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btc1

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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2013 3:17:12 PM

Allison Lundergan Grimes is running.

Who is Allison Lundergan Grimes?

A formidable opponent. With big connections to the National Democratic Party and the Clintons.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 2:22:08 AM


btc1, "When he was approached by the officers of course he resisted"

And when he resisted arrest of course the officers had to take him down.

And dying from congestive heart failure is not the same as being choked to death - which he was not.

It was his own behavior that led directly to his death - his criminal behavior leading up to the confrontation and his decision to resist arrest even when surrounded by police.

If he knew he could not take exertion due to his medical condition, why did he not simply comply with police orders?


[Edited by: Panama19 at 12/10/2014 2:26:07 AM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2014 9:00:18 AM

Panama, he had CHF. I have said before, he did. When he was approached by the officers of course he resisted. I resisted any "help" from my wife or my niece until it became clear I could not do it on my own. I was not able to breath anyway but straight up. I did not know I had CHF. Garner did. His wife knew. Anyone who had contact with him over 30 times, most likely knew. The law enforcement officers knew they had killed him, in my view. That is the reason there was no effort to resuscitate. It appears to me, that, the woman EMT was trying to mitigate the death at the scene.

[Edited by: btc1 at 12/8/2014 9:01:16 AM EST]
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Panama19
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btc1, "Some quickly moved to blame Garner's death by choking at the hands of New York City police officer Daniel Pantaleo on just about anything other than the officer's chokehold."

Actually, he didn't die by choking;Garner later died of a heart attack.

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 9:16:24 PM

Sheeesh btc you sure are touchy these days.

Yes what appeared to be a chokehold seemed to start out being a 'seatbelt type hold. The actual chokehold part of the video I saw should not hae been enough to kill anyone.

Yes it is dumb as a post to put those kind of taxes on cigarettes IMHO. Maybe the liberal dogooders should think about the consequences of passing illogical laws to force other persons into uberlib ideas of healthful living.

It is also not smart to send four cops to deal with one guy selling individual cigs on the street. Unless of course the person who called in and complained about the guy mentioned who it was and the cops knew from arresting him multiple times in the past he was going to resist arrest.

However btc you still dont seem to ever mention the fact that the decision to resist arrest was made by the guy who died because of his bad decisions. The decision to live a life of petty crime and constantly be in need of law enforcement attention was his and no one else.

It still is a truism that the place to argue with a cop is in the courtroom and not in the street.

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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 9:05:23 PM

Service66 said: "Why are we still discussing McConnell's thoroughly thumped opponent?"

The whole sane world should rejoice when a liberal loses an election.

Don't be a spoil sport!
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Service66
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 3:12:44 PM


Why are we still discussing McConnell's thoroughly thumped opponent?

btw, Landrieu was a champion of pork barrel spending. Perhaps people have grown to disgree w/ pork?

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modeshoo825
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 1:30:50 PM

"Apparently, Mary Landrieu was also quite a formidable opponent."

Apparently... considering 58,000 fewer people voted for Landrieu in the run-off than on 11/4, despite her efforts to get out the vote, while 110,000 more people voted for Cassidy than on 11/4.

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EZExit
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2014 11:33:36 AM

Apparently, Mary Landrieu was also quite a formidable opponent.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2014 1:03:46 AM

<<<“Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”>>>

--Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 3:36:19 PM



flyboyUT, btc has difficulty separating what he reasonably believes will happen with what he fervently wishes will happen. This is a common failure of most liberals.

As my Pappy used to say - "If wishes were horses beggars would ride".

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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 11:08:01 AM

We have to continue to post here - just to kepp btc honest about things. He said unkind things about Rand Paul and said his opponent was going to win just as he did here. Then later he tries to downplay what he did and said.

I vote we keep this open and tease the heck outa btc for his ooooooopsieeeeee prognostications.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 10:22:26 AM

SE3.5: <<<"McConnell--56%
Grimes--41%">>>

--It would seem Grimes wasn't very formidable after all...
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2014 9:12:15 AM

My previous post was back on 11/6. I promise not to post here again.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2014 8:57:26 AM

"How about we let this topic die?"




And posting to the topic is going to do that??

SMH

[Edited by: reb4 at 12/3/2014 8:57:34 AM EST]
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2014 8:52:54 AM

McConnell--56%
Grimes--41%

How about we let this topic die?
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2014 1:03:49 AM


btc1, "I could never have voted for a Republican supported by the Koch Brothers. Never will."

You could have stayed home like you say the African-Americans did if you objected to Grimes so much.

Your fervent cheerleading right up to the election itself makes me doubt your sincerity about not supporting Allison in your heart.

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EZExit
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 10:11:41 PM

Weasel: <<<"Might want to ask that same question of EZ since his comment was the condescending one aimed at btc after this thread had sat blissfully idle for 9 days...">>>

--My comment wasn't condescending, it was an observation from liberal elitist Jonathan Gruber, thus the quotation marks. I am just wondering aloud of how an idiot beat out a liar in Kentucky, and wondering if Grimes might not have been another liberal elitist counting on "stupid voters".

I suppose you're right, it doesn't matter, what matters is that we will receive a senator from Kentucky, the lesser of the two evils.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 7:11:32 PM

My neighbor in the business center asked me what I thought as to why Alison lost. I let him speak first. He said it had to be her bigoted, racist father. I smiled and said that is why I wanted you to go first. I have said, in so many words that same thing here and elsewhere. He related to me events that occurred when J. Lundergan had faced black opposition. I told him I was well aware of what happened during those two elections. It was a big reason, along with my personal experience working for his business and in his campaigns, that I had begun working to make sure he never won another election. Which he has not.

My neighbor is an African-American who worked on campaigns with my Dad. He told me, Alison could not get out the black voting majority simply because of her Dad. That is why they stayed home. That and the non-answer. He told me she may have been an Obama delegate, but, she would not answer because she did not vote for Obama. That is what the black voting majority thought. I can understand them thinking that.

Now, you know more of why I had problems supporting her at first. Still any Democrat has to be better than Mitch and his evil bunch of crazy 1% beholden only to the Kochs really. I had to support her. I could never have voted for a Republican supported by the Koch Brothers. Never will.

[Edited by: btc1 at 11/18/2014 7:14:30 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 4:02:57 PM

"btc1 - what happened to that political truce everyone was talking about in the other thread? Hmmm??"

Might want to ask that same question of EZ since his comment was the condescending one aimed at btc after this thread had sat blissfully idle for 9 days...
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 3:54:57 PM

btc1 - what happened to that political truce everyone was talking about in the other thread? Hmmm??
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 3:52:39 PM

btc: "EZExit, there were two stupid groups of voters here. The ones who were the sheep who voted for McConnell against Obama and then the ones who did not vote."


So the only "smart" voters where the people who voted for someone whose family you originally said was corrupt and that you would never vote for? Hahahahahahaha!!!



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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 1:09:19 PM

EZExit, there were two stupid groups of voters here. The ones who were the sheep who voted for McConnell against Obama and then the ones who did not vote.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 11:57:28 AM

I guess the confusion comes from the emphatic defeat that Democrats earned through their policies of the last six years. It must be that 2/3rds who couldn't be bothered to show up that the Democrats are counting as "theirs".
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 11:50:05 AM

"The Democrats have survived worse and we will this time as well. After all, we almost survived Reagan and his destruction of the economy as well as George W. Bush's disastrous economy! It will be hard for the American people, but, the Democrats will come roaring back to save it again. As we always do! "

How long will it take for the Repubs to destroy this recovery and put us all into antherone of their recessions?
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 11:21:48 AM

I did and she has turned out to be to liberal!!
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 10:32:57 AM

I think that Alison Grimes was banking on a majority of "stupid" voters in Kentucky, but that thought hadn't materialized for her. I still think that she would make a fine campaign manager for Hillary, perhaps Btc could put in a good word for her...
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2014 11:24:33 PM

Weaselspit said: "You gotta give them time to gloat, the left certainly did when Obama won and while this isn't as big of a victory, it was substantial none-the-less - especially given the smack talk leading up to Election Day ;)."

--Well, I'm pleased to see someone on the left acknowledge that fact. Yes, when Obama was elected the first time, some here wanted to shove it up our collective anuses. And IMHO, the trash talk was worse from the left than it was from the right, but that's my take. And yes, despite some who want to minimize it, the victory of the Reps, now taking the Senate and a WIDE margin in the House is substantial, and historic. It represents a resounding "meeehhh" from the American people to Obama's policies and those who are supporting them.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2014 8:24:01 PM

Gee I remember btc and his screeching against Rand Paul and how whoever the liberal candidate was that they would wipe up the floors with SENATOR Paul. When Rand won and took that Senate seat btc got real quiet on his chosen candidate. Now that he was again screeching for the looser he is trying to keep up the screeching for the liberals.

Btc - give it up - the voters are on to you. The looser in this discussion was supposed to buy the beer and pizza. Now I have been gone for a few days but I havent heard anyone say you fessed up and admitted yo were once more wrong and actually bought the winners what the loser was supposed to buy.

When are you gonna learn to stop badmouthing the folks who are not extreme libs like yourself?
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theTower
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:56:11 AM

"LOL!! So the right thinks i should just roll up in a ball in the corner and let them have the forum. Not a chance. That is what is getting to them."

It's more likely there's just no truth to anything you say anymore. The last few weeks you've stepped in it so deeply, it's doubtful you'll ever get out. Might as well just embrace what you really are, and always have been, and continue to let it fly.
At least that would be a step towards honesty.

[Edited by: theTower at 11/7/2014 7:58:06 AM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:53:23 AM

btc1: "So the right thinks i should just roll up in a ball in the corner and let them have the forum. Not a chance."

I don't think I or Panama19 ever intimated anything close to that. To the contrary, I encourage you and your pack of yellow dogs to tell all the lies and propaganda you want. It worked wonders this election.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:35:10 AM

btc1: "Oh, yeah! Busy for himself! That is all."

So, 276 bills he sponsored and co-sponsored in the past three-and-a-half years were all for himself?

"Dr. certified by himself, when the REAL certification group turned him down!"

Dr. Paul wasn't 'turned down'. He objected to the new certification rules for his specialty, for certifications after 1992, and their inherent unfairness. Even left-leaning doctors who have little in common with him politically, agree with him on that subject. This one calls it the "Certification Racket".

btc1: "I almost lost my dentures on that spittake!"

You should have taken better care of your teeth when you were younger. And you need to stop relying on disinformation from politicususa.

btc1: "He needs to take that 12 step program with his son! Only this would be for the fat liars of America!"

After just telling another whopper, is that a cry for help?

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/7/2014 7:39:03 AM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 7:30:51 AM

LOL!! So the right thinks i should just roll up in a ball in the corner and let them have the forum. Not a chance. That is what is getting to them.

The Democrats have survived worse and we will this time as well. After all, we almost survived Reagan and his destruction of the economy as well as George W. Bush's disastrous economy! It will be hard for the American people, but, the Democrats will come roaring back to save it again. As we always do!
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 1:05:24 AM


ministorage, "Instead of gracefully accepting the winner of this election, you're in full campaign mode, going for 2016, as your epithets, ad hominems and demagoguery continue unabated. As expected."

Well, he IS a liberal after all. That mode of thought is what makes them liberals in the first place.

Everything is political on the left, and their only aim is to win at any cost.

Same old, same old.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 7:15:06 PM

mini, "Dr. Paul is doing nothing else but running for President, Dr. Paul has been one of the hardest working, busiest Junior Senators in the history of the Senate. " I almost lost my dentures on that spittake!

Dr. certified by himself, when the REAL certification group turned him down! Oh, yeah! Busy for himself! That is all. He needs to take that 12 step program with his son! Only this would be for the fat liars of America!
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 6:18:20 PM

btc1: "Hal who?"

I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for your next bitter loser National Enquirer kind of post about... Oh wait...

btc1: "He (Paul) has done nothing specifically for Kentucky as Senator, but, run for President."

What? Do you mean PORK? Contrary of the LIE that you're trying to paint - that Dr. Paul is doing nothing else but running for President, Dr. Paul has been one of the hardest working, busiest Junior Senators in the history of the Senate.

Sponsor of 140 Amendments

Co-sponsor of 136 Amendments

You prove what I said below. Instead of gracefully accepting the winner of this election, you're in full campaign mode, going for 2016, as your epithets, ad hominems and demagoguery continue unabated. As expected.


[Edited by: ministorage at 11/6/2014 6:25:06 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 4:12:02 PM

Hal who? No chance in heck will he even make it past the primary if Comer has anything to do with it. therder, that was the Bluegrass Poll. So now you put your money on that?!!

Grimes will run for Senate for Paul's seat while he is running for President. He will be too busy to fight her. He will not be able to run against Obama nor on his own record. He has done nothing specifically for Kentucky as Senator, but, run for President.



[Edited by: btc1 at 11/6/2014 4:21:05 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:29:18 PM

Hal Heiner has a job ahead of him. more than 3/4 of respondents don't know who he is.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:26:25 PM

therder, you're welcome. A long time ago, Panama19 turned me on to tinyurl.com. I use it whenever I get "text deleted" in a link.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:25:04 PM


therder, I would be just as happy voting against Conway as Grimes.
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therder
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:21:26 PM

Thanks ministorage. I could not get that link to work so I posted another source.
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:19:36 PM

Therder, here you go
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therder
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:14:39 PM

Looks like Allison Lundergan Grimes is damaged goods now.Half of Kentucky voters say no to idea of Grimes entering 2015 race for governor

[Edited by: therder at 11/6/2014 12:20:05 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:10:27 PM

SE3.5: "Whiners whine. Gloaters gloat. The twain shall never met."

I have responded to btc1's ridiculous commentary and continued demonization of the winner. Perhaps you consider that gloating. So be it.

"I shall ignore this topic hereafter."

Watch that screen door on the way out.

[Edited by: ministorage at 11/6/2014 12:11:21 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 12:06:23 PM

daylily: "btc1 are you ok?"

I think he's okay. The wailing and gnashing of teeth is expected. This morning it was about THIS blurry, ambiguous photo of a Duke basketball player, which McConnell's campaign team bought from a vendor for use in an ad last March, and was supposed to be representing UK basketball (which Jerry Grimes seized on immediately).

Yesterday, it was about McConnell being apparently responsible for an earthquake near Hazard, Kentucky ... btc1: "Well, it has started. This is just the beginning of the end days for Kentucky. Thanks Mitch."

With his demonizing of Rand Paul and his 2010 losses as a guide, I'm fairly confident btc1 won't be moving on eventually. This loss stings. He'll be stewing on this one right into 2016. He's in full campaign mode.

Looking forward to tomorrow morning's tabloid entertainment.
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SE3.5
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:48:05 AM

"They'll all move on eventually."

Whiners whine. Gloaters gloat. The twain shall never met.

I shall ignore this topic hereafter.
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:41:21 AM

btc1 are you ok?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:24:52 AM

"McConnell won
Grimes lost

Time to move on."

You gotta give them time to gloat, the left certainly did when Obama won and while this isn't as big of a victory, it was substantial none-the-less - especially given the smack talk leading up to Election Day ;).

They'll all move on eventually.
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:20:22 AM



Just a reminder a looser in an election doesn't translate to all facets of their life and the winners are not always the best for the job.

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LibertyGuardian
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:11:34 AM

"Who is Allison Lundergan Grimes?"

.....

A loser?
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Service66
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 11:10:14 AM


>>Oh Service, come on. You know Mitch is the Messiah of the Republican party now....Messiah Mitch.

Yeah, school children all across the country are being trained/forced to sing praise to McConnell. Artists are preparing their canvases to depict McConnell as equal to Jesus Christs.**

Be sure to post links.

**Seriously, that was some real North Korea-looking ish.

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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2014 8:30:17 AM

Here's a song for you btc1... Carry on...




"One morning I woke up and I knew that you were gone.
A new day, a new way, I knew I should see it along.
Go your way, I'll go mine and carry on.

The sky is clearing and the night has gone out.
The sun, he come, the world is all full of light.
Rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but to carry on.

The fortunes of fables are able to sing the song.
Now witness the quickness with which we get along.
To sing the blues you've got to live the tunes and carry on."




[Edited by: reb4 at 11/6/2014 8:30:32 AM EST]
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