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HotRod10

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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 10:36:19 AM

The government schools have gone crazy. If it's not a kid getting strip-searched and "evaluated" for 5 hours for twirling a pencil, it's 2nd grade math problems an engineer can't figure out.

At least once a week, I see something that makes me say "Thank God my kids are homeschooled".

Have you considered homeschooling? If so, why haven't done it?

Won't even consider it? Why not?
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2014 1:15:36 AM

I said "Because even the KKK isn't that obnoxious, only militant homosexuals out to punish anyone who doesn't accept them."

sgm4law responds "Wow."

I don't know what's so shocking, I just made an observation that only homosexuals have gone to point of forcing people to enter into a contract to provide services against their will. No other group has gone to that extreme, nor could they likely get away with it.
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 5:12:45 PM

"even the KKK isn't that obnoxious"

Wow.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 5:06:16 PM

"So besides an extrapolation with zero justification, how about reality? How many more people are killed on private property where guns are not banned?"

It's impossible to make a valid comparison adjusting for the number of people, the time spent in each arena, the percentage of people who are actually armed (in a theater with 100 people, only 1% need to be armed to stop a mass-murder, in an apartment with 2 people the necessary percentage of armed persons jumps to 50%), etc.

If you want to compare the murder rates specifically on private property, good luck with that. Mass murders with guns on private property? Good luck finding any, but have at it.

The closest you'll get is comparing cities with very strict gun control laws to those with few limitations. You'll destroy your argument, but go right ahead.

"how about reality?"

The reality is that, whether at home or in a public place, you are safer when there are law-abiding citizens who are armed, as opposed to only the criminals being armed.


[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/18/2014 5:11:15 PM EST]
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 4:30:58 PM

"The couple was not asking for a 'gay' wedding cake - just a wedding cake..."

Just like they're not KKK robes and hats, just robes and hats for the KKK.

"Hyperbole."

Because even the KKK isn't that obnoxious, only militant homosexuals out to punish anyone who doesn't accept them.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 4:29:00 PM

"Extrapolating from the results of the incidents in public places, far fewer are killed on private property than would be killed if guns were banned there too."

So besides an extrapolation with zero justification, how about reality? How many more people are killed on private property where guns are not banned?
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 4:25:23 PM

"How many people are killed on private property where citizens can carry guns?"

Extrapolating from the results of the incidents in public places, far fewer are killed on private property than would be killed if guns were banned there too.

It's not a valid comparison by any stretch. The success of mass-murderers where law-abiding citizens are not allowed the means to defend themselves and others, compared to their lack of success in murdering those who are allowed to protect themselves in public places, is a valid comparison. Just because you don't like result is no excuse to make an idiotic statement.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 2:40:52 PM

Jeopardy! Kid Contestants Can’t Answer Basic Non-Common Core Math Questions
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 2:40:43 PM

"Would you force a black tailor to accept a job sewing robes and hats for the KKK?"

Hyperbole.

The couple was not asking for a 'gay' wedding cake - just a wedding cake...

SMH
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 2:38:28 PM

"So they don't 'choose' their lifestyle? But people do? Talk about silly."

It's the same for both. Behavior is the individual's response to it's environment.

"Selling a product is not supporting anything that person(s) buying the product believe in. It is simple commerce and in commerce, discrimination is forbidden."

So, if I want to hire a particular contractor to work on my house, the contractor cannot turn down the job? Would you force a black tailor to accept a job sewing robes and hats for the KKK? Discrimination is not forbidden in commerce, except when a homosexual wants to force someone to do business with them.

"But what happens when the glove is on the other hand?" "We at Shoebat.com called some 13 prominent bakers who are either gay or pro-gay and requested that they make a pro-traditional marriage cake with the words “Gay marriage is wrong” placed on the cake.

Each one denied us service, and even used deviant insults and obscenities against us."

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 1:42:16 PM

"School Punishment: Take Away Blind Boy’s Cane"

Taking the cane entirely would seem heavy-handed but I think the noodle is a good idea on the bus in such close quarters since he hasn't learned how not to fidget with it.

Why did the school even have to provide him with a cane in the first place?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 1:37:27 PM

"The farther you go with this, the sillier you look."

Might want to look in the mirror...

"So you're arguing that we should accept your premise on faith? I wouldn't have pegged you as a big "faith" person, Weaslespit."

Look up Occam's razor. Has nothing to do with faith... I also believe that there is life elsewhere in the galaxy (much less the universe), but that is yet unproven as well.

"There aren't. Homosexuals are the ones with special privileges. Only homosexuals can force others to support their lifestyle."

Bzzt. Selling a product is not supporting anything that person(s) buying the product believe in. It is simple commerce and in commerce, discrimination is forbidden. Regarding special privileges enjoyed by us heteros, however, feel free to Google all of the legal battles SS couples must face...

"it's all behavioral characteristics resulting from environmental factors."

So they don't 'choose' their lifestyle? But people do? Talk about silly.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 1:29:59 PM

"A side note on the effectiveness of gun-free zones."

How many people are killed on private property where citizens can carry guns?
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 1:15:10 PM

School Punishment: Take Away Blind Boy’s Cane

"School District Spokeswoman Michelle Cronk tells FOX 4 in Kansas City that Dakota hit somebody with his cane on while riding the bus. She says they took away his cane and gave him a pool noodle because he needed something to hold."

A pool noodle? He'll be able to find his way around with that, won't he? I have to agree with the writer: "...our public institutions are ruled by idiots."
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 12:59:43 PM

A child was suspended from school for possessing a spent shell casing.

"The school has a rule against bringing a gun or ammunition to school. The boy had not violated that rule. As Lenore Skenazy writes at Reason.com, 'a spent shell is not ammo any more than ashes are fireworks.'...pretending that a spent shell casing is dangerous is an anti-education. The Principal taught false information to the student."

Even live ammunition is safe, unless someone purposefully uses a hammer and nail on the primer.

A side note on the effectiveness of gun-free zones: “With just one single exception, the attack on congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011, every public shooting since at least 1950 in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry guns.”
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 12:23:02 PM

"Unexplained is also not the same as proven not to exist."

So you're arguing that we should accept your premise on faith? I wouldn't have pegged you as a big "faith" person, Weaslespit.

"And someday I have little doubt science will be able to show genetically/biologically why homosexuality occurs."

Well, you can believe in that if you want, but I'll wait for the evidence.

"why are there special privileges in law for heterosexuals?"

There aren't. Homosexuals are the ones with special privileges. Only homosexuals can force others to support their lifestyle.

"So you believe animals consciously decided to live a gay lifestyle? Really?"

"Apparently so."

"Or are you just trying to ignore the point? I'll let you marinate on that one a bit longer..."

I've marinated...came to the same conclusion: it's all behavioral characteristics resulting from environmental factors. The article you linked to said as much. Nothing in there about physical or genetic factors. At least the majority of the examples in the article were not even examples of homosexuality, because the relationships were not sexual. Just like people, two or twenty males can hang out together, or even raise children together, without being homosexual. Animals "mount" each other to show dominance, not for sexual gratification. I've seen female dogs "mount" other dogs, does that make them lesbians? The farther you go with this, the sillier you look.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2014 9:46:40 AM

"Unexplained is not the same as not proven to exist."

Unexplained is also not the same as proven not to exist.

"Apparently so."

So you believe animals consciously decided to live a gay lifestyle? Really?

"What was your point?"

Or are you just trying to ignore the point? I'll let you marinate on that one a bit longer...

"Recessive genes are not genetic abnormalities."

They are not normal, thus they are abnormal. Dominant characteristics is what is considered 'normal' - your very posts on the subject of homosexuality bear this out.

"1) Red hair is a physical trait that can be verified both visually and genetically."

And someday I have little doubt science will be able to show genetically/biologically why homosexuality occurs.

"2) There are no special privileges in law for redheads."

Indeed - so why are there special privileges in law for heterosexuals?
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2014 10:16:45 PM

"Just because science has been able to explain some abnormalities doesn't mean that those that are yet unexplained don't exist."

Unexplained is not the same as not proven to exist. Homosexuality and gender confusion are strictly behavioral anomalies. Until there is proof of a more substantive basis, I'm not about to support special privileges for those who choose to engage in unnatural sexual relationships or deny the reality of their gender.

"I suppose animals have the ability to choose their lifestyle?"

Apparently so. What was your point?

"Actually it is very much abnormal - which is the definition of a recessive gene."

Recessive genes are not genetic abnormalities. If you don't understand the difference, perhaps you could borrow a high school biology textbook and read up on the subject.

Even if I accepted the premise that redheads are abnormal, it doesn't help your argument for 2 reasons:

1) Red hair is a physical trait that can be verified both visually and genetically.

2) There are no special privileges in law for redheads.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2014 3:31:09 PM

"Actually red hair is completely normal"

Actually it is very much abnormal - which is the definition of a recessive gene. In fact, they are so abnormal to the point where studies have indicated that red heads might become extinct...

"...and all the things you mentioned are physical traits that are visually identifiable as well as verifiable through genetic testing."

Just because science has been able to explain some abnormalities doesn't mean that those that are yet unexplained don't exist.

"You have yet to provide any support for your assertion that homosexuality or gender confusion have any biological basis."

I suppose animals have the ability to choose their lifestyle?

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 12/17/2014 3:31:39 PM EST]
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2014 2:38:51 PM

"Red hair is not normal, but it happens. Birth defects are not normal, but it happens. Being albino is not normal, but it happens."

Actually red hair is completely normal, and all the things you mentioned are physical traits that are visually identifiable as well as verifiable through genetic testing. Homosexuality and gender confusion are not physical traits, nor can they be objectively determined. Both are behaviors, and as such should not be used as a criteria for special treatment or special privileges.

"...discriminate against one biological iteration of abnormal..."

You have yet to provide any support for your assertion that homosexuality or gender confusion have any biological basis.

[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/17/2014 2:42:01 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2014 10:04:04 AM

"Again, my opinions are not based on ignorance. I know what homosexuality is and I called it what it is, sexual deviancy."

Proving my point yet again.

"I don't consider people who are sexually attracted to persons of the same sex to be normal."

Red hair is not normal, but it happens. Birth defects are not normal, but it happens. Being albino is not normal, but it happens.

Strange (and sad) how some would discriminate against one biological iteration of abnormal amongst the sea of abnormalities.

"I'm still entitled to my opinion"

Yes you are - this is still a free country.

"and I will not be ashamed of it."

Hopefully one day you will be...
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2014 9:42:41 AM

Kids should be an unbiased education and not a brainwashing.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 5:45:43 PM

"Ignorance in this day in age is no excuse for outdated homophobic opinions."

Again, my opinions are not based on ignorance. I know what homosexuality is and I called it what it is, sexual deviancy.

What is SEXUAL DEVIANCY? This describes any sexual behaviour that is seen to be different from the norms we expect.

I don't consider people who are sexually attracted to persons of the same sex to be normal. I also don't consider those who claim to be a gender opposite what they obviously are, to be normal either. Since over 95% of the population is heterosexual and well over 99% are not gender confused, I would say homosexuals and transgenders are not even close to being the social norm. Until it becomes illegal, I'm still entitled to my opinion, whether you like it or not, and I will not be ashamed of it.

[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/12/2014 5:49:39 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 5:03:00 PM

"Yep, just like all the other sexual deviants."

Wow. Again, you just proved my point coming full-circle;

"Ignorance in this day in age is no excuse for outdated homophobic opinions."
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 2:36:54 PM

"So as long as they live in the shadows and let you think they are not around, you are OK with them..."

Yep, just like all the other sexual deviants. They can do what they want in private, but don't expect me to condone, accept or support it.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 2:33:25 PM

"You were the one that made the connection about education and Nazi's - I only showed you the very same acts you have been promoting follow a similar path..."

No, you didn't make a connection; you made a supposition and then tried to stretch it into something it isn't. I advocated for the laws to stay as they have been for many years - that biological males use facilities designated for them and females the same. Have we been an oppressive Nazi regime for the last 2 centuries?
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 2:26:15 PM

"Quietly? Well, not anymore. If they would quietly go about living their lives, no one would notice or care. It's because some feel the need to flaunt their sexuality, force everyone to accept it as morally right, and punish anyone who dares to say it is morally wrong or doesn't want to involve themselves in celebrating it, that the issue has become a public debate."

So as long as they live in the shadows and let you think they are not around, you are OK with them...

SMH
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 2:23:10 PM

"Any 'civilized society' includes within it many homosexual and transgender people who quietly but happily act on their urges rather than trying to repress them."

Quietly? Well, not anymore. If they would quietly go about living their lives, no one would notice or care. It's because some feel the need to flaunt their sexuality, force everyone to accept it as morally right, and punish anyone who dares to say it is morally wrong or doesn't want to involve themselves in celebrating it, that the issue has become a public debate.

Btw, civilized societies of the past did not accept homosexuality or other forms of sexual deviancy. Anti-sodomy laws were even common in this country just a few short decades ago. It's only been recently that the "anything goes" attitude has been forced into acceptance.

[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/12/2014 2:25:14 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 2:15:34 PM

"Teaching the truth about Islam is part of a complete education"

And just what is the 'truth' about Islam? Hhmm?

"Why would I attempt to rebut your inaccurate supposition?"

You were the one that made the connection about education and Nazi's - I only showed you the very same acts you have been promoting follow a similar path...

"I didn't follow every link to another article on an ancillary topic that it contained."

You didn't have to, it was in the body of the original link - but perhaps this is a learning moment for you for the future to dig a little deeper than to just parrot somebody nutcase opinion you find on the internet?
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 2:04:40 PM

Here's a newsflash: Any "civilized society" includes within it many homosexual and transgender people who quietly but happily act on their urges rather than trying to repress them.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 1:51:37 PM

"Waiting for your rebuttal to the 'Nazi activities' you seem to support..."

Why would I attempt to rebut your inaccurate supposition?

Controlling one's own behavior, not acting on whatever one feels like doing, is to be human, instead of an animal. Restricting people from acting on whatever feelings they may have is fundamental to a civilized society.

[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/12/2014 1:58:08 PM EST]
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 1:46:16 PM

"Ah, you mean like eliminating the discussion of Muslims, et al and only showing them in a negative light if and when they are discussed."

No, I mean teaching that Jews are less than human and should be wiped from the face of the Earth. I mean teaching that the state is the ultimate authority. Teaching the truth about Islam is part of a complete education, as opposed to ignoring the truth in favor of indoctrination, which is what the Nazis did and the direction of the "public" education system in the US.

"Is it typical for you to not read your own sources you link to?"

I read the article I linked to. I didn't follow every link to another article on an ancillary topic that it contained. I haven't read the book in question, so I can only go by what the two authors of the articles wrote, but since you insist, I'll give my assessment of what I read.

From the writer opposed to the use of the book "The bluest eyes":

"The book was written from the point of view of a person who rapes, commits incest and commits pedophilia by preying on young girls. The book is very detailed and explicit...The author purposely wrote the book in such a way as to make the reader see themselves as a co-conspirator with the rapist. She also portrayed the actions in such a way as make them justifiable, at least in the eyes of the rapist pedophile. Morrison depicts the rape, incest and pedophilia as being ‘friendly,’ ‘innocent,’ and ‘tender.’"

If that's true, I would tend to agree with the writer of the article, that it is not suitable for children.

From the writer defending the book:

"Saying that students shouldn’t read this book reproduces the very attitudes that the novel explicitly condemns. Just like the townspeople who want Pecola taken out of school so no one can see her, Terhar’s desire to prevent students from reading this book functions to hide problems of rape and incest that need to be brought out into the light so society can address them. As the end of the novel explicitly states, when society blames the victim and looks the other way, children suffer. Ignoring these problems does not make them go away; it just damages those who are already suffering. If Terhar had read this book carefully, she should have understood this point."

If this writer is correct, then there are important things that can be learned from the story. I question whether most high schoolers will understand the meaningful points, if an adult must "read this book carefully" in order to grasp it.

Also from the defense of the book:

"Calling the novel pornographic is factually wrong. The novel does contain a sexually explicit scene of Pecola’s rape, but a graphic depiction of sex is not the same as pornography. Pornography may be sexually explicit, but it is also designed to titillate and excite. Pecola’s rape scene is hardly titillating or designed to evoke sexual feelings in the reader."

I will have to disagree on both counts here. A graphic depiction of sex, regardless of the circumstances, can be considered pornographic. It depends on the reaction of the reader. The writer of the article may not have found it "titillating" or to "evoke sexual feelings", but she's not a teenage boy, and as far as we know, has never been one. She is an adult female, an English prof. with a PhD; of course she can see the deeper meaning and understand the social dynamics that make the story supposedly compelling. High schoolers do not have the maturity nor the patience to reach that understanding.

From defender's description, I also find the storyline to be implausible in it's depiction of the community's reaction, blaming and rejecting a 12 year-old victim of incest. Similar things have actually occurred, and reactions of the community were exactly the opposite.

Illustrating how people should not react to a situation is only helpful if the audience has the maturity to understand it as such. Presenting it to an immature audience carries the risk that it will be taken as a model for behavior.
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 12:41:10 PM

"I'm not ignorant of what it means to be homosexual or transgender, I just don't accept either one as being normal, immutable, or irrepressible. I have sympathy for those with these aberrant urges, but the rest of us are expected to control our urges in order to conform to a civilized society, they can too."

Thanks for proving my point ;)

Waiting for your rebuttal to the 'Nazi activities' you seem to support...
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 12:15:24 PM

"Ignorance in this day in age is no excuse for outdated homophobic opinions."

I'm not ignorant of what it means to be homosexual or transgender, I just don't accept either one as being normal, immutable, or irrepressible. I have sympathy for those with these aberrant urges, but the rest of us are expected to control our urges in order to conform to a civilized society, they can too.
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 9:42:01 AM

"All competing worldviews were expunged from the State educational curriculum"

Ah, you mean like eliminating the discussion of Muslims, et al and only showing them in a negative light if and when they are discussed.

Interesting...

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 12/12/2014 9:42:17 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 9:39:52 AM

"If you had made a reasonable rebuttal, I might be inclined to respond, assuming you can show me where I made "the sensational claim that 'CC promotes rape and pornography'?"

Is it typical for you to not read your own sources you link to?

"Masturbation Okay, Christmas Trees Questionable to Public Schools"

Read it again. All of it, not just the headline.

"...but her complete lack of understanding of the 1st Amendment and hysterical reaction to someone who dares not to share her adoration of Obama, is disturbing."

So is your bigotry towards LGBT individuals...

"I think the writer makes an excellent point. Does genitalia matter or doesn't it? If a person's gender is not defined by their genitalia, then why remove it?"

Of course you do, it fits with your POV. Shocking!

"Ah, you finally get it. However, the proper term is "gender confused"."

So sad when satire reveals the ugly truth. Ignorance in this day in age is no excuse for outdated homophobic opinions.
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 11:54:47 AM

Public School Tells 13-Year-Olds they Can have Sex and Choose their Gender

"...angry parents first learned of the disgusting material being taught when their children came home complaining that they felt like the school was pressuring them to have SEX."

"They (Planned Parenthood) get more grants from the promiscuity of children. The material they have provided was material that mirrored their agenda."

"Planned Parenthood didn’t just talk about sex either, they made sure to include their liberal, politically correct blather on gender as well. Using something they call the “Genderbread Person” they taught the kids to identify themselves as either “agender” or “bigender” among other possible labels. Some of the other material that students got included checklists to help students decide if they were ready for sexual activity. The bulletpoints on the checklist included things like if they have water–based lubricants and condoms and if they could handle a possible infection or pregnancy. Also, in an effort to end sex between partners who may not have consented, Planned Parenthood told the children to make sure they obtain consent by asking questions like “Is it OK if I take my pants off?”
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2014 1:54:17 PM

Tax-Payer Paid Professor Compares Tea Party to Nazis

The article is off-topic, but in his rebuttal, the author makes some interesting comparisons between our educational system and that of Nazi Germany.

"Like Obama and liberals in general, the Nazis did not like educational competition. All the schools in Germany were Nazified. Educational control was taken away from parents and local authorities...All competing worldviews were expunged from the State educational curriculum. A similar approach has been going on the United States for decades. While there’s been some push back with Common Core, liberals will continue to push for a nationalized educational curriculum that they will control."

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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 4:27:16 PM

"Is there a reason why you couldn't respond to the reasonable rebuttal..."

If you had made a reasonable rebuttal, I might be inclined to respond, assuming you can show me where I made "the sensational claim that 'CC promotes rape and pornography'?" and what your rebuttal was.

"Where is the fire?"

You may write off the teacher's response as a "mistake", but her complete lack of understanding of the 1st Amendment and hysterical reaction to someone who dares not to share her adoration of Obama, is disturbing.

"I wouldn't expect somebody who refuses to accept their condition to possibly understand the significance."

I think the writer makes an excellent point. Does genitalia matter or doesn't it? If a person's gender is not defined by their genitalia, then why remove it?

"Yeah, forget all of these people who are either 'delusional' or 'psychologically unstable' staring you in the face..."

Ah, you finally get it. However, the proper term is "gender confused".




[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/5/2014 4:33:57 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 2:23:01 PM

Is there a reason why you couldn't respond to the reasonable rebuttal to the sensational claim that 'CC promotes rape and pornography'?
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 2:21:21 PM

"Teacher tells students they can be arrested for badmouthing Obama"

From the link;

"According to a more recent report from the Salisbury Post, the teacher repsonsible for this inexcusable behavior, Tanya Dixon-Neely, has been suspended."

So a teacher made a mistake and faced the consequences, as is the typical process when any human makes a mistake.

Where is the fire?
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 2:18:32 PM

"the family got in trouble because they used public school. The teachers and administrators saw the boys grades improve and began to get curious. Then they turned the mother into the police for the crime of making a pain-paralyzed young man into a better student."

And if the school didn't turn them in and this was found out, what kind of penalties would the school then be faced with? Don't drag the school down because Minny's statutes required that they report it...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 2:08:23 PM

"Not only can science not prove how a biological male is born psychologically a female..."

Yet. All things in due time.

"...you cannot prove the phenomenon actually exists at all."

Yeah, forget all of these people who are either 'delusional' or 'psychologically unstable' staring you in the face... That wouldn't fit your narrative.

"If gender is independent of biology then why do transgenders try to change the appearance of their anatomy?... its only real significance and result is the mutilation and rejection of one’s own body"

I wouldn't expect somebody who refuses to accept their condition to possibly understand the significance.


[Edited by: Weaslespit at 12/5/2014 2:14:29 PM EST]
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 11:57:02 AM

Mother Facing Prison for Caring for Sick Son

"This mother is facing two years in prison because, following her Minnesota doctor’s recommendations, she took her son to Colorado to try cannabis oil. Immediately he ceased to have the paralyzing painful seizures that had tormented him since a baseball accident."

What does this have to do with schooling, you ask? Well, here you go:

"the family got in trouble because they used public school. The teachers and administrators saw the boys grades improve and began to get curious. Then they turned the mother into the police for the crime of making a pain-paralyzed young man into a better student."

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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 11:21:21 AM

The second largest public school district in the nation just argued in court that a 14-year-old girl is old enough to give consent for a sexual relationship with her math teacher.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 10:58:43 AM

A very good article on why the whole "transgender" concept makes no sense

I particularly like question 3:

"If gender is independent of biology then why do transgenders try to change the appearance of their anatomy?

'Kai adds that it’s too soon to make any decisions about hormones or gender reassignment surgery.' How can anything 'assign' a gender if gender is independent of one’s genitals or other body features? Also, since we know that 'gender reassignment surgery' simply mutilates one’s body and does not actually give anyone body parts belonging to the opposite gender (Again, we see that suddenly biology and gender are connected!), why should anyone want to have the surgery. Since it doesn’t actually make one the 'opposite gender' (again: biology!) its only real significance and result is the mutilation and rejection of one’s own body—of one’s self."
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 10:40:34 AM

Minneapolis imposes unconstitutional racial quotas in school discipline

"The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that 'Minneapolis public school officials are making dramatic changes to their discipline practices by requiring the superintendent’s office to review all suspensions of students of color.' The Minneapolis school system will require prior review before 'every proposed suspension of black, Hispanic or American Indian students' can occur, which means the superintendant may 'take those suspensions back to' those recommending a suspension to 'probe and ask questions.'

Meanwhile, suspensions of white and Asian students will occur without any impediment or scrutiny from the superintendent."
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 10:22:21 AM

This one is from awhile ago, but I think it's new to this thread.

Teacher tells students they can be arrested for badmouthing Obama
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 5:56:09 PM

"A lack of understanding doesn't mean that something doesn't exist."

True. However, a lack of evidence proving that a biological male is anything other than a male, does mean that assertion should be taken with a large dose of skepticism. To accept the assertion by a biological male that he is a female, without evaluation or evidence, is an unfair and dangerous proposition.

Not only can science not prove how a biological male is born psychologically a female, you cannot prove the phenomenon actually exists at all.

[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/4/2014 5:59:32 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 4:52:06 PM

"Abusers come in all kinds of disguises, but if you have your way, those that come as cross-dressers will have the advantage."

They always have the advantage, but it is of the 'surprise' variety. "Disguises" are not necessary.

"I posted it to show how quickly the insanity is spreading"

Boy, you got that right... Fear mongering usually is that way.

"Biology is the fact, your assertion of gender defined by...well, I'm not sure how you propose it to define it...is pure conjecture, not supported by any objective evidence."

Science hasn't yet proven definitively why this happens during human development in the womb, that can't be denied... A lack of understanding doesn't mean that something doesn't exist. If that be the case we should just stop all science in case something new is understood through discovery. Or should science only prove things that are already known?

"should they choose to send them to a government school."

Paranoia is a scary and powerful motivator. Of that there is no doubt.
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 4:15:09 PM

"You do realize that you don't have to be transgendered to be a voyeur or a sexual abuser, right?"

Abusers come in all kinds of disguises, but if you have your way, those that come as cross-dressers will have the advantage.

"Why am I not surprised that you linked to an Op-Ed to 'prove your point'?"

I do not need it to prove my point, that's done already. I posted it to show how quickly the insanity is spreading, so that parents are aware of what they may be subjecting their children to, should they choose to send them to a government school.



[Edited by: HotRod10 at 12/4/2014 4:20:29 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 4:11:22 PM

"The fact that you 'believe' that people simply change their gender "by choice" IS the denial of reality. But I don't expect you to ever accept that fact."

A person's gender is defined by their biology. "Gender identity", or the gender a person identifies themselves as, is a matter of choice. Identifying oneself as a gender other than their biological gender is a denial of the obvious physical reality. Biology is the fact, your assertion of gender defined by...well, I'm not sure how you propose it to define it...is pure conjecture, not supported by any objective evidence.

Accepting the assertion of a biological male that he is indeed an woman, all evidence to the contrary, cannot by any definition be considered a "fact". Actually, accepting someone's word, when all the evidence contradicts it, is most aptly defined as blind faith...or extreme gullibility.
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