still maintain that Wilson did something wrong --- regardless of the multiple investigations that found the evidence and witnesses corroborate his story.

You still maintain that just the sight of a badge and uniform frightens you.... Why is that? Why do you not live what you say you believe? Or dont you accept all of our laws and basic freedoms and stuff like that? You know we cant pick and choose what parts of our freedoms we will accept.

Moving on to what you have termed "people of faith" Define the term - what does that mean to you????

To me it means those who try their best to actually live by what the faith they profess says. ALL OF IT!!!!!!!!

That does not mean using bits and pieces of it to throw at others and claim they are not "people of faith".

The people committing atrocities in the Middle East claim they are "people of faith" dont they. They quote often and long from their book of faith/religion to justify their atrocities.



[Edited by: flyboyUT at 3/14/2015 5:29:41 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 4:13:18 PM

Make whatever assumptions you want. It's a free country. I (and my dad) have met and read about more than one abusive cop, so my assumptions are not without foundation.

Your calling me "friend" is odd, to say the least.



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/14/2015 4:14:19 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 3:27:24 PM

Marty I do believe your making some rather wild assumptions. I was just asking if we are allowed to make similar assumptions to yours.

You seem to have met or read about a bad cop. We have all either experienced or read about a less than stellar teacher. Can we not make the same unfounded assumptions about teachers you make about cops. If you say its not fair to do so with teachers maybe you might stop and rethink your thinking about cops.

FYI
- you have no idea at all what my opinion of all teachers/educators is.
- you also have absolutely no idea at all of my thinking on "people of faith" -- whatever you mean by that term. But dont be too upset - it probably is a fair guess that my opinions just might be a tad right of yours.

Back at ya friend.....


[Edited by: flyboyUT at 3/14/2015 3:28:13 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 11:59:14 AM

You misrepresent (again) what I said. I said I think it best for me to assume they all are and keep my distance whenever possible. We don't know which ones abuse their authority, and the ones who don't and won't turn in the ones who do.

Unless teachers carry the same authority as cops and people presume that what comes out of a teacher's mouth is the truth by virtue of a teacher's position as they do cops, your analogies hold no water whatsoever.

You have already formed your opinion of all teachers (and Democrats and people of faith) based on the few you've encountered in your lifetime. Allow me the same luxury you take for yourself. Assume what you want.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/14/2015 12:00:13 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 11:34:28 AM

Hey Rumble - a thought just came up. That poster is saying that all cops are abusive or should be assumed to be so because a small percentage of them are.

Shall we apply the same logic to those in his profession. We all know some teachers are abusive in a particularly sick way to the students in their care. Does that mean that we assume all teachers are predators and we act accordingly?

Do we apply this same reasoning to all classes of people? Like Democrat or Republican politicians. After all some where found out to be 'dirty' in multiple meanings of the word. Do we treat all of them as potential felons?

We know some members of a particular faith committed atrocities in the name of their faith a few hundred years back - that gives up permission to persecute present day members of that faith I guess.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 11:23:58 AM

I wouldnt have phrased it so politely Rumble but I have wondered that for a while concerning this poster.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 11:19:23 AM

"So you assume any officer you meet is abusive?"

Yeah.


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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 11:12:19 AM

"however you don't know whether the cop you're facing is an abusive cop until it's too late"

So you assume any officer you meet is abusive? Jeez, what damaged you and left you so freaking paranoid?

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 10:13:32 AM

A1 --- your ideas on the bear are kind of interesting - we had a case in northern Utah similar to what your talking about. There was a bear causing some concerns in a campground area that the state fish and game folks either didn't catch yet or there was some disagreement if they should transplant it or just shoot it. Whatever the state carp and coot cops knew of the bear. a few miles away and not in a campground just a wide spot int he road type informal campsite a family was camped. The bear came in camp and grabbed their young son and hauled him off and killed him. The bear was killed a couple of days later. The parents sued the state because the state didn't deal with the bear aster and didn't warn the people in the forest about the bear. They got a handsome cash settlement from the state.

Now on one hand you have the folks screaming that bears have rights too and the people are invading their forest and to leave the bears alone. Then you have the people saying the state must remove all dangers of going into bear habitat. Which idea do you want to push?????
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 9:19:56 AM

"Agreed, however, the actual abusive officers in all levels are in the minority."

Agreed, however you don't know whether the cop you're facing is an abusive cop until it's too late. And you can't expect the "good" cops who know about the abuse of abusive cops to say anything... that blue wall of silence thing. It's a crapshoot (can I say crapshoot?). They have the guns, they have the authority of the badge, they have the uniform. All they lack is integrity.

Thanks, but no thanks.



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/14/2015 9:21:30 AM EST]
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 2:09:55 AM

Johnny: <<<"It is now official that the QT will not be rebuilt. In its place a center for the Urban League will be built. So instead of a commercial outlet that pays taxes there will now be a not for profit that not only doesn't pay taxes but will take the commercial property off the tax rolls.">>>

--One small step towards neighborhood blight, one giant leap towards Detroit.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2015 12:27:05 AM



rumbleseat, "When the crowd and media was asked how they would have felt had the bear jumped from the tree, and run down a child they had no intelligent answer.
here is no sense to the continued police can do no right arguments, they are offensive BS."

Once again, BRAVO rumbleseat!!

Good for you.

Are you sure you are not becoming a conservative? ;-)

If the police had not taken care of the bear and it injured a child or anybody, the cry would have been "Why didn't the police do something? They just stood and watched!"

And double BRAVO to you about the cop haters!

Appreciate you, rumble. (I may be destroying your liberal credibility by congratulating you. ROTFL Sorry.)

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2015 10:55:12 PM

since the QT in Ferguson was burned by rioting thugs there have been questions as to whether or not the QT would be rebuilt. The QT provided merchandise, jobs and tax revenue for Ferguson.

It is now official that the QT will not be rebuilt. In its place a center for the Urban League will be built. So instead of a commercial outlet that pays taxes there will now be a not for profit that not only doesn't pay taxes but will take the commercial property off the tax rolls.
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