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worryfree

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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:14:47 PM

Trayvon wasn't the only one with problems

"He’s in his car and he continually has his hand on his gun and he keeps saying 'step closer' and he’s just threatening all of us," Shellie Zimmerman said in the 911 call, adding that George Zimmerman was "trying to shut the garage door" on her."He punched my dad in the nose my dad has a mark on the nose. I saw his glasses were on the floor," Shellie Zimmerman said in the call. He then accosted my father then took my iPad out of my hands. He then smashed it and cut it with a pocketknife, and there is a Lake Mary city worker across the street that I believe saw all of it."


Shellie is smart enough to be divorcing George.

[Edited by: worryfree at 9/9/2013 6:17:09 PM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 10:31:59 AM

As I said, the proof is in who vehemently supports Zimmerman. The right supports him regardless of what he does.
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 11:52:47 PM

worry, you still haven't proved anything. If your going to make a statement at least back it up with credible evidence
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 11:20:56 PM

" As for the accusation, all who are well-read are already aware that there was no "gun," according to police. It was a lie."

Not proven, the police had no warrant, so the truck wasn't searched! Zimmerman's lawyer confirmed there was a gun!
"Police say they are “trying to determine what exactly happened” but they report a gun was present in a fight Zimmerman had on Monday afternoon with her wife and her family, according to WKMG Local 6."
Hopefully forensic experts can salvage video from the smashed iPad. A home security video has been found showing Zimmerman fiddling around with that iPad looked like a person trying to rip a phone book, then tossing it on the pavement. It ended up in a few pieces.

Funny thing, Zimmerman and the friends that showed up with him were recording the whole thing as well. They are seen recording on the video that shows Zimmerman attacking the iPad, nobody knows what was done with his video.
I don't know about anybody else, but if I were accused of threatening somebody with a gun, and I had video showing I didn't have a gun during the altercation, I would have made it available.




[Edited by: rumbleseat at 9/18/2013 11:22:53 PM EST]
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RAB2010
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 11:47:54 AM

Well, who knows about "right wing hero." Was there ever a vetting of Mr. Zimmerman's political views? As for the accusation, all who are well-read are already aware that there was no "gun," according to police. It was a lie.

[Edited by: RAB2010 at 9/18/2013 11:48:52 AM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 1:37:15 AM

His defenders make the case
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runningmp
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2013 7:11:49 PM

worry, so where's your credible evidence that George Zimmerman is a hero of people on the right?
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2013 10:05:51 PM

Why do you think he is a Right Wing hero? Where does he stand on issues? Most of us on that would be considered on the right believe not guilty was the right verdict because of reasonable doubt, but also think that he was stupid and the whole tragic incident could have and should have been avoided.
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lvskyguy
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2013 1:34:01 PM

>>>Divorce makes people do strange things. <<<

Not if one is well-adjusted and can deal with life. Temper temper temper. Temper caught up to OJ, it will happen to Georgie soon enough.
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2013 6:32:01 AM

Divorce makes people do strange things.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 12:32:01 AM

"The latest story from the police is Zimmerman DID NOT HAVE A GUN and HIS WIFE soon to be EX WIFE made the story up."

There could easily have been a gun that the police didn't find. They didn't have a warrant so they didn't search the truck.
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 12:14:10 AM

"her lawyer said George agreed not to be at the home when Shelly picked up some stuff...again he was where he was not supposed to be."

At this time it seems like that is a classic matter of "he said, she said" as I doubt that the attorney was involved in the conversation between George and Shellie Zimmerman.

It sure doesn't feel like things will all turn out well for George in the long run, as characterizations of him make it seem that he feels he may be another Teflon Man.
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lvskyguy
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 3:26:42 PM

Domestic violence is domestic violence - a threat is a threat. But then we need to consider the Stupid State of Florida!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 1:21:11 PM

Poor Mr Z, I'm sure he was framed by the msm, again, Rofl.

Afs, "character", the truth is out now deal with it. It is obvious that you and other cons have given him another free pass.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 1:00:32 AM

Again our cons defend George regardless. I saw the press conference of Shellie- her lawyer said George agreed not to be at the home when Shelly picked up some stuff...again he was where he was not supposed to be. At least this time no one died.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 12:15:06 AM

:::::Did you forget the character assassination the main stream media did on Zimmerman?:::


The first thing the msm did was convert Zimmerman from a Hispanic (good) into a Caucasian (bad). For as we all know, white folk are the Devil's spawn and responsible for all the ills in the world.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 5:55:10 PM

>>>You cons did your very best to trash Trayvon's character.<<<

Did you forget the character assassination the main stream media did on Zimmerman?
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 12:00:16 PM

::::::;You cons did your very best to trash Trayvon's character. :::::


More like Trayvon trashed his own character. All you gotta do is read his Facebook writings and view his self pics. Trayvon was clearly a drug dealer, pusher, and user. Only interested in the next 'high'. One of the lowest of low lifes.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 1:23:38 AM

You cons did your very best to trash Trayvon's character. Zimmerman's should be out there as well. He should not have a permit to carry a gun.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 8:35:38 PM

>>>Zimmerman is not and was not a good man-he had anger and control issues. That should have been part of the trial.<<<

If that was allowed to happen then Trayvon’s past should have been allowed also, much of it under seal because of his age. That would be the only fair way to bring up Zimmerman’s past. Neither one was squeaky clean.

By the way if he did assault his wife he needs to be prosecuted and his weapons rights revoked.
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lvskyguy
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 2:02:07 PM

An idiot with temper/anger issues. This is CLEARLY a person who SEES things as HE wants to see things. His time will come, just like with OJ!
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 12:08:14 PM

:::: Zimmerman is not and was not a good man-he had anger and control issues. That should have been part of the trial. Maybe he'll be convicted the next time he kills someone.:::


You mean the next time he defends himself against a low life street thug loser high on dope?
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 10:00:26 AM

"Norm, Zimmerman's prior domestic violence doesn't matter. All that matters is that they were able to assassinate the character of the guy Zimmerman killed (without him being able to defend himself, of course), so in their minds it's as if he deserved to be killed. "

If it mattered why didn't the prosecution bring it up? The judge allowed it!

And the dumb claim that he was a right wing hero is just that...dumb. I for one wanted him prosecuted at the beginning but changed my opinion based on the evidence. He was never a hero...just a guy that was wrongfully prosecuted. Oh BTW, the police determined in this case that she was the aggressor and that her story did not make sense so he was not arrested. It seems that she may have been lying just to try to get him arrested...kind of like a certain key witness for the prosecution that had no credibility.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 9:37:16 AM

>>I was willing to give this a fair GB trial based on her actual recorded words elaborating in detail about the gun...<<

I seriously doubt that, e_jeepin.

 

>>If Shellie or her dad had shot and killed George would they be charged or would they have been acquitted because they felt threatened and stood their ground ?<<

Yes, worryfree, they would have been acquitted. No matter what Shellie might have done beforehand, if she saw George reach for his gun (as his lawyer said he did) and she shot him before he could take it out, then she could claim that she thought he was going to shoot her.

Frankly, it doesn't seem to me that a guy with his demeanor should be carrying a gun. But I understand that there are a lot of people out there who are quite upset that he wasn't convicted, and he probably feels that he has a big target on his back and needs to protect himself. Unfortunately, he keeps doing things like this that end up in the news (yes, I realize that if he were almost anyone else, it wouldn't be news), and I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see this ending well - he's seems to have an itchy trigger finger and sooner or later, he or someone else is going to get shot.
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Daurel
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 9:24:47 AM

worryfree you need to eat crow I have the ketchup.
The latest story from the police is Zimmerman DID NOT HAVE A GUN and HIS WIFE soon to be EX WIFE made the story up.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 8:08:35 AM

"O'Mara confirmed Zimmerman had his gun on him. "He was armed ... He put his hand (on the gun) to make sure it was holstered," he said."

Don't carry a gun in chicago, but there are number of times I will check to ensure I have my wallet, doesn't relate to me going to use it though...

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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 7:51:56 AM

what alleged marine doesn't know what color marine green is?

just another ods/dfs ? probably.
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1stupedaso
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 7:47:30 AM

The wife should be charged with false reporting!
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 7:30:42 AM

Point to ponder.
If a person is charged and convicted of domestic violence, that person can no longer own a gun and their CCW license is revoked.

What big bucks NRA member stepped foreward and offered her a big reward if she dropped the charge?

Not true?

No more so than the half dozen of the NRA responses posted below.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 7:21:21 AM

Zimmermzn's wife's retraction of even seeing the gun makes this a typical divorce scenario: accuse the other party of terrible acts, because it means you will get a better share of the settlement.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 12:49:06 AM

I was willing to give this a fair GB trial based on her actual recorded words elaborating in detail about the gun...

... until now -- she says she never saw a gun

(she saw it before she didn't)

Nothing to see here folks, move along

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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 12:40:06 AM

I also agree with sgm, each occurrence of an alleged violation of law must always be looked at within its own right. I heard this story on the radio today, and knew that it would be making the GB politics rounds. I also heard on the radio tonight that the wife now states she never saw a gun.

I thought about it some earlier, and realized that all anyone would have to do is take the slightest truth of Zimmerman, add a gun to the story, and the news story would grow water cooler legs of its own. That would appear to be the case in this instance too.
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 12:38:30 AM

O'Mara confirmed Zimmerman had his gun on him. "He was armed ... He put his hand (on the gun) to make sure it was holstered," he said.

Right, that is the first thing you do when you get mad, you put your hand on your gun, but only to make sure it is in your holster! "Don't worry, I am not grabbing my gun to use it on you, I am just making sure it is still in my holster!
Funny, most people seeing a person put a hand on a gun would think the person is, at the least, making the point that they do, indeed, have a gun.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 11:46:46 PM

If Shellie or her dad had shot and killed George would they be charged or would they have been acquitted because they felt threatened and stood their ground ? Zimmerman is not and was not a good man-he had anger and control issues. That should have been part of the trial. Maybe he'll be convicted the next time he kills someone.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 10:10:49 PM

Ack!! I find myself in agreement with sgm4law. I had to read it 3 times just to make sure I got it right, and maybe I should go check and make sure I don't have a fever, but there you have it.

Johnny also hit it on the head. The case would never have made it past the local news if it hadn't fit a certain template.


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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 9:25:39 PM

I thought about posting this story when I saw it earlier today, but I thought, what does it really have to do with anything? The facts of the case still stand. He did something that under Florida law is apparently quite legal. Our system does not allow the conviction of someone because of prior bad acts when you are on trial for unrelated acts.

In the court of public opinion, there are no such legal protections. So, unfortunately, Trayvon Martin was convicted in the court of some conservatives' public opinion and Zimmerman was convicted in the court of some liberals' public opinion.
The fact that this story makes the news does not change the facts in the original case or change what the verdict should have been. I have to agree in a limited fashion with johnnyg1200...

[Edited by: sgm4law at 9/9/2013 9:26:53 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 9:02:00 PM

Zimmerman needs to learn we are civilized people
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 8:30:32 PM

Cons like to moan and whine about personal responsibility. So why is the wife being blamed for this? Typical of the right. Talking out of both sides of the mouth.

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 9/9/2013 8:34:08 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 8:21:45 PM

:::::Or maybe Shellie should have taken her hoodie off and put down the Iced Tea and Skittles very nicely?:::


Why? Was she planning on cooking up a batch of a potent narcotic too? Like Trayvon Martin?
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 8:19:36 PM

::::::Would seem to me it was George Zimmerman who put all that stress on the family.
::::


More like Trayvon Martin put all that stress on the family.

[Edited by: Hemond at 9/9/2013 8:22:38 PM EST]
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 8:16:00 PM

"All that matters is that they were able to assassinate the character of the guy Zimmerman killed (without him being able to defend himself, of course), so in their minds it's as if he deserved to be killed."

Nick BINGO! The post 2 below mine proves your point.

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 9/9/2013 8:16:55 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 8:15:44 PM

johnnyg1200 said: "I never considered him a hero."

He certainly didn't earn a hero status for just defending his own life...that's just being a survivor. Now for helping those people who crashed their car...he certainly deserves accolades.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 8:13:25 PM

NickHammer said: "All that matters is that they were able to assassinate the character of the guy Zimmerman killed"

Lil' Gangsta did a pretty good job of that himself, despite the left's frenzied attempts to bury his unsaintlyhood as quick as they could!
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 7:45:31 PM

>>But he had the SAME type of domestic violence issues and you all dismissed that as if it didn't matter.<<

Norm, Zimmerman's prior domestic violence doesn't matter. All that matters is that they were able to assassinate the character of the guy Zimmerman killed (without him being able to defend himself, of course), so in their minds it's as if he deserved to be killed.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 7:34:51 PM

I never considered him a hero. I just think he was wrongfully prosecuted by and overzealous prosecutor for political reasons to appease the professional race batters.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:54:31 PM

Or maybe Shellie should have taken her hoodie off and put down the Iced Tea and Skittles very nicely?
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:48:09 PM

"Left wing must be proud. They put so much stress on this family how did you expect their marriage to survive?"

Predictable response.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:44:48 PM

"Left wing must be proud. They put so much stress on this family how did you expect their marriage to survive?"


But he had the SAME type of domestic violence issues and you all dismissed that as if it didn't matter.

I guess there WAS truth to that then, huh?
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:42:15 PM

Would seem to me it was George Zimmerman who put all that stress on the family.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:40:11 PM

Shellie isn't pressing charges. How foolish.
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 6:30:00 PM

Left wing must be proud. They put so much stress on this family how did you expect their marriage to survive?
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