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sgm4law

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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 12:55:10 PM

But I'll keep trying.

The National Republican Congressional Committee is using the tactic of designing misleading websites against Democratic candidates.

I guess they believe all the "low information voters" are Democrats. Or they are just leaving the "low information voters" that are Republican up to Fox.

Here's a nice article about their efforts.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 3:21:19 PM

When a Republican-dominated State takes away Sunday early-voting, after they learned that black churches were bussing people to the polls following church services, that is just another battle in the War On Voting.

Not to mention the obvious racism!
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 2:20:22 PM

The Texas Front

Also called "Battleground Texas", this "community organizer" group violated election laws by harvesting voter info including phone numbers as they "registered" voters.

Busted by James O'Keefe.

Go ahead, throw bricks. Just make sure you're throwing them at the correct target.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 4:49:49 PM

"worryfree, how many times do we have to tell you that the only ones we want to "disenfranchise" are dead people and non-citizens".

Repeating a lie more often doesn't make it any less a lie.

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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 3:18:50 PM

"You want to know where I stand on voter suppression? For the record, here it is:

Voter suppression is a crock.

Unless you can show me somebody locked in a basement for two or three weeks, there are no suppressed voters in Florida.

How many days does a citizen need to find the polls or get an absentee ballot? Add another week, another month. Open more sites. It matters not a dickey bird. You can create a polling place in everybody's front yard if you want and you still won't move the hand on the turnout clock a single tick.

Citizens who want to vote, do. They have the impetus. They want to have a say in the democratic process. They find the time and the means to inform themselves, get to the polls and exercise their right as Americans.

For heaven's sake, we used to have one voting day in this country -- and if I had my way, we would return to Election Day -- make it a day off, a day of national reverence if you will, triple the number of polling places, expand the hours so sites are open 20 hours and devote the whole of the day to getting ourselves and the elderly and infirm who need our help to the polls.

Why don't we just do that?

Doesn't the fact that early voting is such a contentious issue in America today tell us how poisoned our politics has become? The idea that we require a season of voting days to convenience marginally interested or downright lazy people to vote just because one party distrusts the other is pure, unadulterated rubbish.

Expensive rubbish at that. In fact, the state Division of Elections tells me the cost of elections, not just to taxpayers but to campaigns, is so out of control in Florida no one knows for sure what the real cost is. (The DOE didn't say "out of control," I did. It said "all over the place.") Looking at other states, the cost to taxpayers is apparently $24 million in New Jersey for one statewide election; more than $100 million in Texas, where early voting began in 1991; but a bargain $2.6 million in Maryland.

It's an insult to the intelligence of Americans, whether they're minorities in Miami or students on a university campus, to tell them they're being duped, that somebody is trying to take their voting rights away because they can't have another few days to vote or another polling station within eyesight. Does anybody actually think students at the University of Florida last week couldn't see through Charlie Crist's self-serving spin?"link to source
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 9:48:25 AM

worryfree, how many times do we have to tell you that the only ones we want to "disenfranchise" are dead people and non-citizens".

Why do you think it is important to show an ID for some rights but not for others?

Is it because you want elections to go your own way no matter the cost? Even if it meant people not eligible to vote get to vote?

Most people would call that cheating.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 12:47:06 AM

As I said it is a complete waste of time to try and point out to Republicans how they and their party are trying to disenfranchise people who don't vote for their candidates. By golly it seems to be working for them so much better than their bozo candidates and loser of a platform.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 11:52:52 PM

E-Jeepin: <<<"Seems like a valid complaint -- however, pieces are missing.

1. Where is the direct tie to "their efforts" being Republican Congressional Committee perpetrating this? Or maybe a rogue campaign worker in Cincinnati?

2. Can we prosecute the backer of "Americans for a Conservative Direction" for misleading the public -- because no conservatives could be found inside it?

"The war on voting is against people who vote for Democrats."

The war on (fill in the blank) is a Democrat tactic, usually imaginary unicorn stuff. They never seem to care about real cases like troop ballots that don't ever seem to make it back to the States in time, and are voided by the thousands. Shall we talk about the IRS now?">>>

--A most excellent post!
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 3:27:27 PM

The nice thing about dead voters is that they never complain that someone else voted in their name.

Maybe they could use a happy medium?
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 3:04:48 PM

Bell: "Next you will be trying to convince me that Democrats are too stupid to obtain a free government issued ID."


It's the illegal immigrants and the dead people that would have a problem getting their ID. The illegal immigrants by and large can't read the form, and the dead people are notorious procrastinators and will just never get around to it....


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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 11:20:23 AM

It's amazing that requiring an ID to vote is considered to be a War on Democrats. Next you will be trying to convince me that Democrats are too stupid to obtain a free government issued ID. I'm not buying it.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 6:36:59 AM

worryfree, "The war on voting is against people who vote for Democrats."

Only the ones that are dead or not citizens (and felons that have had their voting right taken away).

Democrats, on the other hand, want all these people to vote.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 12:41:01 AM

Waste of time to tell a Republican what they are doing to suppress votes-they already know.
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2014 12:06:02 AM

Seems like a valid complaint -- however, pieces are missing.

1. Where is the direct tie to "their efforts" being Republican Congressional Committee perpetrating this? Or maybe a rogue campaign worker in Cincinnati?

2. Can we prosecute the backer of "Americans for a Conservative Direction" for misleading the public -- because no conservatives could be found inside it?

"The war on voting is against people who vote for Democrats."

The war on (fill in the blank) is a Democrat tactic, usually imaginary unicorn stuff. They never seem to care about real cases like troop ballots that don't ever seem to make it back to the States in time, and are voided by the thousands. Shall we talk about the IRS now?

[Edited by: e_jeepin at 2/19/2014 12:15:21 AM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 11:53:54 PM

The war on voting is against people who vote for Democrats.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 9:55:40 PM

<<sgm, I applaud how you showed how both sides are using despicable means to try to sway the vote. It comes down to the same thing we have all said before on this board, just because it is legal does it make it right?>>

Yes. And thanks for noticing.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 7:09:34 PM

sgm, I applaud how you showed how both sides are using despicable means to try to sway the vote. It comes down to the same thing we have all said before on this board, just because it is legal does it make it right?
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 6:17:19 PM

On the brighter side, folks may now register online in Connecticut effective today.

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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 5:55:02 PM

The only "war on voting" is against non citizens, felons and dead people.

Who thinks these people should be allowed to vote?
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 5:36:53 PM

Are you including trying to get ineligible people to vote in the War on Voting, sgm4law? You know, like the Democrat running for office in Maryland who got busted for voting multiple times in the same election...
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 5:32:55 PM

What Maher is trying to do is not much different from what Limbaugh tried to do in 2008. If you recall, Limbaugh encouraged his listeners to vote for Hillary to throw the Democratic primaries into turmoil.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 1:34:34 PM

kg: "With the majority of the masses comprised of the ignorant and freeloaders and conned into voting on the promise of a free ride, you end up with exactly what we have. "


Obama is living proof that if there is a war on voting, those in charge of the war are doing a pretty sh***y job.


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KansasGunman
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 1:31:20 PM

With the majority of the masses comprised of the ignorant and freeloaders and conned into voting on the promise of a free ride, you end up with exactly what we have.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 1:09:13 PM

And an approach that will backfire on multiple levels:
Bill Maher, stirring up trouble.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 1:09:11 PM

I looked at the three examples presented by the link, there is no mistake about them, while they are disparaging against democrat candidates, it is not covert by any means. Additionally, they have all of the required legal disclaimers at the bottom. It would appear that the only misleading part of the whole thing is the website address itself.

While this is somewhat amusing, and not what I would expect from a republican group (this is more typical of the left), I wish they wouldn't have done this, as I find this tactic to be in poor taste, and something I personally do not condone.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 1:08:09 PM

Oh, and here's an example on the other side:
Dems trying to expand the franchise.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 12:58:11 PM

Well, I guess the NRCC believes that if you can't win the election fair and square, then the next best thing is to deceptively get people to donate to you so you can use that money for other things...

LOL, SMH!!
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