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Cliffisher

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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 3:48:04 PM

Of the confirmed speakers list for the Conservative Policy Action Conference – and presumably the most notable – just four women are listed, while 24 men made the early list. All but three of the confirmed men and women speaking are white, too.

The chosen CPAC speakers are generally the year’s “who’s who” in the Republican Party. This year, the list includes nearly every 2016 possibility, including Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and Rep. Paul Ryan.

On the XX-chromosome side of things, there’s CPAC stalwart Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, the tea party’s Jenny Beth Martin, and the chairman of the group that organizes CPAC, American Conservative Union, Carly Fiorina. And the right wonders why they are on the losing side?



[Edited by: Cliffisher at 2/26/2014 3:52:10 PM EST]
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 9:27:13 AM

Yes, AnotherOne.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 2:49:28 AM

"Pat Garofalo is a twit who tweets nonsense. (IMO, most tweets are nonsense sent by twits.)"

That's my take on tweeting also. If a thought can be adequately expressed in no more than 140 characters, then it's probably not worth sharing in the first place.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2014 8:59:34 AM



nstrdnvstr, do you usually go to the national?

Good for you!!

And it sounds like you volunteer there as well?

Double good for you.

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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2014 5:52:28 AM

EZExit, you can also check into volunteering for it. I consider the regional ones "practice" for the national because it is much smaller and shorter.
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2014 1:25:45 AM

nstrdnvstr: <<<"EZExit, there will be a 1 day regional CPAC in August in San Diego.">>>

--I didn't know this, I might just go to this, thanks for the heads up. I hope that if I do indeed attend, that this won't trigger an audit of my taxes...
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 5:08:50 PM

At least they have the strength in their spines to be able to say they made a mistake ---- unlike the more liberal leaners...... snicker snort chuckle...
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:44:17 PM

Another worthless conservative apology.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:44:17 PM

"You are extrapolating that it is a racist tweet because white guys can't jump and are underrepresented in the NBA?"

Actually the T-Wolves have 7 "white guys" if you count Rubio and Berea.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:43:23 PM

"Too bad just making a racist statement isn't enough to discredit him with whites, too."

Are you saying whites are not NBA fans?
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:39:15 PM

Queue the backpedalling music:

"St. Paul- Rep. Pat Garofalo (R-Farmington) gave the following statement in response to his comments Sunday evening.

“In the last 24 hours, I’ve had the opportunity to re-learn one of life’s lessons: whenever any of us are offering opinions, it is best to refer to people as individuals as opposed to groups. Last night, I publicly commented on the NBA and I sincerely apologize to those who I unfairly categorized. The NBA has many examples of players and owners who are role models for our communities and for our country. Those individuals did not deserve that criticism and I apologize. In addition, it’s been brought to my attention that I was mistaken and the NBA policy on drug enforcement is stronger than I previously believed. Again, I offer my sincere apologies for my comments,” stated Rep. Garofalo.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:36:38 PM

"Pat Garofalo is a twit who tweets nonsense. (IMO, most tweets are nonsense sent by twits.) Since he has an NBA team in his hood, he might regret that particular tweet when the next election rolls around. "

Well technically, Garofalo's district is about 40 miles from Target Center and his "hood" is about 94.2% white and 1.8% Black or African_American, so probably not a big threat.

Also the T-Wolves are passing for an NBA team (thanks to K-Love) but barely.

[Edited by: Zimcity at 3/10/2014 4:37:52 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:24:51 PM

"(IMO, most tweets are nonsense sent by twits.)"


*ROTFL*

Generally, I agree with you, but twitter CAN be a powerful and informative tool when used properly...

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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:06:27 PM

"Since he has an NBA team in his hood, he might regret that particular tweet when the next election rolls around."

Too bad just making a racist statement isn't enough to discredit him with whites, too.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 3:53:04 PM

Marty,

You are extrapolating that it is a racist tweet because white guys can't jump and are underrepresented in the NBA? Sounds suspiciously racist on your part. Maybe it would be OK if more swimmers got into legal trouble, since few blacks swim competitively. Really, I think it's more looking for something to be a victim of or outraged at.

Hmmm, increase in crime seems more likely with the Ravens, and they don't even need to fold, just offseason stuff. Three so far...

[Edited by: teacher_tim at 3/10/2014 3:57:44 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 3:46:46 PM

Pat Garofalo is a twit who tweets nonsense. (IMO, most tweets are nonsense sent by twits.) Since he has an NBA team in his hood, he might regret that particular tweet when the next election rolls around.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 3:37:46 PM

Coming up with ways to disparage blacks without coming out and saying you are has become an art form.

Case in point: “Let’s be honest, 70% of teams in NBA could fold tomorrow + nobody would notice a difference w/ possible exception of increase in streetcrime.” --Pat Garofalo, Minnesota House of Representatives
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 2:01:07 PM

"Somehow you try to twist that into us being "racist". "


I twist nothing at all.

I'm not going to rehash that dumb thread, but will note that you just choose to overlook the comments that proved what I say...No surprise there tho.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 1:50:40 PM

Yeah, Norm , I remember that thread, where some of us posted things that happened that blacks did to other blacks. Somehow you try to twist that into us being "racist". That places you among the deniers. How does it feel to get tagged with that label?
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 1:44:59 PM

"We see the generalized race baiting comments from so many lefties on this board all the time."


Ditto for those on the right.

You know, like all of the race baiting comments that proliferated the "Black America's Problem" thread...

SMH
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 1:10:44 PM

sgm4law, it wasn't a "parallel group". It was something completely different and unrelated in another part of the building.

The only "crossover" that would have taken place is the mingling in the common areas, the lobby and hallways, the bar afterwards, etc.

[Edited by: nstrdnvstr at 3/10/2014 1:14:05 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 11:28:36 AM

"I don't know where that person was looking (to be fair, there was another conference going on in the same building at that time) but a great majority of the people were dressed "normally", and I saw practically every person that went into the main ballroom for those sessions."

Read the articles I linked.




"but I don't think she would be able to handle the constant barrage of personal attacks that would be leveled at her."

Translation: She's an unsuitable candidate because she may fold under criticism, like she did when she was Governor of Alaska.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/10/2014 11:30:26 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 11:26:34 AM

"but I don't think she would be able to handle the constant barrage of personal attacks that would be leveled at her."


Both Bush and Obama were subject even more personal attacks than Palin, but neither of them quit their jobs...So no, Sarah P ain't presidential caliber.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 11:19:36 AM

"To all those who believe the Republican Party is racist and the Democrat Party has been attentive to all non-whites, especially Blacks, you may want to check out the topic, "Black Republicans Petition Obama for an Apology" before continuing to post to this race baiting topic."

We see the generalized race baiting comments from so many lefties on this board all the time. This thread is a prime example. It is based in absolutely nothing and when pressed for answers they run away from the subject.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 10:17:52 AM

Mother Jones has an interesting article on the people who were not at CPAC, but nearby. Did you know of this parallel activity going on, nstrdnvstr? Was there a lot of crossover between the two groups' activities?
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 10:17:20 AM



mstrdnvstr, "I don't know where that person was looking ... and I saw practically every person that went into the main ballroom for those sessions."

Liberals "generalize" all the time!

;-)

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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 10:11:35 AM

MiddletownMarty, "Here is a short list of the things and people present at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference: Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, a panel on the world after Obamacare ends medicine, a session on the global-warming “hoax.” Star Wars cosplayers. A large gaggle of stressed, frustrated journalists. Awkward teenage boys in the Beltway uniform of triple-pleated khakis, oversize blue blazers, and unusually wide ties."

I don't know where that person was looking (to be fair, there was another conference going on in the same building at that time) but a great majority of the people were dressed "normally", and I saw practically every person that went into the main ballroom for those sessions.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 11:19:54 PM



nstrdnvstr, don't you love the snarkiness from the liberals.

Liberals who "were not there" know everything better than you do, and you WERE there!

ROTFL

They are caught in their own words and false claims again and again.

The libs always think they are smarter and know more than anyone else.

They haven't even learned to read and to talk to people who were there and learned from them.

;-)

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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 9:22:25 PM

Marty, "
"There were MANY minorities at CPAC, both as attendees and as volunteers!"

Of course there were."

I met ALL the volunteers and many of the attendees. So I know this for a fact.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 9:18:02 PM

EZExit, there will be a 1 day regional CPAC in August in San Diego.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 8:59:02 PM

I would have liked to attend CPAC, but just couldn't get away at this time. I did watch parts of it, Sarah Palin was laser focused in her keynote speech, it's too bad that she wouldn't go far in a presidential race, I think that she would be a great leader for this country, but I don't think she would be able to handle the constant barrage of personal attacks that would be leveled at her.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 8:19:33 PM

And it has nothing to do with CPAC.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 8:05:52 PM

Never said that.
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MTMarty, why then did you tell people around here that you register as a Republican so that you can vote in THEIR primaries and vote for the weakest candidates?

That is called 'dirty tricks'.

We KNOW from your statements around here that there is NO WAY you are even close to BEING a Republican or a conservative. You are a flaming liberal.

Hey everybody! Look around the topics.

More liberal dishonesty on display in the topics around here.

ROTFL



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 3/9/2014 7:56:19 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 7:43:44 PM

I'm not trying to tell you that; I did tell you that.

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MTMarty, "I'm a registered Republican."

More abject dishonesty.

MTMarty, are you really trying to tell us that YOU are a Republican?

Or are you "REGISTERED" as a Republican so that you can cause mischief and trouble for Republicans in your area .... as YOU have already ADMITTED that you are doing.

Once again, Democrat DISHONESTY on FULL display right here.

ROTFL

SMH

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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 4:16:38 PM

"Sorry, you guys are fubar and there is no way around it."

I don't know who "you guys" refers to. I'm a registered Republican.



Did you even bother to read the quote by Sailor?



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/9/2014 4:20:29 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 4:10:18 PM

I've noticed that your every post mentions Obama and/or Obamacare, even when they're not the subject. Have you any comments about CPAC and the message Republicans are sending? How should the Republican Party increase minority participation? Featuring Wayne LaPierre as a speaker ain't gonna do it.



[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/9/2014 4:11:27 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 4:07:23 PM

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To all those who believe the Republican Party is racist and the Democrat Party has been attentive to all non-whites, especially Blacks, you may want to check out the topic, "Black Republicans Petition Obama for an Apology" before continuing to post to this race baiting topic.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 3:55:38 PM

MM - your "messaging" theory is spot on however I think Democrats have the message crisis going on. So let's talk messaging.

"People aren't stupid; they actually do listen to what's being said, along with any hidden subtext that accompanies it."

How much hidden subtext was in the Obamacare messaging?
All of it
How much of what was said in campaign 2012 was true?
None of it

People aren't stupid, and it is now costing them money -- which is a certain election killer for Democrats. They can't walk back the health care inflation they inflicted on the Individual Market.

That saying "It's a recession when your neighbor loses their job and a depression when you lose yours" -- apply that Healthcare, everybody knows somebody who got sideswiped by this nasty law -- or themselves. How can this be? I was suppose to save $2500 if I vote for Obama!

I saw a facebook post the other day from a gal who use to work for me 10 years ago touting how great Obamacare was. Single, her rates went down. It took about 5 minutes for 6 people in her friends circle to chime in on how it had destroyed their family policy -- and couldn't afford these steep increases. Within 24 hour she felt so bad for what was happening to real people she knew -- not what she reads on Huffpo. Oh, and all her respondents were WOMEN! Oh oh, war on women backfire?

Now repeat this a million times -- "oh I love my Obamacare" is met with 6 women who will tell their Obamacare horror story in their family.

Obama claims he had a "messaging problem" -- No sir, you have a reality problem. This is real, and you have wrecked real people's healthcare.

Sorry, you guys are fubar and there is no way around it.



[Edited by: e_jeepin at 3/9/2014 4:01:30 PM EST]
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MTMarty, "If not for the media nobody would know about CPAC or what goes on there. Don't blame the media for accurately carrying the Republican message."

ROTFL

Are you seriously trying to tell us that the media is not solidly biased to the left?

Well, you are a majority of ONE if that is what you are trying to claim ... independent studies for decades have shown that liberal bias in the media.

If the media gave the same biased coverage to the Democrats that they do to the Republicans, Democrats would NEVER win another race again.

Republicans have survived in SPITE of the media twisting and lying about the Republican 'message'.

Can you imagine what Republicans would do if the media gave them the support that they give the Democrats.

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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 1:59:49 PM

"But then again, I would also challenge your premise in that the minority "leaders" need to stop calling Reps racists and actually LISTEN to what they have to say, and evaluate it logically and unemotionally. It would also help if the minority leadership would cede points where the Reps are right."

The Republican leadership controls its own message. If that message isn't well-received, the problem is with the message and not with the listener. People aren't stupid; they actually do listen to what's being said, along with any hidden subtext that accompanies it. If Republicans don't like how their message is received they should work on the message by changing how they talk about the issues and who they talk to.



"But isn't it interesting how black conservatives, in particular, are excoriated in the media for their views?"

If not for the media nobody would know about CPAC or what goes on there. Don't blame the media for accurately carrying the Republican message.

"The panel of Gillespie, Roe, Sailor and Woodson was there to address a basic question: how do we grow our ranks in areas where we traditionally underperform?

"The advice was solid. Woodson explained that one problem is that “we don’t have a ground game” particularly in minority neighborhoods. Sailor eloquently noted a key to Republican success: “We don’t have to abandon our existing friends to make new ones.” The message was simple. Republicans don’t necessarily have to change their values. They have to change how they talk about the issues and who they talk to. That takeaway is not a tall order, but something doable, something digestible. And, most notably, there are people in the party who know how to do it.

"Yet, for some time, the message didn't just fall on deaf ears—there were few sets of ears in the room."

Republicans aren't listening to sound advice even when it's in the same convention center they're in. That's not the media's fault.




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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 1:08:33 PM

MiddletownMarty said: "Republicans seem uninterested in doing anything to change that perception, which has nothing to do with any supposed portrayal by Democrats. The Republican Party owns that image, and the composition of the CPAC speakers list just reinforces it."

--Marty - this is one of the more intelligent comments I've seen you post. Kudos for that. Now, are Republicans "uninterested", or are minority leaders still portraying Reps as racists? Well, I would say that the Reps need to "sell" their message better. But then again, I would also challenge your premise in that the minority "leaders" need to stop calling Reps racists and actually LISTEN to what they have to say, and evaluate it logically and unemotionally. It would also help if the minority leadership would cede points where the Reps are right.

But isn't it interesting how black conservatives, in particular, are excoriated in the media for their views? Not good, particularly when these folks are trying to help ALL Americans, including minorities.

SGM - I think nobody is going to squall about helping those who are truly not able bodied or able minded, nor for orphans, widows and the elderly. And I think nobody wants to not offer a helping hand to those in need - temporarily. But we have to admit honestly that the policies of Johnson's "Great Society" have failed. They have not managed to reduce poverty, but rather, to increase it by enabling poor life choices and not expecting people to work for their keep. We are now entering the 4th generation of poor who are now living off the public dole. It cannot go on. Just exactly how much of my money should I be giving to those who are "less fortunate" because they somehow "deserve" my support? Here, now - top income tax rates in CA are over 13% Add to that my 31% federal burden and that's 44% of my money taken from me, NOT including SSI, Medicare, etc. Why am I not allowed to keep the fruits of my labor and distribute it as I see fit?
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 1:01:38 PM

On one of the panels the introduction of one of the panellists caused many injuries in Wisconsin.

People all over the state were injured when they fell out of their chairs and rolled on the floor when one of the CPAC people introduced Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark as a Democrat.

Clark is so far right that they removed his left turn signal on his squad car.
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 12:04:53 PM

Live from CPAC: The Most Important Panel Everyone Missed


"About ten minutes into the panel, I snapped a photo (shown above) of a largely empty ballroom. The lack of attendance for the panel is a huge loss and missed opportunity for participants. CPAC brings together some of the Republican Party’s most passionate, engaged, and eager members. The people who attend the meetings run campaigns, volunteer for issue-based efforts and candidates’ campaigns. They are leadership in an army of grassroots conservatism. The panel of Gillespie, Roe, Sailor and Woodson was there to address a basic question: how do we grow our ranks in areas where we traditionally underperform?

The advice was solid. Woodson explained that one problem is that “we don’t have a ground game” particularly in minority neighborhoods. Sailor eloquently noted a key to Republican success: “We don’t have to abandon our existing friends to make new ones.” The message was simple. Republicans don’t necessarily have to change their values. They have to change how they talk about the issues and who they talk to. That takeaway is not a tall order, but something doable, something digestible. And, most notably, there are people in the party who know how to do it.

Yet, for some time, the message didn't just fall on deaf ears—there were few sets of ears in the room. Suddenly, that changed. In fact, as I tweeted the above photo, I had a response from someone who snapped a picture of a much fuller room. That picture was accurate and so was mine. That picture showed a nearly full ballroom, while my picture showed an empty one. So what was the difference?

The difference was that the diversity panel ran over its time. People began filling in—in droves. Why the change of heart? The diversity panel ran late and into the time slot for NRA executive Wayne LaPierre to address CPAC in the same room. LaPierre went on to give a rousing speech that generated some of the loudest enthusiasm of the day from the crowd. Yet, therein lies the problem. Speaking to gun rights supporters is not the path to Republican success at the national level. Most ardent supporters of the 2nd Amendment find Democrats to be a threat and reliably vote Republican. Wayne LaPierre doesn’t change minds. He doesn’t necessarily grow the party, as people have very polarized views about him and the topic for which he very successfully and eloquently advocates.





[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 3/9/2014 12:06:16 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 11:59:28 AM

At CPAC, Slim Pickings in ‘Minority Outreach’


For all the urgency in the 2012 post-mortem’s directive to reach out to minority voters, the GOP’s vanguard still isn’t offering them anything new—not that anyone’s listening anyway.

Here is a short list of the things and people present at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference: Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan, a panel on the world after Obamacare ends medicine, a session on the global-warming “hoax.” Star Wars cosplayers. A large gaggle of stressed, frustrated journalists. Awkward teenage boys in the Beltway uniform of triple-pleated khakis, oversize blue blazers, and unusually wide ties.

But with all the people and conversations and exhibitions and presentations—which ran the gamut of conservative concerns and characters—there was one thing missing: a meaningful effort at minority outreach.

I add “meaningful” because there was something of an effort at trying to address the Republican Party’s problem with race. To wit, the main attraction for Thursday afternoon was a panel on outreach to “nontraditional voting blocs,” featuring Ed Gillespie, the former RNC head turned Senate candidate in Virginia, and two black conservatives: Robert Woodson, president of the Center for Neighborhood Enterprise, and Elroy Sailor, a close partner of former Rep. J.C. Watts.

It wasn’t a bad lineup. But there were two big problems. First, no one cared. The event—held on the main stage of the conference—was nearly empty. The CPAC crowd, it seemed, had better things to do than think about its relationship with black and brown Americans.

And second? Judging from the description, the panel was designed for disappointment. Billed as a discussion on “how to bring conservative ideas of liberty, opportunity, and prosperity to nontraditional voting blocs and teach party and movement leaders how to embrace them,” the hourlong panel was a rote restatement of the GOP boilerplate on outreach.

For instance, when moderator Jason Roe, a Revolvis Consulting partner, asked whether, to “do better with minority voters,” Republicans should “moderate our policies” or “renew our commitment to communicating how our policies will help,” no one jumped at the former approach. Instead, the panel focused on the latter, as if blacks and Latinos have never heard the supply-side gospel of Saint Reagan, or the Good News of “individual responsibility” and personal “uplift.”


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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 10:24:24 AM

"It was NOT any outreach party."

Reaching Out: The Rest of the Story, Potomac Ballroom

CPAC 2014 schedule
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MiddletownMarty
Champion Author Connecticut

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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 10:04:14 AM

"Marty, that was the ballroom before anyone was in it."

Is that so? Are there any pictures? How about video... you know, like the CSPAN video at the bottom of the article I linked?



"There were MANY minorities at CPAC, both as attendees and as volunteers!"

Of course there were.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 1:34:08 AM



Ahhh yes, libs are blind to color!

They cannot see any blacks unless they are members of the NAALCP!

If a black is not a liberal, he is just an "Uncle Tom" or a "House Slave" or a "Ventriloquists Puppet" as the liberals are so fond of calling them.

As I have so often said, liberals are among the few TRUE racists still around!

So since they cannot see an independent bright black who is not a liberal, they only see a WHITE CPAC!

SMH

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nstrdnvstr
Champion Author Twin Cities

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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 1:31:48 AM

Marty, that was the ballroom before anyone was in it. It was NOT any outreach party. Obviously the crooks and liars kept to their names as Liars! There were MANY minorities at CPAC, both as attendees and as volunteers!

But don't let the facts get in the way of your propaganda!

I know first hand, I was there!
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 1:26:15 AM

"The GOP Threw A Minority Outreach Party At CPAC: Nobody Showed Up!"

You mean the Canadian, the Cuban & the Indian were all no shows?

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