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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2014 9:12:15 AM

There is a serious situation in West Africa that has implications for the entire world. Even medical personnel wearing "hazmat" suits are susceptible to EBOLA. Is it time for the government to divert some "proactive" money to find a vaccine and/or cure for this nasty virus?
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 1:25:04 AM

Yesterday at 9:56 am 17sat posted a link on a lack of preparedness that contained this small snippet among a long and very complete assessment:

"Shortages abound, beginning with the fact there are only four specialized containment care facilities set up to isolate and treat patients with Ebola and other very dangerous diseases. In any sizable outbreak, those dozen or so beds would fill up very quickly."

Expanding on that:
"There is a reason why Ebola has been classified as a biosafety-level 4 (BSL-4) pathogen. It is an extraordinarily dangerous virus, and there are only a few facilities in the entire country that are set up to safely handle such a disease. The Ebola patient that recently died in Dallas was the first to be cared for in a facility that did not follow biosafety-level 4 protocols. And so it should not be a surprise that this is the facility where transmission happened.

As I discussed yesterday, WND is reporting that there is only one BSL-4 care facility in the entire nation that is available to treat the general public…

Have you wondered why Ebola patients are being sent to Omaha, Nebraska?

It’s because one physician, Dr. Philip Smith, had the foresight to set up the Nebraska Biocontainment Patient Care Unit after the Sept. 11 attacks as a bulwark against bioterrorism. Empty for more than a decade, used only for drills, it was called “Maurer’s Folly,” for Harold Maurer, former chancellor of the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

The unit has a special air handling system to keep germs from escaping from patient rooms, and a steam sterilizer for scrubs and equipment.

It could handle at most 10 patients at a time, but one or two would be more comfortable, owing to the large volume of infectious waste.

It is the largest of only four such units in the U.S., and the only one designated for the general public.
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Most U.S. Hospitals Cannot Safely Handle Ebola Patients
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Here's a very brief summary of the other 3 facilities (see the link that follows to get a lot more info on each of the four BSL-4 facilities):

National Institutes of Health (NIH)
Embedded in the sprawling campus of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Bethesda, Md., is a small but mighty high-level containment facility known as the Special Clinical Studies Unit.
....The unit has just four rooms and seven beds; three of the rooms are built for two patients and one is single-occupancy.

Emory University Hospital
Located outside of Atlanta and near the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Emory University Hospital's Isolation Unit was built in cooperation with that agency.
....It houses just two patient rooms—designed to be identical to intensive care unit (ICU) rooms, and each with contained bathrooms with toilets and showers.

Saint Patrick Hospital
The containment facility farthest west is in Missoula, Mont. The Care and Isolation Unit at St. Patrick Hospital was born from a 2005 NIH request for a local patient isolation facility—specifically to serve staff and visitors who might accidentally become infected at the nearby Rocky Mountain Laboratories, an NIH research facility that works with dangerous pathogens in biosafety level 2, 3 and 4 labs.
....The unit has three rooms designed to hold a single patient but they can each serve two patients if necessary.
Inside the 4 U.S. Biocontainment Hospitals That Are Stopping Ebola
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That's it, that's all the capacity in the USSA for safely treating Ebola patients. Now, how many non-USSA infected people is O'Bumbler planning to bring to the USSA?
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urban_dweller
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 12:32:04 AM

A month ago, I posted about the 160,000 hazmat suits ordered by the USSA State Department. The orders have (ahem) grown just a tad: Is It About To Get Worse? Lakeland Hazmat Suit Orders Go Exponential, Surpass 1 Million
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"Orders have been received from government agencies around the world as well as other public and private sector customers. .... The aggregate of orders won by Lakeland that are believed to have resulted from the Ebola crisis amount to approximately 1 million suits with additional orders for other products, such as hoods, foot coverings and gloves. Lakeland started shipping such orders only in October,
.... Some additional context: earlier today the World Health Organization said that 4,910 people had died of Ebola and a new record, or 13,676 confirmed, probable or suspected cases, had been reported in the three hardest-hit countries of Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone."
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 8:16:12 PM

"My nurse SIL said as much when I asked her, what she would do. No way in hell, would she put my brother or others in jeopardy, no matter how low the risk, were she to treat an Ebola patient."


Amen! And that's how it should be!!!
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 7:36:59 PM

>> "Apparently SOME health care workers believe the nobleness of their efforts overseas gives them carte blanche to do as they please when they return home."Norm; You mean like the Doctor in New York who said he wasn't sick and rode around on the subways and such and turned out to have Ebola???<<

This is a prime example of how the protocols are totally inadequate. Luckily this was a person who had just enough knowledge to seek help when he stated to get sick. But the fact remains he was let into the country without being identified as a carrier of Ebola. Then he went out in crowded public venues while the disease was growing in his system. All it will take is one person who doesn't think they are at risk for Ebola to be infected and then think he/she has the flu to start an epidemic.

I have had employees come to work so sick I had to send them home. They have had fevers, headaches, and even one who had a trash can next to him so he could throw up in it. I sent him home when I found out. He filed a grievance against me. I won that one.

Obama is right we can't hermitically seal the county, but we can take reasonable precautions to safeguard the American population. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 3:58:24 PM

"Apparently SOME health care workers believe the nobleness of their efforts overseas gives them carte blanche to do as they please when they return home."

I wonder how much of that is denial, as in the case with the Dallas nurse. Or thinking the protection they were using was adequate to prevent catching Ebola.

It would seem the nobility could extend another 3 weeks to be sure to contain any further spread of the disease, especially to their own loved ones.

My nurse SIL said as much when I asked her, what she would do. No way in hell, would she put my brother or others in jeopardy, no matter how low the risk, were she to treat an Ebola patient.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 12:35:10 PM

According to obama we cant do this - except for animals......
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>>>Writing for the Wilson County News, veterinarian David A. Rustebakke says that the same American government currently refusing to quarantine travelers from Ebola-ravaged West Africa is the same government that uses strict quarantines to protect American livestock from disease using quarantines:

If I wish to import a horse into the United States from Liberia or any African country other than Morocco, the horse needs to undergo a 60-day quarantine period at a USDA-approved quarantine facility prior to mingling with the general population of horses in this country. …

If I were a resident of Liberia incubating Ebola, however, in order to enter the United States all I need to do is present a valid visa. I could lie when asked if I’d have been exposed to Ebola or, if showing symptoms, take Tylenol before going to the airport. Within hours (no quarantine required) I can be walking the streets of any city in the United States.

Rustebakke points out that the animal quarantine is there to protect American livestock, not American citizens. The diseases in question cannot be transferred to humans from animals.

The doctor also says that he can't even ride his horse into a neighboring state "without a health certificate and a negative blood test for Equine Infectious Anemia."<<<

Yes it is ow proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that obama will be in the books as less effective and less qualified than the peanut farmer.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 12:33:47 PM

"Apparently SOME health care workers believe the nobleness of their efforts overseas gives them carte blanche to do as they please when they return home."


You mean like the Doctor in New York who said he wasn't sick and rode around on the subways and such and turned out to have ebola???

For that reason alone, Ms. Hickox needs to stay home and put the common good above her own stubborn insistence that she's perfectly healthy, because the Doctor was too...
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 12:28:17 PM

Apparently SOME health care workers believe the nobleness of their efforts overseas gives them carte blanche to do as they please when they return home.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 12:12:38 PM



I hope that they arrest her!

She is one sick self-absorbed woman.

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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 11:10:05 AM

"Kaci Hickox and her boyfriend rode their bicycles away from their house in the northeastern state of Maine as a gaggle of media looked on and cameras rolled."

--CNN news
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 9:56:34 AM

0bama says: 0bama on Ebola fight: US can't seal itself off
"President Barack 0bama said Wednesday the United States was not immune to the disease but cautioned against discouraging American health care workers with restrictive measures that confine them upon their return from the afflicted region. "We can't hermetically seal ourselves off," he declared."

"His remarks came amid debate between the federal government and several states over how returning health care workers should be monitored. The White House has pushed back against overly restrictive measures, including proposals for travel bans or isolation measures adopted by some states."

Meanwhile, investigative reporters report: If Ebola batters US, we are not ready
"The U.S. health care apparatus is so unprepared and short on resources to deal with the deadly Ebola virus that even small clusters of cases could overwhelm parts of the system, according to an Associated Press review of readiness at hospitals and other components of the emergency medical network."

But Lord 0bama says "Bring 'em here" and doesn't care that we're not ready, much less who will pay for all the expensive measures needed to run such a relief effort.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 8:46:05 AM

CDC admits droplets from a sneeze could spread Ebola




"Ebola is a lot easier to catch than health officials have admitted — and can be contracted by contact with a doorknob contaminated by a sneeze from an infected person an hour or more before, experts told The Post Tuesday.
“If you are sniffling and sneezing, you produce microorganisms that can get on stuff in a room. If people touch them, they could be” infected, said Dr. Meryl Nass, of the Institute for Public Accuracy in Washington, DC.
Nass pointed to a poster the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly released on its Web site saying the deadly virus can be spread through “droplets.”
“Droplet spread happens when germs traveling inside droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person enter the eyes, nose or mouth of another person,” the poster states.
Nass slammed the contradiction.
“The CDC said it doesn’t spread at all by air, then Friday they came out with this poster,” she said. “They admit that these particles or droplets may land on objects such as doorknobs and that Ebola can be transmitted that way.”
Dr. Rossi Hassad, a professor of epidemiology at Mercy College, said droplets could remain active for up to a day."
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 11:14:55 PM



Once again the totally clueless Obama is stubbornly and arrogantly hanging on to his insane edict that no one will ever be stopped from coming into this country of from being quarantined.

So everyone is simply going around the fool, including his own military generals!

SMH

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 7:24:56 PM

Has anyone else noticed that most zombie movies start with a man in a suit standing behind a podium telling us we know what we are doing, don't worry, everything is OK.

By the way this link is from before the Texas cases and not one word is mentioned about protecting America.

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 10/29/2014 7:25:21 PM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 7:20:14 PM

"Everyone should do what is right in their own eyes."


Um, we know from the Book of Judges that that ALWAYS has disastrous results...

LOL, SMH
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 7:19:50 PM

"she seems stubborn and rebellious."

I am probably being judgmental here, but she seems like the kind of person of who objects to children receiving mandatory vaccinations before attending school.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 7:12:32 PM

Everyone returning from West Africa should be under a 21 day quarantine.

No one returning from West Africa should be under a 21 day quarantine, unless they are sick.

Everyone should do what is right in their own eyes.

OK?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 7:06:38 PM

"She doesn't like Maine's rules either. Seems like she thinks she knows best."


I was with her getting out of New Jersey but she lost me when she got to Maine...she seems stubborn and rebellious.

She should realize that there are more things at stake than her personal inconveniences...
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 6:54:41 PM

"I think the Nurse's description of her draconian isolation"

She doesn't like Maine's rules either. Seems like she thinks she knows best.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 5:25:14 PM

"My question is, "will the White House pressure California like it did New Jersey"?"


I think the Nurse's description of her draconian isolation in her OP-ED, coupled with a negative test for having the virus actually put the pressure on New Jersey...
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 5:12:55 PM

"Anyone arriving in California from an Ebola-affected area and who has had contact with a person infected with the deadly virus will be quarantined for 21 days, according to a new order issued today by the state's public health director."

Good for California--looking out for the public welfare.

My question is, "will the White House pressure California like it did New Jersey"?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 4:36:36 PM

And California throws its hand into the fray:

"Anyone arriving in California from an Ebola-affected area and who has had contact with a person infected with the deadly virus will be quarantined for 21 days, according to a new order issued today by the state's public health director.

The mandate gives county health officials the ability to screen passengers arriving from Ebola-stricken regions in West Africa, or who have worked with infected patients, to determine if they’re at risk for the disease and should be quarantined for the virus’ three-week incubation period.

Failure to comply with a quarantine order could result in misdemeanor criminal charges, according to the order."




California imposes quarantine policy for Ebola exposure
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 3:36:06 PM

One more instance of a loony lib dogooder refusing to do what she is told to do.
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>>>“I don’t plan on sticking to the guidelines. I remain appalled by these home quarantine policies that have been forced upon me, even though I am in perfectly good health and feeling strong and have been this entire time completely symptom free,” said Hickox, who wouldn’t emerge from Maine’s 21-day voluntary quarantine until Nov. 10.<<<

Another supposedly knowledgeable liberal who doesnt seem to understand what the word quarantine means. It is beginning to look like these people need to be locked up behind bars to get the message across.

They say they will abide by their word to 'self quarantine'. Their word is only as good as till they feel the need to go do whatever they want. I do believe the word dishonest and untruthful oath breaker comes to mind to describe someone like that.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 3:29:32 PM

Absolutely classic case of why we need ACTUAL ENFORCED MANDAROTY quarantine for these people.
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>>>The city’s first Ebola patient initially lied to authorities about his travels around the city following his return from treating disease victims in Africa, law-enforcement sources said.

Dr. Craig Spencer at first told officials that he isolated himself in his Harlem apartment — and didn’t admit he rode the subways, dined out and went bowling until cops looked at his MetroCard the sources said.

“He told the authorities that he self-quarantined. Detectives then reviewed his credit-card statement and MetroCard and found that he went over here, over there, up and down and all around,” a source said.

Spencer finally ’fessed up when a cop “got on the phone and had to relay questions to him through the Health Department,” a source said.

Officials then retraced Spencer’s steps, which included dining at The Meatball Shop in Greenwich Village and bowling at The Gutter in Brooklyn.<<<

They seem to care more about their having a good time than the health and welfare of the rest of the citizens of the US.

What about that Oath they took to call themselves doctors. I guess that doesnt mean what it really says if your a liberal. Seems liberals have a difficult time keeping any oath they may make.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 2:08:27 PM

Hagel orders 21 day quarantine for all military returning from West Africa. (source)

Military gets mandatory quarantine, but "noble" civilians get self monitoring, which they ignobly ignore.
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SE, "CDC once again tweaks the guidelines. Is this the final word, or will there be more changes tomorrow?"

There will be MORE.

As soon as it is apparent to everyone that once again they do not have a clue of what they are doing.

Incompetence at the highest levels - all for political purposes.

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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 7:19:36 PM

CDC once again tweaks the guidelines. Is this the final word, or will there be more changes tomorrow?
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 1:56:33 PM

Army troops isolated after Africa duty tour

"The Associated Press
WASHINGTON —
The Pentagon says dozens of Army soldiers and their two-star general are being isolated at their base in Vicenza, Italy, as they return after serving in West Africa to help with the Ebola fight.

Maj. Gen. Darryl A. Williams, the commander who led the U.S. response in Liberia, returned to Italy with 11 staff. They will be restricted in an isolated location and will not be allowed to go to their homes for 21 days. Several dozen more are returning in the coming days and will also be isolated."

So, despite what the 0bama Administration says is official US Government policy, and that mandatory quarantines of people travelling back from those West African countries are not needed, the US Army (part of the US Government) will indeed require a 21 day quarantine for returning US troops.
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 12:20:32 PM

How the Ebola outbreak is exploited for commercial gain...
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 9:09:23 AM

A 5-year-old boy from Guinea is being observed at Bellevue Hospital in New York City for possible Ebola symptoms.
He arrived in the United States on Saturday, he was vomiting and had a 103 degree Fahrenheit fever. He has not been tested for the virus and is not under quarantine. (source)
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 3:10:27 PM

Current count is 10,000 Ebola cases--5,000 dead.

--ABC radio news (3:00 pm)
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 11:29:58 AM

No Ebola in Indy yet, but we have this deadly virus.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 3:34:49 PM

Dr. Spencer was given the "ebola"test" before he got on the plane in Africa. He was given the "ebola test" when he got off the plane in the USA. A couple of days later, after NOT self quarantining, he got ebola.

Will the CDC be revising its guidelines again?
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 1:51:50 PM

I wonder what they'd be saying if the good Dr. had been hanging around City Hall for the last few days?
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 9:04:38 AM



ZimCity, "Good thing Ebola is hard to catch, but still...if you've just returned from Guinea treating Ebola patients, maybe chill out at home for 3 weeks."

BINGO!

But Communist Mayor 'Big Bird' di Blasio and Democrat Governor Cuomo once again claimed that there is no danger because ebola is HARD to catch.

There sure seem to be a lot of people catching the HARD to catch disease while the liberal know it all politicians loudly beat their chests of how smart they are.

SMH


[Edited by: AnotherOne at 10/24/2014 9:05:58 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 8:39:59 AM

[L=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/text deleted Ebola patient's contacts[/L]

"Dr. Spencer complicated the tracing process when he told health officials that just the night before, he had gone bowling in Brooklyn, making the long trip there from his home in Upper Manhattan by subway and then returning in a car hired via the taxi service Uber."

Good thing Ebola is hard to catch, but still...if you've just returned from Guinea treating Ebola patients, maybe chill out at home for 3 weeks.

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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 8:35:58 AM

maybe they can start reading temperatures at the entrances of buildings, much like they do for security...Or maybe they can put the ebola sign in the doors with a line through it .... that is efficient means in Chicago to warn people not to carry their guns into buildings where they are not allowed..
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 8:27:27 AM

"NEW YORK/CHICAGO (Reuters) - As a New York City doctor tests positive for Ebola after volunteering in West Africa, health officials face the challenge of deciding how wide a net to cast for his possible contacts in the largest, most crowded city in the United States."
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 6:51:01 PM

Doctor with Ebola type symptoms admitted to Bellevue Hospital.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 9:21:23 AM

>>Still would like to know how come Perry isn't shutting down Texas, or at least the dallas area (since he wants travel restrictions)???<<

Simple, Norm. It's because both he and Cruz are hypocrites. They don't want the same or similar restrictions put on them that they want for others.

 
>>Did I stutter?<<

Thanks for The Breakfast Club reference, Marty.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 9:12:58 AM

WELL, well, well. Certain acronym government agencies have issue amended garment protocols for health care workers and increased travel restrictions for travelers from West Africa--THIS WEEK.

Horses are out! Should we fix the barn door? OK. We hope.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 6:28:16 PM



johnnyg, " it seems that the CDC and government is more interested in down playing the threat to avoid panic. At least thats what I hope it is because the other answer is incompetence."

Unfortunately, with every day that passes, it seems more likely that the only plausible explanation is that THIS bunch is just plain incompetent.

Because if they are not just incompetent and are doing this stuff purposely, that makes them EVIL.

I would rather believe they are incompetent rather than EVIL.

But I certainly can't rule that out either.

SMH

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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 6:16:58 PM

>>"Are you forgetting the part where she called the CDC and asked if it was OK?"

No. I'm wondering why she felt she had to call them at all.<<<

From what I have read she called the CDC because she was running a low grade fever. It did not meat the level they become concerned about. Also if I remember right she was also experiencing other very early symptoms of Ebola. Remember early symptoms can mimic just about any other disease. The problem I have is the CDC let her on a plane after she called in a discussed it with them. Now I have to wonder just how good the screenings are at the airports. Where most of us want the government to error on the side of caution with this it seems that the CDC and government is more interested in down playing the threat to avoid panic. At least thats what I hope it is because the other answer is incompetence.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 5:02:13 PM



ROTFL

He makes a false claim.

And then when it is pointed out that she DID call the CDC and was given the wrong information, he doubles down and asks "I'm wondering why she felt she had to call them at all."

ROTFL

He can't admit that Obama has been a buffoon in this whole thing claiming 'it can't come here' and even if it does come here 'we know how to stop it'.

He can't admit that Obama's vaunted CDC has been a bunch of buffoons in everything that they have done with this. 'We know how ebola is spread.' 'We know how to stop it.'

When they apparently don't know anything they are doing.

And they refuse to stop it at its source by preventing people from there coming to the United States.

And they make excuses that make absolutely NO sense for their refusal to do the common sense thing.

SMH

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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:37:17 PM

"Are you forgetting the part where she called the CDC and asked if it was OK?"

No. I'm wondering why she felt she had to call them at all.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:35:45 PM

She actually called two different times to ask.....I guess she couldn't believe they told her "yes" the first time.......

Yes, big government looks bad, and we are right to point it out.
Everything the CDC said was wrong. Everything. They had to walk back every point they tried to make about ebola in this country, that it wouldn't come here, that it was hard to catch, that they had protocols in place, that hospitals everywhere knew what to do.
The CDC looks like a ship of fools and we aren't sailing away with them.
You're welcome to man the anchor chains if you like, however.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 3:52:10 PM

"There's something amiss with a nurse treating an Ebola patient, developing a fever, and then going off for a ride in an airplane. The problem is that common sense may not be as common as we think."

Are you forgetting the part where she called the CDC and asked if it was OK?
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 3:51:22 PM

Still would like to know how come Perry isn't shutting down Texas, or at least the dallas area (since he wants travel restrictions)???
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 3:49:58 PM

"Really Marty?"

Did I stutter? Yes, really.

There's something amiss with a nurse treating an Ebola patient, developing a fever, and then going off for a ride in an airplane. The problem is that common sense may not be as common as we think.

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 3:44:51 PM

"Because the right sees it as an opportunity to blame BIG government and further point fingers at the Obama administration. They do fear mongering so well."


Brother, I think you hit the nail on the head.
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