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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 1:19:22 PM

Shades of 1970 - here we go again.
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>>>Better start investing in some warm clothes because German scientists are predicting that the Earth will cool over the next century.

German scientists found that two naturally occurring cycles will combine to lower global temperatures during the 21st century, eventually dropping to levels corresponding with the “little ice age” of 1870.

“Due to the de Vries cycle, the global temperature will drop until 2100 to a value corresponding to the ‘little ice age’ of 1870,” write German scientists Horst-Joachim Luedecke and Carl-Otto Weiss of the European Institute for Climate and Energy.

Researchers used historical temperature data and data from cave stalagmites to show a 200-year solar cycle, called the de Vries cycle.<<<

So we need to drill for more energy to keep us warm. Will anyone ever admit that trying to predict global weather patterns is futile.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:48:11 PM

Why NASA GISS cannot be trusted. One more reason.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/30/2014 10:48:46 PM EST]
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 3:11:43 PM

Here's an interesting article about a new technology: Harnessing CO2 into Renewable Energy.

It looks like we may be needing more Co2 to power our various devices in the near future. It's not only good for plants...
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 8:11:39 AM

Watch what you say here or RFK, JR will have you sent to the gulag.

[Edited by: WES03 at 9/29/2014 8:12:01 AM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 3:14:26 PM

Yes, the scam is getting very long in the tooth now and the public has pretty much dropped it. The only people who haven't are the liberals and their politicians who can still just taste the amount of tax money and power they would control if only they can hoodwink the rest of us while there is still time left.

The clock is ticking down in this and at the climate conference/summit (or whatever it's called) in 2015 I think you will see an air of desperation that makes the previous conferences look tame buy comparison. I'm sure the left at that conference will call anyone who disagrees with AGW racists, bigots, misogynists, animal haters, homophobes, pedophiles, and anything else they can think of. The whole thing will have an air of hysteria about it, as they know this may be their last chance. Watch and see if I'm right.


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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 1:09:12 PM



Once again the Members of the Church of Our Lady of Global Warming have proved right!

From September 10 to 20, 2014, there have been 1695 record temperatures set.

1695!!

The earth is burning up!

<ala Emily Litella>

'Miss Litella, those were LOW temperature records. Not high temperature records. LOW temperature RECORDS!'

"Oh. That's different. NEVER MIND!!!!!"

ROTFL

NOAA: 1695 Low Max Records Broken or Tied From Sept 11 to Sept 20. One record broken by 25F

"Wow. One record was broken by 25F!!!! 1695 Low Max Records Broken or Tied From Sept 11 to Sept 20 according to the NOAA."



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 9/28/2014 1:10:04 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 9:37:12 PM

oilpan4 - I hear tell yall better lay in a bigger woodpile this fall and do some other stuff- cause its supposed to be as bad or worse than last winter.

Heck we even had a few palm trees die of the cold out here. Now thats too bloomin cold for this transplanted dammyankee. Us new desert rats dont deserve none of that cold white alkali lookin stuff fallin outa the sky on us here.

Kidding aside ---- all the indications I have seen so far say its gonna be a cold winter for much of the world this time around.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 8:36:47 PM

Fly, I was playing along. I knew zactly what you were saying.

BTW, Krakatoa is alive agin, as well as Mt. Etna - both just under "active" status (although occasionally showing off fireworks and occasional small lava flows).

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/27/2014 8:40:56 PM EST]
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 8:15:17 PM

As if this winter wasn't going to suck bad enough.

Good thing we thought ahead and caused all that global warming.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 7:49:05 PM

Mini --- I was being facetious and sarcastic. However there is a grain of truth to my silly statements.

We have seen large volcanic events have big effects on worldwide weather in the past. I mean the recent past where we actually have written records of it. Thinking of Krakatoa more than anything else.
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 6:31:03 PM

Antarctic sea ice still in the stratosphere, above 20 million km2 again
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 6:19:59 PM

flyboy, you should know that emissions from volcanoes are chock-full of greenhouse gases. Don't you think the earth is going to have a fevah? After all, there are a bunch of active volcanoes around the world right now.

Okay, okay, volcanoes tend to cool the planet rather than warm it up. Although I'm not predicting a nuclear winter - I'm thinking along the lines of the Farmer's Almanac and meteorologists like Joe Bastardi - it's going to be a long, cold winter. The 4% of CO2 attributable to humans will again take a back seat to natural processes.

But I'm with climate scientist Emma Thompson - we cannot go on pretending nothing is happening. And it is our fault. :-)

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/27/2014 6:23:06 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 5:00:29 PM

Mini does this mean we are in for the "nuclear winter".

You know like the year with no summer??????

Everybody better buy a dust mask or two......
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 4:37:24 PM

Even bigger, the powerful eruption of Russian Shiveluch volcano at 00:41 UTC on September 24, 2014.

Ash plume rose up to 11 km (38 000 feet) altitude. The photo looks almost like a nuclear bomb went off.
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 4:32:05 PM

Mount Ontake erupted today
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 4:19:14 PM

Well Mini - the only answer is for the gubbiment to pass a law that those who harbor volcanoes must put scrubbers on them just like the coal power plants do. That seems pretty obvious doesnt it.
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2014 3:40:46 PM

High sulphur pollution in northern France – Story and Video

"More than four times the pollution caused by humans in all of Europe! Including transport, energy and home heating"

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/27/2014 3:45:00 PM EST]
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ldheinz
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 9:55:40 PM

OMG! So now Co2 is causing volcanoes on the ocean floor? What should we do? I know - let's outlaw oceans! Or maybe floors? ;-D
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 9:46:10 PM



re:Fissure Volcano

CALL THE EPA!

I don't care if she IS our Mother.

There is NO excuse for Mother Earth to pollute our pristine planet with all that carbon and sulfuric acid and other poisonous gases that are causing runaway global warming.

CALL THE EPA and throw Mother Earth in prison.

Or at least let her buy carbon credits from Algore.

SMH

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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 8:38:09 PM

A look back at "Hide the Decline"
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 7:32:15 PM

What a fissure volcano looks like from a helicopter (Bardarbunga Volcano, Iceland)

The same phenomenon above goes on underneath the seas 24/7, all over the world.

On a map of ocean floor topography, these fissures resemble the stitching on a baseball. The Mid-Atlantic Ridge stretches over 15,000 miles south from Iceland, circles around the southern tip of Africa, and then turns north into the Indian Ocean.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/26/2014 7:35:56 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 12:43:03 AM

Max Planck Institute: Arctic Sea Ice: “I Wouldn’t Put Money On Further Decrease Of Ice Cover”!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 9:12:19 PM

Very good mini! And very true!!

There is no aspect of another person's life that a liberal wouldn't choose to control if they could.



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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 4:50:37 PM

Flyboy, just for yew.
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 4:46:33 PM

"The fact that the developed world went into hysterics over changes in global mean temperature anomaly of a few tenths of a degree will astound future generations.

"Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 21st century's developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age."

- Dr. Richard Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a member of the GWPF’s Academic Advisory Council

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/25/2014 4:47:08 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 4:32:44 PM

Liberal???? or is it more like a totolitarian dictator. Reminds me of some folks here on GB who dislke the evil 1%ers so much....
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>>>The folks at the Climate Depot have uncovered video where Robert F. Kennedy Junior said he wants to imprison his political opponents, put energy CEOs and the Koch brothers in prison for “treason” and “reckless endangerment.”

As typical of most liberals, silencing the opposition – whether by imprisoning them or shouting them down – is all too common.
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This isn’t the first time the vocally-challenged activist has called for sending political opponents to prison. In 2007, he said climate skeptics were “traitors” and should be treated as such and in 2009, he said coal company CEOs should be “in jail for all of eternity.”<<<

He can be eternally grateful that the cons don't think like this perverted idiot does.
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 4:10:07 PM

"The report found that doubling carbon dioxide concentrations would only cause 1.64 degrees Celsius of warming in the long term."

Considering the human contribution to atmospheric CO2 is around 4% of the total, we'd have to increase our carbon output by 2500% to cause warming of 3 degrees F. We better get busy or we'll never be able to stave off the coming ice age.
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 2:01:21 PM

"Another Study Finds That Climate Models Are ‘Over-Sensitive’ To CO2 Increases"

IOW, the new research - which used the UN IPCC's own data from AR5 - finds Earth is 'less sensitive' to CO2 than previously thought.

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 1:32:44 PM

Another Study Finds That Climate Models Are ‘Over-Sensitive’ To CO2 Increases
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>>>Scientists have been lowering their estimates of how much warming would occur if carbon dioxide levels were increased as empirical estimates improved and the global warming pause continued.

A new report published in the journal Climate Dynamics corroborates previous studies showing that the climate will warm less from carbon dioxide emissions than claimed by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The report found that doubling carbon dioxide concentrations would only cause 1.64 degrees Celsius of warming in the long term.

“Our results, which use data from this year’s IPCC fifth assessment report, are in line with those of several recent studies based on observed centennial warming and strongly suggest complex global climate models used for warming projections are oversensitive to carbon dioxide concentrations,” said the report’s co-author, Nic Lewis, an independent climate scientist.

Lewis co-authored a report with science writer Marcel Crok earlier this year that found many climate models running hot and overestimating climate sensitivity by 40 to 50 percent. The paper also criticized the IPCC for trying to hide the climate’s weaker response to carbon dioxide in its 2013 report by not giving a central climate sensitivity estimate.<<<

So just one more indication of the "warmers" are out to lunch.....
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 11:20:30 AM

Understanding NASA Press Releases

NASA announced a day or two ago that Arctic sea ice was “the sixth lowest on record” [and was promptly poll-parroted in the news and circulated around the blogosphere, including this thread].

What they [must've] meant by this is that Arctic sea ice is second highest of the past decade, and the minimum was up 60% from two years ago.

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More people are beginning to catch on.

Disillusionment is a good thing.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/25/2014 11:26:46 AM EST]
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AnotherOne
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"Carbon credits"

Is that the biggest, laughable liberal scam to come down the pike in many a decade?

And yet the liberals eat it up like it is something good and rational.

I guess it is more evidence that liberalism really IS a mental disorder.

SMH

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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 7:12:07 AM

Yabbut he paid his carbon credits to live whatever lifestyle he wants - he's donated millions to protect endangered animals, and promoted a new enviro-documentary about the oceans back in August.
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The dishonesty and duplicity of Obama and the wacko liberal lefties is stunning.

Obama's trip to New York for one day of talking about the global warming "crisis" used MORE carbon and energy than that used by 22 people - FOR A WHOLE YEAR!

Meanwhile, that brilliant 'scientist' Leonardo DiCaprio flew a private jet plane load of friends to Sydney Australia for a New Year's eve celebration and then immediately flew back to Las Vegas in time to celebrate New Year's Eve there as well.

But he has the cojones to lecture us on our use of energy in our homes.

ARROGANT liberals.

Obama Emits Enough CO2 For 22 People On Way To UN Climate Summit

"President Obama is racking up a massive carbon dioxide tab traveling to a United Nations climate summit being held in New York City this week.

All told, the president’s entourage could emit nearly 22 times more carbon dioxide in his trip to New York than the average American emits in an entire year, according to calculations by the free-market American Energy Alliance (AEA)."

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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 12:40:40 AM

Emma Thompson says we cannot go on pretending nothing is happening.
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 12:38:08 AM

A1:"I wonder if Obama and Biden and Kerry have seen it as they tout runaway global warming at the UN!"

I'm sure he's been briefed. After all, he's the king of the world. If a Democrat from Louisville, KY - who used to pass out Al Gore's DVDs - can figure it out, surely the TOTUS, with all his advisers, is privy to the same information.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/25/2014 12:38:30 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 12:28:36 AM

flyboyUT: "Mini - this one is good also - it does tend to show the pacifist and reasoned folks involved - sarcasm machine on high folks....."

Yes. Setting people's homes on fire, bombing and committing crimes are acts of pacifist, reasoned people.


[Edited by: ministorage at 9/25/2014 12:28:57 AM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 10:55:07 PM

AO: "Thank you, flyboy, for that excellent video."


It's really sad that those people can vote, and it's even sadder still that they have the ability to procreate.



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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 10:36:07 PM

Read a couple of those wind stories, interesting how without any data to back it up, the AGW scientists almost immediately conjectured man must be responsible for the change in winds that are causing the warning.
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 7:53:03 PM



Liberals must be ever so proud of their fellow progressive liberals that were in the streets of New York on Sunday.

Thank you, flyboy, for that excellent video.

The stunning intellectuality of the progressive liberals in the march on Sunday convinced me that global warming is REAL and that they really ARE smarter than the rest of us!

ROTFL

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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 6:15:17 PM

Mini - this one is good also - it does tend to show the pacifist and reasoned folks involved - sarcasm machine on high folks.....
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 5:03:32 PM

New Climate March Video Released
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 4:52:50 PM

At the Climate March, actress Emma Thompson said, “We can’t go on pretending nothing’s happening”.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/24/2014 4:59:59 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 11:25:48 AM

"The wacko libs are out in the streets and they are getting desperate"

Agreed.

"yet the lack of surface warming in 17 years has forced those same scientists to now invoke natural climate change to supposedly cancel out the expected human-caused warming!
C’mon guys. You can’t have it both ways!""

Yes stupid alarmist believers have convinced them selves more CO2 will just continue to heat up the world.
They forget CO2 isn't the only thing at work here. They forget about simple forces like newtons law of cooling.
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 10:53:26 AM

flyboyUT - "March to save the earth - but trash it instead....."

That story reminded me of an interesting experience that I had a few years back. I took my daughter to Cape Canaveral to watch a shuttle launch, it was the John Glenn launch, and the causeway was lined up, bumper to bumper, by busses, which brought thousands and thousands of spectators, as far as the eye could see. Some wild dolphins came by to look at the crowds. Everyone was very well behaved, and when the launch was over, everyone got back on their bus and left. And as we drove away, I looked out the window, and there wasn't a single piece of trash anywhere but by the countless garbage cans. The grass was completely spotless, as was the road. And as we drove down the road, that was true everywhere. I'm not exaggerating, the grass was completely spotless. The garbage cans were all overflowing, but the trash was always neatly piled around them, not more than a foot away. I thought about it a bit, and then I realized why. I guess the crowds had just been pre-selected as people who REALLY care about the future of the Earth.
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 9:56:39 AM

I75, I guess I misunderstood what you meant.
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 9:14:10 AM

I75, perhaps you meant penguins. Polar bears would have to walk south to get to South America. ;-)

Hemond, I saw that as a fun exercise to extrapolate in the same manner as the global warm-earthers do - a bit of their own medicine. Perhaps the 600-mile gap between Tierra Del Fuego and the Trinity Peninsula will be a bit smaller, but I doubt it will be closed by 2050. The Drake passage has fast currents and winds.

What we will want to look at over the next 35 years is the Atlantic Multi-Decadal Oscillation, the next two solar cycles beyond this one, as well as the wild card - volcanism. Unless there something to bring about abrupt change to past known cycles, 2050 will likely have global temperatures as cold as the 1970s. The catastrophic AGW hypothesis will be long-dead before then (as well as most of us). ;-D

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/24/2014 9:23:44 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 8:14:20 AM

Hemond, if that happens the polar bears can walk north in the shade!
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"Texas and Southwest permanent drought update"

I have an update for you from the TX NM area:
Its like I have moved back to new England.

If the believers are right you are not going to have more frequent and powerful hurricanes or typhoons AND drought.

Tropical storms are drought killers and that's what we are getting. Storms are churning up the west coast of mexico and dumping tons of rain on the normally dry south west.

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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 12:48:36 AM


With this year's record ice extent at the South Pole, in how many years will an ice bridge form linking South America to Antarctica?

[Edited by: Hemond at 9/24/2014 12:50:16 AM EST]
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The wacko libs are out in the streets and they are getting desperate - which means they are getting DANGEROUS!The Crumbling Climate-Change Consensus Extremists’ rhetoric heats up as their case falls apart.

"The United Nations Climate Summit will begin in New York this Tuesday, but environmental activists didn’t wait. All day Sunday, they filled the streets of Manhattan for a march that featured Al Gore, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio, and various Hollywood actors.

But they certainly didn’t act like a movement that was winning. There was a tone of fatalism in the comments of many with whom I spoke; they despair that the kind of radical change they advocate probably won’t result from the normal democratic process. It’s no surprise then that the rhetoric of climate-change activists has become increasingly hysterical. Naomi Klein, author of a new book on the “crisis,” This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate, said, “I have seen the future, and it looks like New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.” In her new book she demands that North America and Europe pay reparations to poorer countries to compensate for the climate change they cause. She calls her plan a “Marshall Plan for the Earth” and acknowledges that it would cost “hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars.” But she has an easy solution on how to pay for it: “Need more money? Print some!” What’s a little hyperinflation compared to “saving the planet”?"

Oooops I75, you beat me by a couple minutes.

;-)


[Edited by: AnotherOne at 9/24/2014 12:31:20 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 12:27:15 AM

Amongst the protesters and politicians and pundits who infested New York City recently, some rational thinkers are still on the subject.

Read John Fund: The Crumbling Climate-Change Consensus

"One reason the rhetoric has become so overheated is that the climate-change activists increasingly lack a scientific basis for their most exaggerated claims. As physicist Gordon Fulks of the Cascade Policy Institute puts it: “CO2 is said to be responsible for global warming that is not occurring, for accelerated sea-level rise that is not occurring, for net glacial and sea-ice melt that is not occurring..."

"Steven Koonin, the undersecretary for science in the Energy Department during President Obama’s first term, wrote a pathbreaking piece in Saturday’s Wall Street Journal in which he concluded:
  "We often hear that there is a “scientific consensus” about climate change. But as far as the computer models go, there isn’t a useful consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human influence....."

"Roy Spencer: For many years we had been hearing from the “scientific consensus” side that natural climate change is nowhere near as strong as human-caused warming . . . yet the lack of surface warming in 17 years has forced those same scientists to now invoke natural climate change to supposedly cancel out the expected human-caused warming!
C’mon guys. You can’t have it both ways!"

Well said, gentlemen!
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