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AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 10:06:33 AM

WOW!
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 10:37:28 AM

<<Unfortunately, for way too many "university" students, they are never exposed to any ideas except VERY liberal ideas in most universities.>>

I went to a liberal arts college. I vividly remember my freshman year, where my roommate literally subscribed to a Spanish/English Communist newspaper (and she hated the people who went to our school, many of whom were quite privileged), and another of my friends was a member of the Objectivist Society and got me to read The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged.

Since I was a science major, and this was back before the sciences had become politicized (or religicized, :P ), there wasn't much controversial discussion in my science classes. My econ classes were taught by conservatives, and I don't remember any liberal professors teaching dogmatically.

So I would have to say that the most "out there" opinions I ran into were those of fellow students, rather than faculty members. In undergrad, anyway.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 10:22:46 AM

Sounds like things we have heard before.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 10:13:07 AM

Once again, it was "lower level officials" and the higher officials had "no idea" it was happening. Gee, that sounds familiar somehow...

VERY fami-LIAR!
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2014 9:57:38 AM

Oregon State University pays $101,000 to settle suit over trashed conservative paper
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2014 1:14:01 PM

"PLUS, sorry to burst your bubble but part of going to a University is learning that there are other ideas out there. Something you clearly have trouble comprehending."

That would be wonderful if it presented it in a unbiased way. So where is the textbook about bad liberal policies leading us down the path of socialism? I did not see anyone using that book anywhere....
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2014 12:35:28 PM

. BushJr. LIED us into two unneeded wars with his 'Saddam has WMDs' claims... for two weeks after 9/11, he claimed his buddy Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11... he never got his buddy Osama bin Laden... 12,000 Americans died needlessly during his 8 years... and his toxic mortgage scam to get re-elected in 2004 eventually brought the USA to it's knees for the first time since 1929:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/10/glec-o11.html
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 6:10:51 AM

BuzzLOL, "... starting with EvilBushJr., the definition of liberal has become: one who simply dares tell the truth about things... a conservative is one who lies his/her ass off for a living... wish we could go back to the earlier definitions some day..."

Seriously??

Well, let's see, which party was the one that told so many lies in order to get the failure ObamaCare passes?

If you like your plan you can keep it. If you like your doctor you can keep them. The average family will save $2500 a year. It will lower the deficit...
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 11:28:54 PM

"First of all, liberals have proven themselves to be some of the dumbest people on the planet. They just *think* they're smarter"

Typical jealous con-also evidence of lack of comprehension of reality.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 5:18:26 PM



ZimCity, "PLUS, sorry to burst your bubble but part of going to a University is learning that there are other ideas out there. Something you clearly have trouble comprehending."

AFSNCO comprehends that very well.

Unfortunately, for way too many "university" students, they are never exposed to any ideas except VERY liberal ideas in most universities.

So I agree with you, ZimCity. I WISH that university students were exposed to OTHER ideas than just radical liberal ideas.

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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 2:10:48 PM

lol, I'm so glad you post ridiculous topics like this and then make bad assumptions about what I read.

Clearly the comments about conservatives are even more accurate than those about Reagan, as evidenced on a daily basis by the posts on this forum, the talking points spewed ad nauseum on Fox and other conservative outlets.

PLUS, sorry to burst your bubble but part of going to a University is learning that there are other ideas out there. Something you clearly have trouble comprehending.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 1:31:32 PM

"starting with EvilBushJr., the definition of liberal has become: one who simply dares tell the truth about things... a conservative is one who lies his/her ass off for a living... wish we could go back to the earlier definitions some day..."

And liberals are what, sugar, spice and everything nice? You guys are so pathetic at your attempts to demonize the right that you fall from tripping because your blinders do not let you see any obstacles in the way.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 1:29:49 PM

"Yes, thank God for sites like Breitbart and the Blaze for getting this story to Fox so Megyn Kelly could inform us all of the poor confused student having all of her Reagan myths shattered before her eyes."

I am so glad that you only read the part about Reagan in that book and did not read the rest of what it said about conservatives. Now that folks is what we like to refer to as another "well-informed" liberal!
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 1:04:27 PM

Here's a nice BLAZE piece:
California College Learns $50,000 Lesson in Fight With Student Over First Amendment

i wonder what the response would have been if it was the ACA instead of the Constitution?
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 12:57:30 PM

"You notice the article from sgm is typical liberal garbage. High on emotion and very low on actual fact. But that is a different side to the story. "

Yes, thank God for sites like Breitbart and the Blaze for getting this story to Fox so Megyn Kelly could inform us all of the poor confused student having all of her Reagan myths shattered before her eyes.
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 12:08:35 PM

. The problem here is the definitions of the words liberal and conservative... to start with, I'm a lifelong registered Republican saying this... starting with EvilBushJr., the definition of liberal has become: one who simply dares tell the truth about things... a conservative is one who lies his/her ass off for a living... wish we could go back to the earlier definitions some day...

. And remember, Reagan was a card-carrying "union thug", "Communist", and a Democrat... before getting Alzheimer's and selling out for more money and becoming a Republican...!!!


[Edited by: BuzzLOL at 3/7/2014 12:12:31 PM EST]
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 10:47:31 AM

sgm, nice piece....a link to someone's left wing blog/online garbage. But here is the 100-point question. Did the book say those things about conservatives? It is a simple yes or no answer...

You notice the article from sgm is typical liberal garbage. High on emotion and very low on actual fact. But that is a different side to the story.
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2014 11:15:05 PM

This is a prime example of why I tell my kids to question everything and do your own research.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2014 6:23:46 AM

"Rutgers faculty protest Condoleezza Rice as commencement speaker"

How DARE anyone present a viewpoint contrary to the uber-liberal pablum dished out by us?!link to source
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 6:56:47 PM

Thanks for the uber-liberal spin site to back up Chapman's claim, sgm4law. Chapman's analysis was confirmed. I'm surprised Wonkette didn't suggest burning books, too.

Agreed on the link thing!

The uber-liberal snarkfest was instructive with THIS:
"So, OK, you read something in the textbook, the professor didn’t actually lecture about it in class, but she also failed to “denounce” it. Happily, Chapman was there to protect her fellow students from those lies. And yet, even though the university said that it encouraged students to vigorously debate ideas, this too is more liberal brainwashing, because the book is still required reading and the professor has not been fired. (Surprisingly, the prof’s name doesn’t appear to have exploded across the wingnuttosphere — how will anyone know whom to make death threats against without that vital information?)"
Read more at http://wonkette.com/542540/text deleted

If only the Left had been so considerate with the Duke University "rich, white boy lynching", or even had apologized after the whole thing was discovered to be a LIE. But no, too mch to expect from those intent on being victims and denouncing every noncompliant voice.

[Edited by: teacher_tim at 2/25/2014 7:05:27 PM EST]
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 4:07:25 PM

Jeez, as usual, the story is far from the truth.

[L=http://wonkette.com/542540/text deleted Wonkette's version[/L], because at least they have screen shots of some of the textbook.

so annoying when the link is too long. It would be nice if the link form would tell you before you hit "post message" that the link is too long. Really.

[Edited by: sgm4law at 2/25/2014 4:08:34 PM EST]
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 2:46:46 PM

I'm guessing that it NEVER occurred to the liberal professor that the book was biased, as it jived with what she knew was "true". Even at upper academic levels, many are misinformed. Not willfully, but through lack of exposure to other viewpoints and information sources.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 2:40:39 PM

BTW, why don't we examine this textbook a bit:

Intended for the Introduction to Social Work/Social Welfare course found in programs of social work at both the undergraduate and graduate levels. This course can also be found in human service and sociology departments.

So my question is, what does the labeling of conservatives and liberal have to do with Social Work and Social Welfare?

As for your comment about it just being on the list, I don't think so. This is a textbook for undergraduate and graduate work...but no, there is no bias in our academic world!
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 2:33:13 PM

"Treating the book as a sprinboard for discussion is better than the conservative way of worshipping the text as fact just because it's printed on paper and the teacher put it on a list. Wow."

The teacher put it on the list or it was a required textbook for the class. It doesn't say it is an alternative reading book or a book that teacher says should be used for further examination...it says textbook for the class. There is a fundamental difference between the two.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 2:06:30 PM

<<"I am glad the University has said something about it, but I don't think what they said was really good enough," said Chapman.>>

"What does she want? Is she hoping they'll burn the book?"

Wow sgm4law, book burning? Why not throw in some Nazis?

How about reading the VERY NEXT LINE OF THE ARTICLE?

"Chapman is hoping they'll take the book out of the curriculum and that whoever selects the textbooks from now on will take a closer look."

Yep, she sure SOUNDS like a radical book-burner. Next she'll probably plot the overthrow of the university!

"This wasn't even a political science class, this was a class about social work," said Chapman. "It worries me that people are teaching this book to kids and people aren't even questioning it. If I didn't keep up with politics, I wouldn't question it."

Chapman adds that she's in the second part of her social work classes now and her current textbook has similar themes.

However, she says she has not had any issues with any of her other classes and doesn't want her textbook concern to be a reflection on the University as a whole."

Oh, maybe this is JUST what it looks like. A bad book selection by a professor who should be encouraged to find less biased books for her class.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 8:31:07 AM

"Of course there is a liberal lean in higher education-after all smart people go there"

ha, or they are afraid or too lazy to get a job... Hmmm.

As for Karl Rove's quote... where worryfree ended it, was a comma... however there was more, but understandably SOME liberals only like to dissect what is said to fit their agenda...



The WHOLE QUOTE... "As people do better, they start voting like Republicans -- unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing." - Karl Rove...


[Edited by: reb4 at 2/25/2014 8:33:55 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 8:13:59 AM

Treating the book as a sprinboard for discussion is better than the conservative way of worshipping the text as fact just because it's printed on paper and the teacher put it on a list. Wow.
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 1:30:29 AM



sgm4law, "Well, if it's a decent school, the book is used as a springboard for discussion rather than a sacred text. It's not a high school, right?"

ROTFL

ROTFL

Well, in this context, it apparently means that LIES are a 'springboard for
discussion'!

I guess the 'liberal discussion' is, how can we tell even BIGGER lies than these!

You just cannot make up the total dishonesty of liberals can you.

Just when you think they cannot get any more dishonest, they DO!

SMH

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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2014 12:48:30 AM

worryfree said: "Of course there is a liberal lean in higher education-after all smart people go there..."

First of all, liberals have proven themselves to be some of the dumbest people on the planet. They just *think* they're smarter. But once they show their capabilities, the picture changes dramatically. Nothing has illustrated that better than the disaster known as ObozoCare.

Second, higher education isn't what it used to be. People are graduating from universities with non-marketable skill sets. Some degrees are about as meaningful as Obozo winning a Nobel prize. In other words, you really don't have to do anything notable to get one.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 11:51:20 PM

proof:

Karl Rove

"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans...unless they have too much education and vote Democratic"
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 11:43:30 PM

Of course there is a liberal lean in higher education-after all smart people go there...
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 7:13:48 PM

sgm4law said: "if it's a decent school, the book is used as a springboard for discussion rather than a sacred text."

Except that when liberals control the subject matter, the only "valid" point of view is the liberal slant and discussion or any other thing that could possibly harm that slant is strictly verboten.

We've seen this in our education system for a long time now. Young, fertile & receptive minds are the easiest in which to plant propaganda and watch it grow.

Recently we've seen the Obozo administration's efforts to suppress "the discussion" of other points of view. The targeting of Tea Party and other conservative groups was primarily intended to squelch the voices of those opposed to the Obozo agenda. This latest attempt by the FCC to infiltrate the media is more of the same.

It's one thing to present opposing views in a textbook and offer students the challenge to dissect and analyze those opinions. That's not what was done here, and Anna Chapman was smart enough to know it wasn't. That text was simply one-sided propaganda intended to paint conservatives as evil demons and liberals as saviors and the guardsmen of all things good and right in the world.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 6:12:08 PM

"Free expression when a textbook like this is used? Ok..."

Well, if it's a decent school, the book is used as a springboard for discussion rather than a sacred text. It's not a high school, right?
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 2:22:30 PM

Free expression when a textbook like this is used? Ok...
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 1:55:15 PM

from the linked article in the OP:

<<"The University of South Carolina is committed to the free expression of ideas across our community—academic freedom and a vigorous public discourse. Our faculty and academic programs are free to select texts for their courses and our students are encouraged to raise questions, challenge convention and develop their own ideas. This course, like many others, encourages critical thinking and we are pleased to see it has inspired a lively conversation, much like President Reagan did when he spoke to a crowd of 9,000 on our Horseshoe after being presented with an honorary doctor of laws degree Sept. 21, 1983."

<<But Chapman is hoping the University will send more than just a statement.>>

<<"I am glad the University has said something about it, but I don't think what they said was really good enough," said Chapman.>>

What does she want? I she hoping they'll burn the book?
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2014 11:58:11 AM

WOW - THE TRUTH.
(But then Nancy ran the second term and it all evened out in the end)
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