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Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 5:43:01 PM

When was he lying - then or now - or maybe both - after all he is a politician!
>>>First, let’s back up a little bit. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid plans to meet Thursday with his fellow Democrats to discuss taking extraordinary measures—commonly called the “Nuclear Option”—that would do away with filibusters of some of the President’s nominees facing Senate confirmation. This would mean that for certain people, like Cabinet officials, a minority of senators would no longer be able to block up-or-down votes by symbolically saying they want to debate indefinitely.

That is a big deal, because for several generations there has been a clear precedent in the Senate: If you want to call a contentious vote, you need to gather together 60 senators to vote for that vote. If you can’t muster 60, then the 40 or so who object can prevent the majority from calling a vote. In effect, the Senate has long operated in exactly the way fourth graders are taught democracies don’t work: The minority can rule.

Once upon a time, this was only occasionally a problem, since only extraordinarily controversial bills, like the Civil Rights Act, ever faced a filibuster. But that has changed in recent decades. Now routine measures, like presidential nominees, face filibuster in the Senate. And it keeps getting worse. Democrats filibustered an extraordinary number of George W. Bush‘s judicial nominees, and Republicans have mostly returned the favor, throwing in a bunch of cabinet level jobs as well, including the recently appointed post of Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Agency.

So Reid is furious about this, in part because President Obama is furious, and Unions are furious, and major Democratic donors are furious. Or at least his aides and advisors say Reid is furious about this. Because the tricky thing with these sorts high-stakes, front-page, Senate standoffs is that little is ever what it seems to be.

Back in 2005, when Democrats were in the minority blocking nominees with filibusters, Republicans were furious, Karl Rove was furious, and they all threatened to evoke the nuclear option. But they apparently never meant it, because now that Republicans are in the minority, they are just fine doing what they once called “unconstitutional.”

Reid also finds himself twisted in knots. He has devoted his entire life to Senate, and he believes deeply in its rare role as a collaborative, slow-moving body, where “the Minority has a voice and the ability to check the power of the Majority.” Just eight years ago, on May 22, 2005, Reid said the following words about a Republican attempt to evoke the nuclear option with respect to judicial nominees, “That contempt for the rule of law and the law of rules will set a new precedent – an illegal precedent – that will always remain on the pages of Senate history – a precedent that will thrust us toward totally eliminating the filibuster in all Senate proceedings, a precedent that will eliminate the essential deliberative nature of the Senate – which was designed by the Founding Fathers to make it a counterbalance for the passions embodied in the House of Representatives.”

Two days earlier, he said on the Senate floor, “The duties of the United States Senate are set forth in the Constitution of the United States. Nowhere in that document does it say the Senate has a duty to give presidential nominees “an up-or-down vote.”

Three days before that, before the C-Span cameras, he said, “The Senate in which I have spent the last 20 years of my life is a body in which the rules are sacrosanct. We may choose to amend the rules by two-thirds vote. We may enter into unanimous consent to waive the rules. But never before in the history of the Senate has a partisan majority sought to break the rules in order to achieve momentary political advantage.”<<<

More and more Dingy Harry is resembling something the cat dragged in.
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Sophomore Author Washington

Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 6:14:55 PM

<<I define a hypocrite as one who says one thing one day/time period and then says the opposite the next day/time period. Dingy Harry Reid fits that definition! >>

Both sides are guilty of this if people are honest. I remember when people opposed the Patriot Act saying it was open to be abused and those who opposed it were accused of being terrorist supporters and not caring about the country. Now we all see how is can be abused.
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Champion Author Phoenix

Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 6:08:56 PM

Cliff: <<<"The extreme far right only knows how to post insulting and mostly untrue headlines.">>>

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Champion Author Utah

Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 5:49:53 PM

e-jeepin - I agree on McCain needs to retire and go away. He makes RINO's look positively rabidly conservative.

Cliff what is untrue of what I posted? The truth is that when he was in the minority he was shocked that anyone would want to do exactly what he is talking about doing right now. That brands him as a hypocrite!

I define a hypocrite as one who says one thing one day/time period and then says the opposite the next day/time period. Dingy Harry Reid fits that definition!
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Champion Author Wisconsin

Joined:Sep 2003
Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 3:38:49 PM

The extreme far right only knows how to post insulting and mostly untrue headlines.
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Champion Author Michigan

Joined:May 2007
Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 1:49:03 PM

gocat, Reid is the man in charge of the most useless Senate in modern American history. Not many Republicans are exempt for this disgrace. Who here defends McCain or his buddies? Anyone anyone? NOBODY! I've despised McCain for a decade because he has signed up for almost every loser Democrat sponsored idea that floats down the aisle! I WANT THEM ALL REMOVED FORCEFULLY!

Two members sent from every State to represent the best interests of their State. Yet Nevada, California, and New York mandates to the Nation -- all Democrats and pretty much has been this way in my lifetime.

Nothing good comes of this domination
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Champion Author South Carolina

Joined:Apr 2006
Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 11:46:30 AM

You would think con politicians have halos and wings. The real problem with Harry among the complainers is that he is not a con. The only politicians that don't lie or are hypocritical are Dead.
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Champion Author Indiana

Joined:Feb 2004
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 6:08:03 PM

reid, along with some other old farts on both sides need to go, and yes sometimes senility does seem to be affecting their thinking process, they say some of the darndest things. Oh wait, isn't that what we say about children?
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Champion Author Utah

Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 6:01:33 PM

WiMike - it is a similar topic but not the same. My topic is about Dingy Harry's flat out dishonesty.

If that sounds insulting too bad. Dingy Harry is a lying hypocritical )_*&(%(*&)(&*%(*%^)(*&)(*^%(*&^_)(*&)(*^%T)(^(&$()&_)(&*^%(*)^Y_&.

And besides that I dont like what he does.
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Champion Author Pensacola

Joined:Oct 2011
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 5:57:43 PM

Harry isn't a hypocrite; he's senile and doesn't remember doing that stuff himself!

Silver Alert!! Senile old man lost in Washington Senate!!
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All-Star Author Tucson

Joined:Nov 2012
Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 5:50:45 PM

Fly..... you know there is already a topic for the exact same thing with a much less insulting headline.

Fillibuster thread

You know better
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