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mexicomaria

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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 9:19:29 PM

"There were 4 Americans murdered in Benghazi…and yes, it was terrorism. There were 4 Americans murdered at the Boston marathon…and yes, it was terrorism. I am glad the Administration put all the resources it did into finding the bombers in Boston – it was important. The Administration did exactly right in investigating in Boston (the jury is still out on what the Administration did or did not do before the bombing.) But why are our 4 murdered Americans in Benghazi not so important? I think they are." Greta Van Susteren

I still care.....what are we doing about the men we identified (???) that killed Americans in Benghazi?

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 2:57:49 PM



Weaslespit, "Then why are you responding to my question "

Because I had the answer to a very simple question about what Jesus said and what the Bible says.

Simple enough for you?

What I said is that I am not part of your *harassment* of mexicomaria.

Is that simple enough for you as well?

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 2:32:36 PM

"I am saying that evangelists individually, try to make religion and patriotism the same for them."


Its not just that. The recent flap over the Air Force trying to force an atheist airman to acknowledge God in order to re-enlist shows that for many people you have to be "godly" to be patriotic (or at least show your patriotism by serving in the armed forces).
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 2:23:38 PM

"Go ask mexicomaria, Weaslespit.

I am not part of your harrassment of her."

Then why are you responding to my question I have asked of her, directly? Seems like I did ask mexicomaria, no?
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:31:46 PM



Go ask mexicomaria, Weaslespit.

I am not part of your harrassment of her.

And you probably couldn't understand anything she said about spiritual things anyway, as you have already proved with very clear information.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:29:25 PM

"Not my 'opinion' at all.

It is there in black and white in the Bible."

How does this help mexicomaria answer my question?
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:26:44 PM



Weaslespit, "Thanks for sharing you opinion."

Not my 'opinion' at all.

It is there in black and white in the Bible.

You should try dusting yours off and actually opening it sometime. And reading it.

Or maybe you don't even have a Bible. Someone will send you one.



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 9/22/2014 1:27:00 PM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:05:36 PM

According to their website, the Benghazi hearing can be streamed right here on C-Span2...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 12:09:24 PM

"He did not 'call' for it.

He COMMANDED it."

Thanks for sharing you opinion. Let me know if you can help get mexicomaria to answer my question...
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 11:34:36 AM

benghazihillary
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 10:47:08 AM



Weaslespit, ""Huh? I questioned your assertion that Christ calls for all Christians to be 'evangelists' (a point which you brought up) - how is that name calling?""

He did not 'call' for it.

He COMMANDED it.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 10:02:01 AM

"weasel helps me out also....thankful to the two of you. Not something I usually bring up here unless someone gives me a opening."

Still waiting for a response to this question since you are now falsely accusing me of name calling in multiple threads (how very Christian of you...);

"Huh? I questioned your assertion that Christ calls for all Christians to be 'evangelists' (a point which you brought up) - how is that name calling?"
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 9:50:58 AM

C-Span3 is offered on Verizon FiOS service like our son has in Massachusetts, but with Direct TV here it is not offered. When I went to the C-Span website it said I could stream it if I had a Direct TV password with a Direct TV account. I have not tried it yet, but in the past when we had Comcast Cable if a station was not offered in whatever package you subscribed to then you could not stream it on a computer without a code from the provider. They would not give you that code unless it was in your package.
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2014 11:50:11 AM

hillarybenghazi
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rdamurphy
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2014 11:25:09 AM

Mexicanmaria
i agree the cspan3 conspiracy is fishy and am hoping youll share your reserach link with me ASAP!!!! thats how we defeat libs by sharing good info!

thanks!!!

didnt you have any thots on not subsidising other religions like we do our own? Seems kinda important but maybe not

anyway really enjoy your comments other then the one you made about me being homasexual
i'm a sinner but thats not really funny
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2014 11:14:36 AM

hillarybenghazi
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rdamurphy
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:53:28 PM

i'm trying to find out how many people have cspan3 mexicanmaria, where did you do your research i want to look there!!!! thanks!

did you get my friend request?!?!?!!?!
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rdamurphy
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:52:17 PM

Mexicanmaria totally agree the constitution is based on the bible and gods word. Jesus died for us even Muslims and Jews tho they dont see it that way. fine. maybe thats a argument they can have in hell

anyway, totally agree all religions in the u.s are here and should have the freedom christianity enjoys not sure we should subsidize them like we do our own religion tho

your thots?

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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 9:37:44 PM

Do you think it at all fishy that the Benghazi hearings are relegated to CSpan 3. Most folks do not have a package that contains CSpan 3, they have Cspan 1 and 2. Today they had the President of South Korea on 2 while the Benghazi hearing is on 3 where citizens of America can not see it.

That is a hmmmmmmmmm to me.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 2:52:10 PM

Patriotism..........noun

devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty.there, now you have the definition.

Would you say you are patriotic?
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btc1
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 2:48:36 PM

:-) glad to help. But in most cases it offers the opportunity to tie your patriotism to religion, too, right?
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 2:17:43 PM

truth be known, btc, you give an opening to a Christian and they will just pick it up as it gives them a chance to talk about their first love,,,and what God's word says. Always thankful when you bring up Christianity...you are like my straight man.

weasel helps me out also....thankful to the two of you. Not something I usually bring up here unless someone gives me a opening.
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 12:28:32 PM

hillarybenghazi
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 12:27:53 PM

a liberal will have correct answer !!
If you have any doubt ask any liberal.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 10:48:10 AM

Maria, you really get defensive about things when you are backed in a corner. We had a discussion of religion and patriotism going on, did we not? And weaslespit responded to one of your comments. So why does that have to end the discussion, with your attempt to bring the focus to something else? Too close?
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 10:37:01 AM

EZ: ""Bob"'s testimony has yet to be heard in any hearing, it will certainly be interesting to hear his version."


Yes, he's a key piece of evidence. Would be very interesting to hear who gives "Bob" his marching orders.


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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 10:07:36 AM

"Which is 98% of the time!"

Somebody's been looking in the mirror again! ;)
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2014 10:06:26 AM

"have any of you ever noticed that weasel applies labels or name calling to folks when he does not have an educated reply."

Huh? I questioned your assertion that Christ calls for all Christians to be 'evangelists' (a point which you brought up) - how is that name calling?

"This topic is about Benghazi, not my Christianity, or my party affiliation..."

You went down the rabbit hole with btc on that one so don't call-out others for simply responding to your posts.

Have any of you ever noticed that mexicomaria applies labels or name calls folks when she does not have an educated reply?
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 11:36:08 PM

I don't think the "stand down" order originated from "Bob". I think that a number of people batted back and forth about diplomatic appearances, as well as looking for an out for what would play best, while the people were fighting or their lives. Can you imagine where this situation would have gone if those other men wouldn't have defied their orders? I think embarrassment of this indecision is the main reason the administration went into "Where's Waldo" mode after the massacre.

"Bob"'s testimony has yet to be heard in any hearing, it will certainly be interesting to hear his version.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 7:50:13 PM

mxm: "have any of you ever noticed that weasel applies labels or name calling to folks when he does not have an educated reply."


Yes I have noticed that, or at least I did before I put him on ignore.


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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 4:36:01 PM

We will hear again the three men on the roof of the annex testimony and they will be asked the full name of "Bob", and Bob will be called, then we will know if he is lying or telling the truth.

"Stand down" went all the way up..that is what I believe or no one would have to lie.

I still find it extremely fishy that the video story came out...what was everyone hiding...incompetence or something else.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 4:17:26 PM



mexicomaria, "Who told men to stand down...who feel they could have saved the two men at the consulate."

One of the senior Obama administration officials once again lied yesterday before Congress and said that there was NO "stand down" order.

In spite of people involved on the ground in Benghazi saying they were told in those words - "Stand Down" - three different times.



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 9/18/2014 4:17:46 PM EST]
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 3:21:38 PM



mexicomaria, "have any of you ever noticed that weasel applies labels or name calling to folks when he does not have an educated reply."

Which is 98% of the time!

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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 2:39:36 PM

have any of you ever noticed that weasel applies labels or name calling to folks when he does not have an educated reply.

This topic is about Benghazi, not my Christianity, or my party affiliation....or anyone else's party affiliation. I think liberals find something different every day to try to get this topic on a rabbit trail. Reminds me of Hillary and BaracK. I now call rabbit trails, videos on YOu Tube.

We have time, we will wait on the witness testimony. I see that some want to get off on why long ago protection of embassies did not work and the lessons we learned from that were not implemented. We should learn from the past, but first we should know if this consulate attack was preventable, and what exactly happened, not the lie, but what actually happened. Who told men to stand down...who feel they could have saved the two men at the consulate.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:38:55 PM

"The Republicans will run with this until the next major election and drop it the day after the election."

They'll probably drop it same-day.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:38:23 PM

"mexicomaria is dead on in her exegesis of what Scripture says. If it is an 'interpretation', it is a 100% accurate interpretation of Scripture."

Any reading of Scripture involves interpretation. Sorry if this basic premise was lost on you in your attempt to blindly defend a fellow Tea Partier.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:35:46 PM

The Republicans will run with this until the next major election and drop it the day after the election.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:34:04 PM



mexicomaria, "btc..I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about. All Christians were commanded by Christ to be evangelists."

Weaslespit, "Interesting 'interpretation'...."

Not an "interpretation" at all.

mexicomaria is dead on in her exegesis of what Scripture says. If it is an 'interpretation', it is a 100% accurate interpretation of Scripture.

You might want to try studying it sometime before you make snarky comments to her!

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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:33:59 PM

Maria, "I will repeat....Patriotism is not dictated by religions, any more than it is by skin color. Crazy stuff you are saying."

I am not saying that. I am saying that evangelists individually, try to make religion and patriotism the same for them.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:26:08 PM

"btc..I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about. All Christians were commanded by Christ to be evangelists."

Interesting 'interpretation'....
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 12:26:53 PM

I have never seen one religion but Jehovah Witness try to make a statement about anyone's right or non- right to patriotism. btc...you got yourself out on a limb and you are now sawing off the limb off ,all by yourself.

I will repeat....Patriotism is not dictated by religions, any more than it is by skin color. Crazy stuff you are saying.

If we limit freedoms....we are no longer the land of the free. Patriotism is not dictated in the Constitution.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 7:14:13 AM

theTower, that was a comparison of the freedom of religion or the 1st Amendment and the treatment some today have with religion and patriotism. It refers to the government shall not endorse any religion. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...". I never said anything about patriotism in the Constitution.

But, many believe it is right to use their religion to influence the patriotism of the US. It is not. There is no religious requirement for patriotism, either.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 6:25:37 AM



Tower, good questions for btc.

Let's see if he answers.

I doubt it.

Isn't it amazing what things the Democrats are able to find in the Constitution that are not there.

I guess that is what happens when you have a 'living breathing document'.

You can pump HOT AIR in and get anything out.

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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 6:23:42 AM



You are welcome, EZExit.

Along with you, I also hope that the Gowdy hearings will finally get to the bottom of the Benghazi scandal.

I also along with you hope that there will be a minimum of partisanship. Although I am not holding my breath on that one.

We have seen the willingness to circle the wagons and to lie to protect their fellow Democrats. I think we will see it again.

But I hope not.

Ever the optimist. But also a realist.

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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 5:11:53 AM

btc1: " There must be a separation of religion and patriotism as well as church and state, AS INTENDED BY OUR CONSTITUTION "

You need to explain what you meant by that. Where in the constitution does it say anything about separation of religion and patriotism, or even imply that there should be? Where in the constitution does it imply anything about patriotism at all? You sound almost as if you want to go stomping on religious freedoms of those you don't care for.
Are you warping the first amendment again to fit your own views?

[Edited by: theTower at 9/18/2014 5:17:35 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 11:49:49 PM

Thanks for posting those links, AnotherOne. Gowdy's opening statement was very classy, and very blunt, about how these findings never seem to fix anything. I was able to see the passion that he has to find the truth of what happened, and not allow side shows. How refreshing. Likewise, Cummings was also mostly devoid of partisan bickering, and would seem, at least outwardly, showing a willingness to also make this a productive endeavor, as opposed to a political circus.

I am optimistic that the occurrences in Benghazi will finally see light, and that they might actually do something to ensure something like this doesn't happen again.

To Btc and Weasel, the two posters here that are afraid of the truth: You never know, perhaps your love for Hillary and Obama will be untarnished when the truth is finally known, or maybe not. We'll find out soon.
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 11:23:39 PM



btc, "It is the Evangelists and other far right religious beliefs to which I refer."

Who are 'the Evangelists'?

Are they supposedly some denomination in your mind?

Never heard of them, btc.

Please tell us who they are.

maria has it explained exactly right.

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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 11:15:06 PM

Now, back to Benghazi....
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 11:14:18 PM

btc..I can tell you have no idea what you are talking about. All Christians were commanded by Christ to be evangelists. So you see, all Christians are evangelists. They also pay taxes, vote, and are granted rights under the Constitution. They are not a disease, they are not lesser humans, as you would make them out to be. All religions in the USA are free to practice their religion....if all religions are not granted freedom, you can depend on your liberties to be limited some day also.

I would have thought you not to be so bigoted to think one group is some how less than you; we are different but equal.
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 10:40:25 PM

Maria, I was using Presbytarian and Baptist as middle of the road examples.. It is the Evangelists and other far right religious beliefs to which I refer. They seem to think religion and patriotism, their own special brands, go hand in hand. That is the farthest from what the founding fathers intended as can be. There must be a separation of religion and patriotism as well as church and state, AS INTENDED BY OUR CONSTITUTION.
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 7:32:13 PM

Gowdy is on Bret Baier's Wednesday web show. Very good stuff. I'm more impressed with this guy everytime I hear him talk.


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