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btc1

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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2013 3:17:12 PM

Allison Lundergan Grimes is running.

Who is Allison Lundergan Grimes?

A formidable opponent. With big connections to the National Democratic Party and the Clintons.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 10:11:41 PM

Weasel: <<<"Might want to ask that same question of EZ since his comment was the condescending one aimed at btc after this thread had sat blissfully idle for 9 days...">>>

--My comment wasn't condescending, it was an observation from liberal elitist Jonathan Gruber, thus the quotation marks. I am just wondering aloud of how an idiot beat out a liar in Kentucky, and wondering if Grimes might not have been another liberal elitist counting on "stupid voters".

I suppose you're right, it doesn't matter, what matters is that we will receive a senator from Kentucky, the lesser of the two evils.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 7:11:32 PM

My neighbor in the business center asked me what I thought as to why Alison lost. I let him speak first. He said it had to be her bigoted, racist father. I smiled and said that is why I wanted you to go first. I have said, in so many words that same thing here and elsewhere. He related to me events that occurred when J. Lundergan had faced black opposition. I told him I was well aware of what happened during those two elections. It was a big reason, along with my personal experience working for his business and in his campaigns, that I had begun working to make sure he never won another election. Which he has not.

My neighbor is an African-American who worked on campaigns with my Dad. He told me, Alison could not get out the black voting majority simply because of her Dad. That is why they stayed home. That and the non-answer. He told me she may have been an Obama delegate, but, she would not answer because she did not vote for Obama. That is what the black voting majority thought. I can understand them thinking that.

Now, you know more of why I had problems supporting her at first. Still any Democrat has to be better than Mitch and his evil bunch of crazy 1% beholden only to the Kochs really. I had to support her. I could never have voted for a Republican supported by the Koch Brothers. Never will.

[Edited by: btc1 at 11/18/2014 7:14:30 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 4:02:57 PM

"btc1 - what happened to that political truce everyone was talking about in the other thread? Hmmm??"

Might want to ask that same question of EZ since his comment was the condescending one aimed at btc after this thread had sat blissfully idle for 9 days...
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 3:54:57 PM

btc1 - what happened to that political truce everyone was talking about in the other thread? Hmmm??
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 3:52:39 PM

btc: "EZExit, there were two stupid groups of voters here. The ones who were the sheep who voted for McConnell against Obama and then the ones who did not vote."


So the only "smart" voters where the people who voted for someone whose family you originally said was corrupt and that you would never vote for? Hahahahahahaha!!!



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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 1:09:19 PM

EZExit, there were two stupid groups of voters here. The ones who were the sheep who voted for McConnell against Obama and then the ones who did not vote.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 11:57:28 AM

I guess the confusion comes from the emphatic defeat that Democrats earned through their policies of the last six years. It must be that 2/3rds who couldn't be bothered to show up that the Democrats are counting as "theirs".
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 11:50:05 AM

"The Democrats have survived worse and we will this time as well. After all, we almost survived Reagan and his destruction of the economy as well as George W. Bush's disastrous economy! It will be hard for the American people, but, the Democrats will come roaring back to save it again. As we always do! "

How long will it take for the Repubs to destroy this recovery and put us all into antherone of their recessions?
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 11:21:48 AM

I did and she has turned out to be to liberal!!
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 10:32:57 AM

I think that Alison Grimes was banking on a majority of "stupid" voters in Kentucky, but that thought hadn't materialized for her. I still think that she would make a fine campaign manager for Hillary, perhaps Btc could put in a good word for her...
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2014 11:24:33 PM

Weaselspit said: "You gotta give them time to gloat, the left certainly did when Obama won and while this isn't as big of a victory, it was substantial none-the-less - especially given the smack talk leading up to Election Day ;)."

--Well, I'm pleased to see someone on the left acknowledge that fact. Yes, when Obama was elected the first time, some here wanted to shove it up our collective anuses. And IMHO, the trash talk was worse from the left than it was from the right, but that's my take. And yes, despite some who want to minimize it, the victory of the Reps, now taking the Senate and a WIDE margin in the House is substantial, and historic. It represents a resounding "meeehhh" from the American people to Obama's policies and those who are supporting them.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2014 8:24:01 PM

Gee I remember btc and his screeching against Rand Paul and how whoever the liberal candidate was that they would wipe up the floors with SENATOR Paul. When Rand won and took that Senate seat btc got real quiet on his chosen candidate. Now that he was again screeching for the looser he is trying to keep up the screeching for the liberals.

Btc - give it up - the voters are on to you. The looser in this discussion was supposed to buy the beer and pizza. Now I have been gone for a few days but I havent heard anyone say you fessed up and admitted yo were once more wrong and actually bought the winners what the loser was supposed to buy.

When are you gonna learn to stop badmouthing the folks who are not extreme libs like yourself?
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theTower
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:56:11 AM

"LOL!! So the right thinks i should just roll up in a ball in the corner and let them have the forum. Not a chance. That is what is getting to them."

It's more likely there's just no truth to anything you say anymore. The last few weeks you've stepped in it so deeply, it's doubtful you'll ever get out. Might as well just embrace what you really are, and always have been, and continue to let it fly.
At least that would be a step towards honesty.

[Edited by: theTower at 11/7/2014 7:58:06 AM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:53:23 AM

btc1: "So the right thinks i should just roll up in a ball in the corner and let them have the forum. Not a chance."

I don't think I or Panama19 ever intimated anything close to that. To the contrary, I encourage you and your pack of yellow dogs to tell all the lies and propaganda you want. It worked wonders this election.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:35:10 AM

btc1: "Oh, yeah! Busy for himself! That is all."

So, 276 bills he sponsored and co-sponsored in the past three-and-a-half years were all for himself?

"Dr. certified by himself, when the REAL certification group turned him down!"

Dr. Paul wasn't 'turned down'. He objected to the new certification rules for his specialty, for certifications after 1992, and their inherent unfairness. Even left-leaning doctors who have little in common with him politically, agree with him on that subject. This one calls it the "Certification Racket".

btc1: "I almost lost my dentures on that spittake!"

You should have taken better care of your teeth when you were younger. And you need to stop relying on disinformation from politicususa.

btc1: "He needs to take that 12 step program with his son! Only this would be for the fat liars of America!"

After just telling another whopper, is that a cry for help?

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/7/2014 7:39:03 AM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:30:51 AM

LOL!! So the right thinks i should just roll up in a ball in the corner and let them have the forum. Not a chance. That is what is getting to them.

The Democrats have survived worse and we will this time as well. After all, we almost survived Reagan and his destruction of the economy as well as George W. Bush's disastrous economy! It will be hard for the American people, but, the Democrats will come roaring back to save it again. As we always do!
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 1:05:24 AM


ministorage, "Instead of gracefully accepting the winner of this election, you're in full campaign mode, going for 2016, as your epithets, ad hominems and demagoguery continue unabated. As expected."

Well, he IS a liberal after all. That mode of thought is what makes them liberals in the first place.

Everything is political on the left, and their only aim is to win at any cost.

Same old, same old.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:15:06 PM

mini, "Dr. Paul is doing nothing else but running for President, Dr. Paul has been one of the hardest working, busiest Junior Senators in the history of the Senate. " I almost lost my dentures on that spittake!

Dr. certified by himself, when the REAL certification group turned him down! Oh, yeah! Busy for himself! That is all. He needs to take that 12 step program with his son! Only this would be for the fat liars of America!
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 6:18:20 PM

btc1: "Hal who?"

I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for your next bitter loser National Enquirer kind of post about... Oh wait...

btc1: "He (Paul) has done nothing specifically for Kentucky as Senator, but, run for President."

What? Do you mean PORK? Contrary of the LIE that you're trying to paint - that Dr. Paul is doing nothing else but running for President, Dr. Paul has been one of the hardest working, busiest Junior Senators in the history of the Senate.

Sponsor of 140 Amendments

Co-sponsor of 136 Amendments

You prove what I said below. Instead of gracefully accepting the winner of this election, you're in full campaign mode, going for 2016, as your epithets, ad hominems and demagoguery continue unabated. As expected.


[Edited by: ministorage at 11/6/2014 6:25:06 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 4:12:02 PM

Hal who? No chance in heck will he even make it past the primary if Comer has anything to do with it. therder, that was the Bluegrass Poll. So now you put your money on that?!!

Grimes will run for Senate for Paul's seat while he is running for President. He will be too busy to fight her. He will not be able to run against Obama nor on his own record. He has done nothing specifically for Kentucky as Senator, but, run for President.



[Edited by: btc1 at 11/6/2014 4:21:05 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:29:18 PM

Hal Heiner has a job ahead of him. more than 3/4 of respondents don't know who he is.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:26:25 PM

therder, you're welcome. A long time ago, Panama19 turned me on to tinyurl.com. I use it whenever I get "text deleted" in a link.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:25:04 PM


therder, I would be just as happy voting against Conway as Grimes.
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therder
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:21:26 PM

Thanks ministorage. I could not get that link to work so I posted another source.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:19:36 PM

Therder, here you go
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therder
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:14:39 PM

Looks like Allison Lundergan Grimes is damaged goods now.Half of Kentucky voters say no to idea of Grimes entering 2015 race for governor

[Edited by: therder at 11/6/2014 12:20:05 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:10:27 PM

SE3.5: "Whiners whine. Gloaters gloat. The twain shall never met."

I have responded to btc1's ridiculous commentary and continued demonization of the winner. Perhaps you consider that gloating. So be it.

"I shall ignore this topic hereafter."

Watch that screen door on the way out.

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/6/2014 12:11:21 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:06:23 PM

daylily: "btc1 are you ok?"

I think he's okay. The wailing and gnashing of teeth is expected. This morning it was about THIS blurry, ambiguous photo of a Duke basketball player, which McConnell's campaign team bought from a vendor for use in an ad last March, and was supposed to be representing UK basketball (which Jerry Grimes seized on immediately).

Yesterday, it was about McConnell being apparently responsible for an earthquake near Hazard, Kentucky ... btc1: "Well, it has started. This is just the beginning of the end days for Kentucky. Thanks Mitch."

With his demonizing of Rand Paul and his 2010 losses as a guide, I'm fairly confident btc1 won't be moving on eventually. This loss stings. He'll be stewing on this one right into 2016. He's in full campaign mode.

Looking forward to tomorrow morning's tabloid entertainment.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:48:05 AM

"They'll all move on eventually."

Whiners whine. Gloaters gloat. The twain shall never met.

I shall ignore this topic hereafter.
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:41:21 AM

btc1 are you ok?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:24:52 AM

"McConnell won
Grimes lost

Time to move on."

You gotta give them time to gloat, the left certainly did when Obama won and while this isn't as big of a victory, it was substantial none-the-less - especially given the smack talk leading up to Election Day ;).

They'll all move on eventually.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:20:22 AM



Just a reminder a looser in an election doesn't translate to all facets of their life and the winners are not always the best for the job.

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LibertyGuardian
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:11:34 AM

"Who is Allison Lundergan Grimes?"

.....

A loser?
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Service66
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:10:14 AM


>>Oh Service, come on. You know Mitch is the Messiah of the Republican party now....Messiah Mitch.

Yeah, school children all across the country are being trained/forced to sing praise to McConnell. Artists are preparing their canvases to depict McConnell as equal to Jesus Christs.**

Be sure to post links.

**Seriously, that was some real North Korea-looking ish.

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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 8:30:17 AM

Here's a song for you btc1... Carry on...




"One morning I woke up and I knew that you were gone.
A new day, a new way, I knew I should see it along.
Go your way, I'll go mine and carry on.

The sky is clearing and the night has gone out.
The sun, he come, the world is all full of light.
Rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but to carry on.

The fortunes of fables are able to sing the song.
Now witness the quickness with which we get along.
To sing the blues you've got to live the tunes and carry on."




[Edited by: reb4 at 11/6/2014 8:30:32 AM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 8:19:31 AM

McConnell won
Grimes lost

Time to move on.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:57:31 AM

btc1: "The next time Alison Lundergan Grimes runs, she needs to tell Daddy to go sit down and shut up. I am sure the avoidance of answering that question was gestated by him and his personal hatred of Obama. He was large and in charge in this campaign, not letting any outside national influence in the campaign."

Your surety of such - that her failed campaign was because she was the puppet of her father Jerry Lundergan pulling her strings, makes a mockery of your claim in the OP that she was "a formidable opponent." (And, to borrow from one of your incendiary terms you love to throw around, some might even say it is "sexist".)

But it fits much closer with your original summation of her in Spring 2013 - when you were so gaga over Tennessee resident Ashley Judd - when you described how corrupt her father Jerry Lundergan is (from first-hand knowledge) - when you said you'd never vote for a Lundergan - because "the apple does not fall far from the tree."

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/6/2014 8:00:03 AM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:50:21 AM

AFS: "and the liberals will come out and talk about how the right hates Obama...so I wonder why btc hates McConnell."

He's not Democrat. btc1 doesn't need any other reason.

A Republican beat his man (by his own admission, it was Jerry Lundergan running against him this time). A Republican beat his candidate two Senate elections in a row. The drubbing Rand Paul gave CONway in 2010, and the drubbing Senator McConnell gave Jerry & Alison Lundergan Grimes, his hatred would still exist. Dr. Paul and Senator McConnell aren't Democrats. Those losses are vinegar in the deep wound of his hate.

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/6/2014 7:51:11 AM EST]
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:38:28 AM

mini, and the liberals will come out and talk about how the right hates Obama...so I wonder why btc hates McConnell. I will use a page from their playbook. btc hates McConnell because he is a Christian. That has got to be it.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:36:59 AM

"--And why would you guess the righties are rubbing your nose in it? You know what they say about paybacks, right? Next time your side ought to be a little bit more humble about the victories, and a little more conciliatory. I think the Reps were willing to work with the Dems, but I think the Dems, in their arrogance, tried to shut out the Reps, and it ultimately "cheesed off" the American people."

Amen. I remember just on these boards all the threads and comments about the GOP being finished. Then you had Obama utter those words "we won" and "elections have consequences" quotes that set the tone for the last few years.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:34:25 AM

"Messiah Mitch."

"More reason to hate him."

Your hatred is duly noted. You'll do or say anything to avoid the fact that it was the Senate Majority leader of your party who obstructed 350+ bills from being put to vote in the Senate, thusly protecting your Messiah from becoming known as President Veto.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:22:02 AM

Panama... Point proven....
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:12:25 AM

Even President Obama would like to have a Kentucky Bourbon with him. I doubt Mitch will know which one to pick. He knows very little about Kentucky. He approved using DUKE players in an ad about his support of Kentucky basketball! More reason to hate him.

I am sure all the Christian Lightner fans won't get that. UK fans hate that team.

[Edited by: btc1 at 11/6/2014 7:13:38 AM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 6:27:02 AM

Oh Panama, now don't go using facts like that... Your just bein mean..... And lib posters here will see right through that., or more accurately ignore the truth.....
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 2:00:02 AM


Service66, "That didn't apply to Harry Reid. How many hundreds of bills did he refuse to put up for a vote?"

352 at last count.

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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2014 8:10:31 PM

btc: "Oh Service, come on. You know Mitch is the Messiah of the Republican party now....Messiah Mitch. "


Hmmm... Well, he is on his way to being Majority Leader. Now where is Grimes headed? Probably back to hypocritedom, as in the family business where they pay $2.13 an hour to the servers. On the other hand, maybe she will get a job with an environmental wacko group trying to destroy the coal industry in Kentucky, as she doesn't have to hide who she is anymore and can now let it all hang out.


mudtoe


[Edited by: mudtoe at 11/5/2014 8:13:19 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2014 8:03:30 PM

Oh Service, come on. You know Mitch is the Messiah of the Republican party now....Messiah Mitch.
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Service66
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2014 7:41:08 PM


Make no mistake, I will not defend McConnell...or Boehner... simply to be defending them. Neither have shown any real leadership qualities. And Obama today basically set the stage for a constitutional showdown.

Probably will be an interesting couple of years we're in for.
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Service66
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2014 7:35:43 PM


>>>"They have to do their job, FOR THE COUNTRY."

hmmm That didn't apply to Harry Reid. How many hundreds of bills did he refuse to put up for a vote? And when was the last time we had an actual federal budget pass?

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IammeCA
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2014 12:55:14 PM

It will be interesting to see what he does about the ACA. He lied to the people and told them he would repeal Obamacare but leave Kynect intact.

He also has a new opponent to deal with. Ted Cruz.
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