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daylily2009

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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 9:17:07 AM

White House knew in 2010 that millions couldn't keep health plan.
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2014 10:24:06 AM

send him back to chicago!!
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2014 4:41:45 PM

Why anyone would vote one time beyond me
2 times must be out on a,limb!!!
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 11:04:01 AM

Where will next red line be?
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2014 10:14:05 AM

Yes every time he answered questions
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2014 1:59:26 PM

Did Obama lie to O'Reilly??
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 2:04:13 PM

I must ask why??
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KansasGunman
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2014 12:16:48 PM

" Topic: Honorable President Obama"

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Honorable???
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2014 10:21:44 AM

Most dishonorable of any president
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2014 12:06:41 PM

Oh yeah - tell me again how Obamacare is so great for us... Hows that working out for ya?
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>>>The percentage of Americans with health insurance has dropped from 84 percent in 2009 to 83.8 percent in 2014, according to a report by Gallup issued the day before President Obama’s State of the Union speech.

The 0.2 point drop means that roughly 600,000 people have lost insurance amid the lousy economy that has prevailed during Obama’s tenure.

The number means that four years after the Democrats birthed the Obamacare network, the percentage of people without insurance is still below the level seen during President George. W. Bush’s second term.

GOP leaders and free-market advocates argue that GOP-backed free-market health laws would have provided more coverage to more people than was allowed by Obamacare’s mix of new taxes, myriad regulations and government-designed insurance packages.

The percentage drop shown by Gallup helps explain why public support for Obamacare remains low.<<<

Hey ---- I know - I know ---- maybe Obama and all his sycophants can come out and tell us a bunch more lies and make the gullible feel better....
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2014 8:02:24 PM

Bozocare is moving ever faster toward the cliff. In the documentation released to justify the replacement of CGI with Accenture as the new contractor on a no bid basis, there were a couple of gems hinting at just how bad things are. Among them are:




“There is limited time to build this functionality and failure to deliver…by mid-March 2014 will result in financial harm to the government.”

“If this functionality is not complete by mid-March 2014, the government could make erroneous payments to providers and insurers.”

“Additionally, without a Financial Management platform that accounts for enrollments and associated program costs that integrates with the existing CMA Accounting platform, the entire healthcare reform program is jeopardized.”

“This could result in inaccurate issuance of payments to health plans which could seriously put them at financial risk; potentially leading to their default and disrupting continued services and coverage to consumers”


Here's a link to the article:

Obamacare rolling onwared toward disaster




Wow!! The wheels are about to come of the wagon! Also today the CEO of Aetna, Mark Bertolini, was on CNBC (the business channel, not MSNBC the propaganda channel), and he made a comment that there were possible situations in which Aetna could be forced to back out of the exchanges. He also said that rates for 2015 will be set in May of this year based on the demographics of who has signed up. We all know that the young and healthy are avoiding Bozocare like the plague. Just what do you think those rates will be for next year without those young and healthy people volunteering to sign up and pay for everyone else?? Even more delicious is that those new rates will be published in October, right before the mid-terms! I couldn't have asked for better timing!

This thing is on a collision course with catastrophe and if the Republicans are smart they will get out of the way. Now is not the time to discuss fixing it because anything Republicans suggest will be seized upon by the Democrats and the MSM as something to criticize in order to change the subject from this train wreck that's about to happen. There will be time enough for Republicans to suggest things AFTER Bozocare has crashed, burned, and taken Obama and a whole bunch of Democrats with it, say after the midterms.

At that point the Republicans can start working with the Democrats to pick up the pieces, AFTER a bill repealing Bozocare has passed the House and Senate, and Bozo himself has signed it. The Democrats have to hit rock bottom, including Bozo agreeing to repeal his own signature failure, before the Republicans should agree to do anything but stand back and watch, IMHO.


mudtoe





[Edited by: mudtoe at 1/22/2014 8:03:05 PM EST]
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2014 7:28:36 PM

It will take a great president to correct Obama's mess
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2013 12:04:53 PM

As i have seen the most dishonorable ever!!!
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2013 1:41:00 PM

"--Actually, the ACA, [...] is the first step in desensitizing the population to a more socialistic form of government."

I believe the Social Security Act accomplished that.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2013 2:15:26 AM

Md11: <<<"The ACA was a bone to the Insurance Industry. The Tea Party is losing the battle over this talking point.">>>

--Actually, the ACA, or ObamaCare© as I refer to it, is the first step in desensitizing the population to a more socialistic form of government. It would seem that the more the population learns about ObamaCare©, the less they like it. I refer to a steady decline in approval ratings in this regard, as well as the benchmark Obama achieved yesterday (a disapproval rating worse than George Bush ever had ever faced), of dipping below 40%.

The Tea Party has had nothing to do with this, democrats did this on their own. Liberals built this, liberals own this, and liberals will fall due to this. I think you already know this, as the silent frustration over ObamaCare's© failure from yourself as well as other similar minded posters in this forum is quite palpable.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2013 2:02:27 AM

"Honorable" President Obama? Are you kidding me?
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md11capt
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 12:58:54 PM

The ACA was a bone to the Insurance Industry. The Tea Party is losing the battle over this talking point.
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 12:27:51 PM

The most likely winner for bottom of the ladder award==obama
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 9:59:56 AM

With all the new lies about how well the website is working he's looking more and more like Baghdad Bob all the time. Everything crashing all around him and he's out there trying to convince everyone everything is calm and smooth.
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 5:16:47 AM

He is a total RAT!
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Grizdad
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2013 5:14:20 AM

Who was that spokesman for Saddam? Came up with some wild stuff...
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 9:10:42 AM

Merry Christmas to All!!
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2013 1:41:07 PM

I like that AC... used to be if it was a man it was a spokesman if it was a woman it was was spokeswoman. They eventually went to spokesperson. But now with the current administration it's needs to be spokesliar.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2013 1:15:28 PM

And he managed to get his spokesliar to "clarify" the position. Now it's "You can keep your health care plan.. if it still is being offered." Of course, Obama knew full well that his law WOULD doom a whole mess of reasonably priced health care plans that were working well for a whole lot of people.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2013 5:04:33 AM

I read as well that Democrats, including Obama are backing off referring to it as Obama Care® and have gone back to calling it the affordable health care act.
Affordable care is a misnomer as well
Nope.
That's not going to happen.
They are absolutely 100% stuck with Obama Care®
Especially since Obama took to calling it that during his reelection BS tours.

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2013 2:09:42 AM

I wonder how may more stories like these we will hear?ObamaCare forcing people into Medicaid

This is one part of the story I just loved.

The father owns a $5 million house - entirely paid for. His kids attend expensive private schools. He owns three cars, but because he has earned his fortune and has stopped working , and his wife's new start-up business has yet to produce an income stream, he is considered by the Healthcare.gov website to have no income.
The website put him on Medicaid. He protested in the website's chat area. A screen grab of the dialogue reads: "Let 60 minutes show up in front of my 5 million dollars paid for house and tell America that this guy is on {Medicade} and that the American people are paying {fro} it!"
A navigator replied, "I do understand your frustration, however I have no other options to offer."
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 9:24:53 PM

In another month or two he will be down there with congress.
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 8:10:47 PM

ObamaCare approval rating is at 31%. How low can it go?
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 10:56:18 PM

How many guesses do I get?
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 10:54:32 PM

johnnyg1200 said: "ObamaCare backer cited by president loses tax credit"

Yeah, but guess which side of the story made the press conference and which side will get buried by the MSM?
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 6:36:42 PM

Here is another one of Obama’s Obamacare success stories.
On 21 Oct 2013 in the Rose Garden Obama took time to pump up the greatness of Obamacare. One case in particular was a letter to Obama from a woman named Jessica Sanford.

Here is a cut and paste from the press conference.
“I recently received a letter from a woman named Jessica Sanford in Washington State. And here’s what she wrote: “I am a single mom, no child support, self-employed, and I haven’t had insurance for 15 years because it’s too expensive. My son has ADHD and requires regular doctor visits and his meds alone cost $250 per month. I have had an ongoing tendinitis problem due to my line of work that I haven’t had treated. Now, finally, we get to have coverage because of the ACA for $169 per month. I was crying the other day when I signed up. So much stress lifted.”
Now, that is not untypical for a lot of folks like Jessica who have been struggling without health insurance. That’s what the Affordable Care Act is all about. The point is, the essence of the law -- the health insurance that’s available to people -- is working just fine. In some cases, actually, it’s exceeding expectations -- the prices are lower than we expected, the choice is greater than we expected.”
Verify this account at the government’s own website.

Obama stated that Jessica’s story was not "untypical."

In her letter Jessica stated that she was crying because she could now get healthcare. She is probably crying again because there was a mistake.

Things weren’t as rosy as Jessica and the rest of us were lead to believe.
Before ObamaCare, Sanford was getting health insurance rate quotes of about $500-$600 a month.
Sanford’s home state of Washington is one of 14 that opted to create its own online health care exchange rather than use the glitch-ridden federal one. Sanford enrolled in a “gold”-level health plan offered by Premera Blue Cross. Due to a tax credit, she got a $452 discount -- and a plan for just $169 a month.
Sanford, though, reportedly then got a letter from her state health exchange that said they had made an error in the tax-credit calculations. The mistake affected 4,600 policies and covered 8,000 people – including Sanford.
There is more to this story but in the end she ended up not qualifying for any discount. So now she will be required by law to buy a healthcare plan that she couldn’t afford before for about the same price.
ObamaCare backer cited by president loses tax credit

In Obama words I don't think "this is not untypical."

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 11/19/2013 6:37:22 PM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 12:11:21 PM

He was just reading his teleprompter. He probably didn't even know he said it until it was played back to him a couple of times. LOL
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 6:23:24 AM

People in Minnesota who have lost their plans will be unable to get them back. Governor Mark Dayton made that decision in response to complaints from the insurance companies that are working with the State exchange here.
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 7:34:04 AM

The numbers for Mass are that so far only 1,000 of the 350,000 being thrown into the street have successfully signed up.

Experts have been brought in to analyze. The consensus is that they tried to think of everything that an applicant could possibly need and put it in the process regardless of whether it was needed or not.

The site cost an exorbitant amount of money... isn't performing even basic tasks... and is causing extremely long delays.

That will be health care under Obamacare. It will cost more... won't perform basic tasks... and will cause shortages and long waits for care.

Let's see... one size fits all... centralized planning... govt controlled... inefficient distribution...and the govt and their friends being given special favors...seems familiar I just can't put my finger on it.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 6:11:13 PM

ej: "Honestly, I don't think he believes he lied -- he was told what to say by his handlers."


I do believe his handlers told him to say it, but I also believe that both they and he knew it was a lie. For all of them it was one of those ends justifying the means situations.


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 11/17/2013 6:10:38 PM EST]
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 5:14:31 PM

Honestly, I don't think he believes he lied -- he was told what to say by his handlers. Remember, Obama is the Facebook President, a spokesmodel who doesn't know anything, actively participates in nothing -- then wonders why he looks dumb in the end. He has delegated all responsibilities to the corrupt pool of liberal minions that are pushing the buttons behind the curtain.

Obama is the spokesmodel's spokesmodel for liberal propaganda
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 5:02:01 PM

Ever hear the expression that someone is a "mans man" ?

In the same vein Obama is a "liars liar"
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 11:18:48 AM

Have we ever had president that we could call a liar and it happens over and over obama is a lying liar!!
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modeshoo825
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 10:32:26 AM

"It is also, nothing new that business, in this case insurance companies will try their best to make money by taking advantage of people required by law to do something."

In this case, people are required by law to purchase a federally-mandated, more expensive, version of the insurance companys' products because the less expensive versions are now, by law, illegal.

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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 10:31:40 AM

"those states that have their own exchanges have been doing well."


Here in Mass where we have our own exchange... the supposed model for Obamacare... were denied an exemption from Obamacare. People are waiting hours to get processed. And when they get in they are being "forced" into signing up for subsidized care whether they qualify or not. But as they begin to fill out the application they are warned if they lie about their eligibility they will be prosecuted.

Most people are reportedly giving up while waiting on hold before they even get to the false choice.

More people were able to buy tickets to a local concert in 1 hour then have been able to sign up in a month for Obamacare.

[Edited by: airfresh at 11/14/2013 10:32:59 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 10:03:32 AM

hep0950said: "those states that have their own exchanges have been doing well."

Oh, REALLY??

Here are the numbers for them. Oregon's ZEEEEROOO is listed as "N/A". Who knows if that applies to D.C., Massachusetts and Hawaii too?

1)California*: 35,364
2)Colorado*: 3,736
3)Connecticut*: 4,418
4)District of Columbia*: N/A
5)Hawaii*: N/A
6)Kentucky*: 5,586
7)Minnesota*: 1,774
8)Maryland*: 1,284
9)Massachusetts*: N/A
10)Minnesota*: 1,774
11)Nevada*: 1,217
12)New York*: 16,404
13)Oregon*: N/A
14)Rhode Island*: 1,192
15)Washington*: 7,091

Pretty miserable examples of "doing well", aren't they?

Remember the excuse we heard from the libs when the catastrophic website came online? It was supposedly flooded from all the demand for people so anxious to FINALLY get "affordable" health care. Now that we have the more realistic numbers for them to chew on, what's their next excuse for Obozo's grandest failure yet going to be?
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 8:16:39 AM

The ACA is not going anywhere. It will be here a generation from now. It will most likely be revised and made more customer friendly, but, all government social programs go through that. This is nothing new.

It is also, nothing new that business, in this case insurance companies will try their best to make money by taking advantage of people required by law to do something. There you go.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 7:12:01 AM

Shameful.
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modeshoo825
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 7:05:27 AM

"Precisely, those states that have their own exchanges have been doing well."

Take California for example, 35,000 enrolled in a state where 6.7 million uninsured are federally mandated to buy federally subsidized health insurance. - ROTFLMAO!!!

"Makes you wonder what would have happened if the other states would have not refuse to open their own exchanges."

Judging by states that are "doing well", 0.6% instead of 0.2% of the nation's uninsured would have signed up for coverage through 0bamacare.

"Many of the insurance policies being dropped were junk policies that really didn't cover much."

Many of the insurance policies being dropped, like mine, were deemed to expensive by 0bamacare standards. Now many like me are FORCED to pay 80% more for INFERIOR coverage.

"I've looked at some of these myself in the past. And another thought, Medicare took two years to get all the kinks out."

Medicare has been around for several decades now, and they still ain't got all the kinks worked out and it's riddled with hundreds of billions (with a 'b') in fraud every year.

"It seems like the fault in those situations are the employers who do that."

It would seem like that if you didn't know what you were talking about, you're faulting employers who offered insurance policies that are now illegal, that's right ILLEGAL, per 0bamacare.

"Look at the execs pay raises and the workers raises and how they are getting further apart while companies are getting bigger profits."

This is happening at an even greater rate since 0bama took office, and at an even greater rate yet since PPACA was signed into law. The implementation of the law will only make it worse.

"The Republicans idea of solving people with part time jobs that don't male as much, is to get another part time job."

The idiots' idea of solving people with part time jobs is to arbitrarily raise the minimum wage (without considering the consequences) and / or provide them with enough government assistance to eliminate their desire to get a full time job, or even another part time job.

"This is all good and fine, except how many people are going to have to do this and how many part time jobs are out there. How about bringing jobs back here and raising the minimum wage so those that are making minimum wage can get out of the poverty level."

Jobs left because of the cost of doing business, so the solution is to increase the cost of doing business to bring them back? Genius!

"This not only helps them, but adds to the revenue of the country by more taxes and less output of food stamps and other such programs."

Not when there are even fewer people working as a result of your plan.

Seriously, Economics 101 - consider enrolling next semester.

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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 6:17:10 AM

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems."

obama–attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare (aka obamacare), while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 12:53:57 AM

"Many of the insurance policies being dropped were junk policies that really didn't cover much."

On Tues. House Minority Whip Stoyer stated that the insurance policies being cancelled were issued between when the ACA was enacted in 2010 and now -- an argument I haven't heard previously.

With all of the claims and counter-claims being bantered about these days, it can be a challenge to determine which statements are legitimate and which are merely half-truths.

[L=http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/text deleted Were the cancelled policies issued after the ACA was enacted?[/L]



[Edited by: KatmanDo at 11/14/2013 12:57:42 AM EST]
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2013 12:11:22 PM

Anybody that thinks obama is not a liar!!
hasn't listened to him..
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 8:32:58 AM


Radical socialists can defend that, mini.

They have always lied to get what they want.

They are jumping with glee over their ability to pull the wool over the eyes of the American people and destroy one sixth of the US economy in one fell swoop without using one Bolshevik bullet.

That is who.

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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 8:24:02 AM

How could anybody defend THIS?
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 8:15:57 AM


The disaster that is the ObamaCare website is only the symptom.

The disease is ObamaCare itself.

And for that there is no cure that does not kill the patient.

Watch the libs around here continue to spin wildly.

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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 7:53:09 AM

kat, you and hep just need to stop. The fact that Kentucky has a website that works is just ONE piece to the puzzle. This is my life, and my health insurance situation. I live here. It is the second time in two years I am being forced to make another decision about insurance and the second time in two years the cost of my health insurance is going up--because of Obamacare--no other reason. If not for Obamacare, this would not be happening. It's not the faults of the insurance companies. Next year, it goes up again.

Obama said the average family would save $2500 under Obamacare, now we're being told the average family health insurance costs will be $2500 more.

Political Apologetics is self-induced blindness.

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/12/2013 7:59:55 AM EST]
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