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RNorm

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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 11:33:44 AM

""that an acquittal of George Zimmerman could ignite a reaction similar to that, 20 years ago, when the Simi Valley jury acquitted the LAPD cops in the Rodney King beating case."" (Pat Buchanan)




"If you live in a large city be prepared to evacuate or put up a fight to win. You will need firearms, fire suppression equipment along with lots of food and water. Police resources will be slow and outgunned everywhere.

America is about to see some combat related population control like we’ve not seen since the Civil War. Martial Law can’t be far behind complete with major efforts at gun grabbing.

This may be a turning point in America. Freedom will either be retaken or lost for our lifetimes and our children's." (Paul Huebl)




And conservatives say its only the left fanning the flames of hatred and racial strife???

[Edited by: RNorm at 7/15/2013 11:35:12 AM EST]
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 10:13:12 PM

Glad to see this one locked. One down 800 to go!
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 11:01:29 AM

Popcorn, "He chose to believe the evidence that was presented. " Don't you mean Zimmerman's testimony, instead of evidence? What other "evidence" are you referring to?
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 10:58:39 AM

plastic, it was the assumption you came to, that, made it sound a lot like an attack.
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 10:48:18 AM

Btc, I did not go after RNorm. In fact he is the person I feel that I would most likely be friends with in person. He must just be on edge or high alert right now.

As far as your statement about Zimmerman, it is way off base and disgusting. I think of you as an educated person. How can you be so wrong about this case? And no, that's not my opinion.

I need to ask MM what "asisine" means. But knowing his track record, at getting things wrong, I won't.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 10:01:25 AM


RNorm, "I went to a rally today in Downtown LA. I knew it would be peaceful because it was being held at City Hall and is a stones throw from the LAPD Headquarters. I talked to some of the officers I know from other marches and rallies I have photographed and they were in good spirits, not anticipating a riot and just making sure that the protesters were able to express their right to a peaceful assembly.

That says:

1. Went to a Rally in Downtown LA.

2. The Rally was near the LAPD Headquarters, so I knew all would be well.

3. I spoke to several police officers who were not expecting trouble but a peaceful gathering.

4. I'm known to the police from numerous rallies and protests that I have photographed"

None of which addresses the question asked, which was "Norm, you attended a rally related to the decision? Please tell me why ..."

To which you went off on a tirade of personal attacks.

All you have said about your attendance was that you did not expect trouble there and that you photograph rallies.

Still no explanation of why you are interested in rallies that support the attacker in this incident. Your silence on this matter leaves you open to speculation as to why you care about it.

Your history here on GB suggests the answer.

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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:47:53 AM


MiddletownMarty, "Why did Trayvon not have a right to stand his ground against Z?"

Because Trayvon initiated the attack. Zimmerman did not attack Martin, so Martin had no ground to stand; he was the aggressor.

Zimmerman did not have the opportunity to retreat; he was the victim in the attack.

SYG does not apply to either side in this case. It was straight self-defense on Zimmerman's part.

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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:38:14 AM

""Maddog, you chose to believe a proven liar and bigot. Ok. Got that. ""

He chose to believe the evidence that was presented. He chose to believe the credibility of the witnesses that testified.

GZ - Back of head was cut & bloody. Back was wet from being on the ground. nose was broken from being punched. ??? I don't know about you but if my life is being threatened like that...I would shoot the person trying to hurt me.

TM- shot from an upward direction. Proof in evidence. His clothes were 2"-3" away from his body when shot. TM was on top of GZ pounding the life out of him.

Please stop being a reciest & claiming GZ followed TM because he was black. He followed him because he was acting suspicious in a neighborhood that had allot of burglaries in recent weeks. He was doing his job to help his neighbors.

Remember this cold hard fact..... Police do not stop crime. They can only investigate after the crime & possibly catch & prosecute the perpetrator.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:32:09 AM

Why did Trayvon not have a right to stand his ground against Z?
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:24:14 AM

Maddog, you chose to believe a proven liar and bigot. Ok. Got that.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:21:12 AM

>> Why pick the criminal over the victim? <<

Actually the only criminal was Trayvon when he assaulted Zimmerman. Zimmerman was the victim of the assault.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 8:15:08 AM

Excellent story you did for iReport, Norm.

Too bad Tweedle dumb and Tweedle dumber won't be any wiser for their wear, but will rather continue to justify their asisine remarks.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 6:58:07 AM

You knom, Norm has been around here a long time. And during that time, he has discussed what he does a few times. If anyone had actually read any of his words before, they would know this. The problem is most here, and I will include myself on occasion, see who the poster is and make assumptions about them.

I am not always on defense of leftists. But, most of you will think I am. That is due to the strong hard right beliefs rhetoric expressed herein. I am a defender, but, not always in real life. RNorm is a very reasonable person and has the ability here to disagree with me many times and I get that. Some do not. They only see the label first.
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 6:14:42 AM

Ugh, still with the mis comprehension.

I came back to respond to the possibility of just going to observe or document. I'd almost believe that but I never remember him doing such a thing with any tea party rally.
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 1:15:25 AM

"It works because people can't admit when they're wrong about their preconceived notions of others of different races and cultures and people refuse to let go of prejudices that reinforce their erroneous preconceived notions."

I'm not going to intrude in your "discussion" with Panama & Plastic :-)

But your statement applies to both sides of this issue, doesn't it?
It seems that once again the extremes on both ends are attempting to frame the issue for their own political advantage. One extreme sees - white guy kills black guy = racism. No other facts needed. Mind made up. The other extreme sees - black guy in white neighborhood. Must be up to no good so he had it coming. No other facts needed. Mind made up.

Those of us, who I think are the vast majority of the country, that try to look beyond those lazy, ignorant, convenient views are caught in the crossfire between the two extremes, afraid to make any comment for fear of incurring the wrath of one of the extremes. It's a sickening spectacle to watch. Over and over and over with nothing ever resolved because the sad fact is that the extremes don't WANT it resolved. In fact, they love it and they thrive on it. And the media cheers them on because conflict means big ratings. It is truly sickening.

To echo theTower - And this is why I try to share as little as possible.
It's just not worth it.
Make some points, take some shots, and leave it alone for a few days.
Or longer.
It's really all this place is good for these days.
As always, just my opinion of course.

[Edited by: djvang at 7/18/2013 1:16:01 AM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 1:01:17 AM

"That would have been a simple thing to say."


The simpler thing would have not to have made the ignorant, arrogant and erroneous assumptions in the first place...and then not add insult to injury by doubling, tripling and quadrupling down on the same.

Then YOU went WAY over the top asking a series of very stupid questions:

""Are your sympathies for the attacker due to the color of his skin or for his lawless actions and druggie ways?

Or perhaps because of the color of the skin of his victim that fought back in self-defense?

Or perhaps it was because you are ignorant of Trayvon's actions and background?

Why pick the criminal over the victim?

Because he misjudged his victim and died as a result?""


Dumb; just dumb! And could have all been avoided had you bothered to simply READ and COMPREHEND what I said in the 1st place:

"I went to a rally today in Downtown LA. I knew it would be peaceful because it was being held at City Hall and is a stones throw from the LAPD Headquarters. I talked to some of the officers I know from other marches and rallies I have photographed and they were in good spirits, not anticipating a riot and just making sure that the protesters were able to express their right to a peaceful assembly."

That says:

1. Went to a Rally in Downtown LA.

2. The Rally was near the LAPD Headquarters, so I knew all would be well.

3. I spoke to several police officers who were not expecting trouble but a peaceful gathering.

4. I'm known to the police from numerous rallies and protests that I have photographed.

Simple reading comprehension would have told YOU AND Plastic that had you bothered to read what I said, rather than to stupidly assume what I said mean that I was protesting in the hood.

Arrogant Conservatives who cant admit when they're wrong, so they blame the person they were attacking for their making a horses rear of themselves!

SMH!!!
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:51:03 AM

"For some reason he instantly felt he was being attacked."

Well when someone says:

"Norm, you attended a rally related to the decision? Please tell me why because logic would dictate ignorance, racism or both'."

A rational person takes that as an insulting attack which assumes that the person addressed is either ignorant, racist or both.





"It was an absurd response"

No, your question was absurd based on your idiotic assumptions.


And like I said, you STILL can't simply apologize for being wrong; neither one of you.

THAT's the arrogance I've been referring to this entire thread. I don't have to prove myself to you or to Panama...but if I don't you're going to stupidly assume I'm ignorant or a racist (or both) or that I'm going to ground and pound you for even asking me why I was there.

That is what racists do; assume the worse in others different from themselves and never able to apologize for being wrong, no matter how many times they're shown to be wrong.

SMH!
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:50:00 AM

I'm in New Mexico.
Yeah they set off fireworks that night.
Who still thinks Zman is white?

[Edited by: oilpan4 at 7/18/2013 12:50:37 AM EST]
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:14:28 AM


AC-302, "One thing I will tell you is that RNorm does document "happenings" here in and around LaLa land, and that is likely why he was out there"

That would have been a simple thing to say.

Instead he went off on a tirade of personal attacks.

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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:04:56 AM


RNorm, "PS: I won't be holding my breath for an apology for all those arrogant, erroneous and insulting assumptions made by Panama and Plastic..."

Nor will I hold my breath for an apology from you for your insulting personal attacks upon me.

It helps to have a thick skin in these conversations.

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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 11:09:38 PM

Ii didn't know why he was there nor did i make an assumption. I simply asked why and what reasons that someone would go, admitting that there must be reasons that i hadn't realized.For some reason he instantly felt he was being attacked. It was an absurd response.

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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:59:47 PM

If you are questioning RNorm's motives for even being there, then what are you saying? I'm saying, he wanted to see what was going on from a journalistic/artistic perspective. Why do you think he was there?
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:53:04 PM

AC, I hope you can see and understand that I never called RNorm a racist.
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:50:49 PM

There's a lot of pointlessblatherthat'snotworth aresponse. Inanotherthread characterizedprotestorsasignorantorracistooruboth. I also gave another possibility.

Oops, sorry bout the lost spaces.

In here I reiterated those sound assumptions. I never applied those labels to RNorm or anyone else by name. I simply asked RNorm if there was another possibility that someone would protest. RNorm must be a little wound up right now because he went off and wrongly felt that I was attacking him. So not the case.

As for btc; same as above. Plus his grossly incorrect biased use of "murdered" to describe Trayvon's unfortunate disposition really tells a lot.

Pan, I understand but I think he's the other.
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:39:14 PM

Panama and Plastic - Now, gents. I wish you wouldn't call our friend RNorm a racist. Understand that he and I have dined together a number of times, and it happens, through this website, have become friends in real life, along with Jayrad1957. One thing I will tell you is that RNorm does document "happenings" here in and around LaLa land, and that is likely why he was out there. He was most likely in the neighborhood and decided to stop in and see if there was anything "doing". I would seriously doubt that RNorm would be carrying a sign and protesting. Consider the possibility that he was wanting to get a "read" on the community and the crowd.
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greentre
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:04:08 PM

"The real problem is what this is doing to race relations around the county. I can already see the effects were I work. Black and white are starting to segregate themselves on brakes and even in the work areas because everyone is afraid of inadvertently saying something that will offend someone."

Exactly! And the major race baiters are making all progress towards a coexisting society that has been accomplished over the last few decades go up in flames of hate and mistrust.

"This may be a turning point in America." (Paul Huebl)

Freedom - maybe. A cohesive society - It will take a lot of rebuilding if those in the media keep fanning the flames of racism.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 9:16:30 PM

Tower, my whole point is my post to DJV was that not everyone is a racist or a thug and that there were all types of people, young and old, black, white, yellow and brown uniting for a cause.

But that was turned into all of the crap that Panama and Plastic made it and that all based on their idiotic assumptions.

What they did is a perfect example of why racism flourishes today: people making erroneous assumptions about others who are different than them; and doubling, tripling and even quadrupling down on their assumptions, rather than admit they're wrong about people they obviously know nothing about (other than their wrong assumptions).

SMH
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 9:14:12 PM

If a picture tells the story what is a video worth? If you have been attacked or work in one of the business that have been vandalized or raided it probably looks like a riot. I guess it depends on your perspective and what the definition of riot is at the time. I can granite that this waiter doesn’t care what the violence is called or even why it’s happening. What I would like to know is how does this get justice for Trayvon?The real problem is what this is doing to race relations around the county. I can already see the effects were I work. Black and white are starting to segregate themselves on brakes and even in the work areas because everyone is afraid of inadvertently saying something that will offend someone. Before this all of my mechanics would eat lunch together now they eat in self imposed groups divided by race.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 9:09:50 PM

And this is why I try to share as little as possible.
It's just not worth it.
Make some points , take some shots, and leave it alone for a few days.
Or longer.
It's really all this place is good for these days.
As always, just my opinion of course.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 8:14:51 PM

" I'm just going to say that either I'm a really crappy writer or you have very poor reading comprehension. Therefore it would be pointless to try to have an intelligent conversation, between us, that would result in any sort of understanding."


My reading skills are fine, but yours are pathetic and you're too arrogant to acknowledge when you're wrong, just like your fellow "lets bash Norm commuter", Panama.

If your reading skills were as good as you say, then you would have seen why I was there and would have not shown how arrogant and illogical you are by stating:

"""Norm, you attended a rally related to the decision? Please tell me why because logic would dictate ignorance, racism or both."""


Moreover, you continued to show how crappy your reading comprehension is because you understood this:

"The funny thing is that I didn't really care why he went to the protest but he did provide an answer indicating that it was for reasons that only people who knew him would understand. Personally, that raises a red flag in my mind! "

from my posting:


"Yeah, there is; and those here who actually know me know the reason why. Those who don't come up with stupid conclusions like yours and insist that they are right and hurl insults like you just did..."

The problem with your comprehension is that its clouded by your ignorant, arrogant and erroneous assumptions. That is why there can only be the reasons you assumed and not any other reason.

Again, Tower didn't make the erroneous assumptions you did and therefore figured it all out on his 1st post!

Maybe if you take your ignorant, arrogant and erroneous blinders off, you perhaps can read what was said again:

"I went to a rally today in Downtown LA. I knew it would be peaceful because it was being held at City Hall and is a stones throw from the LAPD Headquarters. I talked to some of the officers I know from other marches and rallies I have photographed and they were in good spirits, not anticipating a riot and just making sure that the protesters were able to express their right to a peaceful assembly."

Without ignorantly, erroneously and arrogantly assuming why I was there (since I explained it) and adding all of the crap you have added as you have doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on today...as you joined your pal Panama in looking like the other side of the horses' rear.

SHM!!!
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:59:22 PM

"That leaves it up to the observer to surmise his real intentions. "


Wrong once again.

A true Observer doesn't try to surmise anything, but simply watches and documents and let the story tell itself.

THAT is what photojournalism is all about. And is probably why you and plastic aren't doing it because you're too busy making ignorant, arrogant and erroneous assumptions about what is taking place.

SMH!!!

[Edited by: RNorm at 7/17/2013 8:00:39 PM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:57:41 PM

""And he has chosen not to say which he could easily have done, but has chosen to attack others instead to change the subject.""


Again, please.

You and Plastic come off in your attack mode with stupid and erroneous assumptions and then its someone else's fault that you both look like fools for your stupid assumptions.

Why do you think everyone has to explain themselves to you before you can treat them with respect. You both have clearly shown why there are continuing racial problems in this country with your ignorant, arrogant and erroneous assumptions and STILL neither one of you can say "Norm, Sorry about that. I came at you wrong and I can see why you came back at me the way you did".

LOL, that is WAY too much humble pie for either one of you to chew, so you make it my fault that you attacked me with your dumb questions and assumptions and didn't stop you from making a fool of yourselves, even though it was obvious to anyone why I was there; that is why Tower came in and figured it out from a causal look thru the thread.

SMH
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:52:05 PM

"No, it doesn't. There were several possibilities raised, and RNorm was asked if it was for one of these reasons or some other reason."

Man please. Those weren't possibilities they were ignorant and arrogant ASSUMPTIONS. Again, the "possibilities" were:

A. Norm is Ignorant

B. Norm is a Racist

C. All of the above.

None of which are true, but all of which are based in ignorant and erroneous assumptions, even though my reasons for being there were stated. Plastic wrongly assumed based on his OWN CONSERVATIVE VIEWS and not due to any facts. Of course, he won't apologize for that and I'm sure neither will you.

Moreover, YOU doubled, tripled and quadrupled down with even more stupid questions all based on YOUR OWN ignorant and arrogant assumptions:

"Are your sympathies for the attacker due to the color of his skin or for his lawless actions and druggie ways?

Or perhaps because of the color of the skin of his victim that fought back in self-defense?

Or perhaps it was because you are ignorant of Trayvon's actions and background?

Why pick the criminal over the victim?

Because he misjudged his victim and died as a result?"

Yes, you kept on going down the road because you ASSUME much and know little...Another fine example of conservatives thinking things through, ignoring the facts, not desirous of uncovering any and imply proffering their point of view as the only "logical" explanation...

That is just dumb; but no surprise there....

SMH!

[Edited by: RNorm at 7/17/2013 7:53:06 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:10:37 PM

plastic, I am actually surprised at your presumptions here. That does not seem like you. Does someone else have access to your GB account?

Oh yeah, I have now changed my avatar to Trayvon and his family 9 days before his murder.

[Edited by: btc1 at 7/17/2013 7:11:31 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:02:42 PM

plastic, "RNorm, I made a logical conclusion about anyone who would protest the verdict. Instead of just coming out and calling you racist or ignorant, I appealed to you to educate me about some other possibility that I may have overlooked."

I too, know why he attends events like that. Let's just say he is an observer.

You "jumped the shark" with that conclusion and turned it into a "Sharknado!"

Feel overwhelmed with those teeth, yet? You know, it is not required to reveal all about your personal life here. Eventhough many of us do reveal, probably, too much.

And I do not know who said this, "Are your sympathies for the attacker due to the color of his skin or for his lawless actions and druggie ways?" I got it from a post by sgm.

But, that is another shark jump, based on the very small amount of marijuana in Trayvon's blood after the murder. It is overwhelmingly stretched beyond the necessary observations to an assumption, that is no where near accurate. But, that is not your point, is it?


[Edited by: btc1 at 7/17/2013 7:08:59 PM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:58:22 PM

"And he has chosen not to say which he could easily have done, but has chosen to attack others instead to change the subject.

What does that suggest to you?"


It says to me that you jumped in on a bash Norm bandwagon and made a total fool of yourself with those ignorant and arrogant assumptions, and even doubling down on them, rather than take the time to read what I posted which started why I was there.

And now you blame me for looking like the tail end of a horse. Dude, YOU were the one who kept going on and on with those stupid and erroneous assumptions.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:49:38 PM

Wow, Tower figured it out on the first post by simply doing a casual scroll thru; without making the erroneous assumptions and doubling down by plastic and Panama, even tho they had access to the same info that Tower did.

SMH

PS: I won't be holding my breath for an apology for all those arrogant, erroneous and insulting assumptions made by Panama and Plastic...
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:38:46 PM


theTower, "Not knowing him at all I have no idea why he would do that"

And he has chosen not to say which he could easily have done, but has chosen to attack others instead to change the subject.

What does that suggest to you?

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theTower
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:31:20 PM

Just a quick scroll through but I am pretty sure Rnorm posted that he was photgraphing the event and stated he has photgraphed similar events in the past.
Not knowing him at all I have no idea why he would do that.
Could be a hobby, could be his job for all I know.

[Edited by: theTower at 7/17/2013 5:32:44 PM EST]
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:20:36 PM


sgm4law, "That question rests on the assumption that he attended it as a sympathizer rather than an observer. Again"

No, it doesn't. There were several possibilities raised, and RNorm was asked if it was for one of these reasons or some other reason.

RNorm has refused to answer the simple question and has instead gone off on a name-calling tirade in an attempt to re-direct attention elsewhere.

That leaves it up to the observer to surmise his real intentions.

Given his usual race sensitivity and defensiveness, I have made my best guess.

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:19:17 PM

Wow, there sure a whole lotta ignorant and arrogant assumptions being hurled around here. I'm mobile at the moment, but will be back soon. However, I fear by that time the two of you will have stepped so deep in it that it will take a fumigator to get you out! LOL

*ROTFL*
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:06:32 PM

<Are your sympathies for the attacker due to the color of his skin or for his lawless actions and druggie ways?>

That question rests on the assumption that he attended it as a sympathizer rather than an observer. Again.
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 4:57:05 PM

Pan: "You have simply refused to answer why you went to a rally for a person that assaulted and attempted to kill a Neighborhood Watch captain and died as a result."

The funny thing is that I didn't really care why he went to the protest but he did provide an answer indicating that it was for reasons that only people who knew him would understand. Personally, that raises a red flag in my mind!
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 4:53:31 PM

RNorm, I'm not going to point-by-point show you where you are off base. I'm just going to say that either I'm a really crappy writer or you have very poor reading comprehension. Therefore it would be pointless to try to have an intelligent conversation, between us, that would result in any sort of understanding.

[Edited by: plastic at 7/17/2013 4:54:14 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 4:19:05 PM


RNorm, "Again, will you be man enough to admit you were wrong in conjoining your erroneous assumptions with Plastics when proven so? Its a simple yes or no question"

No, you have not proven me wrong about anything.

You have simply refused to answer why you went to a rally for a person that assaulted and attempted to kill a Neighborhood Watch captain and died as a result.

Are your sympathies for the attacker due to the color of his skin or for his lawless actions and druggie ways?

Or perhaps because of the color of the skin of his victim that fought back in self-defense?

Or perhaps it was because you are ignorant of Trayvon's actions and background?

Why pick the criminal over the victim?

Because he misjudged his victim and died as a result?

It was a simple question, which you appear to be both unable to answer and too stubborn to admit when you are wrong.

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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 3:15:39 PM

"And that's an answer?"

Again, will you be man enough to admit you were wrong in conjoining your erroneous assumptions with Plastics when proven so?"

Its a simple yes or no question.

One that is asked because you have a habit of never wanting to admit when you're wrong and then changing the subject so you don't have to say you were wrong.
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 3:08:26 PM


RNorm, "Not all stupid questions deserve an answer. However, this one I'm more than prepared to answer all in due time. But you keep avoiding the question asked of you: Namely will you be man enough to admit you were wrong in conjoining your erroneous assumptions with Plastics when proven so?"

So you evade one question and ask another that is more appropriately aimed at your mirror.

And that's an answer?

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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 2:57:57 PM

"I know why RNorm "attends" things like this--make note that he didn't say he "participated" in the protest. That's the assumption that both plastic and P19 made and that RNorm did not bother to dispell."


Bingo. Give that lady a prize!

*ROTFL*
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 2:53:26 PM

"A simple question which you are unprepared to answer."

Not all stupid questions deserve an answer. However, this one I'm more than prepared to answer all in due time. But you keep avoiding the question asked of you: Namely will you be man enough to admit you were wrong in conjoining your erroneous assumptions with Plastics when proven so?





"You launched into a name-calling diatribe instead."

No, what I did was to illustrate and point out the stupidity and arrogance that erroneously assumed that one has to be "ignorant, racist or both to attend such a rally; and adding insult to injury was yet another erroneous assumption that:

"I fear that if I had asked you in person that you'd be on top of me and banging my head on the ground."

You conservatives do a bold job of character assassination with your erroneous assumptions, but a poor job of manning-up and admitting when you're wrong about the same.

Not that I'm surprised or anything.

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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 2:49:43 PM

I know why RNorm "attends" things like this--make note that he didn't say he "participated" in the protest. That's the assumption that both plastic and P19 made and that RNorm did not bother to dispell.
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 2:44:09 PM


RNorm, "Again, Plastic made an insulting and erroneous assumption about me: 'Norm, you attended a rally related to the decision? Please tell me why because logic would dictate ignorance, racism or both'."

A simple question which you are unprepared to answer.

You launched into a name-calling diatribe instead.

And then accused me of prejudice for previously citing government crime statistics that you do not wish to deal with.

"Lets try to stay on point and not go all into tangents that have nothing to do your current train's present course (i.e., epic failure)..."

Good idea.

Answer the question.

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