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mexicomaria

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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 9:19:29 PM

"There were 4 Americans murdered in Benghazi…and yes, it was terrorism. There were 4 Americans murdered at the Boston marathon…and yes, it was terrorism. I am glad the Administration put all the resources it did into finding the bombers in Boston – it was important. The Administration did exactly right in investigating in Boston (the jury is still out on what the Administration did or did not do before the bombing.) But why are our 4 murdered Americans in Benghazi not so important? I think they are." Greta Van Susteren

I still care.....what are we doing about the men we identified (???) that killed Americans in Benghazi?

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EZExit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 5:05:18 PM

Weasel: <<<"Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. This is all about influencing future votes - nothing more. Once this tactic has run its course (one way or the other), those affected personally by the attack on the consulate will be tossed aside like yesterdays newspaper. No more calls returned from high-ranking politicians looking to use them for personal gain.">>>

--Unless you are one of the players hiding the truth, the truth shouldn't be scaring you as much as it appears it would. I have personally heard victims frustrated that this whole Benghazi thing has been "tossed aside like yesterdays newspaper" or even listening to politicians postulating that it is now "old news". Don't worry, buddy, I would be just as vocal on your behalf if our country was to ever leave you for dead too.

Yes, the way that Benghazi has been handled up to this point is indeed despicable. Now allow the Gowdy's committee thoroughly dissect it and give it the attention that it as well as the affected families deserve.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:36:36 PM



The Weasle "So you think Fox News found all of the facts that countless Republicans in positions of influence could not?"

No, but we've all heard how you have all the answers in your pockets. I think it's about time we turn you upside down and shake you a few times.

lol!

Now I see why you have been sitting on the fence so dumb founded!
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:33:29 PM

not dirty enough, weasle.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:32:24 PM

good investigative reporting, weasle....that is what it is called.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:16:33 PM

"Well, one thing we have long know that a reeking stench seems to follow Hillary, and of course she has nothing to do with anything. She still reminds me of the Cheshire Cat, "We're all mad here.""

I have never liked her personally and hopefully 'any' candidate will be better than her. It makes me feel dirty to have to defend her comments regarding Benghazi taken out of contest and parroted by those on the right.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:13:11 PM

Well, one thing we have long know that a reeking stench seems to follow Hillary, and of course she has nothing to do with anything. She still reminds me of the Cheshire Cat, "We're all mad here."
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:03:32 PM

"Is THIS outright fraud?"

So you think Fox News found all of the facts that countless Republicans in positions of influence could not?

This might belong in the "hhhhmmmmmmmm" thread.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 4:01:09 PM

"Is THIS a fraudulent claim?"

So a disgruntled employee claims that thousands of papers were sorted in just one weekend?

I thought our government was inefficient?

Is this plausible? I must concede that. CYA occurs throughout corporate America... Anybody been able to corroborate these claims in the past year? That would certainly give it more credence.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 3:55:36 PM

"<<<"What will Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, discover that two years of investigations by his GOP colleagues could not?">>>

--A lot of things, like what happened and who did it, listening to ALL evidence and ALL witnesses, and testing this evidence."

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. This is all about influencing future votes - nothing more. Once this tactic has run its course (one way or the other), those affected personally by the attack on the consulate will be tossed aside like yesterdays newspaper. No more calls returned from high-ranking politicians looking to use them for personal gain.

Despicable.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 5:47:55 AM

. . . hardly a witch hunt. Since when is including ALL the major players for investigation a witch hunt? Gowdy just wants the truth to come out. If the families of those who were killed(among others) say that not everything and everyone has been investigated, let those who are afraid of investigation step aside and allow truth, no matter what it turns out to be, prevail. Those telling the truth should not be afraid of investigation.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 1:44:44 AM

sO NOW YOU CONS DON'T BELIEVE THE REPORT OF THE rEPUBLICAN WITCH HUNT COMMITTEE? amazing
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 11:40:04 PM

It seems unfathomable that the compound was not relocated with terrorists living right next door.

Who Gave Bob the “Stand-Down” Order?

There is no question that a “stand down” order was delivered to Tanto and the operators directly, by their Chief of Base, the CIA official known only as “Bob.” The operators have corroborated that the order was given to them while Bob was on the phone.

Until now, however, exactly to whom Bob was speaking to has been a mystery.

Our source reports that Bob was seeking assistance from none other than the 17 February Martyr’s Brigade – the very group participating in the attack.

“Bob was literally on the phone, calling for help from the guys who were in the midst of attacking our people,”
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 11:10:38 PM



mweyant, WOW!!

So now it starts to come out that Hillary actually was in bed with the brutal TERRORISTS from Ansar al Sharia?!

I may not know much, but even I know that I do not want Ansar al Sharia anywhere near the hen house.

The only thing that should be done with Ansar al Sharia is to annihilate them.

But Hillary puts our Ambassador's LIFE in the hands of TERRORISTS!

How EVIL is this administration, anyway?

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mweyant
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:48:13 PM

Source: Clinton Directly Involved In Terrorist Group “Security Force” At Benghazi

9-29-14

"The State Department had final decision-making authority over all of the following:

· The selection of the 17 February Martyrs Brigade, affiliates of terrorist organization Ansar al-Sharia, as security for the U.S. Special Mission Compound, which housed the Ambassador;

· The refusal to provide U.S. Special Forces as security for the Ambassador;

· The location of the compound, which was located next door to an outpost of terrorist organization Ansar Al-Sharia; The “stand down” order that delayed military contractors at a nearby CIA Annex from aiding the compound.

Terrorists as Security Guards

The 17 February Martyr’s Brigade, or 17 Feb, was the largest and most well-known militia group in Libya at the time of the attack. Its moniker refers to an incident on that date in 2006, when Libyan security forces killed a group of people outside the Italian consulate in Benghazi.

The militia was born during the war against Qaddafi, taking advantage of the security vacuum to collect weapons and recruit personnel. After the September 11 attack on the compound, members merged into Ansar al-Sharia, a coalition terror organization whose name means “Partisans of Sharia Law.”

However, there appears to be no explanation for why the State Department chose a known Jihadist group to protect Americans in a war-torn Islamic nation."
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:30:33 PM

Is THIS a fraudulent claim?
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:27:56 PM

Is THIS outright fraud?
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 5:03:41 PM

Weasel, checked your link, nope, no bozo button or cookie for you! All it did was talk about Gowdy's hearing as an indictment on the hearings previously held...

<<<"Doing so would now be nothing short of an explicit vote of no confidence in House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, the Michigan Republican.">>>

--Agreed, we all know that these past hearings were indeed a political circus.

<<<"What will Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina, discover that two years of investigations by his GOP colleagues could not?">>>

--A lot of things, like what happened and who did it, listening to ALL evidence and ALL witnesses, and testing this evidence.

<<<"If the House leadership views the Intelligence Committee as that incompetent, shouldn’t its chairman be replaced?">>>

--Definitely!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:47:56 PM

Attempting to placate the ideological fringes of the Republican conference by using a taxpayer-funded investigation is at best the most cynical form of politics. To continue the charade after a Republican chairman releases findings that undermine the very core of your investigation is outright fraud.

But the Benghazi Select Committee will keep on moving forward. And it will not end after the 2014 elections. If Hillary Clinton chooses to run, the committee will become a principal tool in the conservative movement’s campaign apparatus against her, holding hearings designed to obscure the truth and smear Clinton during the least opportune moments of the electoral cycle.


Certainly there will be live testimony - it makes for better theatre.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:37:46 PM

Weasel: <<<"Your comment makes no sense since it is the GOP who has been beating this dead horse to push their agenda, but I digress. Regardless, it is a strategy employed by ALL politicians when manufacturing outrage to invigorate their base or make a name for themselves. A sad reality of politics.">>>

--Until this hearing, and I may be premature, but I am under the impression that they are going to investigate the whole incident, and not censure certain witnesses to protect political butts. I challenge you to provide a link to ANY Benghazi hearing where the actual witness testimony was heard and tested. A sad reality of politics indeed.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:27:08 PM

"--Exactly! That is what Obama did from day one that created the outrage in the first place."

Your comment makes no sense since it is the GOP who has been beating this dead horse to push their agenda, but I digress. Regardless, it is a strategy employed by ALL politicians when manufacturing outrage to invigorate their base or make a name for themselves. A sad reality of politics.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:22:59 PM

Weasel: <<<"I agree. The rhetoric will serve no longer serve any political purpose, thus those 'truly' affected by the event will most likely be callously discarded... ">>>

--Exactly! That is what Obama did from day one that created the outrage in the first place. Indeed the victims and their families have been callously discarded, and I thank God that a few in Washington actually put their foot down and we are beginning a "real" hearing to get the forensics of what and who did wrong, and what and who did right. I am also grateful that Gowdy is heading up this committee, he apparently is quite good at clearing his way through BS.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 4:18:29 PM

I wept when the one man told about checking the bodies to see if they were dead and he sobbed as he told the only way to hurry off the roof was to throw the bodies over and climb down...one nearly had no hand. This is not something one would lie about, too sad.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 10:52:21 AM

"I predict that right after the 2014 elections Benghazi fever will disappear unless Hilary runs. It won't have any political value after that point..."

I agree. The rhetoric will serve no longer serve any political purpose, thus those 'truly' affected by the event will most likely be callously discarded...
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 6:04:34 AM

EZExit: "I watched a television program where they recounted what had happened, they broke down a couple of times, and it made my heart ache to hear what they went through."

Mine also.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 6:03:56 AM

worryfree: "I predict that right after the 2014 elections Benghazi fever will disappear unless Hilary runs. It won't have any political value after that point..."

Have you watched this video?

Are you familiar with this man and the two stacks?

Do you believe, that he, Jason Chaffetz and Sharyl Attkisson are lying?

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/30/2014 6:13:53 AM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2014 12:09:15 AM

I predict that right after the 2014 elections Benghazi fever will disappear unless Hilary runs. It won't have any political value after that point...
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 11:01:59 PM

Mweyant: <<<"Benghazi redux: Former security operators share their story">>>

--I watched a television program where they recounted what had happened, they broke down a couple of times, and it made my heart ache to hear what they went through. I anticipate that they would also be called to testify, I believe that these are the people that were censored and kept from everyone while the previous hearings were held.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 8:50:52 AM

"I had the answer."

LOL. I am certain that you do, in fact, believe that.

"If you would read the Bible, you would know a little more."
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“Jesus himself did not try to convert the two thieves on the cross; he waited until one of them turned to him.”

And to bring this back to 'politics';

"Upon closer observation, it becomes apparent that every strong upsurge of power in the public sphere, be it of a political or a religious nature, infects a large part of humankind with stupidity.”

- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Letters and Papers from Prison
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 12:18:53 AM

"They never publicly shared their story....Until now."

Can't be. Everyone was interviewed already. Everyone testified in the countless hearings before this one.

"“There was a delay, and it caused deaths,” Paronto said.... The authors contend that high-level government officials issued a stand-down order in the wake of the attack."

That can't be. This has been thoroughly investigated. The House Committee Investigation found there was no stand-down order.

"The last straw, Kris Paronto said, was hearing people on a radio station in his Nebraska hometown describe the controversy over the killing of a U.S. ambassador in Benghazi, Libya, as a “figment of the right wing’s imagination.”

Yabbbbbbut that's just contrived controversy being stirred up by Mark Geist, Kris Paronto and John Tiegen - right wing opportunists with a vivid imagination. They're probably Tea Partiers also - obviously greedy capitalists, out to make a buck. They're just hocking a book.

It's been completely investigated already. Shame on the Senate Committee for stirring up controversy like this.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/26/2014 12:20:43 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 11:31:28 PM

Benghazi redux: Former security operators share their story

9-25-14

"The last straw, Kris Paronto said, was hearing people on a radio station in his Nebraska hometown describe the controversy over the killing of a U.S. ambassador in Benghazi, Libya, as a “figment of the right wing’s imagination.”

Paronto, a former Army Ranger, and former Marines Mark Geist and John Tiegen were at the U.S. compound in Benghazi that deadly night, and they don’t have much patience for outsiders coming up with accounts of their own.

They were working as contract security operators at the Central Intelligence Agency’s annex in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012, and were ready to go as first responders to the attacks on the compound.

They never publicly shared their story.

Until now.

“We said that we’ll either resign and tell our stories or sit and let this continue to spin out of control,” Paronto said.

So they quit.

They’ve partnered with Mitchell Zuckoff, a best-selling author and Boston University professor in publishing “13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened In Benghazi,” released this month."
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 2:33:29 PM



Weaslespit, "No, you had an opinion."

No.

I had the answer.

And I gave it to you.

If you would read the Bible, you would know a little more.

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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 1:49:05 PM

Weasel: <<<"Seems as though somebody is avoiding the truth, much like those Tea Partiers who are avoiding the conclusions of the litany of Benghazi investigations until one arrives that fits their preconceived conclusions allowing them to start boasting 'see - I told you so!'.">>>

--Speaking of which, any new news on any testimony from any of the witnesses that have been silenced until now?
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 1:24:55 PM

"Because I had the answer to a very simple question about what Jesus said and what the Bible says."

No, you had an opinion. Regardless, it had nothing to do with the question being asked of mexicomaria - especially since you then claimed you didn't want to be a part of her 'harassment'...

Interesting, btw, that she has yet to define where I did any name-calling as she suggested despite having posted since the question was asked.

Seems as though somebody is avoiding the truth, much like those Tea Partiers who are avoiding the conclusions of the litany of Benghazi investigations until one arrives that fits their preconceived conclusions allowing them to start boasting 'see - I told you so!'.
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 10:58:58 AM

Another day!!
benghazihillary
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daylily2009
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hillarybenghazi
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AnotherOne
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Weaslespit, "Then why are you responding to my question "

Because I had the answer to a very simple question about what Jesus said and what the Bible says.

Simple enough for you?

What I said is that I am not part of your *harassment* of mexicomaria.

Is that simple enough for you as well?

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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 2:32:36 PM

"I am saying that evangelists individually, try to make religion and patriotism the same for them."


Its not just that. The recent flap over the Air Force trying to force an atheist airman to acknowledge God in order to re-enlist shows that for many people you have to be "godly" to be patriotic (or at least show your patriotism by serving in the armed forces).
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 2:23:38 PM

"Go ask mexicomaria, Weaslespit.

I am not part of your harrassment of her."

Then why are you responding to my question I have asked of her, directly? Seems like I did ask mexicomaria, no?
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:31:46 PM



Go ask mexicomaria, Weaslespit.

I am not part of your harrassment of her.

And you probably couldn't understand anything she said about spiritual things anyway, as you have already proved with very clear information.

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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:29:25 PM

"Not my 'opinion' at all.

It is there in black and white in the Bible."

How does this help mexicomaria answer my question?
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:26:44 PM



Weaslespit, "Thanks for sharing you opinion."

Not my 'opinion' at all.

It is there in black and white in the Bible.

You should try dusting yours off and actually opening it sometime. And reading it.

Or maybe you don't even have a Bible. Someone will send you one.



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 9/22/2014 1:27:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 1:05:36 PM

According to their website, the Benghazi hearing can be streamed right here on C-Span2...
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 12:09:24 PM

"He did not 'call' for it.

He COMMANDED it."

Thanks for sharing you opinion. Let me know if you can help get mexicomaria to answer my question...
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 11:34:36 AM

benghazihillary
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Weaslespit, ""Huh? I questioned your assertion that Christ calls for all Christians to be 'evangelists' (a point which you brought up) - how is that name calling?""

He did not 'call' for it.

He COMMANDED it.

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"weasel helps me out also....thankful to the two of you. Not something I usually bring up here unless someone gives me a opening."

Still waiting for a response to this question since you are now falsely accusing me of name calling in multiple threads (how very Christian of you...);

"Huh? I questioned your assertion that Christ calls for all Christians to be 'evangelists' (a point which you brought up) - how is that name calling?"
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2014 9:50:58 AM

C-Span3 is offered on Verizon FiOS service like our son has in Massachusetts, but with Direct TV here it is not offered. When I went to the C-Span website it said I could stream it if I had a Direct TV password with a Direct TV account. I have not tried it yet, but in the past when we had Comcast Cable if a station was not offered in whatever package you subscribed to then you could not stream it on a computer without a code from the provider. They would not give you that code unless it was in your package.
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2014 11:50:11 AM

hillarybenghazi
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2014 11:25:09 AM

Mexicanmaria
i agree the cspan3 conspiracy is fishy and am hoping youll share your reserach link with me ASAP!!!! thats how we defeat libs by sharing good info!

thanks!!!

didnt you have any thots on not subsidising other religions like we do our own? Seems kinda important but maybe not

anyway really enjoy your comments other then the one you made about me being homasexual
i'm a sinner but thats not really funny
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