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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 1:16:37 PM



In an amazing turn of events, a leading Democrat now openly advocates ignoring the Constitution and 'fundamentally changing America'.

Democratic Sheila Jackson Lee: ‘Let’s write up these executive orders’

"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a member of the new “Full Employment Caucus” formed on Capitol Hill, described the group’s top priority this way: To get President Obama as many tailored-made executive orders for speedy signing as possible.
She said at a recent press conference reported by The Daily Mail that the caucus members will work hard to “give President Obama a number of executive orders that he can sign with pride and strength. In fact, I think that should be our number one agenda."

It fits with Obama's promise to simple issue executive orders for anything that he can't get Congress, the nation's law writing body, to pass.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing for the country?

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 5:10:58 PM



MTMarty, "The desperation and childish pettiness is stunning."

Yes.

Why is your governor so desperate and petty, MTMarty?

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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 3:15:53 PM

The desperation and childish pettiness is stunning.
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Another Democrat hides behind the Constitution even as he tries to violate it.

This from the wonderful governor of the state of Connecticut.

"Gov. Malloy, a Democrat, was answering a question from a small business owner who said he is at a disadvantage to businesses in adjacent states that have a lower wage structure.

“I think that’s not only a state issue, but we’ve got this thing called the Constitution, so it makes it a little difficult to do some of the things you suggest,” Malloy replied with a smile.

Suddenly a woman’s voice is heard shouting: “Why don’t you read it sometime!”"

ROTFL

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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 11:55:54 AM



The desperation and childish pettiness is stunning.



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/13/2014 11:55:23 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 11:43:29 AM

"I was going to respond point by point to RNorm and MTMarty but decided it was not worth the time. They throw out the "LIE" charge once again even as they are lying."


Um, I'm lying, but actually all I'm doing is simply reposting YOUR OWN words!!!

LOL, Whatever dude.

I knew you couldn't prove your statement:

""Except you libs attack personally. I do not. I attack ideas and philosphy.""

when it is countered by YOUR OWN words:

""Saddens me that someone is apparently SO blinded by hatred that they cannot see past their hate and liberal bias.""

and:

"""But it is obvious it will never happen because of his prejudice.""

so you just run away from YOUR OWN WORDS altogether! Sooooo predictable....


*ROTFL*
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 11:31:52 AM



rumbleseat, thanks for PROVING my point that I don't attack personally whereas liberals do!

;-)

I was going to respond point by point to RNorm and MTMarty but decided it was not worth the time. They throw out the "LIE" charge once again even as they are lying. [OK that one was a statement of fact personally directed at RNorm and MTMarty for what they falsely said since I did not want to call rumble a liar. ROTFL]



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/13/2014 11:31:45 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 11:12:38 AM

"Except you libs attack personally. I do not. I attack ideas and philosphy."


Lets see, so when you say:

"Saddens me that someone is apparently SO blinded by hatred that they cannot see past their hate and liberal bias."

What philosphy are you attacking, and on what proof do you base that attack upon??



And when you say:

"But it is obvious it will never happen because of his prejudice."

Exactly what ideal are you attacking, and on what proof do you make that attack??


I doubt that you can give a real answer, but will come back with the usual twist of other people's words (which is pretty much all you ever do).
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 9:26:51 AM

"Except you libs attack personally. I do not."

You attack whole groups of people, every chance you get!
"Liberals" this, and "Liberals" that, and "Liberals" think this, and "Liberals" do that, and things are true of ALL "Liberals", and on and on, ad nauseum!
And that tiny opening from which you allow thoughts to escape your mind can't see those are attacks, Can't allow that thought to seep in, that they are very personal attacks, on everybody who disagrees with you!
You accuse some of us of putting our fingers in our ears and yelling, you have called some communist, you never stop trying to get people to believe we are always trying to get you banned, you call us the filth on the left, you basically accuse us of having the mods in our pockets, you call some of us sleaze, you accused us of having some kind of cabal that had Maria banned, but the truth is several of us, including myself, lobbied for her return.
None of that is attacking? PFFT!!!!
And then you have the gall to complain somebody you attacked won't agree he would be your great friend if you met in person?

Maybe the language would change if you, once in a while, admitted there was another side to some subjects worth discussion even if you disagreed, instead of resorting to your usual derision and disparagement.
It would be a pleasant surprise, but I won't be holding my breath for it to happen.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 2/13/2014 9:30:03 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 8:24:47 AM

"It really does not 'bother' me at all."

Curious why you keep bringing it up then, almost as much as you bring up the matter of your self-inflicted temporary forced banishment.




"So tell us ALL the 'context'."

Surely you have the entire context saved along with that quote you love to keep using.




For someone who claims to hate personal attacks, you sure engage in them quite regularly. Perhaps you should get back to the topic you began yourself. Surely you recall what it is.




"That DEEPLY saddens me. But it does not bother me personally."

Um... what?


[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 2/13/2014 8:25:55 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 2:15:50 AM

"Well, WHO is 'moaning and whining' then, RNorm?
It sure isn't me because I don't moan and whine."


Oh, you just repeat stuff over and over and over....um, ok.





"I simply held your words up for you and everyone to see.
And you don't like it when people see what you actually say and think."

Another lie.

I posted my statement so that EVERYONE can see exactly what I said and how I think. And just in case someone didn't catch it, let me post it again:

""I don't seek to make friends with folks who think it ok for them (or their friends) to engage in verbal broadsides against my family.

I don't seek to make friends with people who make daily insults of all liberals (of which I am one), or with people who can't respect others with a different opinion.

I don't seek to make friends with people who have continually ridiculed my ministry and my photography.

I don't seek to make friends with people who seem to enjoy ridiculing my actual friends on here.

For you see, I don't do those things to other folks as I don't want them to do that to me or my family. I actually try to live by Matthew 7:12:

"So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.""

Now that that's done, there is nothing left to chance or ambiguity; no room for mischaracterizations, misquotes, misunderstandings or misrepresentations.

Everyone knows where I stand as far as you're concerned and exactly why I take the stand and the tone with you that I do...so you can stop getting it twisted.

Grow up, man-up and get over yourself.
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 1:54:57 AM



RNorm, "AND I'm not the one moaning and whining over and over and over about who won't be my friend"

Well, WHO is 'moaning and whining' then, RNorm?

It sure isn't me because I don't moan and whine.

I simply held your words up for you and everyone to see.

And you don't like it when people see what you actually say and think.

That is true of all liberals.

They HATE it when a mirror is held up to them.

They HATE it when they are held up where people can see what they say and do and believe.

Have a great night, RNorm.

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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 1:36:48 AM

"You libs can dish it out but you can't take it."


Oh, I can dish it out AND I can take it...AND I'm not the one moaning and whining over and over and over about who won't be my friend...and lying on people saying they won't be my friend because they're prejudiced and hateful...

*ROTFL* what a bunch of crap. Grow up and get over yourself.
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RNorm, "Sadly, you continue to be unable to grasp the simple concept that Jesus laid out for his followers (which again, is what I and my friends try to live by):

"So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."""

And that is exactly what I am doing.

I tired a long time ago of liberals attacking all the time.

So I decided to give back a 'tithe' of what you give out. Except you libs attack personally. I do not. I attack ideas and philosphy.

You libs can dish it out but you can't take it.

So I am simply giving back to you 'what you apparently wish that others would do to you!'

ROTFL

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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 12:24:33 AM

"It really does not 'bother' me at all."

But yet, you keep bringing it up over and over and over...





"But it is obvious it will never happen because of his prejudice."

No, it will not happen because of the way YOU treat other people. I have friends of all races and of all political persuasions; both from here and outside of here. You seem to think its ok to insult everyone that has a different political view than you. Its a free country and you can do that, but I don't count people who do such things as a "friend".

Sadly, you continue to be unable to grasp the simple concept that Jesus laid out for his followers (which again, is what I and my friends try to live by):

"So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.""
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""RNorm's reply? "I would NEVER be friends with someone like YOU!!!!"

MTMarty, "That seems to bother you very much,"

Ya know what, MTMarty?

It really does not 'bother' me at all.

Actually not in the least.

What it does do is that it saddens me. SADDENS me deeply!

Saddens me that someone is apparently SO blinded by hatred that they cannot see past their hate and liberal bias.

No wonder we have the problems in this country that we have.

I disagree with his politics very much. And I am always ready to talk about our differences.

But it is NOT personal in any way shape or form.

I honestly believe to the very core of my being that in real life we would be great friends.

But it is obvious it will never happen because of his prejudice.

That DEEPLY saddens me. But it does not bother me personally.

MTMarty, "I know the context from which that quote was taken, and I don't blame Norm for saying it."

So tell us ALL the 'context'. Give us the actual quotes. Don't just make stuff up, MTMarty

Give us the QUOTES and the context.

We will wait.



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/12/2014 10:24:22 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 9:12:04 PM

"RNorm's reply? "I would NEVER be friends with someone like YOU!!!!"

That seems to bother you very much, but I can't imagine why. I know the context from which that quote was taken, and I don't blame Norm for saying it. You really must get over yourself for your own good.

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RNorm, "LOL, but yet you are the one who created it"

No, YOU are the one who "created it". In your own mind.

And it is so nice to see that you are still keeping a whole Word document of everything I have ever said so that you can throw it out whenever you get desperate to use it to prove an 'unrelated point'.

RNorm, "Hmm...you seem to have purposely left out the pertinent parts of what I said."

No, I quoted it exactly and in its entirety from the first time you ever said it to me.

Now you have said essentially the same thing several times since and you have tried to spin it different ways.

But what you actually said hasn't changed, will not change and is what I quoted to you ....

RNorm's reply? "I would NEVER be friends with someone like YOU!!!!"

And if you like your quote, you can keep it. PERIOD!

ROTFL

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rumbleseat, "Saying "he said it, but because of when he said it, it doesn't count" kind of stifles conversation."

Yeah, AFSNCO, you certainly would not want to "stifle" liberals from engaging in their dishonest claims and "conversation"!

ROTFL

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 6:39:58 PM

"That "standard" only exists in your liberal mind!"

LOL, but yet you are the one who created it:

""Lift a finger to help yourselves.

Learn to use "the google machine"!

Quit relying on daddy to bring you everything.

Get up off the couch and do something useful."

or in otherwords, don't ask for facts when there are none from REAL news sites...just lift stories from tabloids and gutter rags, pretend like its real news and hope people don't ask for links..."



"I have told RNorm many times that if we knew each other in real life we would be GREAT friends!

His reply?

"I would NEVER be friends with someone like YOU!!!!""

Hmm...you seem to have purposely left out the pertinent parts of what I said. So here, let me repeat it for you so you can stop intentionally editing out the body of what I've said to you:

"I don't seek to make friends with folks who think it ok for them (or their friends) to engage in verbal broadsides against my family.

I don't seek to make friends with people who make daily insults of all liberals (of which I am one), or with people who can't respect others with a different opinion.

I don't seek to make friends with people who have continually ridiculed my ministry and my photography.

I don't seek to make friends with people who seem to enjoy ridiculing my actual friends on here.

For you see, I don't do those things to other folks as I don't want them to do that to me or my family. I actually try to live by Matthew 7:12:

"So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.""







"If we didn't laugh at bigotry in this world we would have to cry."

Again, my choice of not desiring to be your friend has nothing to do with bigotry and EVERYTHING to do with how you treat those who are already my friends. See my oft repeated reply to you above.

And stop getting it twisted.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 6:02:52 PM

AFS, does it really matter whether it is a previous President, or the next President that is criticized by a sitting President, an ex-President, or the next President? Saying "he said it, but because of when he said it, it doesn't count" kind of stifles conversation.
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"And you know who wrote an Executive Order detailing who had authority to declassify documents, including the Vice President in certain situations?"

Several Presidents, actually:
1 - Executive Order 10290 (September 24, 1951; Harry S. Truman)
"Prescribing Regulations Establishing Minimum Standards for the Classification, Transmission, and Handling, by Department and Agencies of the Executive Branch, of Official Information Which Requires Safeguarding in the Interest of the Security of the United States"
2 - Executive Order 10501 (November 5, 1953; Dwight D. Eisenhower)
"Safeguarding Official Information in the Interests of the Defense of the United States"
3 - Executive Order 11652 (March 8, 1972; Richard Nixon)
"Classification and Declassification of National Security Information and Material"
4 - Executive Order 12065 (June 28, 1978; Jimmy Carter)
"National Security Information"
5 - Executive Order 12356 (April 2, 1982; Ronald Reagan)
"National Security Information"
6 - Executive Order 12958 (April 17, 1995; Bill Clinton)
Executive Order 12958 created new standards for the process of identifying and protecting classified information, and led to an unprecedented effort to declassify millions of pages from the U.S. diplomatic and national security history. In 1995, United States President Bill Clinton signed this Executive Order.
7 - Executive Order 13292 (March 21, 2003; George W. Bush)
EO 12958 was amended and effectively replaced by President George W. Bush on March 25, 2003, in Executive Order 13292.
EO 13292 has itself since revoked and replaced. The current EO in effect for classified information is Executive Order 13526.

And, at some point in the future, another President will replace that one!
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 5:43:24 PM

Rumble, you realize are quoting stuff from when Bush was not the president yet, right? He was either campaigning or still the governor. He did not do it while he was in office....but I do appreciate your attempt.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 5:35:50 PM

"George Bush did not."

Not entirely true of Dubya, and George H also criticized Clinton while Clinton was in office.
How about 1999?
Dubya criticized Clinton for not setting a timetable for exiting Kosovo, but didn't set the same for his war.
George W. Bush, 4/9/99:
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
And on the specific need for a timetable, here’s what Bush said then:
George W. Bush, 6/5/99
“I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”
Then a few years later:
George W. Bush, 6/24/05:
“It doesn’t make any sense to have a timetable. You know, if you give a timetable, you’re — you’re conceding too much to the enemy.”

September 2000, then-Gov. George W. Bush criticized Clinton for proposing to use the strategic oil reserve in response to high prices:
"The Strategic Reserve is an insurance policy meant for a sudden disruption of our energy supply or for war. Strategic Reserve should not be used as an attempt to drive down oil prices right before an election. It should not be used for short-term political gain at the cost of long-term national security."
April 25, 2006, Dubya said he was going to order the Department of Energy to stop filling the reserve in order to get more fuel on the market to reduce rising gasoline prices.

In an appearance at a San Antonio grade school on October 13, 1993, Bush Sr said the humanitarian mission to Somalia that he had launched nearly a year earlier was being "messed up" by the Clinton administration.
"If you're going to put somebody else's son or daughter into harm's way, into battle, you've got to know the answer to three questions," Bush told the students. He said the president has to know what the mission is, "how they are going to do it," and "how they're going to get out of there."
Bush's comments appeared to violate his earlier pledge not to publicly criticize Clinton during his first year in office.
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RNorm, "Sorry, but I'm using the "A1 Blow Smoke" standard for my quotes. Therefore I don't have to show you anything.

That "standard" only exists in your liberal mind!

ROTFL

I have told RNorm many times that if we knew each other in real life we would be GREAT friends!

His reply?

"I would NEVER be friends with someone like YOU!!!!"

ROTFL

If we didn't laugh at bigotry in this world we would have to cry.



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/12/2014 4:45:27 PM EST]
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"You are pretending that Dick Cheney said that. Show us where he ever said what you QUOTE him as saying. And the Daily KOS and other dishonest liberal rags do not count."


Sorry, but I'm using the "A1 Blow Smoke" standard for my quotes. Therefore I don't have to show you anything.
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RNorm, "I have the authority to declassify at will..."

You are pretending that Dick Cheney said that. Show us where he ever said what you QUOTE him as saying. And the Daily KOS and other dishonest liberal rags do not count.

And you know who wrote an Executive Order detailing who had authority to declassify documents, including the Vice President in certain situations?

Bill Clinton!

Bill Clinton who issued

"EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958

CLASSIFIED NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION"

Sorry but your attempts to smear and mislead fail miserably once again when the facts are known.

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 11:43:49 AM

"If the president does it, its legal..."

"I'm the decider..."

"I have the authority to declassify at will..."


Same song, different day...

Bleh.
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sgm, just for you ...

""That's the good thing as a president, I can do whatever I want," Obama quipped while visiting Monticello, Thomas Jefferson's home in Charlottesville, Va., with French President Francois Hollande.

If he meant it as a joke, it's a bad one, for it accurately describes the psyche of a president who governs by executive order and regulation.

It takes a unique form of chutzpah to say such a thing to the president of the nation that gave us the Statue of Liberty at the home of the man who said government is best which governs least and who was the principal author of a Declaration of Independence that proclaimed our unalienable rights.

And, Jefferson said, those unalienable rights came not from government, but from our Creator, a phrase repeatedly unable to fall from the presidential tongue even when on his teleprompter."

No, Mr. President, You Can't Do Anything You Want



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/12/2014 11:33:46 AM EST]
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"George Bush did not."


The statement was about the administration in office while you're running to win that office.

And yes, Bush DID criticize Clinton's administration as well as Gore while he was running.
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sgm, "Sounds like sarcasm to me."

Since he said it right after he did something that no one at Monticello is allowed to do, sounds like power trip gloating to me.

SMH

The minions are always ready to defend THE ONE.

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"All Presidential candidates criticize the previous administration if it is the other party. They usually end up doing the same thing, or a version of it."

George Bush did not. And he even remained quiet after he left office unlike other past Democrat presidents...ahem, Clinton, Carter...You have not heard any political statements from either Bush since they left office. As a matter-of-fact the last Bush said that he understands that being the president is a tough job once when asked a question critical of Obama.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 8:05:17 AM

<"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want.">

Sounds like sarcasm to me.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 8:03:28 AM

All Presidential candidates criticize the previous administration if it is the other party. They usually end up doing the same thing, or a version of it.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 3:36:18 AM

It is sad that President Barack Obama specifically criticized his predecessors for issuing numerous executive orders that "should have gone to Congress to debate and vote on." Guess now that the shoe is on the other foot, Barry has changed his mind, and apparently, the mind of U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson, too. What a hypocrite!
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 2:58:35 AM

"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want."

Gee, just like "the Decider"?
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RNorm, "Neither is the topic title; but what does that matter when it gives one the springboard to jump into the usual anti-Obama (and anti-liberal) slam???"

Sorry that telling the truth about what they are doing upsets you so much.

When you shine the bright light of day on what they are doing, some of them scurry back under the nearest rock.

Others of them become angry!

;-)

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 9:34:00 PM

"That's not what it says in the article."


Neither is the topic title; but what does that matter when it gives one the springboard to jump into the usual anti-Obama (and anti-liberal) slam???

*yawn*
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sgm, "I think the problem is that I get four, when I put 2 and 2 together, and you get numbers that vary depending on who is involved in the equation."

ROTFL

Oh the desperation for a rational argument or reply.

;-)
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 8:03:54 PM

"Can you hold more than one thought in your mind at one time?"

Yes. Maybe that's what's so confusing for you.

"The information IS out there even if some people can't put 2 and 2 together!"

I think the problem is that I get four, when I put 2 and 2 together, and you get numbers that vary depending on who is involved in the equation.

[Edited by: sgm4law at 2/10/2014 8:03:33 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 7:58:38 PM



sgm, "That's not what it says in the article."

Oh PUH-LEASE!!!

ROTFL

Can you hold more than one thought in your mind at one time?

Or do you even read more than one source of information.

Let me try to make this simple for you.

Obama said that if Congress did not pass what HE wanted, he would just go around them and issue Executive Orders.

The brilliant and CARING Sheila Jackson Lee promised that she was going to write up a number of Executive Orders to send to Obama for him to sign 'with pride and strength' ... and "draft them, of course"! ROTFL

BINGO!

The information IS out there even if some people can't put 2 and 2 together!

SMH

No wonder we are in the trouble we are in!

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 7:46:06 PM

<<Yes, the promise is that if Congress will not pass a law, Obama and his beautiful comrade Sheila Jackson Lee will just turn out Executive Orders on an assembly line to go AROUND Congress! Thereby usurping Congressional authority and power.>>

That's not what it says in the article.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 7:04:57 PM



Obama: 'That's the Good Thing as a President, I Can Do Whatever I Want'

"President Obama "quipped" today during a visit to Monticello with the French president, "That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want."

Via the pool report:

Monticello

At 4:45 POTUS and president Hollande walked out from a portico and strolled in Front of your pool with Leslie Bowman, president of the Monticello Foundation. Looking at a terrace she said that Jefferson loved to admire the landscape from there. POTUS said that he'd like to take a look and seemed delighted to "break the protocol".

"That's the good thing as a President, I can do whatever I want" he quipped, walking to the terrace with his guest and Ms. Bowman. Pool now in the mansion as the leaders will come and visit Jefferson's study."

Unfortunately, I think it exposes a deeply held belief of Obama.

At what point do we all say "It is time to yank his chain BIG TIME!"

And if yanking his chain does not get his attention, it is time for serious consideration of impeachment.

He may truly believe that he is a dictator!

But that does not make him one.

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 6:26:37 PM



wbacon, "This is a surprise?"

Not a surprise at all with the Community Organizer and Dictator!

THAT is why it is long overdue for Obama to be SMACKED DOWN BIG TIME!

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 6:20:39 PM

This is a surprise?
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 6:16:39 PM


Today Obama once again doubles down on his illegal activity.

He unilaterally rewrites his own ObamaCare bill because he knows that it will destroy small businesses.

So he illegally delays the ObamaCare mandate for small businesses. CONVENIENTLY until AFTER the election.

And he can't have that happen BEFORE the 2014 elections because it will GUARANTEE that Democrats lose the Senate.

So Obama once again trashes the Constitution and rules like a DICTATOR in the White House!

It is time for Congress and the Courts and the Press and the American people to smack him down good!

It is time to either enforce ALL of ObamaCare NOW or get RID OF IT COMPLETELY!



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/10/2014 6:17:05 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 5:10:55 PM

"When the President does it, that means it is not illegal."

ROTFL
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 3:47:23 PM

"Not necessarily, according to the White House. A law is not binding when a president issues a separate statement saying he reserves the right to revise, interpret or disregard it on national security and constitutional grounds."


Now THAT sounds more like the "dictator" label that A1 and others repeatedly try to pin on Obama, but hey, since its Bush, lets give him a free pass a lie and say this is what Obama is doing (when he's not), but we can say he is and make up stuff that we have no proof for and then use that statement as "proof" of what Obama is doing....

Oops! that was Bush reinterpreting the law...my bad.

*ROTFL*
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 3:40:17 PM



sgm4law, "Is there something in her proposal that says she is writing EOs that are outside the limits of what the Executive has the authority to do? Or, as usual, are you just assuming that is the case?"

Yes, the promise is that if Congress will not pass a law, Obama and his beautiful comrade Sheila Jackson Lee will just turn out Executive Orders on an assembly line to go AROUND Congress! Thereby usurping Congressional authority and power.

Probably not violating the "letter" of the Constitution.

But definitely cynically and dishonestly subverting and nullifying the intent of the Constitution!

But that seems to be what progressive liberal Democrats are ALL about!



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 2/10/2014 3:40:24 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 8:49:26 AM

<<And the never to be accused of being too bright Sheila Jackson Lee has promised that THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY is to generate as many Executive Orders as possible and send them to Obama for signature.>>

Is there something in her proposal that says she is writing EOs that are outside the limits of what the Executive has the authority to do? Or, as usual, are you just assuming that is the case?
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2014 11:52:37 PM

I guess this doesn't count either.
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"Power of the Pen
The president uses signing statements to decree which laws apply to him.
by James Bovard

For generations, Republican politicians have spoken reverently of the rule of law. But since 2001, this hoary doctrine has been redefined to mean little more than the enforcement of the secret thoughts of the commander in chief.
George W. Bush has added more than 750 “signing statements” to new laws since he took office. Earlier presidents occasionally appended such comments to new statutes, but Bush is the first to use signing statements routinely to nullify key provisions of new laws. He perennially announces that he will not be bound by limits on his power and that he will scorn obligations to disclose how federal power is being used."
Bush ignores congress and the constitution
"Apparently, the government is not obliged to obey any law that Bush does not personally approve of. And how can we know which laws Bush approves of? It’s a secret. Bush’s personal thoughts thus become the ultimate law of the land—and no one can know if the government is violating the “law” because Bush has not publicly declared what the law is."
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"A bill becomes the rule of the land when Congress passes it and the president signs it into law, right?
Not necessarily, according to the White House. A law is not binding when a president issues a separate statement saying he reserves the right to revise, interpret or disregard it on national security and constitutional grounds."
Bush Ignores Laws He Inks, Vexing Congress
"Other presidents have used signing statements for administrative reasons, such as instructing an agency how to put a certain law into effect. They usually are inserted quietly into the federal record."



[Edited by: rumbleseat at 2/9/2014 11:53:51 PM EST]
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