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maddog57

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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 9:04:33 AM

In the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP are calling on the black community to rise up in national protest.

Yet they know — and Barack Obama, whose silence speaks volumes, knows — nothing is going to happen.

"Stand-Your-Ground" laws in Florida and other states are not going to be repealed. George Zimmerman is not going to be prosecuted for a federal "hate crime" in the death of Trayvon Martin.

The result of all this ginned-up rage that has produced vandalism and violence is simply going to be an ever-deepening racial divide.

It's Time To Address The Real Problem

[Edited by: maddog57 at 7/19/2013 9:06:24 AM EST]
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: May 30, 2014 12:13:53 PM

Did you all have a safe and quiet Memorial Day?
If so, you probably weren't anywhere near These cities: Cincinnati, Chicago, Cleveland, Indianapolis (500), Memphis, Baltimore, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Providence, or Myrtle Beach.
 
 
Read it, or not. Ignoring it won't change the truth.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2014 2:34:47 AM

I will through in number four. I had a mechanic who was on his cell phone more that we was under the hood working. He had been on the phone so long he had to connect to building power. I told him it was time to get off the phone and get back to work. He got one inch from my face and asked “what are you going to do if I don’t.” I should have fired him on the spot but decided not to and wrote him up. His only defense was “this has nothing to do with the phone you know what its about.” I said no I don’t what is this about. His response was “Its because I’m black.”
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2014 1:52:39 AM

The reason I have a problem with the over use of the cry of discrimination is I have been a victim of it three times.

1. I made the mistake of opening a door for a female soldier and let her proceed in front of me. The official charge was, "Implication through action that a female soldier is incapable of opening a door for herself." I had also opened the door for many other people, male and female, in the past. But she took exception to it.

2. We had a pilot who as the north end of a south bound mule and though the maintenance personal we scum because we weren't officers. He had no reservations in letting everyone know this. I made the comment that they can teach a chimp to fly this thing but that chimp can't be taught to fix it. I didn't stop to think about the fact he was black. That cost me a visit from the EEOC officer and a trip to the C.O.'s office. Fortunately that was common and well known attitude about our self important pilots and not the first time it had been said regardless of color.

3. I was waxing a floor. I had thrown down globs of paste wax with the intention of spreading them with a buffer. A person walked threw the door and I told him to watch his step as he missed a glob of wax by about an inch. I said boy you almost stepped in it. I didn't say boy with any emphasis on the word boy or intend it to be derogatory. It was said like "oh boy" but I just said boy. The next thing I know he's yelling at me for calling him boy.

Then you add in the fabrications we saw in the Zimmerman trial and the refusal to prosecute hate crimes like the one in Sanford Florida. Then if you look at my personal experience with this stuff you can see why I'm a little skeptical when I hear race thrown out every time you turn on a light.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2014 1:12:51 AM

"The problem is the battle cry of discrimination has been so overused that it’s starting to sound like the little boy who cried wolf."


And before the age of cellphone cameras and dashboard cameras, all of the charges of police brutality and abuses were dismissed as people crying wolf too.

And now that there is tons of video evidence, racists STILL defend the police when the video evidence clearly shows abuse...that happens with racists too.

SMH
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2014 10:50:35 PM

In my school of hard knocks educated mind one of the biggest problems with race relations is the fact that the charge racism has been over used. If someone disagrees with the president he is accused of being racist. The supporters of Obama can’t fathom the idea that someone may disagree simply because they think Obama is wrong or disagree with his ideology. If someone disagrees with illegal immigration they are accused of being racist. The supporters won’t even talk about the fact that the people who are here in violation of the laws of the land are breaking the law. People who thought that Sotomayor was a bad choice for the U.S. Supreme Court got the double whammy being accused of being not only racist but sexist to boot. It could never be because she is about as liberal as you can get and supports the idea of Social Justice. A man who looks white shoots a kid in what was either self defense or wasn’t. Not only was it blown into a race issue evidence of racism was manufactured.

To make it worse examples of racism against whites is ignored or treated differently than it would have been if the colors were reversed. In some cases it is even institutionalized. Affirmative action is a prime example. Another is enforcement of hate crime laws.

I’m not saying that there aren’t still racists out there, there are and there will always be. The problem is the battle cry of discrimination has been so overused that it’s starting to sound like the little boy who cried wolf. How many times have we seen a story posted here about something that happened between two different ethnic people and the first thing we hear is it was about race or worse someone will say “how long until race is thrown out there” and before you can respond its already in the press. If the race baiters can't find anything racist then what was said was code for (fill in a phrase) ending with the word racist.

All this does is cover the true racist actions that need to be addressed and make it harder to get people to listen to the true racist events.


[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 4/23/2014 10:50:55 PM EST]
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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2014 1:10:25 AM

When they say they want a national dialogue on race, they really mean they want an opportunity to brand their opponents as racist so they can score political points. Liberals don't even pretend to listen what Conservatives say, no matter what the words, it's "code" for racism.

How can you have a conversation with someone who has no intention of listening or accepting even the possibility that you mean what you say?
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2014 6:17:21 PM

A conservative viewpoint
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>>>Everyone always says that they want a national dialogue about race, but what they really seem to want is a national lecture where a liberal mouths politically correct platitudes -- and everyone else is welcome to either nod along or shut up out of fear that they'll be called a racist for daring to have an opinion contrary to left-wing doctrine.
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Most white Americans are not racists: I grew up in a small town in North Carolina and I've had the opportunity to talk to everyone from business executives to redneck country boys and the honest-to-God truth is that most white Americans are not racists.
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Blacks are, on average, more racist than whites: As we've seen in the Democratic primary this year, black Americans are much more likely to vote for a person based on his skin color than white Americans. Also, most black Americans tend to think it's ok to belong to race-based organizations like the NAACP, while white Americans hold race-based groups like the KKK in disdain.
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It's not racist to be scared of young black men on the street: There's a reason people tend to be more nervous about young black men than young white men: it's that "blacks are nearly 13 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites."
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Affirmative Action does enormous damage to black Americans: Ostensibly, Affirmative Action is supposed to be helpful to black Americans, but it's actually incredibly damaging.
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Black Americans today sometimes benefit because of their race: Sure, black Americans may occasionally have to confront racism. But, black Americans can -- and often do -- benefit from their race as well.
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Racism is no longer one of the three biggest problems that black Americans face: For much of American history, racism was THE problem that black Americans had to deal with.

However today, there are much bigger issues -- like, for example, the 70% illegitimacy rate amongst black Americans. Then there is the victimhood mentality pushed by people making a living off of racial grievances. How many black Americans have given up on their dreams because they've been convinced by race hucksters that the deck is stacked against them? You could also point to the extraordinary amount of crime in many black communities which is committed not by white racists, but by young black men. <<<

There seems to be a grain of truth here....
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 1:24:56 AM


The judges were clearly racists too.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 12:47:07 PM

Anybody else see something wrong here?
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>>>Several college debate clubs that feature members preoccupied with minority issues have decided the traditional tournament format promotes white privilege. They have responded by refusing to play by the official rules, ignoring time limits and rebutting their opponents with rap and spoken-word poetry.

Fawning, sympathetic, liberal judges have of course rewarded such antics.

The most recent example came from the March 24th Cross Examination Debate Association, where two Towson University students — identified as black females by The Atlantic – won the championship. The students were challenged to debate presidential war powers. Instead, they insisted on discussing the supposed war on black communities being waged by the U.S. government.
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Nortwestern University debate coach Aaron Hardy was perturbed by the erosion of structure in the debates, and tried to organize an informal tournament where all participants would agree to follow the posted rules and debate the actual topic.

Efforts to organize this tournament were derided as racist, and Hardy was forced to abandon his plan.

“This is the power of racial subordination: making the viewpoint of the dominant group seem like the only true reality,” said Osagie Obasogie, a law professor at the University of California, Hastings College of Law, in a statement.

Hardy maintained that rules and structure are not inherently racist.

“Having minimal rules is not something that reflects a middle-class white bias,” he said in a statement. “I think it is wildly reductionist to say that black people can’t understand debate unless there is rap in it — it sells short their potential.”<<<

Lets see here now - they want to be on the debate team but refuse to follow the rules established for the "sport". And somehow that is supposed to be acceptable????

Apply that to other sports or teams and lets see if people agree with it.

If I was one of the so called judges I would have disqualified the teams who refused to follow the established rules.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 1:22:36 AM


flyboyUT, "So called reverse racism is just as repugnant as any other form of racism - or it should be"

With all due respect, there is no such thing as "reverse racism", there is only racism - regardless of who is the racist and who is the target.

The act of racism is independent of skin color.

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Panama19
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 1:19:05 AM


RNorm, good link. The boys made better sense than the advisor.

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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 12:29:37 AM

There's a good point there AC. Admitting students who score lower generally leads to poor results - they lack the study skills and ability to keep up. Dropout rates are higher, and they struggle. It doesn't do any good to put unprepared people in direct competition (for grades) with good students. What's really needed is a HARD college prep course of studies.

Michigan can be tough (depending on major). I have both Bachelor's and Master's degrees from there.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 7:58:48 PM

AC - I think Norm's link was great - unfortunately only the bad stuff seems to get the publicity. The majority of people who are good folks need to be praised much more often.

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AC-302
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 7:40:03 PM

RNorm - that was inspiring. I only hope that among black young people, and all young people that what you posted becomes the "norm" (no pun intended) for folks to look up to, rather than these rap thugs and "gangstas".

As to the college admission, I also agree that admission has to be based on a reasonable standard. If standardized testing tends to show that you need a minimum score to have a high percentage chance of graduating, then the person should need to meet that score, regardless of race, creed or color. When I went to college, the stated minimum to get into the school of engineering was something like 24 on the ACT. Liberal Arts and Sciences - only 19. And back then, they were sometimes excusing as much as 10 points off that standard if you were "ethnic" (ie - non-white, any other race). IT seemed to me at the time that it wasn't fair to everyone, not even to the person matriculating. After all, if you had low score, how could you possibly hope to compete at a hard college?
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Pard
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 6:32:26 PM

Just wonder which 'plantation' she's referring to? Has she been manumitted? Or is she a runaway? Or is all that just good sounding excuses for bad behavior?
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 1:50:49 PM

Who is the racist here?
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>>>Activists with the radical pro-affirmative action group, By Any Means Necessary, staged a protest on Tuesday featuring a black Detroit high school student who was denied admission to the University of Michigan.

The student, Brooke Kimbrough, claimed UM rejected her because of her “morals,” and not her below-average ACT score of 23. (The average U-M student has a score between 28 and 32.)

“I believe that I have been rejected because of the morals that I stand for,” said Kimbrough, according to Fox 2 news. “I will take back my freedom as a tool to help others. I have left the plantation to get my freedom but I am coming back for you, too. I will make it my civic duty to document every news of a rejection letter that the university produces to our black, brown and red bodies.”<<<

So she scores lower than needed on the test to show qualifications to attend the college and she demands she be admitted because she is "nonwhite".

She is every bit as racist as anyone demanding that different people use different water fountains.

What happened to the dream of people will be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin? What happened to the idea that merit means something?

IMHO this lady is a flaming racist equal to Lester Maddox or David Duke or any of them Kluxers.

So called reverse racism is just as repugnant as any other form of racism - or it should be.

I suppose she will demand to be a brain surgeon because she is a female black person --- regardless of the idea that she is not qualified......
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 11:34:42 AM

"Black male students at Illinois’ Central High School put together “Suit & Tie in the 217? to offer a counter-narrative for young black men. For Black History Month, they released a video of students dressed to the nines with the messages “we are not gangsters and thugs,” “we are employees and volunteers,” “we are scholars” and “we are athletes.”

“The negative stories told daily in the media and in our culture about our young African-American men tend to ignore their successes and don’t tell the full story about how young Black men are becoming leaders within our community schools,” said Central High counselor Tiffany Gholson, who worked with the students on the effort. “In this video, our students reclaim the narrative of who they are and inspire other students to follow in their footsteps.”


Suit and Tie in the 217
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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 1:35:41 AM

I think George Washington (and the other founders) had a different definition of "liberal" than Obama/Pelosi/Reid et. al. In those days, a liberal was someone who didn't believe in the divine right of kings.

Not crazy about your definition of "addictions," but if you wanted to start a flame ware, OK.
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2014 12:14:18 PM

. George Washington said the more liberal the USA becomes, the better it becomes...

. We all know the problem with most Americans is ADDICTIONS, not 'liberalism'... The Six Big Addictions: drug addiction, religion addiction/psychosis, homosexuality addiction, sloth/couch potato addiction, obesity addiction, greed addiction... and etc. smaller ones...
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2014 8:38:49 AM

"Liberalism is a mental disease that affects people of all colors. It just so happens that a huge percentage of blacks allowed themselves to get infected with it. "


What a bunch of crap...But no surprise that some around here believe such nonsense.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2014 8:26:27 AM

>> Liberalism is a mental disease that affects people of all colors. It just so happens that a huge percentage of blacks allowed themselves to get infected with it. <<

Amen....
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 9:09:45 PM

flyboyUT said: "Will the folks who were so upset at Zimmerman say boo about this instance of "improper conduct"?"

No, but if Waggoner had shot back and killed one of them, you can be sure they'd raise their voices in protest!
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 9:08:07 PM

RNorm said: "you might want to step away from the "everything is liberals' fault, conservatives are perfect" koolaid while you're at it."

I've said it several times before...apparently you only hear what you want to hear. But let me repeat it again for you:

"Conservatives aren't perfect, but liberals are complete disasters"

We've seen enough evidence throughout Obozo's reign to drive that point home, haven't we?
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 9:05:54 PM

RNorm said: "So are you saying that the Columbine Killers were black liberals and all the rest of these school shooters are black liberals?"

Well, THERE'S a stretch of the imagination if we ever saw it, eh?

Liberalism is a mental disease that affects people of all colors. It just so happens that a huge percentage of blacks allowed themselves to get infected with it.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2014 10:26:56 AM


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>>>According to WHIO, Waggoner, 49, parked his bus on Lakeview Avenue in Dayton after it stopped running. While outside of the bus assessing the problem, Waggoner was approached by three teens who said they had to "shoot a polar bear," police said.

Three shots were fired, one striking Waggoner in the leg and the other two hitting the bible in his pocket. The teens also stabbed him in the left arm, police said.<<<
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Will the folks who were so upset at Zimmerman say boo about this instance of "improper conduct"?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 9:23:48 AM

"It's the result of liberal ideology being pushed on people"


So are you saying that the Columbine Killers were black liberals and all the rest of these school shooters are black liberals?

Dude, what are you smoking? Also, you might want to step away from the "everything is liberals' fault, conservatives are perfect" koolaid while you're at it.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 9:08:59 AM

RNorm said: "That kind of problem has NOTHING to do with liberal or conservatives ideas or leaders. It has to do with a lack of basic parenting."

While I agree that lack of basic parenting is the core problem, it is naive to believe that that lack came out of nowhere.

It's the result of liberal ideology being pushed on people.

Planned Parenthood teaches people that children are hindrances that can be conveniently disposed of.

Most prominent black leaders (NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Obozo, etc.) continually try to focus the blame for abhorrent black behavior on white people.

"It's the white man who won't give me a job because I'm black and he doesn't like the fact that I can't speak proper English or my pants are hanging around my knees. It's not my fault."

"It was Zimmerman's fault for defending himself against a rabid Trayvon. If Zimmerman wasn't armed he could have just succumbed to the beating like all the other good Knockout game victims do."

Why seek employment when the government gives away more stuff the more dependent you become? Need some more cash? Have another baby!
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 10:32:11 AM

I have posted here before about how my kids have friends that are black and while in high school those friends were accused of "acting white" by some other black kids because they were in the advanced classes. Of course I see some of the kids working at McDonalds, Walmart, Burger King, etc today while my kids and their friends have all graduated or are about to graduate college. That "acting white" thing worked out pretty good for them it appears!
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 10:21:45 AM


Dependency, Not Poverty

"The Census Bureau pegs the poverty rate among blacks at 35 percent and among whites at 13 percent. The illegitimacy rate among blacks is 72 percent, and among whites it's 30 percent. A statistic that one doesn't hear much about is that the poverty rate among black married families has been in the single digits for more than two decades, currently at 8 percent. For married white families, it's 5 percent. Now the politically incorrect questions: Whose fault is it to have children without the benefit of marriage and risk a life of dependency? Do people have free will, or are they governed by instincts?

No one can blame a person if he starts out in life poor, because how one starts out is not his fault. If he stays poor, he is to blame because it is his fault. Avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. First, graduate from high school. Second, get married before you have children, and stay married. Third, work at any kind of job, even one that starts out paying the minimum wage. And finally, avoid engaging in criminal behavior. It turns out that a married couple, each earning the minimum wage, would earn an annual combined income of $30,000. The Census Bureau poverty line for a family of two is $15,500, and for a family of four, it's $23,000. By the way, no adult who starts out earning the minimum wage does so for very long"

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Panama19
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 2:17:26 AM


Portland African American Leadership Forum sends blistering letter with demands on MLK Trader Joe's project

"The Portland African American Leadership Forum sent a blistering email to PDC leaders and Mayor Charlie Hales Wednesday demanding the urban renewal agency suspend the Trader Joe's development and all tax-increment-financed projects in the Interstate Corridor urban renewal area.

The lot is currently vacant and has been for years.

The Trader Joe's development will increase displacement of low-income residents and 'increase the desirability of the neighborhood,' for 'non-oppressed populations,' PAALF wrote"

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worryfree
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 1:43:16 AM

Bill Bennett

“I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down”
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2014 1:18:57 AM

"The answer is pretty simple: when your leaders push the liberal ideas that everybody ELSE owes you something, your children grow up with this spoiled-brat mentality that causes them to shun civilized behavior and act like animals."


That kind of problem has NOTHING to do with liberal or conservatives ideas or leaders. It has to do with a lack of basic parenting.

But of course, you would make that into something liberals do...but hey, Columbine was perpetrated by rich white conservatives who's parents also failed to parent (indeed most of these crazy school shootings are done by whites who didn't seem to get basic respect for other lessons at home).

SMH
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 9:22:15 PM

The Florida State Fair opened for business last week. But not for long...it was forced to close early because of "wilding", black mobs running rampant, attacking & stealing...just out of control. The police couldn't contain it after ejecting 99 people and arresting 12. 97 of the 99 ejected were blacks. (As one person sarcastically commented "see? they weren't ALL black!")

I first found the article on TBO.com, but it wouldn't respond awhile ago, so I found this article that not only detailed the FL State Fair opening, but has references to similar "events" in Milwaukee, Iowa, Baltimore and Indianapolis.

The TBO article has since been "updated", but it had quoted a black pastor asking "where did we go wrong?"

The answer is pretty simple: when your leaders push the liberal ideas that everybody ELSE owes you something, your children grow up with this spoiled-brat mentality that causes them to shun civilized behavior and act like animals.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 12:40:51 PM

The problem isnt 'white racism' its more 'liberal racism'
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>>>Associate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas said Monday that people today are more race-conscious and politically correct than ever before, and that he has endured far worse treatment at the hands of northern liberals than supposedly racist southerners.

Thomas, who is currently the only black member of the Supreme Court, made his remarks on race during a speech at Palm Beach Atlantic University, according to Yahoo News’ Chris Moody. Contrary to the stereotype of southerners as racist, Thomas said he has overcome more discrimination in the North than in the South.

“The worst I have been treated was by northern liberal elites,” he said. “The absolute worst I have ever been treated. The worst things that have been done to me, the worst things that have been said about me, by northern liberal elites, not by the people of Savannah, Georgia.”<<<

Guess we gonna have to stat calling them Northern elites "Saltines".....
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 4:57:48 AM

It's the leadership walking in lockstep with thedemocrats.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 10:08:05 PM

"In reference to the University of Minnesota posts I do not see why that is even a liberal vs. conservative issue.In reference to the University of Minnesota posts I do not see why that is even a liberal vs. conservative issue."


Well, sadly for some people, EVERYTHING is a liberal vs. conservative issue...Which is why its not worth responding to most of the threads these days.

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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 7:49:27 PM

In reference to the University of Minnesota posts I do not see why that is even a liberal vs. conservative issue. The fact is that innocent students are being targeted for robbery, assault and rape by local thugs who just happen to be black so far and there is this group on campus that is offended that suspect descriptions are listing the race of these criminals.

I do not even want to say that it is typical liberal BS because there are undoubtedly many liberals in this community who want these thugs off the streets just as much as any conservative does and agree that race is a important descriptive for identifying people.

If the suspects were all white males and it was in the news every day I would not be the least bit offended, nor should I be. These people need to grow up and quit crying. All they are doing is bringing more attention to the fact that it is blacks who are suspects in all these attacks.

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 12:39:26 PM

flyboy: "The model of Detroit politics is startlingly familiar in its fundamentals, distinguished only by its degree of advancement: Advance the interests of public-sector unions and politically connected business cronies, expand the relative size of the public sector remorselessly — and when opposed, cry “Racism!” When people vote with their feet, cry “Racism!” When the budget just won’t balance, cry “Racism!” "


That sounds a whole lot like the sycophants of a certain President who shall remain nameless.....


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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 12:02:26 PM

The real problem is progressiveism and those who refuse to look at the consequences of their illogical wishes.
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>>>Detroit represents nothing less than progressivism in its final stage of decadence: Worried that unionized public-sector workers are looting your city? Detroit is already bankrupt, unable to provide basic services expected of it — half the streetlights don’t work, transit has been reduced, neighborhoods go unpatrolled. Worried that public-sector unions are ruining your schools? Detroit’s were ruined a generation or more ago, the results of which are everywhere to be seen in the city. Worried that Obamacare is going to ruin our health-care markets? General-practice physicians are hard to find in Detroit, and those willing to accept Medicaid — which covers a great swath of Detroit’s population — are rarer still. Worried about the permissive culture? Four out of five of Detroit’s children are born out of wedlock. Worried that government is making it difficult for businesses to thrive? Many people in Detroit have to travel miles to find a grocery store. This is the endgame of welfare economics: What good is Medicaid if there are no doctors? What good are food stamps where there is no food? What good are “free” schools if you’re so afraid to send your children there that you feel it prudent to arm them first?

Detroit is what Democrats do. The last Republican elected mayor of Detroit took office during the Eisenhower administration. The decay of Detroit is not the inevitable outcome of the decline of the automotive industry: The automotive industry is thriving in the United States — but not in Detroit. It isn’t white flight: The black middle class has left Detroit as fast as it can. The model of Detroit politics is startlingly familiar in its fundamentals, distinguished only by its degree of advancement: Advance the interests of public-sector unions and politically connected business cronies, expand the relative size of the public sector remorselessly — and when opposed, cry “Racism!” When people vote with their feet, cry “Racism!” When the budget just won’t balance, cry “Racism!” Never mind that the current mayor of Detroit is the first non–African American to hold that job since the 1970s, or that, as one Detroit News columnist put it, “black nationalism . . . is now the dominant ideology of the [city] council” — somewhere, there must be a somebody else to blame, preferably: aged, portly, white, male, and Republican. No less a fool than Ed Schultz blamed the straits of this exemplar of Democratic single-party rule on “a lot of Republican policies.” Melissa Harris-Perry, “America’s leading public intellectual,” blames Detroit’s problems on its conservatism and small government, oblivious to the fact that Detroit maintains twice as many city employees per resident as do larger cities such as Fort Worth and Indianapolis, and three times as many as liberal San Jose.<<<

When will liberals ever be held accountable for what they have done to destroy whole cities and cultures?

When will a culture say ENOUGH and start voting for freedom and responsibility instead of a nanny state to take care of them. TANSTAAFL people!!!!!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 11:59:29 AM

af: "Unfortunately that is an upward trend across our country and not just in any one race. Our family values are slipping across the board."


That's true. What's really striking about the statistics concerning single parent households is how well it correlates to the children's eventual success or failure in life. Asian households have the lowest rate of single parent households, and their children also have on average the highest test scores, the lowest chance of having a criminal record, and average the best economic success later in life.


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[Edited by: mudtoe at 2/2/2014 11:59:26 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 11:54:37 AM

"Unfortunately that is an upward trend across our country and not just in any one race. Our family values are slipping across the board."


Well, at least you're honest enough to acknowledge that its not an black only problem...despite that lie being proffered by so many around here.
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 11:49:49 AM

The new thing here in Montgomery is war within the entertainment industry. You have a pretty robust local rap industry and they have been shooting and killing each other outside the clubs at closing time. A few weeks ago 2 rappers were killed in a drive-by shooting and it turns out it was a rival entertainer (a third bystander was killed also). Two nights ago someone hit another club where the shooter from the other murder used to entertain in what they believe is a retaliation. Luckily nobody was killed this time but there were 6 people shot...all just patrons of that club and were shot because they went there. Sad...

BTW, 6 murders already in Montgomery this calendar year and all 6 are black-on-black crimes. This is a city that is about 50/50 when it comes black to white but the crime numbers are crazy in the black community...especially violent crime. The churches have tried to get involved but it is just getting worse and not better. The pastor I have been working with the inner city kids is getting afraid himself because he is afraid that he is taking kids that could be put into the gangs and run drugs for them. But he is not quitting...he will keep working and I will also along with my girlfriend. If we save just one kid from this violence we have done the right thing. Our singing group does little local concerts and we are trying to show them there is more to life than the gangs...but I feel we are losing.
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 11:42:24 AM

"All the research shows that the one of the worst things you can do to a child to drastically lower their chances at future success in life is to raise them in a single parent household."

Unfortunately that is an upward trend across our country and not just in any one race. Our family values are slipping across the board.

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 2:44:51 AM

"War in Iraq and Afghanistan --- $ One Trillion"


Hmm...you kinda left out the 4,400+ american dead, 50,000+ wounded and the continued costs for veterans care from those wars...just like a conservative to beat their chests over Saddam being put down, and then forget about the troops when all is said and done. Indee, was Saddam's life truly worth the 4,400 lost in that effort? I think not.

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 12:58:56 AM


mudtoe, bingo.
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 12:14:54 AM

War in Iraq and Afghanistan --- $ One Trillion

War on Poverty --- $ Twenty Trillion, and counting......

Benefits gained from:
War on Poverty --- apparently none
War in Iraq and Afghanistan --- al Qaeda put on defensive (apparently temporarily), vile dictator deposed, OBL found after decade-long search, world put on notice that WE WILL defend our own safety no matter where it takes us.

Liberal cluelessness is still Priceless, although extremely costly!

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 2/2/2014 12:15:47 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 8:38:07 PM

""Do you really think that a conservative will ever actually look at the consequences of the ideas they have and what they have received for spending literally trillions of other peoples money? "


You mean like the wars waged on credit in Iraq and Afghanistan??

Nope, they'll forever justify them and insist they both were necessary (tho a case COULD be made for Afghanistan) and the world is safer now, even though Al Queda has a tighter stronghold on in Iraq country (which they'll always blame on Obama)...

Conservatives are the 1st to moan and whine about the country going broke, but are the FIRST to run to wage wars on credit in places where we don't belong.

How stupid...but it is what it is.
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 7:55:09 PM

mudtow - you have hit the target it seems
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 7:46:14 PM

flyboy: "Do you really think that a liberal will ever actually look at the consequences of the ideas they have and what they have received for spending literally trillions of other peoples money? "


No, of course not, but then again their agenda was never about helping people, other than themselves, at least that's how those at the top of the left see things. Strange as it sounds, in my opinion the most honest liberals are those at the bottom who are voting left in order to receive freebies. At least they are up front and honest about their motives. The rest of the left IMHO has a hidden agenda, whether it's to get power and wealth for themselves (think Al Gore, and the democrat politicians, or people like Jackson and Sharpton who profit from negative emotions), or to cause harm to those whom they hate and envy (I think several posters here fit into that category).


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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 5:40:32 PM

mudtoe - what are the chances that you will ever get a liberal to believe that and accept it.

Do you really think that a liberal will ever actually look at the consequences of the ideas they have and what they have received for spending literally trillions of other peoples money?
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