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btc1

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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2013 3:17:12 PM

Allison Lundergan Grimes is running.

Who is Allison Lundergan Grimes?

A formidable opponent. With big connections to the National Democratic Party and the Clintons.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 11:19:45 PM

There will always be a market for coal as long as steel is being made and our power generators are fired on coal. As far as a residential heating source, not so much as long as nat gas stays cheap.

Coal may no longer be king but it will always be used.
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therder
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 8:15:46 PM

The focus on coal in this senate election has been a red herring. Natural gas is cheap and plentiful. Anthracite coal is still in demand but the coal in Kentucky is lower grade bituminous coal. Sadly, those coal jobs are not coming back regardless of who is elected.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 6:51:28 PM

Panama, you do realize therder is from Lexington, right? That is a lot closer to the Eastern KY coalfields than you. You live in a very liberal city too, do you not? Still, coal is of a bygone era for the most part. Kentucky's coal has always been a low grade coal. It would take a lot even when Bush was in with a Republican Congress for our coal industry to return to much of an impact on the economy.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 5:30:27 PM


"...useless posturing about coal"???

That's not the way we see it here.

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therder
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 4:46:28 PM

This senate election here in Kentucky has been about Obama and control of the senate. Except for all the useless posturing about coal I've heard very little about moving Kentucky forward. Makes me wish for repeal of the 17th amendment. Republicans may get back the senate by uniting against Obama now but they are in serious jeopardy of convincing voters they are so fractured they simply cannot govern. They've got 2 years to change that before the voters turn on them.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 4:15:36 PM

Hey ---- I found the official theme song for them "Yellow Dog Democrats"

btc - remember all your posts regarding how Rand Paul would never make it?
You might want to check this out btc - in a few more years he will be Senate Majority Leader. He will take over from Mitch!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 3:59:48 PM

btc: "I am so sorry, mudtoe, to hear of your ailment of thought."


My thought is that your temporary hero of convenience, Ms. Grimes, is going to experience political death shortly, largely due to self inflicted wounds. I think they call that: READY! FIRE! AIM!

The democrat power brokers who control the money have already put her in the pine box and started shoveling dirt on top of it.


mudtoe
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theTower
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 3:46:47 PM

"The only never I will say again for you folks, is I will NEVER VOTE FOR A CONSERVATIVE."

I doubt anyone who has read your posts would find that at all surprising.

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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 3:41:38 PM

Panama, "My only hope was that he was old and may have passed on the office to Sarah Palin before his term was up." Now that IS desperate thinking!

I am so sorry, mudtoe, to hear of your ailment of thought.

Weaslespit, have you driven a newer Chrylser 300C eco style?

The ECO mode on the 300s yields 31 mpg! Eco Style and ECO Mode are two different things, though.

The only never I will say again for you folks, is I will NEVER VOTE FOR A CONSERVATIVE. Just to make you fellas happy. I do think if you go back to the full posts of what you saved you will see I was struggling with the possibility that I would have to wind up voting for Jerry Lundergan's daughter. I was having qualms. I got past it when, she was the only Democratic nominee against the Bullheaded leader of the opposition to everything Democratic. Mitch needs to be retired. Very retired.

Moderate Republicans, Christie comes to mind, are great! I have voted for them in the past. But, not one has made it to a nominee for President for whom I could have voted.

[Edited by: btc1 at 10/21/2014 3:42:46 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 3:15:57 PM

"Never use Never... :-)"

True - I said I would never own a Chrysler... Just test drove a '14 Durango today. Nice.

"My only hope was that he was old and may have passed on the office to Sarah Palin before his term was up."

Strange, your hope was my fear - and the final tipping point to my voting for Obama.

Here's to hoping Grimes wins - not because Democrats are better than Republican's but because it is time to change the old guard in Washington. Both sides need some turnover - and hopefully a shift towards the middle, rather than the continual shift to the extreme Left and Right.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 2:38:48 PM

Panama: "My only hope was that he was old and may have passed on the office to Sarah Palin before his term was up."


Just think about how much better off the country would be today if that scenario had played out as opposed to what we have today, a President whose purpose is to harm the country, and one who has elevated Jimmy Carter out of the basement of modern Presidents.


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/21/2014 2:39:17 PM EST]
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 2:23:38 PM


btc1, I understand completely.

I was in the same boat when McCain got the nomination.

My only hope was that he was old and may have passed on the office to Sarah Palin before his term was up.

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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 1:18:31 PM

Panama, "btc is obviously a yellow dog Democrat." To you and others, I have always bragged that I am. And given these choices there would be NO DOUBT who I would support. Mitch has to go. Load on, guys. You all are solidly conservative. You have to have some complete opposition here. You are just as partisan as I. I am never afraid of losing a hard fought race. But, it would be good to see yours if my gal does win.

Nov. 4 will tell the tale.


[Edited by: btc1 at 10/21/2014 1:21:53 PM EST]
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theTower
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 1:10:04 PM

"So, it's been fun watching btc1 campaign for a woman he emphatically vowed he would never vote for. "

I'm sure it was all sarcasm
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:18:23 PM

"Never"....
Never use Never... :-)

don't feel to bad btc1.... I once said if price went above a $1 I would Never buy it....
But I am a little more careful since then.... and it did take a few years for that to occur actually...
And I also remember that when ever "never" even crosses my mind....

:-)




[Edited by: reb4 at 10/21/2014 12:19:04 PM EST]
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 9:49:48 PM


btc is obviously a yellow dog Democrat.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 9:11:33 PM

mini: "So, it's been fun watching btc1 campaign for a woman he emphatically vowed he would never vote for. (mudtoe, I like real butter on my popcorn.)"


So Benedict btc turned his coat; very interesting indeed. I agree, real butter on popcorn, not that fake stuff.


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ministorage
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 8:05:46 PM

In the "Ashley Judd continues to taunt McConnell" thread, which btc1 began last year, when Judd's prospects were fizzling (Judd was a Tennesee resident at the time, among other fatal flaws) newby Secretary of State Lundergan-Grimes' name was being floated in Democrat circles.

At that time, btc1 vowed to never vote for a Lundergan. He explained that "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree". When pressed, he said he had worked in KY Democrat politics, and that Lundergan-Grimes' father, Jerry Lundergan - former KY Democrat Party Chairman and close buddy of Hillar-Billy - is a crook. btc1 was emphatic about how dirty Jerry Lundergan was - he said he would *never* vote for a Lundergan. That was what btc1 had to say about Alison Lundergan-Grimes in the Spring of 2013.

Shortly after that, btc1 announced in that thread he was considering a run as Independent candidate, "Mike Crowe for U.S. Senate" - he even went so far as ask if I could head up Jefferson County for him.

So, it's been fun watching btc1 campaign for a woman he emphatically vowed he would never vote for. (mudtoe, I like real butter on my popcorn.)

[Edited by: ministorage at 10/20/2014 8:14:55 PM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 7:12:00 PM

Looks like that poll has been consistently about 5 points more favorable to Grimes than all the others, and RCP even took note of that fact when one of their previous polls was published. Therefore, the fact that McConnell is ahead by one in that poll really means that he's actually ahead by about 6, which is close to the average of the other polls.

Time to play taps for Allison just like the people who control the democrat party's money already have.




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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 6:41:05 PM

The Survey USA-Bluegrass Poll just released,

Mitch McConnell – 44%

Alison Lundergan Grimes – 43%

David Patterson – 5%

Undecided – 8%

It is virtually a tie. Most thought there would be big gains by McConnell. Not so.

Bluegrass Poll conducted by Survey USA

[Edited by: btc1 at 10/20/2014 6:42:08 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 8:27:40 AM

naw! Great to hear from you!

Real Clear Politics is still polling too close to call in this race...
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:53:20 AM

naw: "Your just showing your true colors Republican'ts. Yellow!!! "


ROFL!! Sticks and stones..... It's not my fault that the democrat Senatorial candidate in KY is a complete moron. I'm sure McConnell is happy to cash in on her stupidity as he stands poised to dethrone Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. I'll bet it will be all the sweeter for him in that his opponent thought that her own party's sitting President was so toxic and coyote ugly that she chewed off her own political arm just to escape rather than have to be seen with him the morning after.

When your enemies are busy destroying themselves the best thing you can do is pull up a chair, a cooler of beer, and sit and enjoy the show (I'll have to go get some popcorn too).



mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/20/2014 12:54:55 AM EST]
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:50:52 AM


btc1, "The latest Rasmussen Reports statewide telephone survey of Likely Kentucky Voters finds McConnell with 52% support to Democratic challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes’ 44%.

Seventy-six percent (76%) of Kentucky voters say they have already made up their minds how they are going to vote, and McConnell leads 55% to 45% among these voters. Among the 24% who still could change their minds, the candidates are tied at 41% apiece, with 17% opting for a third-party candidate or undecided.

Among the 84% of Kentucky voters who say they will definitely vote in this contest, McConnell leads 53% to 44%.

This survey was taken following the candidates’ only debate earlier in the week.

[McConnell] led 46% to 41% in September and was ahead 48% to 41% in late May."

The momentum is going against Grimes, with only three weeks left before the election.

Even the RCP Average is going the wrong way for Grimes: 9/8 - 10/16 McConnell +4.0

No wonder the DSCC pulled out. Grimes is not a good investment for the available campaign cash.


[Edited by: Panama19 at 10/20/2014 12:56:50 AM EST]
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naw
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:26:23 AM

How ignorant can Republican'ts be.

Allison knows just how short a fuse and tempers you have so now the fun begins!

Your just showing your true colors Republican'ts. Yellow!!!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:15:19 AM

Looks like Kentucky voters are deciding that either Grimes really is a two faced liar and will decimate their coal industry if elected just like her campaign workers said on hidden video, or they really do care about who she voted for in 2008 and 2012. Either way, in the latest Rasumessen poll, which is the first one conducted since both of these things made headlines, McConnell has now opened up an 8 point lead.

Guess we now know why the democrat party pulled her funding. They knew that she pointed a cannon at her own deck and pulled the lanyard. Bye bye Alision...

McConnell streaks ahead to an 8 point lead


mudtoe


P.S. Also, her refusal and/or embarrassment at admitting voting for a black man in 2008 and 2012 will likely hurt the African-American voter turnout in KY, without which she can't win. Looks like she fired several cannons at her own deck. Oops...




[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/20/2014 12:18:44 AM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 11:47:03 AM

reb4, you are right. Mitch has done it for 30 years! And is still doing it. When asked abut his 70 M fortune he only wants to talk about the 11M dollar inheritance his wife received.

what about the other 59M?

And therder, that is correct, also. She has more than enough to finish the Mitch whippin'! She is still strong.

[Edited by: btc1 at 10/16/2014 11:48:02 AM EST]
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therder
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 9:41:37 AM

I would not count Grimes out yet. Her campaign has enough money to buy all the media time she needs until the election and the democratic party factions here in Ky are probably more united than they have been in 30 years. The Democrats are on defense in so many senate races. I'm not surprised they stopped running ads here in favor of helping their incumbents in other states.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 9:11:56 AM

btc: "Hint: I bet she did not vote for Mitt. It is a stupid question, since she was an Obama delegat4e. "





MudToe "Hint #2: That's not as stupid as refusing to admit who you voted for when you were a delegate for one of the candidates. Bingo! Bango! Bongo!"

SMH

Sad how people running for office won't tell the truth when asked the simplest of questions...


[Edited by: reb4 at 10/16/2014 9:12:16 AM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 8:54:04 AM

Panama all that that means is that it is too close to call.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 12:52:56 AM


RCP Average 9/8 - 10/7 - McConnell +3.0
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 11:06:41 PM

Strange, I was always taught that it is nobody else's business who I voted for and 'nobody' is obligated to answer said question directed at them...

Just more proof that this is all about the standard right-wing Obama deflection tactic and nothing to do with the actual issues.

Sad what politics has become.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 10:04:26 PM

btc: "Hint: I bet she did not vote for Mitt. It is a stupid question, since she was an Obama delegat4e. "


Hint #2: That's not as stupid as refusing to admit who you voted for when you were a delegate for one of the candidates. Bingo! Bango! Bongo!


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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 7:51:32 PM

Poor Alison....

...she stepped in a big pile of Obama and while she thought she could scrape it all off, she still reeked of his signature stench.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 7:19:24 PM

tower: "Makes her look like a liar now, or a liar then. Either way, its dishonest."


Speaking of her dishonesty, I heard a campaign ad on local radio yesterday (Cincinnati is right across the river from KY so we get a double dose of campaign ads for both Ohio and Kentucky :( ) where they played the audio from the O'Keefe recording of her campaign team discussing how she was going to f-bomb the coal industry once she got elected. I think that one is really hitting home.


mudtoe



[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/15/2014 7:20:46 PM EST]
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theTower
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 5:09:45 PM

"Everyone knows she was an Obama delegate and has known since 2012. Nothing new."

Except now she is running for office on a message that tries to distance herself from Obama.
Kind of looks silly when her support was so strong in 2012.
Makes her look like a liar now, or a liar then. Either way, its dishonest.
The smart move would have been to say "Yes" and throw out why she did and what she supports of the presidents and what she doesn't and why. Obama did say his policies are on the ballot for the 2014 midterms.
To just flat out avoid it just plays to McConnell. Something she should be smart enough to avoid.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 4:37:29 PM

Oh come on, I 75. Everyone knows she was an Obama delegate. Still it is no ones business who you vote for in the voting booth. Hint: I bet she did not vote for Mitt. It is a stupid question, since she was an Obama delegat4e. It is just a purposeful attempt for her to play into Mitch's commentary in this election. Stupid question. Everyone knows she was an Obama delegate and has known since 2012. Nothing new. Just stupid conservative question.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 3:47:07 PM

"Proof that Grimes did indeed vote for 0bama in 2012."

Yeah, figures, she was born in Kenya too... Birds of a feather and all.
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 3:05:32 PM

Proof that Grimes did indeed vote for 0bama in 2012.

Spend away, b, spend away. She won't need the money after Nov.4 anyway.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 2:07:53 PM

Gee...I75...maybe she just does not need it.

"Grimes has more cash ($4.4 million) than any other Democrat in a competitive Senate race. Her money has impressively come from 164,264 donors who gave $50 or less. The median contribution is $25, and she has gotten contributions from all 120 counties in Kentucky."

Grimes has money to spend...

The DSCC will use their money for other Senate candidates. For now. Please do not count her out or feel sorry for her, yet.

[Edited by: btc1 at 10/15/2014 2:11:20 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 8:51:57 AM

>>>"And neither are the ads on Kentucky television in support of her."<<<

I'm sure the Grimes campaign will continue to advertise, but the
DSCC has pulled the plug on spending any more money in Kentucky.
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 8:39:45 AM

I see that at least Obama is liked in Connecticut...

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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 7:51:14 AM

EZExit my support for an opponent to Mitch McConnell is not ending. And neither are the ads on Kentucky television in support of her. Try to keep up that tirade against those that want to change the power of the conservative notions of doing everything for themselves. No commitment of the Republican Party for America.
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 5:06:03 AM

On Tuesday, several left-wing political groups blasted Alison Lundergran Grimes for running television ads attacking her opponent, incumbent Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY), for his support of the 1986 immigration reform bill signed by Ronald Reagan that gave amnesty to an estimated 3 million illegal aliens at the time.

Eating one of your own must leave an awfully bitter taste in your mouth.

[Edited by: theTower at 10/15/2014 5:07:11 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 1:31:58 AM

Gee, it's pretty sad when a senate hopeful's entire marketing campaign is relegated to one member's avatar picture on some obscure politics forum. ;)

[Edited by: EZExit at 10/15/2014 1:32:41 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 12:14:29 AM


I think the DSCC sees the handwriting on the wall.
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2014 9:05:01 PM

Earnest Admits: “I Voted for the President”



"White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest today acknowledged that he voted for his boss, President Barack Obama, suggesting that he did so not only in 2012 but in 2008 as well.

“I’m a longtime supporter,” Earnest admitted during today’s White House briefing.

Earnest seemed to be having some fun at expense of Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Grimes, the Democratic candidate for Senate who refuses to say whether or not she voted for Obama.

Earnest, who seemed to be saying, “Look how easy it is, Alison” with his remark, perhaps betrayed a bit of White House frustration with Grimes, who is clearly the worst offender among Democratic candidates who refuse to stand with the president who has led them for nearly six years.

Josh’s admission drew chuckles from the White House press corps."


Btc1, Sure looks like it is... but who knows...

Right now, I think she has to stick to her position... Frankly now she opens up more criticism of taking money from Obama funding... She might get some mileage... How many Obama fans are there in Kentucky anyway... :-)


[Edited by: reb4 at 10/14/2014 9:06:44 PM EST]
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btc1
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2014 7:06:47 PM

If this is true, it is due to her arrogant father thinking he knows best! He has always bit his nose off to spite his face. Typical.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2014 4:45:37 PM

"Apparently the DSCC doesn't think she'll win:"




Maybe they didn't like that though she was a delegate for Obama, that she wouldn't even acknowledge that she voted for him...





Especially Since Mr. Obama is spending a lot of time and effort in helping the candidates behind the scenes financially..

"(either that or they are starting to wonder themselves who she voted for in 2008 and 2012)."
mudtoe,

ROTFL (and that does take a lot of effort for me to do.... )



[Edited by: reb4 at 10/14/2014 4:47:40 PM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2014 4:38:42 PM

Looks like the democrats who control the money put a fork in her and decided that she's done (either that or they are starting to wonder themselves who she voted for in 2008 and 2012).


mudtoe

[Edited by: mudtoe at 10/14/2014 4:40:46 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2014 3:47:12 PM

Apparently the DSCC doesn't think she'll win:

"The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has "gone dark" and pulled money and ads from Kentucky's relatively close senate race between incumbent Republican Mitch McConnell and Democrat challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes three weeks before Election Day.

From Roll Call:
After a significant investment in support of Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, the DSCC had not reserved time for the final three weeks of the race and, as of today, is no longer on the air.

“The DSCC has now spent more than 2 million in Kentucky and continues to make targeted investments in the ground game while monitoring the race for future investments, but is currently not on the air in the state,” a DSCC official told CQ Roll Call."
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