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AnotherOne

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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 8:38:22 PM



OK, now that I have your attention, islam is almost secondarily a "religion".

And it is important that we make that distinction.

Because to a Western mindset, "religion" conjures up immages of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, etc, all of which for the most part are peaceful and really ARE religions.

And so we tend to automatically think of islam in those terms.

Nothing could be further from the truth!

islam is primarily a military/legal/economic/social/POLITICAL structure that almost coincidentally has a "religious" component.

Yes, political.

Those of us who have studied and know islam, have been attacked and ridiculed by mainly liberals and other muslims. We have been called "haters". We have been called "islamophobes". We have been called "bigoted". We have been called "ignorant". And just about every other name in the books.

When in fact it is those who are apologists for islam (NOT a religion) who are the true ignorant ones and 'haters'.

We have been attacked for talking about sharia.

We have been attacked for talking about the caliphate.

But now ISIS is fully displaying what islam is about (as the Taliban and al Qaeda have before).

ISIS is imposing sharia law.

ISIS is openly proclaiming that its ultimate goal is to re-establish an islamic caliphate and to destroy Israel, the United States and the entire West and to subjugate the entire world to islam.

So what liberals for years have attacked and ridiculed us for saying, is coming true before our very eyes.

Will we learn what islam truly is before it is too late?

There are a few around here (like xrdc - I should not even start naming people because there are others of you who DO understand islam and I apologize for not naming you as well) who DO understand islam and have shown their understanding and wisdom on these forums.

Or will the West fall because of ignorance and misplaced "hope"? Like all of Europe almost fell in the middle of the last millennium. And the United States was well on its way to defeat until Thomas Jefferson stepped in after he learned what islam really was!

Are all muslims violent or terrorists?

Absolutely not.

But if only 10% of them are extremists, that is 160 MILLION violent muslims in the world. And the closer they follow muhammed or the quran, the more violent they WILL become. We need to learn.

We certainly will NOT learn under this president.

OK, libs, let the predictable attacks begin.

SMH

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 5:23:01 PM



SE3.5, "They are NOT lone wolves."

BINGO!

I am already sick and tired of the new excuse of these are just 'lone wolves'.

You are absolutely right, SE.

They are NOT lone wolves.

Will we wake up in time?

Will we call the politically correct crowd on this nonsense every time it comes out of their mouths?

Or will we wait until it is too late for this country?

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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 5:13:36 PM

When is a "lone wolf" not a "lone wolf"?

When he is in communication with his pack. Most of the so called "lone wolves" have been in regular communication with terrorist groups. They are NOT lone wolves.
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Surprisingly the New York Police Department is showing some actual clarity of thought!

They are calling the hatchet attack against 4 of their police officers an act of TERRORISM!

Good for them.

Obama will probably still call it workplace violence.

NYPD Commissioner: Queens Hatchet Attack Suspect Acted Alone

"Investigators were working Friday to determine why a man attacked a group of NYPD officers with a hatchet before they shot him dead, but the city's top cop said he was certain of one thing -- "this was a terror attack."

"We at this time believe that he acted alone," Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said Friday. "We would describe him as self-radicalized. We would describe him as self-directed in his activities.""

But then they slip into their politically correct talk and do not identify the source of the terror and minimize it by saying he 'acted alone'.

Tell that to the young police officer with a skull split wide open.

Don't worry about your head and your brain and your pain.

Your attacker 'acted alone'! And we won't tell you why he attacked you.

SMH

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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 10:20:24 AM



The United States issues a press release calling a terrorist attack in Jerusalem "a traffic incident"!

It is becoming harder and harder to explain away Obama's actions.

He cannot be that ignorant.

It is harder and harder to not believe he is evil.

Memo from US Consulate refers to Jerusalem terror attack as 'traffic incident'

"Hours after a Palestinian terrorist drove his car into a crowd waiting at a light rail station in Jerusalem, the US consulate in the city issued a memo referring to the attack as a "traffic incident"."

This is "Obama workplace violence" on steroids!

SMH

God Help Us!

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 11:03:48 PM



flyboy, "Hey A1 - will all the liberal politicians call this latest hatchet job "workplace violence" too? After all the cops were working right?"

In Obama's drug addled brain, it probably will be call workplace violence.

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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:55:54 PM

Hey A1 - will all the liberal politicians call this latest hatchet job "workplace violence" too? After all the cops were working right?

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:34:20 PM



ISIS has called for 'lone wolf' muslim terrorists to attack the United States and any ally in any way they can.

Canada has suffered TWO terrorist attacks in 3 days with the DEATH of 2 military members and others injured.

Now there is a 'hatchet wielding' madman who attacks police on the streets of New York before being killed.

Right away the usual apologists like the police chief and the media claim that there is absolutely no connection to terrorism.

Yeah right. Politically correct at ever turn.

Man attacks New York police officers with a hatchet

Small problem, the man's facebook page is rife with jihadist verses from the quran and other radical muslim rantings.

Polticially Correct Cannot Figure Out What Motivates Another muslimTerrorist



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 10/23/2014 10:35:58 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 8:03:01 PM

AFSNCO said: "I have to ask. Why does that one poor guy have pink boots while everyone else has the typical tan combat boots?"

He WANTED to wear the pink boots.

He also wanted to wear his tutu, but the commander wouldn't allow it during the photo op.

Did you ever see this video?
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AnotherOne
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Barack Obama proudly threw his shoulder out of joint patting himself on the back for saving the Yazidis on Mount Sinjar in Iraq and saying "What a good boy am I!"

Then he proudly proclaimed that he was going to 'degrade ISIS'.

Trouble is, its not true.

ISIS has been getting stronger and stronger.

And now comes word that they have taken TWO MORE towns on Mount Sinjar as the Yazidis cry for the world to save them from being butchered by ISIS.

Maybe Obama doesn't even know about this since there is bad cell phone service out on the golf course. Or he can't talk because he has his mouth full of pate de foi gras at a $32000 a plate fundraiser at a Hollywood mansion.

ISIS Takes Over Two Towns On Mount Sinjar, Yazidis Plead For US Coalition To Save Them

"The Islamic State group has taken over two towns on Sinjar Mountain Monday, indicating that the Sunni militant group is advancing on territory that the U.S. had said that it had secured during its airstrikes on the region back in August. U.S. officials warned months ago that if ISIS militants succeed in advancing this far, the Yazidi population could be at risk of "a potential genocide.""

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 1:50:51 PM



Islamic State captive Peter Kassig told parents his 'time was running out'

"Parents of US aid worker threatened with beheading in Syria, released more details from son’s letter written in captivity

His family had asked for a media blackout after his disappearance, at the orders of Kassig’s captors.

“We couldn’t answer honestly when people would ask us. So we had to lie to our friends again and again and again,” Abdul-Rahman’s mother Paula told CBS News in the Kassigs’ first television interview.

He said the captors told hostages that their families no longer cared about them."

I cannot imagine the torment that his parents are going through.

We need to pray for them in these hours ahead.

But we can NEVER permit these muslim ANIMALS to get by with what they are doing without loudly condemning them!

Liberals and the president will never condemn them.

So that makes it even more important for conservatives to speak out against this barbarity and inhumanity of radical muslims.

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Peter Kassig, aka Abdul Rahman Kassig, will be beheaded on Wednesday according to new threats from ISIS.

Peter Kassig converted to islam while being held by ISIS. Didn't help him much, did it?

His parents have been kowtowing and bowing and genuflecting to ISIS [understandably so]. Didn't help much did it?

Obama continues to blather and dither. He doesn't help much does he?

Breaking: ISIS Says WEDNESDAY Is Deadline for American Hostage Peter Kassig

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Quebec attack on Canadian soldiers linked to ‘terrorist ideology’

"Martin Rouleau, the suspected homegrown terrorist behind an attack on two Canadian soldiers, may have been lying in wait for more than two hours before running his victims down with his car.

Quebec provincial police told reporters Tuesday that the investigation into the hit-and-run that killed one and injured another has so far uncovered evidence that Rouleau had been sitting in the parking lot outside of a federal building that offers support to Canadian military veterans and other personnel as early as 9:15 a.m. on Monday. The attack in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, south of Montreal, occurred around 11:30 a.m."

Will we wake up?

It is questionable.

Even here at GasBuddy, we have the progressive liberal crowd who defend radical muslims over and over and over.

And we have a man in the White House who defends radical muslims!

And even gives them aid and comfort.

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Even though the media in Canada (and here in the United States) are loathe to tell the truth that this is part and parcel of islam, even they are forced to give hints of the truth!

“It was a terrorist attack and Martin died like he wanted to. That’s what happened,” one close friend, who asked not to be named, told the Star.

"“He thought it was true. He believed it all,” Prince said. “He thought that of all the religions it was Islam that was the truest.”

His Facebook posts stretching back to May 2013 touch on the cause of Palestinians, the righteousness of Islam over Christianity and post several photos of Prime Minister Stephen Harper and other world leaders with orthodox Jews. His Twitter account, in which he takes the AlCanadi moniker commonly used by foreigners that have gone to fight with Islamic terror groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, has no posts but follows a number of ISIS-related users whose focus is the attempt to establish an Islamic caliphate in Syria and Iraq.

Earlier this summer, the two friends said, Rouleau was stopped by authorities while trying to leave the country.

“He did this because he wanted to reach paradise and assure paradise for his family. He wanted to be a martyr,” said the friend who asked not to be named.
But he also defended some of the most despicable acts for which ISIS has been roundly condemned. When ISIS started decapitating hostages, he defended his faith.

“He became an extremist. He wanted to go fight jihad but they wouldn’t let him do it. The caliphate called all the Muslims on earth to fight. He listened to what they had to say and he did his part here.”"

It is coming here.

No. I will correct that.

It is ALREADY here!

People just refuse to recognize it and admit it.

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:07:55 AM



More of the muslim terrorism just across the border.

'Radicalized' Quebecer shot dead after running down 2 soldiers in suspected terrorist attack

"SAINT-JEAN-SUR-RICHELIEU, Que. – A Quebecer shot dead by police after running down two Canadian soldiers told a 911 operator he was acting in the name of Allah, a police source tells QMI Agency.

The Prime Minister’s Office says the dead suspect, identified as Martin Couture-Rouleau, had become “radicalized.”

Two police sources told QMI Agency that the incident just after 11:30 a.m. was a possible terrorist attack against the unidentified soldiers, one of whom was in critical condition.

He had led police on a chase after mowing down a uniformed and a plainclothes soldier in the parking lot of an auto-insurance outlet.

A source says the suspect called 911 during the chase to say that he carried out his acts in the name of Allah."

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mudtoe, I totally agree.

But that is common sense.

So Obama will NEVER allow it.

SMH

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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 9:36:58 PM

AO: "This has led to inevitable comparisons in Western media between Islamic State's beheadings and those practiced in Saudi Arabia.""


Just another reason to keep expanding fracking as quickly as possible. We already surpassed Saudi Arabia as the #1 oil producer in the world thanks to fracking and in spite of Obama's efforts to destroy our energy independence. Just think of how much more oil we could produce with a President that was working toward that goal rather than doing everything in his power to sabotage it.


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< FlyBoy: "Does anyone know of a bunch of people who are frantically trying to get one of these (atomic) bombs and will think that its 'ordained by god' to use it to bring down the great satan?" >

. Yes, Roman Catholic Christian Hitler and his Hitlerites were desperately trying to do that... but, fortunately, we beat them to it by a few days... that time...
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 4:08:50 PM

Interesting article on and EMP strike.
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Does anyone know of a bunch of people who are frantically trying to get one of these bombs and will think that its 'ordained by god' to use it to bring down the great satan?
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What Does Beck Say Is ‘More Dangerous to the Republic of Texas’ Right Now Than Ebola?

Beck said radical Islamists seemingly receive more protection than any other religious figure.

“God forbid you say, ‘This mosque has radical Islamic imams preaching hatred,’” Beck said. “You have a bag of bricks fall on your head, and they immediately shut down everyone from even saying, ‘Wait a minute — the bombers came from that mosque. What are they being taught inside that mosque?’ God forbid. The president immediately sends a team of delegates to apologize to that mosque, as it happened in Oklahoma.”
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Saudi Arabia steps up beheadings; some see political message

"RIYADH (Reuters) - Immediately after his sword falls, the Saudi Arabian executioner steps backwards to avoid soiling his clothes with the blood of the condemned man, whose headless body can be seen slumping over backwards in the shaky online film.

After perfunctorily checking the white folds of his robe for flecks of red, the executioner wipes his blade with a tissue, which he drops onto the corpse and walks away.

A sudden surge in public executions in Saudi Arabia in the last two months has coincided with a U.S.-led bombing campaign against Islamic State. This has led to inevitable comparisons in Western media between Islamic State's beheadings and those practiced in Saudi Arabia."

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Now it turns out that not only are our inept pinprick military strikes (that are being done ONLY for political cover) ineffective, it turns out that the US is sending HUMANITARIAN aid to ISIS!

Can you say INSANE?!

U.S. Humanitarian Aid Going to ISIS

"Not only are foodstuffs, medical supplies—even clinics—going to ISIS, the distribution networks are paying ISIS ‘taxes’ and putting ISIS people on their payrolls.

GAZIANTEP, Turkey — While U.S. warplanes strike at the militants of the so-called Islamic State in both Syria and Iraq, truckloads of U.S. and Western aid has been flowing into territory controlled by the jihadists, assisting them to build their terror-inspiring “Caliphate.”

The aid—mainly food and medical equipment—is meant for Syrians displaced from their hometowns, and for hungry civilians. It is funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development, European donors, and the United Nations. Whether it continues is now the subject of anguished debate among officials in Washington and European. The fear is that stopping aid would hurt innocent civilians and would be used for propaganda purposes by the militants, who would likely blame the West for added hardship."

Just when you think this administration cannot get any more insane, they do!

SMH

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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 9:12:17 PM

In that article, Kerry said the Himalayan glaciers are melting. He just can't stop lying.
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Whacked out John Kerry makes the most outrageous argument that the rise of ISIS under his watch has nothing to do with islam but is due to Israel and global warming!

ROTFL

You just can't make up the insanity of these Democrats who are in power.

Kerry: Extremism Not Linked to Islam; Factors Include Deprivation, Climate Change

"Secretary of State John Kerry on Thursday night rejected any link between Islam and extremism practiced by the likes of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL/Daesh), pointing instead to factors such as poverty among youthful Mideast populations, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – and climate change.

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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 8:41:56 PM

"we must DO NO LESS when the TERRORISM is done in the name of CHRIST!"

On the rare occasions when that has happened, such as Eric Rudolph the abortion clinic bomber, or the nutjob who killed Melvin Tiller, the later-term abortionist, Christians have forcefully denounced such actions and repudiated them.

The outcry against the handful of lives taken in the name of Christ, has been far greater than any protest from Muslims at the deaths of the 3000 victims of 9/11 -- to say nothing of other jihadist acts of murder and violence in other parts of the world.

GTH
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 3:30:07 PM

OK...so I have to ask. Why does that one poor guy have pink boots while everyone else has the typical tan combat boots?
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"Moderate Moslems, OTOH, tend to be silent. This encourages extremist Moslems to progressively become more extreme."

this VERY SAME phenomenon is happening right HERE in this gas buddy thread
'moderate'' CHRISTIANS afraid that speaking out against TERRORISM isn't 'PC'!!!

shame!

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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 11:16:51 PM

we call on muslims to denounce TERRORISM
we must DO NO LESS when the TERRORISM is done in the name of CHRIST!
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gas_too_high - "The silence of non-jihadist Muslims toward jihadism is the one thing I find most alarming about Islam today."

ldheinz: "I would agree. When extremist Christians kill in the name of Jehovah, moderate Christians tend to speak out against it, as they recognize that such actions reflect negatively against Christianity."

Extremist Christians tend to be an extremely small group. Jihadist Muslims, OTOH, are a larger percentage of Muslims.

Whereas the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, preached peace, the founder of Islam, Mohammed, was a warlord for the last ten years of his life. That is reflected in the later suras of the Qur'an, and in the actions of his immediate successors to conquer the Middle East, Persia and North Africa. Early Christians weren't conquerors -- they were martyrs.

"Moderate Moslems, OTOH, tend to be silent. This encourages extremist Moslems to progressively become more extreme."

Agreed.

GTH



[Edited by: gas_too_high at 10/13/2014 9:27:56 PM EST]
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jeskibuff, "Oh, that's a bunch of hooey!

...or maybe it's not?"

Unfortunately it is not a bunch of hooey.

It is actually the Mayor of London who made the statement that there are already "thousands" of extremist muslims in their midst who are vowing to attack London and Britain.

Will Britain wake up?

Will America wake up?

Will the WORLD wake up?

They slept until it was too late in the 1930s.

And they are asleep again.

And when some of us point out what is going on, the progressive liberals attack us.

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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 8:59:40 PM

AnotherOne said: "They have THOUSANDS of extremist muslims in their midst who are vowing to attack London and Britain."

Oh, that's a bunch of hooey!

...or maybe it's not?
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 6:42:12 PM

i aready swore to mexicanmaria that i am not btc1 n i stand on that oath on my eternal soul

dont let ur anger keep u from doing the right thing

DENOUNCE TERRORISM i plead with you!
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 6:04:28 PM

anot
this is not a laughin matter
serious here

even tho ur walk with the LORD might not take u to my HOUSE of WORSHIP
this is no time to quarrel n no time to make false accusations
the clocks have struck 13 my friend
its time to unite as gas buddies in CHRIST

TERRORISM is not funny
like u i enjoy good laffs on libs n muslims n all
but this aint the time 4 ur 'ROTF'
when TERRORS done in the name of the LORD the world casts its eyes on who???
CHRISTIANS
they want to see if we r true to HIS word
an true to r own!!!!

we call on muslims to denounce TERRORISM
we must DO NO LESS when the TERRORISM is done in the name of CHRIST!

we know u and i
that the TERRORISTS is not CHRISTIANS no way
not even close
they have PERVERTED THE WORD and murdered a woman in mcdonalds
her life was SACRED we must HONOR it as we could HONOR urs or the life of any1 else who would REJECT TERROR!!

i call on you n i also call on good men to denounce TERROR done in the name of JESUS!
DO IT or U SHOW the world that YOU SUPPORT TERROR
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 5:14:11 PM

If the objective of the war against ISIS is to make sure that under no circumstances will Barack Obama ever break his promise to "not get us dragged into another ground war," then congratulations. The man is an absolute rock when it comes to holding a position he thinks is necessary to avoid forfeiting political capital.

Now, if the objective is to defeat ISIS, well . . . that's not going so well.

Baghdad airport in jeopardy; Iraqis plead with Obama to deliver the help he promised.

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rda, "wow
not a single gas buddy CHRISTIAN has DENOUNCED the TERRORISM done in the name of JESUS!!!!"

ROTFL

I 'denounce' you, rda for trying to impersonate someone you are not and trying to pretend you are a "Christian" when we all know that you apparently support the radical anti-Israel islam spouted by your wife's uncle.

You may want to think that you have changed your spots and that we don't recognize you. But your biases shine through brightly.

SMH



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 10/13/2014 4:11:17 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 4:09:09 PM

o i know!
sometimes were afraid
'he's too CONSERVATIVE for me! the HOLY GHOST burns a bit hotter in him than i like!!!"

thats ok
u dont to be a BIBLE thumpin GOD fearing CHRISTIAN BURNING in His WORD like me!
but friends you do have to take a stand the devil is on one side and the LORD is on the other
take my hand and JOIN ME in denouncing TERRORISM that was done in HIS name!

we must do this
just as we call on MUSLIMS to do it
we must do it

even tho u might be afraid! fear not! to those who have ears
HEAR
to those who have wisdom
UNDERSTAND

HIS power is all i am merely a servent
B 1 2
stand tall!!!!!

[Edited by: rdamurphy at 10/13/2014 4:10:29 PM EST]
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BuzzLOL - "< "extremely disrespectful" > to armed rob a bank while wearing a burka??? .... Say what you want about France, but they outlawed these headcoverings... "

Yeah, like it's "respectful" to use a gun to rob a bank while NOT wearing a burka? The guy was wearing a mask in public! My sympathy is with France, not the criminal.
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 3:59:07 PM

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< "extremely disrespectful" > to armed rob a bank while wearing a burka???

. Amazing what upsets some people... not the gun pointed at them... not the willingness to murder to take what doesn't belong... not the robbery... not the gall... not the rudeness... not the disruption of business... but the disrespect of an evil religion...

. Say what you want about France, but they outlawed these headcoverings...

. We all know Jesus gets reborn for the 4th time Nov. 2014 in Maine (he seems to have developed a preference for the USA - much safer place than Middle East):

+ Mom: My Virgin Daughter Pregnant by God with Jesus +
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[Edited by: BuzzLOL at 10/13/2014 4:05:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 3:56:07 PM

wow
not a single gas buddy CHRISTIAN has DENOUNCED the TERRORISM done in the name of JESUS!!!!
excpt ME!!!!
stunning!

r u afraid of violence being done to u and urs? please please remember he is our shepherd and protecter!

dont worry
i denounced the TERRORISM earlier and im counting on the LORD to protect me and mine!!! u can 2!!!! HE will do it!
just be brave!

4 those who think JESUS has returned in the body of a CHINESE WOMAN i say shame on u !!!
stop ur blasphemy! i condemn u and call on HIS name to empower our gas buddy CHRISTIANS to condemn u 2!!!!

thank you amen!
i'm praying 4 u to join me in DENOUNCING TERRORISM!!!!!!!!
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 3:47:14 PM

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< Gas Too High: "Islam is definitely a religion,... But it is also a political ideology." >

. Ditto for Christianity... which is WHY it had to be spelled out in no uncertain terms that the USA is NOT a Christian nation...

. Jim Jones was as psychotically evil Christian as Christians can get... so was Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh, Guy Fawkes, John Brown, and Adolph Hitler, etc... and obviously all their close followers firmly believed they were...
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 3:16:34 PM

You are correct...A1.. I know he was a cult..but, he thought he was a Christian. I should have said, folks who call themselves Christian. Nothing about J. Jones represents Christianity. Thank you for correction.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 3:12:13 PM



mexicomaria, I would disagree with you that Jim Jones was a Christian.

But I agree with everything else you said. [as always! ;-) ]



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 10/13/2014 3:16:18 PM EST]
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 3:10:06 PM

Another thought..........they have a big hate goin' on and this group gives them an "atta boy" place to act out hate, and be considered a hero by some for their acting out hate.
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MM - "The question should be......why do folks join a group of extremists? This case ISIS, in the case of Christianity, Jim Jones. Why do moderates never attract the extremist mind?"

My guess would be that some cannot think for themselves or arrive at the answers they seek and therefore will tend to join those groups which assert control and certainty in what they believe. They will join out of fear rather than find out for themselves, after all, others they see are doing the same thing. Religion makes this easier as it is a mystery to most who have not experienced any of the things that one is supposed to believe have happened or are supposed to happen. If one doesn't know something to be true for himself he is at risk of being manipulated into believing and following like a sheep and often become trapped.
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 1:37:54 PM

wow
i cant believe moderate christians arent denouncing this violence done by extremeists

dont be afraid! YOU CAN DO IT 2! i did it so can you!!!!!

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rdamurphy
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 1:18:48 PM

unlike my fellow christian gas buddies i denounce this violence done in the name of JESUS (woot!)

READ THIS!!!
Called the Church of the Almighty God, it claims to have a million followers, aggressively promotes Doomsday scenarios, wants to destroy the Chinese Communist Party and believes that Jesus Christ has returned — as a Chinese woman.

AND MORE!!!!
According to prosecutors, five members tried to recruit a woman patronizing the McDonald’s in question, asked for her phone number and beat her to death when she refused. Defendant Zhang Lidong, who arrived that night in luxury Porsche Cayenne car, never offered much explanation.

“You could just tell she was not a good person,” he said in a state television interview, describing the 35-year-old mother. “She was a demon, the evil spirit. We had to beat her to death.”

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wow
christians killing in the name of JESUS??? NO!!!! these people aint REAL christians! a course some LIBS will say those who call on the lord and have asked him to come in2 theyre hearts is christians no matter what they do afterwards! they arent perfect but their saved!

thots?
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 12:08:09 PM

ld...."I would agree. When extremist Christians kill in the name of Jehovah, moderate Christians tend to speak out against it, as they recognize that such actions reflect negatively against Christianity. Moderate Moslems, OTOH, tend to be silent. This encourages extremist Moslems to progressively become more extreme."

This is a very wise statement, ld. Although, I think it may go even further than that.

I consider myself an conservative Christian (for lack of a better word) but never an extremist Christian. Extremist denotes to me, someone that moves according to group rule and love no longer motivates them.

Extremist never attract anyone by love...they attract them by a need in the person to be included do to like needs, maybe fear, maybe hate of those who done them wrong, maybe a need to get even, maybe a need to be king of the hill by controlling people with fear.

The question should be......why do folks join a group of extremists? This case ISIS, in the case of Christianity, Jim Jones. Why do moderates never attract the extremist mind?


[Edited by: mexicomaria at 10/13/2014 12:08:50 PM EST]
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gas_too_high - "Islam is definitely a religion, with doctrinal beliefs about God ("Allah") and His purported revelations to Mohammed. But it is also a political ideology."

Well, Islam is definitely a religion, agreed. And I'm not sure many Christians realize that the word "Allah" is the same word as "Jehovah" and "Yahweh", in Arabic, Latin, and Hebrew, respectively. It's the name of the one god, a belief shared by Jews, Christians, and Moslems.

Now, some Moslems use their religion as a political ideology, just as some Jews and Christians do. And religious extremists tend to do terrible things in the name of their religion, using the religion to mask their evil desires.

gas_too_high - "The silence of non-jihadist Muslims toward jihadism is the one thing I find most alarming about Islam today."

I would agree. When extremist Christians kill in the name of Jehovah, moderate Christians tend to speak out against it, as they recognize that such actions reflect negatively against Christianity. Moderate Moslems, OTOH, tend to be silent. This encourages extremist Moslems to progressively become more extreme.

I believe that one of the causes of the current Moslem extremism is the Wahhabi movement. Ironically, it has been indirectly financed by the United States and European purchasing of Saudi Arabian oil, as the Saudi royal family are Wahhabists and have extensively funded Wahhabi schools throughout the Islamic world.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 3:31:32 PM

Hilarious for sure.....
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 2:16:21 PM



Think about this for a minute.

Imagine if muslim radicals came up with a bomb that one of their people could smuggle into the US totally undetected.

Then imagine if that bomb, once inside the US could easily be duplicated. Countless times.

Then imagine that each of those bombs could also be easily duplicated. Countless times.

Even before the FIRST bomb goes off.

And when the first bomb finally goes off, there are multitudes of other self-replicating bombs already in the United States.

Then what do you do?

Think about it and imagine the consequences.

To those wise enough, let them hear.

And let them understand.

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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 1:53:32 PM

From the lead post: "islam is primarily a military/legal/economic/social/POLITICAL structure that almost coincidentally has a "religious" component."

Islam is definitely a religion, with doctrinal beliefs about God ("Allah") and His purported revelations to Mohammed. But it is also a political ideology.

Both the religion and the ideology are united by the word "Islam" which is Arabic for "submission," that is, to the will of Allah.

This is the way Islam was understood classically, in the first few centuries of its existence, and this is the way jihadist Muslims understand it now.

Even non-jihadist Muslims seem to recognize this enough, not to react in outrage when jihadists kill in the name of Allah. They do not react the same way I might, if some nutjob movement started that advocated killing in the name of Jesus Christ. They reat, rather, with discomfort, with subdued disapproval, when they react at all.

The silence of non-jihadist Muslims toward jihadism is the one thing I find most alarming about Islam today.

GTH
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