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teacher_tim

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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2013 12:17:18 AM


Voter-ID laws continue to get a lot of attention, and proponents of the law are being drowned out by opponents claiming the laws discriminate against certain voters.

Rather than getting IDs to the people who are supposedly disenfranchised, opponents spend their efforts trying to end the laws, even though polls consistently show overwhelming majorities of voters approve of the laws.

Below are just some of the examples of things you need to prove your identity for:

1. Alcohol
2. Cigarettes
3. Opening a bank account
4. Apply for food stamps
5. Apply for welfare
6. Apply for Medicaid/Social Security
7. Apply for unemployment or a job
8. Rent/buy a house, apply for a mortgage
9. Drive/buy/rent a car
10. Get on an airplane
11. Get married
12. Purchase a gun
13. Adopt a pet
14. Rent a hotel room
15. Apply for a hunting license
16. Apply for a fishing license
17. Buy a cell phone
18. Visit a casino
19. Pick up a prescription
20. Hold a rally or protest
21. Blood donations
22. Buy an "M" rated video game
23. Purchase nail polish at CVS
24. Purchase certain cold medicines

But not to vote?

So REALLY, who doesn't have ID and WHY don't they?
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2014 12:46:50 PM

There has been virtually no voter fraud. It's voter suppression.
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Sorry, to disappoint you but we've seen it first hand here in North Carolina
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2014 11:57:29 AM

worryfree, "There has been virtually no voter fraud. It's voter suppression."

Whose vote will be suppressed if they are asked to show an ID? Dead people?
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 12:00:22 PM

I am still back on....if most the people of Mexico have no cars, only buses or walk...how in the world did they manage to get voter ID. In 2012 62.45% of the egilble voters voted in Pres. Election. They have a strict form of voter ID.

2012 USA 57.5% of eligible voters voted. Now, by looking at Mexico compared to USA.....we should be able to increase voting by registering voters as Mexico does.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 11:46:41 AM

It's only voter suppression to those who would prefer to have ineligible people vote.

Give me good reasons that people DON'T have ID and can't be easily assisted to get one.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 11:36:14 AM

•In September, the Columbus Dispatch in Ohio reported this sad and ugly news: “More than one out of every five registered Ohio voters is probably ineligible to vote. In two counties, the number of registered voters actually exceeds the voting-age population: Northwestern Ohio’s Wood County shows 109 registered voters for every 100 eligible, while in Lawrence County along the Ohio River it’s a mere 104 registered per 100 eligible. Another 31 counties show registrations at more than 90 percent of those eligible, a rate regarded as unrealistic by most voting experts. The national average is a little more than 70 percent. In a close presidential election where every vote might count, which ones to count might become paramount on Election Day – and in possible legal battles afterward.” The Dispatch asked Ohio’s chief elections official, Secretary of State Jon Husted, what could be done about this problem. His answer? Not enough. Nine months ago, he asked U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder for a personal meeting to discuss how to balance seemingly conflicting federal laws so he could pare Ohio’s dirty voter list without removing truly eligible voters. Holder’s office never even bothered to reply – to either Husted or the newspaper. What does that tell you? It tells me voter fraud is and was an important tactic in re-electing Holder’s boss and Democrats throughout the country. Anyway, we all know how Ohio voted.
•How about Michigan – Romney’s home state? How did Obama win such a resounding victory when the polls showed the two candidates in a virtual tie? And how is it that Obama won by 9 points while Democrats suffered a string of defeats down the entire state ballot? For instance, Republicans maintained control of both the state House and the Supreme Court, while Democrats lost three ballot propositions.
•Then, of course, there is the fine work of James O’Keefe and Project Veritas, which demonstrated, over and over again on camera, the willingness and ability of Democratic operatives to cheat and commit fraud to win elections.
•How about WND’s own investigation in which it demonstrated conclusively that the Obama campaign welcomed foreign contributions by intentionally leaving vulnerabilities in its web donation page that allowed even those using bogus names, disposable credit cards and foreign IP addresses to donate cash? The classic example was when WND staffers did just this using the name Osama bin Laden, listing his occupation as “deceased terrorist” and employer as “al-Qaida.” The contributions were accepted by the Team Obama, just as it accepted foreign contributions from the Palestinian Authority in 2008, as WND’s Aaron Klein demonstrated

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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 9:42:13 AM

How is asking for some one to prove who they clam to be suppression?

So do banks suppress people from getting their money? Drug store suppress doctor prescribed drug consumption? Do the police suppress people from driving when they pull you over and ask for ID?
No one ever claimed that poor people were being suppressed when paper welfare checks were being sent out.
Because that's what you are saying.

Haven't you found it a little odd virtually every one even in your own party disagrees with you?

Why cant you realize that when some one wants something with out providing proper ID they are likely up to no good.

Aren't you glad the bank suppresses access to your bank account from random people off the street by asking for ID?
Any reasonable person would argue that the security of the voting system is more important than our individual bank accounts and should be guarded as such.

[Edited by: oilpan4 at 1/16/2014 9:42:28 AM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2014 12:24:44 AM

There has been virtually no voter fraud. It's voter suppression.
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2014 11:33:06 PM

"I bet if they still issued paper welfare checks they would all have ID."

No comment, liberals?
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2014 12:37:30 PM

2ovrpar - "The illegals are suppressed."
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At least, but they should be REMOVED!!!
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2014 9:49:57 AM

I bet if they still issued paper welfare checks they would all have ID.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 11:15:32 PM

I get a chuckle when reading some people's viewpoints... asking for ID is voter suppression... ROFL!
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 11:12:57 PM

If you get paid with a paper check, good luck cashing it with out proper ID.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 6:29:37 PM

worryfree, "... Between voter ID and big money buying seats Republicans have finally found away to get past their horrible platform and win some elections."

How many "big money" Wall Street people are now working for Obama? Big money isn't supporting democrats??? Seriously?

Why is it that Obama felt he had to go after the "little guy" Tea Party people then?
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 6:10:24 PM

The poor here in Georgia have ID. You can't get EBT or other aid here without it. Some shelters now check ID before letting anyone in. Many counties in my state have laws requiring ID verification to buy cigarettes or alcohol. Again, what votes are suppressed? Are you going to try and convince me that certain groups lack the intelligence to get a FREE state issued ID? I don't buy it.
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lvskyguy
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 2:49:09 PM

WOW! Action-packed!

Have NEVER ever had to show ID when picking up a prescription!
Wife has NEVER ever had to show ID when purchasing nail polish at CVS!
Have NEVER ever had to show ID when purchasing a "M" Video Games!
Have NEVER ever had to show ID when purchasing a cell phone!
Holding a rally or protest requires an ID? Where?

So what is the big deal to show ID when Voting? PROVE it is YOU! It's not that hard. If you are not doing anything illegal, SHOW IT!

But then, there are so very many people who go about daily business who do not even carry ID with them! Stupid people who get in a car WITHOUT their ID - happens more than we think. Try travelling in a foreign country where you need to carry a passport on your person at all times.

And for suppression? It's not the pitiful illegals who are so suppressed - what about the poor Seniors on the poorly paid monthly Social Security Checks who have a hard time living on their fixed income and cannot demand their substantial increase as the Fast Food people who think they deserve $15.00 an hour? These illegals are living BETTER than the Seniors who have worked hard their entire life!

Suppression? HA! The folks in their 60's, specifically a white Christian Male, Married (to a woman) and a smoker, who is unable to get gainful employment! THAT'S Suppression! That's discrimination - on all counts!

Maybe we would have better elected officials IF the Voting Commission would DEMAND to PROVE U.S. Citizenship and "No Voter's Card = No Vote" period! We are getting too lax and too non-vigilant as a whole - a country of people wanting something for nothing; a country of complainers who do not take a stand but continually complain amongst themselves 'how bad and unfair things are.'
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2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 2:12:51 PM

jdhelm, Sarcasm. I agree with you 100%
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 1:57:56 PM

"The illegals are suppressed"

Good.
But its not like they had a valid vote to begin with. Yet a very small minority of very liberal democrats don't seem to get this.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 1:56:06 PM

I suggested a central federal database to check work eligibility/SSN and a $1000 dollar per day employer-paid fine per worker for those caught working here illegally. That would include Democratic lawmakers' live-in housekeeper/nanny as well as big companies.

Go legit or go home!
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 1:51:52 PM

2ovrpar - "The illegals are suppressed."

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The illegals around here are not suppressed. There are several who've had over 6 traffic tickets in the past 2 years for driving without a valid driver license, and even more arrested for using a false ID/SS number to work at meat packing plants.

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They don't seem to get deported, and they just come back to work with a different name/ss number. The plant owner and manager should be put in jail AND deport the illegals.

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2ovrpar
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 1:14:16 PM

The illegals are suppressed.
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 1:13:05 PM

Voter Suppression? Remind me again who exactly is suppressed by a Voter ID law and why.
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 12:09:54 PM

I know what worrys problem is.
Voter fraud it harder these days and only republicans are smart enough to get away with it now.

"koolaid drinkers are the ones that went first when jim jones said drink."

Glad to be rid of them too.
Kookaid drinkers are the most useful kind of "useful idiot".
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 5:16:08 AM

There is far more voter suppression going on than voter fraud.
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Proof?

We saw evidence of this first hand in our area...
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 4:01:50 AM

People who believe anything they are told. people who refuse to change there minds when confronted with facts.
a koolaid drinker is the liberal democrat who is liberal because they are told they should be. they have made no attempt to decide why the are liberal.
often a "koolaid drinker" simply wants to hate anything a republican does good or bad.
koolaid people are the vocal howard dean wing of the democrat party. the converse of rightwing loonies.
koolaid drinkers are the ones that went first when jim jones said drink.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 12:47:12 AM

There is far more voter suppression going on than voter fraud. Between voter ID and big money buying seats Republicans have finally found away to get past their horrible platform and win some elections.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 11:45:26 PM

Pirate,
There is ONLY Republican voter fraud, because all those illegal Democratic voters are only doing what's right.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 11:44:00 PM

Maria, worryfree long ago ceased to be objective about ANYTHING connected to politics. On the bright side, he and cliff usually give me the Dem talking points quite succinctly.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 7:27:07 PM

So are the Democrats saying there is NO voter fraud or are they NOT saying there IS voter Fraud???
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 6:57:58 PM

Worry,,,,dO you hear yourself??? "If requiring voter ID resulted in fewer votes for Republicans NONE of you cons would support it. none "

That is like saying you know it is happening now and favors the Dems getting more votes. I believe you have it right. If there is no harm in ID's why would you be against it. How many of your other ID's have you protested...and did your protest work.
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hero4hire
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 11:17:50 AM

As a registered Dem, I cannot see a problem with a voter ID card system. What's wrong with it? My fellow Dem opponents of voter ID can't be serious about the lame reasons they keep giving.
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 9:50:27 AM

"If requiring voter ID resulted in fewer votes for Republicans NONE of you cons would support it. none "

I believe in following the law.
I know democrats don't quite work that way, as you are proof of this.
Thousands of illegal acts have have been stopped and you are still the only one complaining about it.
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 6:04:22 AM

If requiring voter ID resulted in fewer votes for Republicans NONE of you cons would support it. none
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Sorry, we just want responsible, eligible folks to vote....
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 2:23:41 AM

If requiring voter ID resulted in fewer votes for Republicans NONE of you cons would support it. none
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 1:51:12 PM

I noticed that "Entering a Federal Building" wasn't on that list. I think the LEFT is trying to convince us that certain minorities are not smart enough to obtain a FREE VOTER ID. I just don't buy this. Since Georgia's Voter ID laws went into effect two Presidential Elections have passed. The minority vote turnout has been higher in both of those elections.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:58:35 PM

oilpan, ""If one has to show an ID to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, why shouldn't they have to show their ID to exercise the right to vote?"

"Thats an example of republicans blocking democrat votes."

So only republicans own guns?

So the democrats call on more gun control, showing ID for gun purchases and ammo is an example of democrats blocking legal ownership of guns?
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:13:08 PM

Minorities voting en masse
Extended day of voting hours
Early voting
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Nothing wrong with any of this...and I don't think Republicans consider these illegal..

As long as they are registered properly and show a valid ID!
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:10:16 PM

Voting should require an ID-period!

Anyone who doesn't agree is corrupt... Also PERIOD!

(And needs to be out of office!)
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:03:43 PM

"Every state that has enacted voter ID has seen reduction in votes for Democrats"

Thousands of criminal acts have been stopped and you are the only one complaining. Hmmm

"In Mexico you need a picture ID to vote...then they put an X by your name after they examine your ID. They then put an ink stain on your finger that does not wash off for one week. Makes voter fraud seem unlikely.

We might ask....why is the USA so afraid of voter registration?? "

Illegal here and democrats have an extreme aversion to any of mexicos common sense low tech approaches to problems.

They can stain me up with ink, I wont complain.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 11:58:51 AM

I, for one, am convinced that the fool liberal Democrats are opposing this ONLY for reasons of disenfranchisement of illegals and to perpetrate fraud. Sorry, folks. That is absolutely the ONLY reason for not supporting voter ID. And remember that "ID" doesn't always mean a driver's license or state ID. And everywhere I've ever lived, one is supposed to REGISTER to vote before the actual vote. If you cannot or will not register, then I'm not understanding why all of a sudden you should be allowed to vote at the poll without preregistering? Showing enough interest to pick a party, or NO PARTY (such as myself) is a pretty minimal prerequisite, IMHO.
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hero4hire
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 11:55:07 AM

I do not see what is wrong with voter ID cards. It doesn't at all stop my grandma or her friends from voting, they all have some type of photo id they use. It doesn't seem to deter them from any rights.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 11:51:58 AM

"Some examples of the republican definition of illegal voting:"

Minorities voting en masse
Extended day of voting hours
Early voting

Sarcasm off
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 11:44:06 AM

"If one has to show an ID to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, why shouldn't they have to show their ID to exercise the right to vote? "

"If you can't, or won't, identify yourself, why should anybody just take your word that you are so-and-so? "

How can any one think this is a bad idea?

"Registration of illegal aliens [to vote]"

Thats an example of republicans blocking democrat votes.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 10:19:06 AM

People confuse proving one has the right to vote with proving one is who he or she is actually the person he or she claims to be.
If you can't, or won't, identify yourself, why should anybody just take your word that you are so-and-so?
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 9:55:30 AM

I find it most interesting that Mexico seems to be able to have a very secure voter ID and it works. The Mexican I was talking to, when I told him how we vote in the USA, he felt that was an open invitation to cheat. He said, right out. Do the dead vote then? hahahhah

He never misses voting and he is of extreme poverty...he takes the time from selling on the beach, and votes.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 7:02:53 AM

If one has to show an ID to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights, why shouldn't they have to show their ID to exercise the right to vote?
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 7:01:43 AM

worryfree, "Republicons definition of "illegal voting" is "people who vote for democrats""

No, we just believe that only live, non-felon citizens that are of age should be able to vote.

The democrats believe that anyone that can get a drivers license should be able to vote and don't have to prove they can vote legally.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 2:17:56 AM

Some examples of the republican definition of illegal voting:

•Ballots filled out by dead people
•More than one ballot per person
•Registration of illegal aliens

People that are legally registered to vote and blindly utilize their one vote to blindly vote democrat is NOT illegal. Stupid perhaps, but NOT illegal.

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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 2:10:19 AM

Republicons definition of "illegal voting" is "people who vote for democrats"

But they will never admit the truth...never
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 1:29:22 AM

Suppression of illegal voting indeed!
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 1:14:34 AM

"Voter ID" is Republiconese for "voter suppression"
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