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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 9:19:29 PM

"There were 4 Americans murdered in Benghazi…and yes, it was terrorism. There were 4 Americans murdered at the Boston marathon…and yes, it was terrorism. I am glad the Administration put all the resources it did into finding the bombers in Boston – it was important. The Administration did exactly right in investigating in Boston (the jury is still out on what the Administration did or did not do before the bombing.) But why are our 4 murdered Americans in Benghazi not so important? I think they are." Greta Van Susteren

I still care.....what are we doing about the men we identified (???) that killed Americans in Benghazi?

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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 12:01:04 PM

It really won't matter if she turns over the server to be examined because I'm virtually certain that they won't find anything. Given that they had time and control of the server, it's very easy to make sure that there is no forensic evidence left. It can be done in just a few easy steps:

1). Delete all the emails you want to go away, or better yet move everything to the deleted items folder and then cherry pick some things to put back in your inbox (doing it this way makes sure you don't accidentally miss anything that needs to be deleted).

2). Empty deleted items folder.

3). Backup the email account using backup software that only transfers things from the mailbox itself (i.e. it doesn't backup the entire mail server database or anything that has been deleted).

4). Take down the server, remove the hard drive(s) containing the mail server database, and destroy them.

5). Install brand new empty hard drive(s) into the server and initialize a new mail server database.

6). Restore the emails backed up in step 3 to the email server.

7). Destroy all hard drives containing any backups of the email server taken prior to step 5.


Now all that the mail server server database contains are the emails you want it to have and there are no remains of deleted emails for any forensic analysis because they were never on that database in the first place, and the backups of that prior database containing incriminating emails are also gone. I'm 100% certain that's what the Clinton's had done, given that they had time to make it happen and had control of the hard drives, plus they had the fresh lesson Lois Lerner's IRS emails to remind them of the need to make sure that no forensic information or backups remain.


mudtoe



[Edited by: mudtoe at 3/31/2015 12:04:20 PM EST]
AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 11:42:04 AM



Things could get a little hot in the kitchen for Hillary as she bakes cookies!

ROTFL

Benghazi panel summons Clinton

"A House panel Tuesday formally requested Hillary Clinton to testify about the private server and email account she used while serving as secretary of state.

Rep. Trey Gowdy, chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi, sent a request to Clinton's personal attorney, David E. Kendall, requesting that Clinton appear before the committee no later than May 1 for a transcribed interview about the server and email.

The request comes after Kendall told Gowdy that the server had been wiped clean and that it would be impossible to recover the 30,000 emails Clinton deleted last year.

Gowdy, in his request to Kendall, also asked Clinton to "reconsider" her refusal to turn over the server to a neutral third party, which he called "highly unusual, if not unprecedented.""

How do we KNOW that Hillary turned over all her relevant emails.

Hillary said, "TRUST ME", that is how we know!

ROTFL

daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 11:18:59 AM

what difference does it make?? Hillarybenghazi
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 11:16:11 AM

"We all know you love to respond in kind words around here...!

Are you saying your constant derogatory (and incorrect) comments constantly spewed against Hillary are kind?

Interesting.
PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2015 9:28:10 AM

Hillary "What does it matter now" Clinton
Here you go Weasel
We all know you love to respond in kind words around here...!
daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 6:26:19 PM

Hillarybenghazi what difference does it make?
EZExit
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 5:10:04 PM

I dare Clinton to ask "what difference does it make?" when asked about purging improperly kept government correspondence.
AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 5:04:01 PM



flyboy, now there is a perfect commercial that should start running today and run every day until Election Day 2016!

flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 4:52:16 PM

Well if there were any doubts this should clear things right up
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 4:50:07 PM

POLITICIANS - CORRUPT to the core.

There, fixed it for A1.
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 4:36:10 PM

"More than that, virtually everyone on the dole, if they vote, will vote democrat in order to maximize their chances of staying on the gravy train. Romney was right about the that."

He just wasn't right about how many were on the dole to be on the dole...
AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 12:59:32 PM



nraacct, "a question remains: Did Clinton destroy documents that were under subpoena from Congress?"

Hillary wiped her server clean AFTER the subpoena.

That ALONE ought to earn her a rent free stay in the GrayStone Hotel!

DEMOCRATS - CORRUPT to the core.

nraacct
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 12:09:28 PM

Now that the public knows Hillary Clinton destroyed all the emails on her secret server — her lawyer told the House Benghazi Select Committee that there's nothing left to search — a question remains: Did Clinton destroy documents that were under subpoena from Congress?

The long, complicated story of Hillary Clinton's Benghazi subpoena
mudtoe
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 11:17:19 AM

mxm: "They just want a democrat and a woman, absolutely no thought beyond that."


More than that, virtually everyone on the dole, if they vote, will vote democrat in order to maximize their chances of staying on the gravy train. Romney was right about the that.


mudtoe
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 10:56:57 AM

"Obama got elected like that the second term, ok the first also."

Some are still in denial here, it would seem.
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 10:55:41 AM

"Hillary "What does it matter now" Clinton"

*SQUAWK!*
mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 10:08:39 AM

hahhaha PopCornPirate....Clinton also very close to the same translation in Spanish...

Pantalones mentiroso mentiroso en el fuego.

Don't you just love the word Pantalones?

The thing is that the folks that will vote for Hillary care not one iota about her lying of shady deal. It says a lot about their values. They just want a democrat and a woman, absolutely no thought beyond that. Birds of a feather gather together.

Obama got elected like that the second term, ok the first also. Morals do not matter, it is their political view that matters. I call it "flocking". "But what does it matter" to anyone.
daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 9:36:36 AM

hillarybenghazi
PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 9:24:06 AM

I could be wrong but...
Doesn't the word CLINTON in Latin mean......."Liar, Liar, Pants On Fire"
Or for Hillary gets the the female version..."Liar, Liar, pantsuit on Fire"
mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2015 12:11:31 AM

I still think Trey will be president some day. Very smart man, but slime is still slime.

"refused to relinquish her server to a neutral, detached third party for an independent review of potential public records:"...Now, does that just reek of something to hide. Smile like a Cheshire Cat Hillary, and tell a little joke and absolutely tons of the numb will rush to the pole to vote for you. They can't help themselves, just like you can't.

mweyant
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 7:42:41 PM

"In light of the Secretary’s unprecedented email arrangement with herself"

whoa

Representative Gowdy is quite the writer . . .
EZExit
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 6:39:49 PM

<<<"Washington, DC—Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy today issued the following statement regarding former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s response to the committee’s subpoena. She failed to produce a single new document and refused to relinquish her server to a neutral, detached third party for an independent review of potential public records:

“After seeking and receiving a two week extension from the Committee, Secretary Clinton failed to provide a single new document to the subpoena issued by the Committee and refused to provide her private server to the Inspector General for the State Department or any other independent arbiter for analysis.

“We learned today, from her attorney, Secretary Clinton unilaterally decided to wipe her server clean and permanently delete all emails from her personal server. While it is not clear precisely when Secretary Clinton decided to permanently delete all emails from her server, it appears she made the decision after October 28, 2014, when the Department of State for the first time asked the Secretary to return her public record to the Department.

“Not only was the Secretary the sole arbiter of what was a public record, she also summarily decided to delete all emails from her server ensuring no one could check behind her analysis in the public interest.”

“In light of the Secretary’s unprecedented email arrangement with herself and her decision nearly two years after she left office to permanently delete all emails and because the equities at stake involve not only those of the Select Committee and Congress more broadly, but also those of the American people and their right to the full record of her tenure as secretary of State, we will work with the leadership of the House of Representatives as the Committee considers next steps. But it is clear Congress will need to speak with the former Secretary about her email arrangement and the decision to permanently delete those emails.”>>>

Statement Regarding Subpoena Compliance and Server Determination by Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton

[Edited by: EZExit at 3/29/2015 6:41:34 PM EST]
daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2015 5:49:40 PM

Hillarybenghazi
daylily2009
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hillarybenghazi
PopcornPirate
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Hillary "What does it matter now" Clinton
daylily2009
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hillarybenghazi
daylily2009
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hillarybenghazi
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 1:49:15 PM

"Rather then what was best for the country. It seems it was more important to monitor fallout rather then just tell the truth. Pretty consistent with this administrations entire time in office."

And that makes this Administration any different from past Administrations, how? Seems pretty consistent with politics - period.
airfresh
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 12:15:14 PM

<<<indicate that she and her advisers were closely monitoring the political fallout for the administration>>>

Rather then what was best for the country. It seems it was more important to monitor fallout rather then just tell the truth. Pretty consistent with this administrations entire time in office.

And those emails were sent back and forth on everyone's personal email accounts as well in order to avoid the full disclosure liability of using govt servers. Govt servers are public property. But by using personal accounts they were vulnerable to a level of electronic spying the govt servers are not.

Pretty bad all the way around.

[Edited by: airfresh at 3/24/2015 12:16:00 PM EST]
daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 11:14:50 AM

hillarybenghazi
nraacct
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Hundreds of the emails from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that were turned over to Congress regarding the Benghazi terrorist attack indicate that she and her advisers were closely monitoring the political fallout for the administration.Clinton Benghazi Emails Reveal How She Monitored Fallout
daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2015 12:10:12 PM

Hillarybenghazi
btc1
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2015 8:57:42 AM

What a waste of taxpayer money. The investigations are nothing but a political gamble for the GOP.

Facts.

I still think the CIA and Amb. Stevens were operating outside the purview of the Administration in this case. That is the only thing that makes sense. Why was Stevens there when he was told not to go and did not have a strong security with him?

[Edited by: btc1 at 3/23/2015 8:59:48 AM EST]
daylily2009
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Hillarybenghazi
mweyant
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2015 11:43:03 AM

Stewart? You mean Jon Stewart, the comedian?

For facts, I'd rather access meaningful resources, such as the following(sorry it is so long):

Benghazi Consulate Attack and Diplomatic Security

The Accountability Review Board has been tasked by both political party representatives to make changes that need to be made--this is a positive item that many seem to overlook.

The coverage of Hillary Clinton's emails/server is becoming more tabloid as the days go by. Had she given up her emails right away, when asked, perhaps the media would not have seen fit to cover, with no class, Hillary Clinton's email issues, and offer almost no coverage of the changes being made in the Accountability Review Board. IMHO, that is what the Benghazi dialogue (in the press) should be addressing--the ARB.

Do they really think they'll recover her emails? Right off the bat, when they saw she wasn't using government email, it should have been brought to light by the person(s) who are in charge of issuing the email accounts, especially if it became mandatory to USE government accounts for government business while this government worker was conducting business.

[Edited by: mweyant at 3/21/2015 11:48:38 AM EST]
daylily2009
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2015 11:27:24 AM

hillarybenghazi
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2015 3:21:46 AM

Johnnyg1200. Just one problem with the scenario in your last paragraph.

Our government, controlled by Obama, and Eric Holder will not do a thing to force Hillary to give up her illegal (for what she used it for) private email server.

Now if we had an honest president and AG, well yes that would work.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2015 2:20:03 AM

I personally hope Hilary runs and wins the nomination. With Benghazi, her violation of the rules she insisted everyone else follow in regard to emails, and her funding from foreign countries hostile to the U.S. I think Mickey Mouse could beat her. And we haven't even gotten into the real campaign season yet. Democrats will bow down to her and build little shrines with candles and incense. But the independent voters will take some convincing.

By the way the government needs to stop all payments and benefits that come from the government until she either turns the server over or signs her departure documents that say she turned all communications over as required by law. It is with in the power of the government to do that and it has been done on the past to lower lever employees. Her rank and name should not protect her from the same standard as other government employees.
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2015 1:21:08 AM

"Stewart laid out Faux's dirty laundry."

Not only that but took the Fox to the woodshed, cut off its lying tale and gave it its biggest bare fur spanking in years. Yes, the fur flied and Fox will be hot to trot for weeks...
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2015 1:07:26 AM

Same old same old. The two of them should write a joint autobiography. They can title it "Cashing In."
mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2015 7:10:02 PM

Sorry, EZ, I believe Hillary and Bill's Foundation gifts will never be clear, her lies on Benghazi will never be clear, she can lie and connive and I have not met one Democrat on here (small sample of US voters) that called for Truth, and they are also spinning booing God in DNC.... Democrats do not care...they just do not care. I believe Hillary will come out smelling of horse pucky and she will run for Pres. and all Democrats here will say, "Hail, Hillary"....a good and honest woman.
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I dont think this guy loves HRC
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Watch the video and see if you agree or disagree.
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2015 4:39:07 PM

what about BENGHAZI?
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Stewart laid out Faux's dirty laundry.

Rotf
RNorm
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2015 12:08:05 PM

Jon Stewart blows it WIDE open:

The Daily Show Blasts Fox News' Double Standard In Ferguson And Benghazi Coverage


LOL, Indeed.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 1:40:42 PM

Even though Hillary's incompetence with Benghazi and subsequent coverup has been successfully washed away, I don't think that the email scandal and obvious abuse of position is cleanable. This still doesn't mean that the truth of all that transpired causing the Benghazi massacre should not be continued. The families of the loved ones as well as the American people deserve this, and demand this as well.
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 1:32:55 PM

So she did it for her convenience and she put all of us at risk.
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>>>Let's examine a few significant updates on the Hillary email scandal, starting with perhaps the most important -- but least covered -- aspect of the imbroglio: Unconscionable national security risks. In order to shield her communications from oversight and public information requests, Hillary Clinton chose to set up a private email server in her home, rather than use a secure official account. Regardless of the ethical propriety and legality of that decision (stay tuned on those points), intelligence experts believe her actions led to extraordinary breaches at the hands of foreign governments and outside entities.
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Not only did Hillary's overwhelming impulse for secrecy and contempt for accountability put her own emails at risk -- bad enough, given her role as the country's top diplomat -- it also endangered the integrity of her contacts' communications. This is unforgivable. Myopia, paranoia, arrogance and reckless incompetence, all rolled into one set of astounding revelations. By the way, just a few days ago, the State Department shut down large parts of its email system due to malware placed by Russian hackers who somehow burrowed into the network. Do we know for a fact that Hillary's insanely insecure email scheme compromised State's broader system? No. Is it a distinct possibility, given everything we know? Absolutely. How many State Department, White House, and foreign officials' sensitive emails were put at risk, or penetrated? That may forever remain an open question, especially if Hillary maintains her obstinate refusal to turn over the server. Setting aside her disregard for national security and undermining of American foreign policy, is what Hillary did illegal? Law professor Ronald Rotunda reviews the facts of the case and concludes there's a good chance she violated the law:<<<

Her desire to hide and make sure no one (except foreign hackers) ever had access to her devious documents placed all of us at risk ----- AND HILLARY JUST DOESNT GIVE A FIG FOR ANY OF THAT.
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What if Hillary just doesnt care?
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>>>What if Hillary Clinton's emails were hacked by foreign agents when she was the secretary of state? What if persons claiming to have done so are boasting about their alleged feats on Internet websites and in chat rooms traditionally associated with illegal or undercover activities? What if this is the sore underbelly of an arrogant and lawless secretary of state who used her power to exempt herself from laws that govern executive branch employees and didn't care about national security?

What if the law required Clinton to swear under oath on her first day as secretary of state that she would comply with all laws governing the use of federal records? What if the principal governing law -- the Federal Records Act of 1950 -- makes it clear that when you work for the feds all the records you receive and generate belong to the government and you cannot lawfully conceal them from the government?

What if she refused to sign such a promise because she knew she'd be violating that law?

What if the State Department has an inspector general whose job it is to assure the public and the attorney general that the secretary of state is complying with federal law? What if agents of the inspector general signed documents swearing that Clinton told them she agreed to abide by the law, and so they permitted her to have access to federal records? What if they did this because Clinton refused to sign an oath herself since she had no intention of complying with it, and because she ordered them to sign in her place?

What if the law required Clinton to swear an oath at the time she left office that she had no federal records in her possession or control? What if she signed that oath knowing that nearly all of her records were in her possession and not the government's? What if she refused to sign that oath because she knew she possessed federal records contrary to law? What if she blamed her failure to sign that oath on her own inspector general? What if the law requires the inspector general to report her refusal to sign this oath to the attorney general? What if that report was made and the attorney general looked the other way?<<<
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What is astounding is that people are seriously looking at this duplicitous lying untrustful person to be a valid contender for the office of President??????
mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 3:06:34 AM

She scratched Obama's back when she lied about Benghazi..now it is Quid Pro Quo. The Obama Adm will never stand up and help ....nothing new there...lying has come to be the art form of the Obama Adm. He does not want to truth in his memoirs, and there is much untruth in Hillary's past she does not want in her memoirs. Much for her daughter to be proud of...
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2015 1:10:46 AM

Nah, they just misspell it. Easy when you are translating from a language with a completely different alphabet.
EZExit
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2015 2:49:57 PM

I believe that Hillary probably directed that "Benghazi" was a code word for her daughter's wedding or yoga classes, so in that vein, any emails that had the word "Benghazi" in it were categorically deleted.

Just trying to think like a Clinton with a law degree...
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2015 11:37:16 AM

benghazihillary
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