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MahopacJack

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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2013 9:13:22 AM

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Remember when Obama said, "increasing our debt ceiling does not mean we will increase our debt." ?

In typical Obama fashion, he contradicted himself. Only this time it took less than 24 hours! It also shattered the record one day spending spree by $32 Billion.

According to the article, he had to have known about the increase well beforehand as the INCREASE IN DEBT was to, "...replenishing its stock of “extraordinary measures” — the federal funds it borrowed from over the last five months as it tried to avoid bumping into the debt ceiling.

Under the law, that replenishing happens as soon as there is new debt space."

But wait it gets worse.

Again from the article, "But under the terms of this week’s deal, Congress set a deadline instead of a dollar cap. That means debt will rise by as much as the government spends between now and the Feb. 7 deadline.

Judging by the rate of increase over the last five months, that could end up meaning Congress just granted Mr. Obama a debt increase of $700 billion or more.

Republicans initially sought to attach strings to the debt increase, but surrendered this week, instead settling on a bill that reopened the government and included some special earmark projects, but didn’t include any spending cuts.

Democrats insisted that the debt increase be “clean,” meaning without any strings attached. They say the debt increase only allows Mr. Obama to pay for the bills he and Congress already racked up, and that it doesn’t encourage new spending."

One cannot help but wonder are there any more glaring examples of what was said was already known to be falsehood?
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[Edited by: MahopacJack at 10/20/2013 9:13:53 AM EST]
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 5:02:33 PM

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As first reported in a book review by the Washington Post’s Peter Hamby, Obama told aides in connection with the CIA's drone program that he is “really good at killing people.” (see source below)

A statement such as that would normally have the media up in arms but there has been little if any reaction. Hmmm?

Also fom the source, "According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, the CIA has conducted 378 strikes in the program’s 10-year history. Of those, 326 are classified as “Obama strikes.” The total number of people killed by drones is estimated at 2,528 to 3,648. Civilian casualties are estimated at 416 to 948, with 168 to 200 of those being children. As many as another 1,545 are estimated to have been injured in those strikes.

"We conduct those strikes because they are necessary to mitigate ongoing actual threats — to stop plots, prevent future attacks and, again, save American lives,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said in February. “These strikes are legal, they are ethical, and they are wise." And, thanks to this book, the motivations of the man who orders them will remain under scrutiny."

It would appear our Constitutional Professor turned President has not read Article I where the actions he's alleged to be bragging about are permitted only by Congress!

Article I Section(s), "8.10 To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

8.11 To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;"
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Source Yahoo News
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2013 2:51:12 PM

johnny: <<<"The same network that went for a year without mentioning Fast And The Furious and when they did tried to make it out to be a Republican witch hunt for the first black Attorney General.">>>

--They had to do something, either continue loosing what little credibility they had left as an Obama cheerleader, or report on the obvious discontent from millions forced to having their health care upended.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2013 2:32:24 PM

Here is an NBC story on how Obama stood before the American people and told us bold faced lies to get the support for his takeover of the healthcare system in the United States.

Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance

This isn’t Fox New, The Blaze, or the Hartlander. This is one of Obama’s big supporters. The same network that went for a year without mentioning Fast And The Furious and when they did tried to make it out to be a Republican witch hunt for the first black Attorney General.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 8:46:17 PM

Bell: "I don't believe that President Obama is a liar."


I'm afraid I have to disagree with you as well. The left has wanted government controlled healthcare for decades (recall the fervor over Hillarycare). Nationalization of healthcare is one of the Holy Grail milestones for the left on the path to socialism, and Obama himself explained in an interview that the public wouldn't accept that outright and therefore some sort of intermediate step would be necessary to clinch the deal. In that context, one must ask just what would Obama be willing to do to be the man who goes down in history as the icon of the left who made national healthcare possible.

Do you believe that Obama would lie, if a lie was all that stood between him and his legacy? Also note that this lie wasn't a small lie about arcane technical matters that were not important in the grand scheme of things and which a President might not be expected to know and get right. This lie was the difference between the success and failure for Obama. Does anyone believe that if the public knew that millions would lose their coverage and millions more would be subject to premiums that were double or triple the cost of their old premiums, that the bill would have passed? No sir, this lie was the difference between the bill passing and the bill being defeated, and it changed the course of history. Remember, Obamacare passed by just a single vote in the Senate.

For all these reasons I have no doubt that Obama lied through his teeth.


mudtoe



[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/30/2013 8:48:44 PM EST]
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 7:15:26 PM

I respectfully disagree Bell. Remember the lies about Benghazi?
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 7:00:57 PM

Worry, are you saying then, that libs do not do deep thinking? just cons do..
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Gidzmo
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 6:51:13 PM

nstrdnvstr: "I remember him saying that adding trillions of dollars to the debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic and that made a lot of sense."

Yes, I remember that, too. It's played every so often on Sean Hannity's program.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 6:39:37 PM

He certainly is keeping you cons busy and out of trouble with all your deep thinking.
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 6:37:13 PM

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And in keeping with the Administration's long standing tradition of lying we have ........

Gotta' love how these Democruds really look out for us.
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Edger
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2013 10:38:08 AM

I guess the pResident is nothing but an evolver.
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2013 10:31:27 AM

Bell makes a great point however Obama is still trying to figure out how to stop the seas from rising.
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2013 9:52:11 AM

I don't believe that President Obama is a liar. Yes, you read that right. I'm a Fiscal Conservative and I do not believe this President to be a liar. I believe that this President has made statements that he believed at the time but then found it was harder to govern than campaign. Some things that sounded really good as a Senator or as a candidate didn't sound so good once he was in the Oval Office.

For example, his statements saying the Bush was irresponsible asking for a debt ceiling increase. He evolved a bit on that opinion once in the White House.

When he promised people making $250k or less that their taxes wouldn't go up one dime. It sounded good, I'm sure he meant it when he read it off the teleprompter. But in real practice, he didn't think about the fact that poor people smoke when he raised the cigarette tax. He didn't think that some people making under $250k a year have Cadillac healthcare plans. He didn't realize that lowering the Pre-Tax Flexible Spending Account maximum to $2500 would increase the taxes paid by individuals.

Cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term? Sounded good. Of course, the Sequester has helped cut that but a little behind schedule from when he wanted with fighting tooth and nail against it from his office.

Finally, TRANSPARENCY. Man did that sound like a great idea. Hold on, the American people would really see what is going on in the White House? Back up, hold the phone, no way.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2013 9:12:16 AM

Does anyone remember when Obama was called a Liar while he was making a speech in congress
2009
South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson shouted “You lie!” in response to the claim that illegal immigrants would not be covered under universal coverage.
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greentre
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2013 7:12:52 PM

I remember this...
Deficit and a Synopsis
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2013 4:46:12 PM

jeskibuff, "
I dunno...I remember him saying that adding trillions of dollars to the debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic and that made a lot of sense."

I think he gave himself a waiver on that one!
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2013 5:17:22 AM

Just a liar!
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2013 9:55:56 PM

PatAZ said: "It's hard to remember anything he says that makes any sense."

I dunno...I remember him saying that adding trillions of dollars to the debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic and that made a lot of sense.

But then again, we've seen how much this total turd of a president has lied, haven't we?
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2013 7:06:26 PM

Just one of many lies from Obama.... it is to be expected.
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2013 6:20:59 PM

It's hard to remember anything he says that makes any sense.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2013 11:42:32 AM

This is the most unlawful and deceitful administration in history. Rather than obfuscate or change the subject, as many administrations have done when they don't want to talk about something, this administration simply tells bald-faced lies. They don't get called on them, and when they are shown to be bald-faced lies the MSM buries it and doesn't hold them accountable. Therefore they have figured out that there is no penalty for directly lying, which is much easier than being evasive or refusing to answer. They have also figured out that there is no penalty for breaking the law. The numbers on how the debt moved, or didn't move, showed that they were cooking the books, and Obama broke the law by giving exemptions to Congress and the Executive Branch as well as by exempting businesses from Obamacare for a year. He also broke the law by turning contract law on its head and screwing the bondholders in the GM bankrupcty. Again, nobody challenged it.

We have entered a new era in government where the law and the truth no longer mean anything. It's now perfectly acceptable for the President to break the law and utter direct lies just so long his opponents are either powerless or too craven to stop him and as long as the MSM agrees with what he's doing. That's really where we are now.


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/20/2013 11:43:37 AM EST]
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