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eldiablopoco

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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 1:41:03 PM

Call it heartless but when politics gets involved it turns out to be heartless.



[Edited by: eldiablopoco at 9/13/2013 1:47:35 PM EST]
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eldiablopoco
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 4:00:41 PM

As an independent, I support public education and helping the next man who needs government assistance because of corporate greed. I don't support FEMA because the ones that are benefiting are not the ones that need it. We all know that the Mississippi river floods and hurricanes hit Florida. If you don't have the common sense or financial stability to rebuild after those common types of disasters then you need to move to an area where the disasters are more manageable, not look for a handout.
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 3:11:11 PM

Welcome to the SSIGMTHWY.

'Selfish States of I-Got-Mine-To-Hell-With-You.'
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 3:09:05 PM

"Worry, jayrad, that is a liberal philosophy."

So, you are saying as a conservative you don't have the need, desire or will to help out fellow Americans in time of tragedy and need? I am amazed you would think that. Sounds kind of selfish.

Is that your definition of "compassionate conservatism"?

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 9/19/2013 3:12:12 PM EST]
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eldiablopoco
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 3:02:40 PM

Worry, jayrad, that is a liberal philosophy. The conservative philosophy is to bootstrap your way to the top. It is not my responsibility to gibe you a helping hand. FEMA is another social welfare program and I am honestly tired of bailing out the same morons that choose to live along the flood plains of the Mississippi because it only happens once every 100 years, or Florida because they don't think they will get hit by a hurricane.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 10:58:37 PM

We are Americans. We help each other.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 5:56:20 PM

"As for the topic itself, please remember - we are the United States of America, not Each of Us On His Own."

Well said!
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eldiablopoco
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 2:07:37 PM

The money that has been provided to assist states recover by the federal government is money that I also contributed to with my tax dollars. I don't personally use that infrastructure destroyed by those natural disaster and resent being held liable because people decided that they will never fall victim to the 100 year flood; and as far as I know, I have no current intentions on using that infrastructure. Those individuals that chose to build communities in those areas should foot the bill for those recovery efforts. I am tired of seeing my tax dollars, no matter how small it contributes to the grand project, paying for the poor decisions of people and corruption of local leaders. Government should not be in the business of bailing out disaster victims. States that experience infrastructure damage due natural disasters should have contingency financing and insurance to cover the damage. People should have insurance and contingency financing to carry them through and forward. If people can't bootstrap their poor decisions they need to find a charity that is in the business of doing such.
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eldiablopoco
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 2:07:29 PM

The money that has been provided to assist states recover by the federal government is money that I also contributed to with my tax dollars. I don't personally use that infrastructure destroyed by those natural disaster and resent being held liable because people decided that they will never fall victim to the 100 year flood; and as far as I know, I have no current intentions on using that infrastructure. Those individuals that chose to build communities in those areas should foot the bill for those recovery efforts. I am tired of seeing my tax dollars, no matter how small it contributes to the grand project, paying for the poor decisions of people and corruption of local leaders. Government should not be in the business of bailing out disaster victims. States that experience infrastructure damage due natural disasters should have contingency financing and insurance to cover the damage. People should have insurance and contingency financing to carry them through and forward. If people can't bootstrap their poor decisions they need to find a charity that is in the business of doing such.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 11:08:53 AM

The money should be spent on PUBLIC infrastructure that was destroyed and that benefits ALL citizens.

Funny that you call personal responsibility "crap". It explains much about the policies that the guy you elected has tried to implement. Government knows best and common people can't be trusted to manage their own affairs.

Common sense has become such a rarity, it should be designated a superpower.
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NickHammer
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 10:09:46 AM

>>Most of them have never heard of Davey Crockette's speech to Congress while he was a member of the then august (but no longer) House of Representatives.<<

First of all, his name is spelled "Davy Crockett" (it's right there in your link). Secondly, don't believe everything you read - it may not be true.

 
As for the topic itself, please remember - we are the United States of America, not Each of Us On His Own. And, despite all the "personal responsibility" crap that many of you are spouting, the OP's article has nothing to do with that.

Money was given to help states recover. States should be using that money on projects directly related to the recovery effort, and nothing else. And, as greentre noted, they should be using that money in a given period of time. They know what needs to be rebuilt (HINT: the stuff that was destroyed); if they can't get around to doing that in 8 years, then obviously they didn't need the money.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 8:28:15 AM

The argument for this is strong. It touches not only upon Congress' responsibility, but upon personal responsibility as well.

If you're not smart enough to have insurance against disaster, natural or otherwise, then live with the consequences.
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eldiablopoco
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 12:58:44 AM

It sad that there are people that complain about being on the government bosom but support it when a natural disaster occurs. Take responsibility where you choose to live and stop acting as if my tax dollars should bail you out because the area in which you live gets 27 inches of rain and floods half of Colorado. Honestly, it is not my problem and not my responsibility to pay for where you choose to live.
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2013 4:37:41 PM

Screw Americans we need to fund al queda!!
Use our tax dollars to help the poor idiots that want to blow us up!
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greentre
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2013 4:27:33 PM

The funds should be like personal checks, not valid after a certain time period has elapsed. And really, eight years to use funds for a hurricane? Is the state drawing interest off this money?
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citizen1
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2013 9:49:36 PM

Be prepared.
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2013 9:21:17 AM

Why spend billions helping Americans when there is money needed to aid and subsidize our friends and foes overseas. Now that's the way to spend our tax dollars. Yeah Right.
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 7:36:56 PM

Billions are spent yearly for this work on the East Coast
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 6:22:23 PM

The atlantioc and gulf coastal states Plus Pennsylvania could join in an Interste copact" to develop financial reserves and defenses against wind and water damage a hurricane can cause. AND it would be CONSTITUTIONAL!
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 5:07:32 PM

I agree.
But a lot of us are trapped in the system. I have to pay for flood insurance with my house. Because its so many feet from a tidal river in a natural harbor. But being 20ft above sea level its nearly impossible for me to be flooded. Virginia had its version of hurricane sandy in 1960 and the old lady across the street who has live there since 1950 says that storm 1960 storm never even came close to flooding our street.

If it were up to me I would not carry flood insurance and save my self $100 a month.

[Edited by: oilpan4 at 9/13/2013 5:11:05 PM EST]
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 3:12:23 PM

Not authorized in the US COnstitution
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 2:44:52 PM

eldiablopoco,

Excellent topic and I'm in complete agreement with you.

With that said, you might want to 'batten down the hatches' and expect a lot of bleeding heart protests to your stance. Most of them have never heard of Davey Crockette's speech to Congress while he was a member of the then august (but no longer) House of Representatives.

A lesson from Davey Crockette Were we to have more Representatives like Davey, we wouldn't be in the present economic morass. Enjoy.
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eldiablopoco
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 1:50:14 PM

gasbuddy insert link is not my friend

[Edited by: eldiablopoco at 9/13/2013 1:55:20 PM EST]
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NickHammer
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 1:44:35 PM

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