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AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2013 10:33:01 AM

Great article by CNN.

On President Obama:

"I don't think it does any good," he said. "It's a hard job. He's got plenty on his agenda. It's difficult. A former president doesn't need to make it any harder. Other presidents have taken different decisions; that's mine."

I think that was a shot a little shot at Clinton and Carter for their constant criticism.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 4:47:13 PM

"IMO, she was every bit as qualified or more so than bho."

Very true. Palin is very qualified at being a quitter....

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 7/25/2013 4:47:45 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 12:22:24 PM

>>I think Palin was a great breath of fresh air<<

...not to mention a breath of fresh airhead.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 10:07:11 AM

"IMO, she was every bit as qualified or more so than bho."

If you are talking about beauty pageants you might be right.

If W ran against her in a primary, whom would you choose? Personally, I would choose class every time.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 10:05:19 AM

"I think Palin was a great breath of fresh air, someone that was not a professional politician, someone that spoke their mind without first running trial balloons. This is indeed what this country needs, someone like this, someone who can simply do what is right for the country."

The only thing she did 'right' is what was right for her agenda. Unfortunately, speaking ones mind (especially when it is on the very extreme end of the political spectrum) is not what this country needs right now. What we need arecool heads a compromise, not flamethrowing quotes designed to attack ones opponents. Similar examples can be found from the Dems as well, so that is not a GOP-only criticism.

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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2013 6:54:28 PM

Even though this is the elder Bush...I thought this was pretty cool.
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 6:46:32 PM

IMO, she was every bit as qualified or more so than bho.
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 4:14:32 PM

I think Palin was a great breath of fresh air, someone that was not a professional politician, someone that spoke their mind without first running trial balloons. This is indeed what this country needs, someone like this, someone who can simply do what is right for the country.

I will say I was disappointed when she resigned from the governorship after being harassed by liberal Alaskans. If you can't take the heat, you need to stay away from the fire, and also, after agreeing to do a job, and then bailing is never cool either.
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 4:02:38 PM

"Picking Palin is the ONLY thing that got him any traction with conservatives."

Hard line conservatives, but not form the entire base. She gave him a lot of momentum in the women vote for a couple of weeks as well; then people started to listen to her talk (and we got over the fact that she was attractive).

Game Over. McCain loses. I can tell you from personal experience she is the reason I decided to vote for Obama over McCain (even though Biden is no crown jewel either).
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 4:00:04 PM

"Where has the press said anything about fuel prices also? I would love to see where top Republicans have come out and boldly claimed that Obama is responsible for high gas prices."

Keystone XL Pipeline. Palin's 'drill baby drill'... etc.
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 11:11:16 AM

Your topic is right on AFSNCO; that's class. Amen to that Panama. Picking Palin is the ONLY thing that got him any traction with conservatives.

[Edited by: no1doc at 7/13/2013 11:14:42 AM EST]
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 10:57:44 AM

Really weasel? Want to show me where they have made it a campaign, like Pelosi and Obama did, when Bush was a president? Where has the press said anything about fuel prices also? I would love to see where top Republicans have come out and boldly claimed that Obama is responsible for high gas prices.
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 10:55:08 AM


Weaslespit, "If McCain had picked a better VP... "

If McCain had picked a different VP he would have lost by a wider margin.

Palin had wider and deeper support in the Party than McCain had.

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2013 10:42:55 AM

"I know but it was standard practice during the Bush years...Bush and Cheney were blamed, blamed, and blamed some more. Obama took office and it became a "market" driven price."

Which is what the right was saying when Bush was President (being a market-driven price) - now they have simply reversed roles to campaign in today's 24/7 campaign culture.

It wasn't right when the Dems did it and it isn't right when the GOP does it - which is why I can not fully support either party.

If McCain had picked a better VP...
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 10:40:46 AM

Weasle, you want to have fun...listen to the audio of then Senator Obama blaming Bush for $3.40 a gallon gas...or Pelosi going on and on about gas prices and the Bush Administration.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 10:07:13 AM

"Blaming either is a folly - of course,"

I know but it was standard practice during the Bush years...Bush and Cheney were blamed, blamed, and blamed some more. Obama took office and it became a "market" driven price.
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2013 6:42:31 PM

"--Must be something in the air. I post but they do not comprehend."

No, they don't. I even had one tell me that they thought I was a Tea Partier... Too funny.
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2013 2:46:05 PM

AC-302: "SemiSteve carped about George Bush, and even questioned the sanity of Dick Cheney. All well and good, but then if you're going to complain about Bush, you also have to equally complain about Obama for the same reasons. If Bush was wrong, and his policies were so bad, then why is Obama continuing and even EXPANDING many of them?"

--Have you not bothered to read any of the NUMEROUS posts I have made complaining about Obama's survelliance and use of drones to kill innocents? Nor the topics I created?

theTower: "Funny how i don't see you rage about Obama /Biden the way you just did about Bush/Cheney.
Wrong may be wrong but you certainly don't seem to get as upset about it when it's Obama.
So suffice it to say I don't believe you when you say you contacted the WH."

--Another demonstration of selective memory.

AFSNCO: "Really? Hmm...sure seems to be the opposite to me. You had a complete hatred of Bush and Cheney. Yet, as has already been pointed out, Obama has taken some of the Bush era programs and expanded them and you have really said nothing. No...wait, you have defended them at times."

--Must be something in the air. I post but they do not comprehend.

Obama's Drones Kill More School Children Than Mass Murderers With Guns

Obama Fails To Follow Through On Financial Fraud Unit

Whole topics are easy to find. Individual posts are too time-consuming to locate. And why should I re-post things which have been demonstrated to go in one ear and out the other? I refuse to spend my time reposting things where were either not read or not comprehended the first time.

Suffice to say. I have been critical of Obama. I know better what I post than you. I wrote it. If you can't read it that's your problem.

And once again. This topic is about Bush. It is not about Obama any more than it is about me.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 11:15:09 PM

"It is just like how Bush got blamed for high gas prices and now the "educated left" says it is a market thing and the president has no control. Amazing how that happened..."

Blaming either is a folly - of course, I am not on the left nor the right so...
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 5:39:48 PM

theTower: "And the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
Do you hold the same feelings about Obama's egregious lack of accountability for similar if not worse offenses?"

--I absolutely do. And I have written the WH and told them so, just as I did when W was there. Wrong is wrong.

Where is your topic on this semisteve, rnorm, any of you left wing Bush haters? Or does this not fall under wrong is wrong ?

"The George W. Bush administration had actually begun phasing out the Byrne program. It had been funded at a half-billion dollars per year through most of the Clinton presidency. By the time he left office in 2008, Bush had pared it to $170 million a year. But the grants have long been a favorite of Vice President Joe Biden. And so Obama campaigned on fully restoring their funding, declaring that the Byrne grant program “has been critical to creating the anti-gang and anti-drug task forces our communities need.” On that promise at least, he has delivered. As part of the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, Obama infused the program with $2 billion, by the far the largest budget in its history."

When leftwing websites start going after "The One" you know we have a real problem on our hands.



[Edited by: theTower at 7/10/2013 5:44:45 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 5:30:50 PM

The money powers in the FED picked Obama knowing he would be a better puppet for them than either McCain or Romney.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 5:20:50 PM

"So, we "cons" haven't forgotten anything, you see. It's just what you choose to "remember" is simply a figment of your imagination."

It is just like how Bush got blamed for high gas prices and now the "educated left" says it is a market thing and the president has no control. Amazing how that happened...
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 2:08:38 PM

I think, given his limited intellect and speaking ability, he is just glad to have escaped intact.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 1:22:00 PM

"but since he (Bush) left office he has kept a rather low profile, and I agree that he has conducted himself in a classy manner."

I have to agree with that as well. He might have been the best POTUS, but he has certainly conducted himself well after leaving office.

"I guess that childishness goes with the territory on the left"

Said the child on the right?

"That post was nothing but a personal attack, nothing to do with politics or the topic at hand."

He seems to think expressing himself in this manner once in a while is necessary, then appear flabbergasted when the favor is returned.
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2013 11:45:54 AM

"It appears that our lefties seem to have an affinity for dictators and terrorists, doesn't it?"

You mean like the backing of the coup by Augutso Pinochet in 1973? Ford was President.

How about the backing of the Argentine dictator during their "dirty war" by Reagan?

Yep, the right is completely free of that kind of affinity.

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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2013 7:56:28 AM

AC-302 said: "As to Jimmy Carter, I found it incredibly offensive that he wrote a book PRAISING the Palestinians, yet blaming Israel (and by extension, Jews of the world) 100% for the problems of the Middle East. And Yassir Arafat wasn't a terrorist? This is where Carter has, IMHO, fallen off the rails and parted with HIS sanity."

Don't forget his praise of Hugo Chavez. It appears that our lefties seem to have an affinity for dictators and terrorists, doesn't it?
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2013 7:54:59 AM

gocatgo said: "yeah like the wrecked economy Bush left. How soon cons seem to forget."

You are completely incapable of explaining how Bush "wrecked the economy", simply because you refuse to acknowledge/believe exactly how it was wrecked. Yeah, we've heard about the "unfunded wars", but those wars continued while Obozo got into office, so how did they cause us to fall off a fiscal cliff to begin with and how could we ever possibly recover if Obozo continued on that path? As to the other "factor" you liberals account for the "GWB trashing of the economy", the tax cuts he enacted actually helped accelerate the economy out of the slumps that Enron, 9/11 and the Clinton dot com collapses put us into. Thems the facts!

You refuse to acknowledge the obvious - the subprime lending fiasco, and that's because it was created primarily by Dumbocrats. That fiasco created the fiscal cliff about 5 years ago and we fell hard because of it. Once we fell, the damage was done and we're slowly crawling out of it.

So, we "cons" haven't forgotten anything, you see. It's just what you choose to "remember" is simply a figment of your imagination.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 3:13:23 PM

<<<--I absolutely do. And I have written the WH and told them so, just as I did when W was there. >>>

Received any letters from the IRS or noticed any funny background sounds on your cell phone lately?
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 10:52:45 AM

"That post is full of it. It is about as inaccurate as possible. No basis in fact. I have repeatedly attacked the current administration in topics as well as creating entire threads of my own to challenge the digressions. I may defend SOME of what the WH does but certainly not ALL."

Really? Hmm...sure seems to be the opposite to me. You had a complete hatred of Bush and Cheney. Yet, as has already been pointed out, Obama has taken some of the Bush era programs and expanded them and you have really said nothing. No...wait, you have defended them at times.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 7:37:09 PM

"--I absolutely do. And I have written the WH and told them so, just as I did when W was there. Wrong is wrong."

Funny how i don't see you rage about Obama /Biden the way you just did about Bush/Cheney.
Wrong may be wrong but you certainly don't seem to get as upset about it when it's Obama.
So suffice it to say I don't believe you when you say you contacted the WH.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 7:10:45 PM

SemiSteve carped about George Bush, and even questioned the sanity of Dick Cheney. All well and good, but then if you're going to complain about Bush, you also have to equally complain about Obama for the same reasons. If Bush was wrong, and his policies were so bad, then why is Obama continuing and even EXPANDING many of them? You cannot criticize one, without criticism of the other. Otherwise that would make you incredibly hypocritical.

As to Jimmy Carter, I found it incredibly offensive that he wrote a book PRAISING the Palestinians, yet blaming Israel (and by extension, Jews of the world) 100% for the problems of the Middle East. And Yassir Arafat wasn't a terrorist? This is where Carter has, IMHO, fallen off the rails and parted with HIS sanity.

Oh and the HFH build - were the Secret Service detail ALSO helping to nail framing together?
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 3:12:11 PM

>>>Bell, "damage" yeah like the wrecked economy Bush left. How soon cons seem to forget.

Pan, "$15,000 damage" the above comment is for you too.

Johnny, "messy offices etc", is nothing compared to the messy economy.

You can put lip stick on a pig but in the end you still have a pig.”<<<

What does any of this have to do with the vandalism of the White House?
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 2:48:54 PM

Truthfully, President Obama has respect and maybe even reverence for the Office of the Presidency. George W Bush has tried to set a new standard for former Presidents that hopefully, Barrack H Obama will join him in. The Ex-President's Club is a very small club. I agree with the OP that in respect to George W Bush's conduct, since leaving office he has been a complete gentleman.

He declines to speak about his successor. He made sure there were no pranks or damage upon leaving office. In fact, he allowed the incoming administration to have unprecedented access to the White House and executive offices.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 1:40:38 PM

How did this get to be about Obama?

Oh yeah.

Let a few conservatives in and every topic turns into a bash Obama thread.

The good that Bush did is heavily outwieghed by the bad.

He is smart to keep his mouth shut and appear foolish.

The decider finally made the right decision.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:50:40 AM


SemiSteve, "I absolutely do. And I have written the WH and told them so, just as I did when W was there"

Good luck with that one. You have placed yourself on the enemies list of an administration that does not feel itself to be constrained by the law or even the Constitution - and which has been shown to use its governmental power to persecute its enemies.



[Edited by: Panama19 at 7/5/2013 11:52:35 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:33:34 AM

ss: "And eroding our right of privacy with domestic surveillance. He also was the one who selected Cheney and must be held accountable for all that man's offenses to sanity. Cheney Rumsfeld Ashcroft should be in prison. For those he must always be held accountable"

theTower: "And the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
Do you hold the same feelings about Obama's egregious lack of accountability for similar if not worse offenses?"

--I absolutely do. And I have written the WH and told them so, just as I did when W was there. Wrong is wrong.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:30:47 AM

AFSNCO: "Panama, yet SemiSteve will continue to defend all the crazy junk this administration has done. SMH! "

--That post is full of it. It is about as inaccurate as possible. No basis in fact. I have repeatedly attacked the current administration in topics as well as creating entire threads of my own to challenge the digressions. I may defend SOME of what the WH does but certainly not ALL. That post was nothing but a personal attack, nothing to do with politics or the topic at hand. Total Gossipy cheap shot. Making things up about other people. Like trying to start a fire with a wet noodle and a bottle of hand lotion.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 10:28:56 AM

The economy damage was policy issues that you don't like or agree with. The damage done to the Administration Offices was vandalism. It was pure disrespect for the Office of the Presidency. But to be truthful, Bill Clinton while he was a good, if not great leader never exhibited any respect for the Office of the Presidency.

This lack of respect for the job naturally filtered down to the subordinates who weren't happy about losing their jobs. After all, Bill Clinton had so little respect for the office that he had oral sex in the Oval Office. Even Jack Kennedy didn't go that far.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 10:05:55 AM

Bell, "damage" yeah like the wrecked economy Bush left. How soon cons seem to forget.

Pan, "$15,000 damage" the above comment is for you too.

Johnny, "messy offices etc", is nothing compared to the messy economy.

You can put lip stick on a pig but in the end you still have a pig.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 6:49:42 AM

i heard that bill left his trunk monkey in a desk drawer and hillary left her - - - oh never mind
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2013 5:50:31 PM

>>>>Did anyone ever do that thing where you get a line of people and say something to the person at one end and see what it becomes by the time its passed down to the other end?

So, "glued desk drawers" becomes "glued locks shut" someday may become "welded the front doors closed"...<<<<<<

That’s why I went to the actual GOA report and read it for the facts. That’s why it was posted here and the proof of vandalism of the White House only leaves the defendants of the Clintons with petty nit picking the deference between drawers glued shut with key broken off in the locks instead of glue in the locks.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2013 6:36:31 AM

greentre said: >Did anyone ever do that thing where you get a line of people and say something to the person at one end and see what it becomes by the time its passed down to the other end?

So, "glued desk drawers" becomes "glued locks shut" someday may become "welded the front doors closed"...<

That GAO report is 220 pages long!! It's not like damage was limited to a couple of things, easy to keep track of. Accounting for the damage done by the left is a tedious process...we're getting to the point where it's easy to confuse and intermingle the details of all of Obozo's many failures. For instance, how much money did Americans lose on Beacon Power, Abound, A123, Solyndra, the GM bailout, etc.??
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 8:10:59 PM

George and Laura have been class acts. Through all the finger pointing and the blame game, they have had plenty of opportunities to respond, however, they have taken the high road and let this current administration spiral out of control. Never in all my years, have I heard or seen more potshots taken a former president than from this president and all his cronies, most of all, Nancy Pelosi.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 7:31:09 PM

Argue anyway you want. It was thousands of dollars worth of damage to government property. It was conduct beneath that level of government. It was juvenile and petty.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 7:27:18 PM

Did anyone ever do that thing where you get a line of people and say something to the person at one end and see what it becomes by the time its passed down to the other end?

So, "glued desk drawers" becomes "glued locks shut" someday may become "welded the front doors closed"...
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 7:02:05 PM

Bell; I think Carter was a well intentioned person; he is probably a good person to boot. The only problem I had was he was the wrong man for the office at the time. I didn’t like the way he handled some of the problems he faced but I never got the impression he was being deceptive or trying to mislead the nation.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 6:22:51 PM

NickHammer said: >So, in summary, you wrote something that wasn't true, got called on it, then claimed that it was those who called you on it who are "ignorant of the facts".<

Okay, so it wasn't locks that were glued...it was desk drawers and keyboards, some with the space bars glued down and some where the "W" keys were removed and glued to walls.

As for lock damage, READ THE REPORT!!!

There were keys broken off in locks and when locksmiths opened some cabinets they found Gore/Lieberman stickers! There were locks that appeared to be smashed.

You lefties are just spoiled little brats!
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 6:14:50 PM

Panama19 said: "I guess that childishness goes with the territory on the left."

Normally Panama, I applaud your "wordsmithery", but you clearly were off-base in using the word "guess" in the above statement.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 5:26:46 PM

Nick, read Jayrad's post which is the 5th one in this thread. He called it an "urban myth" that things were done by the Clinton staffers and linked it to some left wing rag website.
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 4:16:34 PM

ss: "And eroding our right of privacy with domestic surveillance. He also was the one who selected Cheney and must be held accountable for all that man's offenses to sanity. Cheney Rumsfeld Ashcroft should be in prison. For those he must always be held accountable"

And the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
Do you hold the same feelings about Obama's egregious lack of accountability for similar if not worse offenses?



[Edited by: theTower at 7/3/2013 4:21:32 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 3:30:39 PM

>>I wonder why some of the posters here would claim that the vandalism of the White House didn’t happen when it was so easy to find the truth?<<

>>Liberals can lie all they want but it did happen.<<

johnny, you're generally a reasonable guy. Since it's "so easy to find the truth", please list all "of the posters here [who] claim that the vandalism of the White House didn’t happen", and all of the lies you claim that liberals here told.
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