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johnsell

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 1:54:14 AM

Follow Glenn and his creation of a new media network via radio, internet, cable, and movies as he seeks to ask the right questions and communicate the truth that is lacking in much of the Main Stream Media.

Glenn Beck.com
The Blaze.com
The Blaze TV

Glenn Beck Opens Up About Future Plans and Explains Why Culture Is the ‘Dog’ and News Is the ‘Tail’

Please support your comments with source links and facts.......
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 6:18:45 PM

"On radio today, Glenn called out America’s “bigotry of low expectations” when it came to the Middle East. Americans are quick to condemn any comment from a celebrity that could be interpreted as homophobic or racist, but when extremists are putting those words into violent action in the Middle East, the left is silent and dismissive. Bill Maher had enough of the hypocrisy, and he called it out on his HBO show. Glenn loved the response, and said Americans have a lot to learn from this."

Bill Maher once again calls out hypocrisy on the left when it comes to Islamic extremism
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 3:11:46 PM

Spit - "Absolutely - he is looking out for nobody other than 'ol number one! He is raking in the profits on the fears of his minions. His show offers little in the way of substance, I consider it just a step above 'The Price Is Right', but below 'Golden Girls' in terms of its entertainment value. Hence the lack of my subscription..."

And you sound envious of success and critical of capitalism......... As you have never subscribed or seen what he has to offer, it obviously doesn't appeal to you, which begs the question as to why you are so attached to a thread for which you have only third party reviews to criticize from.................ahh, but that's how so many react and vote in this day and age.................
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 3:03:25 PM

>>Hmmmm sounds like you must think he's doing what he should.........he is a smart man.<<

I expect nothing less from Beck. he's doing what he's always done . . . . . promoting himself. Nothing more.
Smart , , yes, smart enough to take fools money.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 9:42:57 AM

"Hmmmm sounds like you must think he's doing what he should.........he is a smart man."

Absolutely - he is looking out for nobody other than 'ol number one! He is raking in the profits on the fears of his minions. His show offers little in the way of substance, I consider it just a step above 'The Price Is Right', but below 'Golden Girls' in terms of its entertainment value. Hence the lack of my subscription...
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 12:19:44 AM

F5 - "Beck proves he is willing to capitalize on someone like Mike Rowe for his own ceaseless and shameless self promotion and to feed his already bloated egomania."

Hmmmm sounds like you must think he's doing what he should.........he is a smart man.
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 3:00:21 PM

Beck proves he is willing to capitalize on someone like Mike Rowe for his own ceaseless and shameless self promotion and to feed his already bloated egomania.

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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 1:53:45 PM

I am a big Mike Rowe fan. His foundation, mikeroweWORKS, is fantastic. I have no problem with him being on Beck's program. He is spreading his vision on how to keep the country moving forward. Keep the politics neutral Mike.
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 1:10:02 PM

Mike Rowe Gets Letter Saying It’s a ‘Travesty’ He’s Been a Glenn Beck Guest. Rowe’s Brilliant Response Is Not to Be Missed.

Devil or Angel, Whichever You Are

[In response to a comment by Bob Reidel on Facebook: Mike - Saw you hangin with Bill Maher. I had no idea you were a liberal. Really blew me away. Love everything you do but now that I know who you really are, I won't be tuning in to watch anything your involved with.]

The “Other” Side
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 9:41:18 PM

"I agree, focusing on Glenn, rather than the systemic issue, is more expected behavior from an Obama minion"

LOL! What is the title of this thread you created again, much less the subject?

"I certainly do not think that Glenn is perfect nor agree with everything that he has done.... as he and I have stated many times."

Beck doesn't agree with everything he says? Interesting defense...

You have yet to provide a single instance where you have disagreed with anything Beck has ever said. The 'only' point you have ever been brave enough to address is that you 'might' disagree with the Saudi issue, pending the current litigation.

How truly noble!
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 3:11:26 PM

Spit - "Focusing on one person, rather than the systemic issue, is more expected behavior from a Beck minion - especially trying to project said inequity of criticism onto others.

Why is it that it is automatically assumed by his minions that those who correct his lies are Obama lovers? I certainly do not think that Obama is perfect nor agree with everything that he has done..."

I agree, focusing on Glenn, rather than the systemic issue, is more expected behavior from an Obama minion - especially trying to project said inequity of criticism onto others.

Why is it that it is automatically assumed by Obama minions that those who correct his lies are Glenn lovers? I certainly do not think that Glenn is perfect nor agree with everything that he has done.... as he and I have stated many times.
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 2:53:26 PM

"65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama

Expected behavior from a minion of Obama..."

Focusing on one person, rather than the systemic issue, is more expected behavior from a Beck minion - especially trying to project said inequity of criticism onto others.

Why is it that it is automatically assumed by his minions that those who correct his lies are Obama lovers? I certainly do not think that Obama is perfect nor agree with everything that he has done...
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 2:37:27 PM

Spit - "W owns what he is responsible for, just as Obama does. It only seems skewed to you as you want to try to blame 'everything' on Obama..."

65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama

Expected behavior from a minion of Obama...
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 2:24:13 PM

"The Left just can't stop trying to blame Bush for anything it can"

W owns what he is responsible for, just as Obama does. It only seems skewed to you as you want to try to blame 'everything' on Obama...

Expected behavior from a minion of Beck...
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 11:53:06 AM

Spit - "W sure thought so..."

The Left just can't stop trying to blame Bush for anything it can. Is this your "opinion", as Bush stated at the time that this was the end to 'major' combat operations in Iraq, but then some like to voice their twisted 'opinions' (lies as some would have it) and twist things to fit their own agenda rather than rely on facts. Just doesn't get better.........
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 9:02:16 AM

"Wait a minute, isn't Al Qaeda gone..........?"

W sure thought so...
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2014 9:31:00 PM

Wait a minute, isn't Al Qaeda gone..........?

Glenn Beck on Why the Obama Admin. Is Leaving Out the ‘Al Qaeda’ in Extremist Group’s Name
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"You much rather attack me and now my parents and how I was raised than address that I pointed out that Beck IS the executive producer of "For the Record" and therefore has his hand in the program."

Such a shame, isn't it? That is how you know you are getting close - when the minions resort to such inane comments to deflect...
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2014 4:55:52 AM

>>Only a fool would comment and give his whole cloth 'OPINION' about something he knows nothing about and never seen, especially when it is easily accessed for a $1, but then your lack of research attests for how you were raised and what you pride yourself in.<<

You seem to pride yourself in the personal attack in lieu of a sound argument.

You much rather attack me and now my parents and how I was raised than address that I pointed out that Beck IS the executive producer of "For the Record" and therefore has his hand in the program.

Speaks volumes for the class of people that are Beck fans.

If you want to believe that this program is something other than the usual Beck programing just because you pay for it, suit yourself.

Maybe if you give Glenn another $1, he will tell you the secret information he had on the Saudi Nat'l kid that he threatened the Government with, but never divulged.
I'm betting that Glenn will keep you hanging on that one since he already has you on the hook.

>>You know what I meant, but choose to twist it ..<<

Sorry, didn't twist anything. Next, you'll claim that I took you out of context.
I noticed that you didn't answer my question.

Given Beck's track record on research, i.e., Money man Saudi Nat'l, one would have to wonder about the kind of research one is paying for.

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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2014 1:14:01 AM

rda - "i like glens politics and know he has to make a buck but wish he'd become a christian and maybe cry less"

To me, it matters not what he believes or how he reacts emotionally, what is important is, he seeks the truth the best he knows how and provides a active base from which to promote what he finds and makes people think and do their own research. He may not be the ideal messenger, but he is sincere and stands up for what he believes. He's not perfect and knows it, but he has and is doing a lot of good things to wake people up and provides things they can do to help change things.
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:23:21 PM

i like glens politics and know he has to make a buck but wish he'd become a christian and maybe cry less
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:18:30 PM

F5 - "Only what you want to believe."

You certainly wear that statement well........

"No, just an aversion to giving a known huckster my money.
Wasn't raised to be a fool."

Only a fool would comment and give his whole cloth 'OPINION' about something he knows nothing about and never seen, especially when it is easily accessed for a $1, but then your lack of research attests for how you were raised and what you pride yourself in.

"Did you mean say that paid research news is NOT responsible for what they present and investigate?"

You know what I meant, but choose to twist it as you apparently only believe in news you don't have to pay for.......you should broaden and support your sources if they provide credible research..........
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 5:22:09 PM

>>Face it, neither you or myself have the facts, so anything you say is 'OPINION'.<<

Face it, if you can, Beck never had the facts or else he would have revealed them by now.
You can't seem to face the fact that your Prophet never backed up his threat and is a fraud.

>>I know what I saw and heard which is more than I can say for you and your whole-cloth 'OPINIONS'<<

Only what you want to believe.

>>All I inferred was that you seem to have an aversion to paying for and finding out what Glenn or his "For The Record" research REALLY presents, instead of your whole cloth unsubstantiated 'OPINIONS", especially since right now it would only cost you $1.<<

No, just an aversion to giving a known huckster my money.
Wasn't raised to be a fool.

>>F5 - "Again, it's interesting how you feel paying Beck somehow legitimizes the research; that it must be true, after all, you are paying for it. As if all the other talk Glenn is responsible for saying is just his usual irresponsible tripe.
Didn't try at all. Didn't have to."<<

Misquote me much? Those are from two different posts a day apart.
In the future, try to keep my responses with the quotes I was responding to.

>>Nothing 'clear' in anything you say, as I clearly never said that.<<

No surprise there. You must have forgotten when you said "but probably not since paying for researched news probably is in your universe as they have to be responsible for what they investigate and present".

Did you mean say that paid research news is NOT responsible for what they present and investigate?

Take your time, I know you must be a little confused about that.
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johnsell
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 4:24:43 PM

F5 - "Again, it's interesting how you feel paying Beck somehow legitimizes the research; that it must be true, after all, you are paying for it. As if all the other talk Glenn is responsible for saying is just his usual irresponsible tripe.
Didn't try at all. Didn't have to."

Should have to because where did I say, "Again, it's interesting how you feel paying Beck somehow legitimizes the research; that it must be true, after all, you are paying for it. As if all the other talk Glenn is responsible for saying is just his usual irresponsible tripe."

All I inferred was that you seem to have an aversion to paying for and finding out what Glenn or his "For The Record" research REALLY presents, instead of your whole cloth unsubstantiated 'OPINIONS", especially since right now it would only cost you $1.

"Clearly, you think that paying for researched news legitimizes it."

Nothing 'clear' in anything you say, as I clearly never said that.
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 4:13:10 PM

F5 - "Are you now claiming that Beck threaten the Government with his opinion?
So, for Beck, a promised threat by him now turns into a courtroom battle in order for him to divulge his secret information?"

Face it, neither you or myself have the facts, so anything you say is 'OPINION'.

"Are you trying to claim that Beck has no hand in all that is broadcast on his network?
Sorry, not with his ego. He is listed as the Executive producer you know."

I know what I saw and heard which is more than I can say for you and your whole-cloth 'OPINIONS'.

[Edited by: johnsell at 9/19/2014 4:13:55 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 3:46:09 PM

>>Glenn has speculated with 'HIS OPINION' right or wrong. (Court is still in session)<<

Actually, Beck threatened the Government with information he claimed to have.

"I don’t bluff, I make promises. They have until Monday and then The Blaze will expose it.” he said.

Are you now claiming that Beck threaten the Government with his opinion?

So, for Beck, a promised threat by him now turns into a courtroom battle in order for him to divulge his secret information?

You couldn't make this absurdity up if you tried.

>>However once again you fail to observe and listen to the fact that "For The Record" is not coming from Glenn's mouth, it is presented by those involved in and with the investigation. But since you have never view them, you have nothing to base your 'OPINION' on and therefore it is mere speculation.<<

Are you trying to claim that Beck has no hand in all that is broadcast on his network?

Sorry, not with his ego. He is listed as the Executive producer you know.

>>Must you try to put words in my mouth....<<

Didn't try at all. Didn't have to.

As you said, "Might be worth a $1 to you, but probably not since paying for researched news probably is in your universe as they have to be responsible for what they investigate and present."

Clearly, you think that paying for researched news legitimizes it.

Reminds me of the saying of one of Glenn's martyrs he recently compared himself to; "Who's more foolish, the fool, or the fool that follows him".



[Edited by: F5 at 9/19/2014 3:50:22 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:53:57 AM

"Glenn has speculated with 'HIS OPINION' right or wrong. (Court is still in session)"

Um, he said he had documents that 'proved' that the Saudi Kid was a terrorist. That is more than just his opinion - hence the pending litigation...
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:53:09 AM

"Um, I've provided numerous instances where Beck speculates with his baseless so-called facts, the Saudi Nat'l kid just being one on many."

Many links have been posted to dozen's of inaccurate - if not outright false - 'reports' made by Beck.

You can only bring his minions to water, you cannot make them drink.

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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 5:34:22 AM

F5 "Ahh, the personal attack with no argument. Expected response."

No personal attack on you, only your lack of observance and source of your 'OPINION'.

"Um, I've provided numerous instances where Beck speculates with his baseless so-called facts, the Saudi Nat'l kid just being one on many.
Where are the facts your Prophet Beck threaten the Gov't to expose if they "didn't come clean"? ‘I Don’t Bluff, I Make Promises’ he said.
Gee, it's only been like a year and a half since he made that threat.
You remember the Saudi kid, you know, the money man.
“What I know could make this the most important story of our lifetime,” Beck said.

Glenn has speculated with 'HIS OPINION' right or wrong. (Court is still in session)

"I know what I've already seen from Beck. Don't need to watch his little "For the Record" show to expect anything less than the usual Beck speculation and baseless conjecture."

However once again you fail to observe and listen to the fact that "For The Record" is not coming from Glenn's mouth, it is presented by those involved in and with the investigation. But since you have never view them, you have nothing to base your 'OPINION' on and therefore it is mere speculation.

"Again, it's interesting how you feel paying Beck somehow legitimizes the research; that it must be true, after all, you are paying for it. As if all the other talk Glenn is responsible for saying is just his usual irresponsible tripe."

Must you try to put words in my mouth......yes, because that supports your fallacies. Nothing in the world is "Free", except perhaps your 'OPINION". I don't care who says or states something as long as it makes sense and can be backed up with facts and sources, be those "OPINIONS" or speculation.
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 5:04:39 AM

This is the first explanation of what happened in 1916 that explains why there seems to be no solution to the Middle East conflict since 1948 Balfour Declaration, it is because there is earlier beginning of broken promises and lies that's not been taught. Listen/read to the end and tell me that it doesn't make sense why there will never be a two state solution. As to the solution..........?

"Glenn Beck broke down the history of the Middle East on his television program Thursday, focusing on a nearly 100-year-old agreement that he says is integral to understanding the motivations of the Islamic State: the Sykes-Picot Agreement.

If you do not understand the Sykes-Picot Agreement, Beck said, you cannot fully understand the Islamic State, or why the Israelis and the Palestinians will never reach a two-state solution.

Though many go back to 1948 and the creation of the modern state of Israel when examining the history of Middle Eastern conflicts, Beck said you actually have to go back to 1916 and World War I.

“This is the last time the Arab world had a united Islamic State led by a religious leader: the Ottoman Empire, the caliphate,” Beck began. “The Allies knew the Ottoman Empire could shut down key shipping routes and cripple Britain’s economy, France’s. … They had to neutralize it. So Great Britain sent over an Army officer from Britain, and his name was T.E. Lawrence. There was a movie made about him, a great movie with Peter O’Toole called ‘Lawrence of Arabia.’”

The 100-Year-Old Agreement You Need to Know About to Understand What’s Driving the Islamic State
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 4:08:18 PM

>>Expected response, since you have absolutely no facts or proof of "speculation and baseless conjecture" being used as research, having never seen what you criticize, making your criticism more foolish than your baseless opinions......Thank you for showing your ability to create from whole cloth with no backing for your opinions.<<

Ahh, the personal attack with no argument. Expected response.

Um, I've provided numerous instances where Beck speculates with his baseless so-called facts, the Saudi Nat'l kid just being one on many.

Where are the facts your Prophet Beck threaten the Gov't to expose if they "didn't come clean"? ‘I Don’t Bluff, I Make Promises’ he said.

Gee, it's only been like a year and a half since he made that threat.
You remember the Saudi kid, you know, the money man.

“What I know could make this the most important story of our lifetime,” Beck said.

I know what I've already seen from Beck. Don't need to watch his little "For the Record" show to expect anything less than the usual Beck speculation and baseless conjecture.

Again, it's interesting how you feel paying Beck somehow legitimizes the research; that it must be true, after all, you are paying for it. As if all the other talk Glenn is responsible for saying is just his usual irresponsible tripe.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 2:13:00 PM

"Biased"

Agreed - Beck is biased!
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 6:15:49 AM

Biased
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 3:42:22 AM

F5 - "Never watched, that's a given.
Speculation and baseless conjecture is not research in my universe.
Paying for it is just foolish."

Expected response, since you have absolutely no facts or proof of "speculation and baseless conjecture" being used as research, having never seen what you criticize, making your criticism more foolish than your baseless opinions......Thank you for showing your ability to create from whole cloth with no backing for your opinions.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 2:33:25 AM

>>That's right, perhaps you have never watched any of the "For The Record" documentaries in the last 3 years? Might be worth a $1 to you, but probably not since paying for researched news probably is in your universe as they have to be responsible for what they investigate and present........ <<

Never watched, that's a given.
Speculation and baseless conjecture is not research in my universe.
Paying for it is just foolish.

Interesting how you feel paying Beck somehow legitimizes the research; as if all the other stuff Glenn is responsible for saying is . . . irresponsible.

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F5 - "Researched investigations?"

That's right, perhaps you have never watched any of the "For The Record" documentaries in the last 3 years? Might be worth a $1 to you, but probably not since paying for researched news probably is in your universe as they have to be responsible for what they investigate and present........
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 4:49:30 PM

>>season 3 for the researched investigations.<<

Researched investigations?

That would be quite a radical departure from Beck's usual baseless conjecture and innuendo.

But, he did do stellar research on the Saudi Nat'l kid . . . . . . . .oh wait, he never did reveal that information he had . . . . . . . . . never mind.

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 12:56:58 PM

If you don't care for Glenn's 'opinions' then by his own words, watch "For The Record" season 3 for the researched investigations.

Watch Glenn discuss the importance of tonight's For the Record Season Premiere
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2014 10:41:45 AM

US Embassy still standing in Baghdad - US Marines sent by Obama have yet to demolish the place...
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 10:25:22 AM

I find Glenn Beck to be a bit extreme. While I see the logic of how he gets from point A to point B on his blackboard, I don't necessarily agree with his conclusions.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 10:19:20 AM

"“This is 'my speculation', but I’m pretty sure of it,” Glenn said. “What the hell are 275 people going to do? Here’s my guess: Those are not just regular Marines. Those are Marines that are being sent directly to the embassy, not to defend, but to destroy.""

So, exactly like I said then;

US Embassy in Baghdad still has yet to be blown-up by the Marines Obama sent in months ago, despite Beck assuring his minions that he believes so strongly in it that he had to 'break the news'.

Thanks for the confirmation ;)
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 9:42:04 PM

Buzz - ". Who cares what Beck dribbles? Who keeps bumping this Beck thread up..."

You'll have to query Spit about that.........he likes to pound his tin drum on his favorite misrepresentations over and over again............lol
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 7:57:52 PM

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. Who cares what Beck dribbles? Who keeps bumping this Beck thread up...
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 7:26:41 PM

Speculation . . . thy name is Beck.
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Spit - "US Embassy in Baghdad still has yet to be blown-up by the Marines Obama sent in months ago, despite Beck assuring his minions that he believes so strongly in it that he had to 'break the news'."

Silly man, must I keep posting what WAS REALLY said by Glenn as opposed to your altered and opinionated version? Apparently so..........: (Note the 'Is'?

Is Obama sending troops to Baghdad to destroy the U.S. embassy ahead of an attack?

"On Monday’s radio program, Glenn boldly declared that he 'hopes' the United States detonates its $1 billion Baghdad embassy before it falls into enemy hands. While Glenn was not sure exactly what is going on at the embassy, he knows from his own research that something is not right there."
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"“This is 'my speculation', but I’m pretty sure of it,” Glenn said. “What the hell are 275 people going to do? Here’s my guess: Those are not just regular Marines. Those are Marines that are being sent directly to the embassy, not to defend, but to destroy.”

Due to the sheer size and scope of the embassy, Glenn believes that 'if' the President was really serious about defending the property, he would have sent a bigger team."
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 1:36:34 PM

US Embassy in Baghdad still has yet to be blown-up by the Marines Obama sent in months ago, despite Beck assuring his minions that he believes so strongly in it that he had to 'break the news'.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 7:46:30 PM

Glenn Beck Reads ‘11 Ways You Know You Live in a Country Run by Idiots’

“If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more, you live in a country run by idiots,” he said. “If an 80-year-old woman can be strip-searched by the TSA but a woman in a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched, you live in a country run by idiots.”
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2014 3:35:41 PM

"I thought Bush went in to Iraq without a plan."

You'll hafta ask those who were critical at the time - I wasn't.

"Or after the surge?"

Correct. But don't take my word for it, Google it on your own...

"I don't know. We kept troops in Germany, Japan, and Korea for decades after those wars."

Which of those were sectarian conflicts?

"sure glad none of that is going on in Iraq now, right?"

Helping stem the tide with a handful of airstrikes is a far cry from fighting the battles for them, no?
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2014 3:28:24 PM

"LISTEN NOW! » ‘Her response sounds like my mother’s’: Glenn reacts to the suspension of NFL running back Ray Rice"

Hard not to agree with Beck when he says common sense things like 'hitting women is bad'.

He is right, I don't know many women that would put up with being knocked-out by a guy... Nor should they.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2014 3:22:16 PM

Was that the plan? I thought Bush went in to Iraq without a plan.
Was that the plan in 2003? Or in 2006? Or after the surge? And would Bush have removed 100% of our ground troops as 0bama did?
How long should we have stayed? Ten Years? Twenty years?
I don't know. We kept troops in Germany, Japan, and Korea for decades after those wars. Pundits at the time said Germany could never be governed. I guess those pundits turned out to be wrong.

'Military action from outsiders' - sure glad none of that is going on in Iraq now, right?
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2014 3:02:02 PM

"Iraq appears a "mistake" only because 0bama withdrew too early..."

You do realize Bush's plan called for a withdrawal of troops by 2011, right?

How long should we have stayed with a residual force? 10 years? 20? How long does it take for sectarian differences to 'work themselves out'? Military action from outsiders sure doesn't help to that end...
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