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maddog57

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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 8:48:10 PM

Forget the over-zealous prosecutors and the repellent state attorney Angela Corey (who should be immediately disbarred or, my wife said sarcastically, elevated to director of Homeland Security) and even the unfortunate Trayvon Martin family (although it is certainly hard to forget them β€” they have our profound sympathies), the true loser at the Zimmerman trial was Barack Obama.

By injecting himself in a minor Florida criminal case by implying Martin could be his son, the president of the United States β€” a onetime law lecturer, of all things β€” disgraced himself and his office, made a mockery of our legal system and exacerbated racial tensions in our country, making them worse than they have been in years. This is the work of a reactionary, someone who consciously/unconsciously wants to push our nation back to the 1950s.

It is also the work of a narcissist who thinks of himself first, of his image, not of black, white or any other kind of people. It’s no accident that race relations in our country have gone backwards during his stewardship.
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DaMiamiTwinz
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 11:52:20 PM

Can we all just get along? "GROUP HUG" Come on everybody. On the count of three .........one...two...three.............
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2013 10:01:34 PM

>> So much hate being spread over so many channels... <<

The hate started when the leftist media started demonizing George Zimmerman and practically granting sainthood to Trayon Martin. The attacks on Martin only started when the media unfairly attacked Zimmerman. Can you deny that?

There is a class of people in this nation, led by Sharpton and Jessie Jackson that are the problem profiteering pimps of race baiting who gain nothing from eliminating the source of barriers that block progress for black people. That is why they have nurtured the frenzy of hate against George Zimmerman.

More hate from Al Sharpton: I think that this is an atrocity. I think that it is probably one of the worst situations that I have seen. What this jury has done is establish a precedent that when you are young and fit a certain profile, you can be committing no crime, just bringing some Skittles and ice tea home to your brother and be killed and someone can claim self-defense, having been exposed with all kinds of lies, uh, all kinds of inconsistencies.

*******
FYI, the only crime committed that night was the assault and battery by Martin against Zimmerman.

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The late started on the left...and they continue the barrage even after the verdict.


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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2013 9:55:52 PM

>> I only know it was wrong. <<

The whole charge was wrong...Zimmerman committed no crime, the evidence showed that...it was nothing more than a political ploy to try and appease Jackson and Sharpton.



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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:09:22 PM

George Zimmerman may indeed have a civil rights claim against the State of Florida. It seems that the State's Attorney took actions against him that they normally wouldn't have taken. Then circumvented the Grand Jury procedure to try him even though an investigation showed it to be self-defense.

There is no way that This Administration is going to bring George Zimmerman up on civil rights violations. If they were to lose a high profile case like that one, it would be a black eye on the President himself right before the midterms.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:06:35 AM

He should not have been charged with Murder-2, on that point I agree. I won't pretend to have inside information as to the motive behind the charge. I only know it was wrong.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 12:42:57 AM


Weaslespit, "So much hate being spread over so many channels..."

Agreed.

That is what brought the state to charge an innocent man with 2nd degree murder w2ith no evidence to support the charge in the first place.

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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:46:53 PM

Forget the Zimmerman trial.. Obama is a big loser, period.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 10:45:56 PM

George Zimmerman accused the Sanford police department of corruption more than a year before he shot Trayvon Martin, saying at a public forum the agency covered up the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a white officer.
"I would just like to state that the law is written in black and white," Zimmerman said during a 90-second statement to city commissioners at a community forum. "It should not and cannot be enforced in the gray for those who are in the thin blue line."
The forum took place on Jan. 8, 2011, days after a video of the beating went viral on the Internet and then-Sanford Police Chief Brian Tooley was forced to retire. Tooley's department faced criticism for dragging its feet in arresting Justin Collison, the son of a police lieutenant.
"I'd like to know what action the commission is taking in order to repeal Mr. Tooley's pension," Zimmerman said to the commission. "I'm not asking you to repeal his pension; I believe he's already forfeited his pension by his illegal cover-up in corruption in what happened in his department." . . .
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:26:46 PM

"Why do so many not want to hear the stats for black on black crime, and stats for blacks committing crimes in general?"

What does black-on-black crime have to do with the fact that Zimmerman should have stayed in his car and Martin should have called 911?

Or is that just more race baiting?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:25:40 PM

"That should be an easy win for Zimmerman. However once he wins that lawsuit I bet Martin's money grubbing family will be after him."

So much hate being spread over so many channels...
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:25:49 PM

>> There are also many blacks that defend zimmerman, or at least say they don't think he is racist, they are called every name in the book by the hang zimmerman crowd. <<

There is an awesome amount of peer pressure in the black community to conform. My oldest sons best friend is black and he is constantly being called names like "Oreo Cookie" or worse because he refuses to talk "black" or dress "black"...etc
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:06:11 PM

Why do so many not want to hear the stats for black on black crime, and stats for blacks committing crimes in general?

If it was just sharpton, and jackson, it wouldn't be so bad, but they are far from being the only blacks wanting a investigation because of race.

There are also many blacks that defend zimmerman, or at least say they don't think he is racist, they are called every name in the book by the hang zimmerman crowd.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 4:53:27 PM

There have been a handful of protests over the last few years led by and for black communities suffering from high crime. None of these marches have been well attended. They have occurred in Chicago, New York, Newark, Pittsburgh and Michigan. As far as I can tell neither Jessie nor Al were at any of them.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 4:49:26 PM

Zimmerman has already filed a lawsuit against NBC. That should be an easy win for Zimmerman. However once he wins that lawsuit I bet Martin's money grubbing family will be after him.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 3:13:11 PM

They do not see that as race baiting, Mr. Spit. It is their version of fact. Typical.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 2:54:33 PM

"I DO believe that there should be a civil rights trial in the Zimmerman case--a trial with Zimmerman as the PLAINTIFF ..."

Talk about race baiting. Yikes. Sure does look like that door swings both ways.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 11:19:24 PM

Another One sent me and btc1 the following perspective, with a few more perps added (by me)...

I DO believe that there should be a civil rights trial in the Zimmerman case--a trial with Zimmerman as the PLAINTIFF ...

with:

Angela Corey
Benjamin Crump
Barack Obama
Eric Holder
Charles Rangel
Al Sharpton
Jesse Jackson
NBC
HLN/CNN
ABC
CBS
New York Times
Washington Post
LA Times
Chicago Tribune
Huffington Post

... and the rest of the liberal race-mongers, et al., as DEFENDANTS.


[Edited by: ministorage at 7/16/2013 11:23:10 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:37:01 PM

"Why no street demonstrations and demands that Holder do something about all of those killings? Why all the discomfort and news time about one man killed by another when literally thousands more take place and not much at all is said? Why no demands to examine the racial basis for all these thousands of killings."

Look at the blow-back Obama caught after his commencement speech at Morehouse college (where he was right on). Changes like that don't happen overnight and must come from within... There are marches against black-on-black violence, btw. They just don't make national news most of the time.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:34:00 PM

"spit ignores truth and tries to divert agenda to his liking - come on spit"

Talk about diverting the agenda! Hello pot!
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:32:27 PM

spit ignores truth and tries to divert agenda to his liking - come on spit,

SMH

ROFL

ummm ok
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:30:49 PM

Classic Strawman - maybe but its also a extreme case of losing sight of what is more important.

Why no street demonstrations and demands that Holder do something about all of those killings? Why all the discomfort and news time about one man killed by another when literally thousands more take place and not much at all is said? Why no demands to examine the racial basis for all these thousands of killings.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:24:28 PM

"11,106 Blacks were Murdered by OTHER BLACKS"

Classic strawman.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:18:33 PM

Sean Hannity, on most of his show today, along with guests like Pat Buchanan, demonized Eric Holder and President Obama or even thinking about investigating this case for a violation of civil rights. It was a deplorable accusation of the left race baiting. I have not heard one person on the left urge this investigation based on race, with the exception of Sharpton and Jackon. Simply because Sharpton and Jackson voice their opinions all of us on the left must take responsibility for their comments! Racial division is promoted by the left. Apparently it is important to the right to keep it going as there and as here. Otherwise, why would the right compare THIS case to killings of blacks by blacks in Chicago and elsewhere. Fear of race is kept as a topic in all these cases, by the right.

My point is, maybe this case should be investigated for a violation of civil rights. Violations are NOT always based on race hatred.

In a civil trial, in addition, he would be compelled to testify.

I do not want to "hang Zimmerman at any cost". I do want to know what he actually meant when he said, "these F---ing ________s all ways get away. I would really like to get to the bottom of his intent. I know many of you on the right trust he said punks. That was never as clear to me as you, since who he suspected were black suspects. His profiling still should be questioned. I do not think we have really gotten to the bottom of this for my satisfaction. I just want clarity.

[Edited by: btc1 at 7/16/2013 7:23:02 PM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:08:05 PM

We have a huge problem in this country

SHARE the facts!!

In the 513 Days Between the Trayvon Shooting and the Zimmerman Verdict,

11,106 Blacks were Murdered by OTHER BLACKS

Fraternal Order of Police vice president Frank Gale, during recent testimony before a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee. "As a black law-enforcement officer, I sure would like to see a serious approach to the epidemic levels of violence that exist in far too many of our black communities," he said.



A 2009 study by Iowa State analyzing other data estimated that a single murder runs up more than $17 million in costs to the police, courts, prisons, social services and to the families of victims and suspects.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:04:57 PM

"evidently the left, and the race baiters think it does."

I'm not saying that it is only coming from one side (Jackson Jr., Sharpton, etc). But we do have clear examples here of the right offering such ridiculous, polarizing assertions...
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 3:33:14 PM

no, btc1, the real losers are those that want to hang zimmerman at any cost, and keep trying tp paint him as a racist, when the fbi said they could find no proof of it.

weaselspit, keep spewing this polarizing vitriol it helps. evidently the left, and the race baiters think it does.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 2:21:17 PM

Keep spewing this polarizing vitriol. It helps... <s>
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 1:44:48 PM

Maddog - maybe if Obama had a son he would look like him - lets hope not.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 1:29:52 PM

Obama was the one who inserted himself in this issue...no one forced him to say If he had a son he'd be like Trayvon (a pothead who was kicked out of school for drugs and vandalism).
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 1:16:19 PM

"Obama Big Loser in Zimmerman Trial"

Amazing what people will try to connect the President to (regardless of party). Good grief... So much hate and bias.

Go hug your kids or something and do something productive for our civilization rather than spreading hate and cowardice through your keyboard (especially jeskibuff).

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 7/16/2013 1:17:03 PM EST]
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 1:08:18 PM

Where is Obama, Al and Jessie for this?


Justice For Daryl
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 1:02:52 PM

"The Stand Your Ground Law and Self Defense Law in Florida need revisions."

1) Zimmerman did not use Florida's "Stand Your Ground Law" as a defense at his trial.
2) All 50 states (including yours) recognize a persons right of "self defense".
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 6:45:31 AM

The real losers are those here who are showing their glee over the acquittal of the murderer. The Stand Your Ground Law and Self Defense Law in Florida need revisions.

If, Zimmerman did not have those to back him up, the coward would have stayed in his car.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 5:12:25 AM

good news!
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 1:59:02 AM

Not only does he look stupid, Chief moron Holder says "no worries, I'll get him!".

This administration is so belligerent now -- they can't control themselves.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 11:32:07 PM

By the way the White African American President looks really foolish in his comments now doesnt he.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 11:31:18 PM

Yeah, btc, keep believing your own garbage. Keep that in your own backyard and quite spreading it around here. Your posts out your true feelings.

and then we have -

". This sight will not let me post from facebook!"

Well either put on your glasses or go see an doctor to get a Rx for some corrective lenses.
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greentre
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 9:33:48 PM

Yeah, btc1, keep believing your own garbage. Keep that in your own backyard and quit spreading it around here. Your post outs your true feelings.

Considering no one I know of who believes in gun rights is rejoicing Martins death or jumping up and down. We do rejoice in an innocent man being released from the circus he's been subjected to.

Now it's time to watch the manure being spread by some 'holier-than-thou' cretins about prosecuting Zimmerman on civil tripe.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 8:22:07 PM

. This sight will not let me post from facebook!


[Edited by: btc1 at 7/15/2013 8:25:40 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 7:55:24 PM

Yeah, jeski, keep believing your own garbage. Keep that in your own backyard and quite spreading it around here. Your post outs your true feelings.
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djvang
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 7:00:16 PM

I think the big loser is this country. It's becoming obvious that more and more people now just eagerly and fanatically believe what they WANT to believe and facts simply don't matter. I'll bet 99% of people made up their minds within 10 seconds of first hearing about the issue. Now that makes me fear for the future of this country.
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 5:42:59 PM

btc1 said: "A kid is dead and they are rejoicing!"

Uh, you're way off the mark, pal.

No one's rejoicing that a kid is dead. Despite Trayvon's spotty drug abuse, gangsta'-wannabe, time-in-juvenile-detention record, there's always hope that such a human waste product can be reformed - there are countless incidents like that. Hey, even former terrorist Shoebat Walid now fights against his former colleagues. So, there's ALWAYS hope.

The rejoicing that you hear is the sweet sound of justice prevailing. An innocent man acting in self-defense wasn't successfully railroaded by racist thugs like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. That's really something to be happy about, unless of course you hate to see justice carried out!
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 5:21:32 PM

"Now obama says he won't try to influence the doj on deciding if they will file charges against zimmerman. does everyone believe that?"

Why would he have to try to influence it? Do you really think he & Holder have different opinions on the issue?
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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 5:11:17 PM

This is the real problem of this trial. The gloating afterward.

A kid is dead and they are rejoicing!

Gun rights advocates are jumping up and down all over!
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 5:08:40 PM

Now obama says he won't try to influence the doj on deciding if they will file charges against zimmerman. does everyone believe that?
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 3:24:48 PM



"Then he uses the trial result to push for gun control. Guess what having a gun is what saved George Zimmerman, not the other way around."

Obama will use any excuse for gun control.

It's the muslim way!

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btc1
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 11:16:25 AM

Clif, why is the moon always shining on the right? They will tie everything back to Obama. Deranged as they are.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 11:02:01 AM

Do you think Obama would ever let a kid who has been tossed out of school three times and suspended for drug possession go out with one of his daughters?
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 11:00:47 AM

>> Politicians of all stripes would do well to resolve the crime and violence problems in their own backyards before they start commenting on crimes in jurisdictions 1000 miles away. <<


Amen!!!
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 8:23:05 AM

Politicians of all stripes would do well to resolve the crime and violence problems in their own backyards before they start commenting on crimes in jurisdictions 1000 miles away.
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