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teacher_tim

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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 11:03:31 AM

FOX sez:"VIRGINIA SQUEAKER SENDS SHIVERS THROUGH DEMS - Vulnerable Democrats must have watched in dismay as Democrat Terry McAuliffe barely clung to victory on Tuesday. Having spent three times more money than his rival and with the backing of his popular patrons, Bill and Hillary Clinton, McAulliffe was breezing to victory just three weeks ago. But his once-stout lead in the polls over Republican Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli nearly vanished as voter outrage over the crash landing of ObamaCare nearly wrecked the race. A double-digit lead turned into a three-point scrape. Exit polls showed intense opposition to ObamaCare that helped Cuccinelli, who was written off by the national GOP and who had to lug along the scandal-plagued administration of Republican incumbent Gov. Bob McDonnell. "

AP on Yahoo! sez: "WASHINGTON (AP) — Electability and pragmatism won. Ideology and rigidity lost.

In Democratic-leaning New Jersey, voters gave Republican Chris Christie a second term and rewarded him for his bipartisan, get-it-done, inclusive pitch. In swing state Virginia, voters narrowly rejected Republican Ken Cuccinelli's uncompromising, conservative approach.

If there's a lesson from Tuesday's off-year elections, it might be that during a time of deep divisions within the Republican Party, staunchly conservative GOP candidates who press ideological positions have difficulty winning general elections in competitive states. Candidates with mainstream appeal like Christie in New Jersey and Democrat Terry McAuliffe in Virginia can overcome obstacles that might trip up others.

Christie, in a victory speech aimed at national Republicans, said Americans "angry with their dysfunctional government in Washington" could look to his state as a model for getting things done.

"I know that if we can do this in Trenton, New Jersey, maybe the folks in Washington, D.C., should tune in their TVs right now," Christie said. "See how it's done."

Christie trounced his Democratic opponent, state Sen. Barbara Buono, offering a template for Republicans who want to win and attract a broad coalition of voters. His re-election, the largest by a Republican governor in New Jersey since 1985, could help him make a case for governing as a conservative without ceding the political middle ahead of a possible presidential bid.

In Virginia, McAuliffe held off a late charge by Cuccinelli in a polarizing campaign that exposed liabilities that could drag down both parties next year: President Barack Obama's health care overhaul for Democrats and a partial government shutdown for Republicans. McAuliffe is a longtime friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton, giving the former secretary of state an important ally should she seek the White House again."
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2013 4:22:17 PM

I'm betting the new Virginia Governor won't be thanking Maryland's for all the new business influx, lol. It'll beinteresting to watch the tax and business situation in VA.
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2013 12:03:55 AM

Oh and the libertarian bleed off went to a fake libertarian with ties to an Obama donor.

We get it, Virginia you are about to

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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 11:49:30 PM

The talk is that Virginia rejected "radical conservatism"...

...in favor of a radical liberal campaign fund raiser -- fueled by out of State donor cash and billionaire special interest. They fabricated a false narrative to win, just like Obama -- gee really? say it isn't so!

The irony of this is priceless LMAO

Virginia, enjoy your new clueless leader -- with his vast experience in nothing useful. He's a professional campaign money launderer for crying out loud!

Just like Obama, Mcauliffe is another empty promise, made for TV "facebook" leader

It's clear that De Blasio will speed up NYC's rapid corporate defection rate...

... to NJ!



[Edited by: e_jeepin at 11/8/2013 11:54:44 PM EST]
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 4:14:56 PM

What else did we get?

Conservative Republican Barbara Comstock, "a very conservative delegate was able to run between 8 and 18 points ahead of Cuccinelli and win a district that just a year ago went for Tim Kaine for senator and Barack Obama."

"Barbara Comstock is as conservative as any right-winger could desire — pro–free enterprise, pro-life, and pro–second amendment. Her opponent, Kathleen Murphy, a doctrinaire liberal, was supported by the unions, Michael Bloomberg, NARAL, and Planned Parenthood."

She won election to Virginia's House 34th District.

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EZExit
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 10:39:02 AM

The Virginia governor race was more of the same that is typical, probably more of a popularity contest amongst uneducated voters, voting for the least objectionable candidate. New Jersey governor Christie is already popular, and is seen as more favorable than Buono, with a record low voter turnout. The majority of voters are becoming apathetic.

The topic should be what we should be getting from the New York City's mayoral race, many of us see quite a few socialistic tendencies from Obama, but Obama would seem like a centrist when side by side with de Blasio.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 10:06:29 AM

"Topic: What, if anything, should we be "getting" from the NJ and VA Governor races?"

That most voters are dumb and vote with their emotions. Look at the Virginia race for an example. A few weeks ago it looked like a slam dunk because of the government shutdown. Then ObamaCare's epic failure and he is right back in the race and the final results were probably closer than it should have been. People are too easily swayed by emotions of an immediate newsworthy item!
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 9:55:21 AM

Mudtoe, when I said the GOP would slam Obamacare down our throats I was referring to them using it as a "sky is falling" issue as they have been for the last two years. The sad thing is, they may actually have some good points this time.

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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 9:47:59 AM

Extreme cons won't get anything out of the last election's results. They will continue to push the same old teabelly message as if nothing happened. Doing so will guarantee more losses for their party in the mid terms and a new dem in the White House in 2016.

Tim, "barely clung" is a victory in a state that normally likes cons. I say that as a Va native.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2013 9:08:10 AM

Christie being a Republican is very tough here in NJ. He is willing to deal with the Liberal NJ legislator & get things done. Sure he can be a big blowhard bully at times. But he is OUR BIG BLOWHARD BULLY .......
Got A Problem with that???
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 7:25:29 PM

Yeah, i75, Sean Hannity came up with all kinds of twists and turns as to why McCauliff won instead of the Ken Doll of the Tea Party. Even that the Dems put up a third party candidate and the Republicans did not give Ken enough money!!

Please, it was close but we know that the Dem won BECAUSE of the Ken Doll of the Tea Party was the Republican Candidate.

Christie won because he is his own man, not a panderer. That is why I like him. That is why if it were him and Hillary running I would not care who won. Really. I like him that much. An honest a politician as they get!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 6:49:05 PM

zim: "2. The GOP will continue to slam Obamacare down our throats in all hotly contested elections. "


ROFL!! The democrats are the ones slamming Obamacare down our throats. The are 100% the owners and champions of Obamacare. Not a single republican voted for it, so they were doing there best to keep the democrats from ramming the piece of excrement called Obamacare down the country's throat. Too bad nobody listened until it was too late. So if you want to fault the republicans for saying: "We told you so!", then I guess that's your privilege.


mudtoe





[Edited by: mudtoe at 11/6/2013 6:50:00 PM EST]
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greentre
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 6:44:23 PM

"The GOP will continue to slam Obamacare down our throats in all hotly contested elections."

No need for the GOP to slam anything, just report what the failings are. In this and all of the O-failures.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 3:41:12 PM

I think there are a couple of takeaways from these two gubernatorial elections.

1. Chris Christie is the man to beat for the 2016 Republican nomination. His ability to dominate in a highly Democrat state speaks to his popularity and ability to appeal across party lines. Not kowtowing to the tea party is helpful there.

2. The GOP will continue to slam Obamacare down our throats in all hotly contested elections. They've built a monolithic propaganda monster for the past 2 years and now it's time to let it do its work.

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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 12:18:10 PM

"All politics is local"

--Tip O'Neil
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 12:01:34 PM

It certainly should give pause to both parties; Dems for the amount of money and "star power" they pumped in for a slim victory and Reps for the lack of enough support to push past on the anti-ObamaCare tide. Hard to tell at this point if ObamaCare will subside to a wavelet or coltinue rising to an incumbent-crushing tsunami.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2013 11:16:08 AM

You're getting Mark Levin's reaction if you click the link. Hint: He's not happy.
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