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mudtoe

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 7:34:08 PM

Apparently it's now illegal for reporters to accept information from government employees which those employees aren't supposed to leak. Fox News reporter James Rosen was labeled a "criminal co-conspirator" in an FBI affidavit submitted to a judge in order to get a search warrant for Rosen's personal emails and telephone communications.

I guess that's one way to stifle news reporting the administration doesn't like. This should scare you folks. All government has to do is classify stuff that would be embarrassing to them as secret, and then any reporter who obtains that information is committing a crime and could be arrested. I'm sure the KGB would approve.


Justice Department affidavit labels Fox News journalist as possible ‘co-conspirator’


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[Edited by: mudtoe at 5/20/2013 7:35:27 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 5:45:32 AM

"Also, the DOJ's stated rational for keeping it secret was that they said they believed Rosen was actively engaged in espionage."

Which is why I said five days ago that Holder lied in order to get a judge to issue the warrant.
It was obvious that's what happened.
Look at this criminal activity from this administration.
Why are people supporting these people?
They all stand with hands in pockets shrugging their shoulders.



[Edited by: theTower at 5/29/2013 5:49:40 AM EST]
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 1:11:05 AM

Mudtoe: <<<"Holder went judge shopping to get secret warrant against Rosen">>>

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I had wondered about that! Any sitting judge worth his salt and any modicum of integrity would have a hard time signing an illegitimate subpoena.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 11:05:24 PM

Holder went judge shopping to get secret warrant against Rosen


Holder had to try several times to get a judge to agree to keep the search warrant for Rosen's emails secret. The first two judges weren't willing to keep the warrant secret indefinitely. Also, the DOJ's stated rational for keeping it secret was that they said they believed Rosen was actively engaged in espionage.

That affidavit is looking more and more like a lie every day.


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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 11:37:11 AM

Looks like the water is getting hotter around Holder. He testified last week to Congress that he didn't have any knowledge of it and wasn't involved. Turns out he was involved and signed off on the affidavit to get the search warrant for Rosen's emails.

Did Holder mislead Congress on pursuit of reporters’ records?


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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 2:12:44 PM

Fly, you are wondering off topic with a good topic, the media is categorically biased one way or a another. Gone are the days where information is strained for accuracy and then reported as information that allows the viewer to form their own opinions.

In light of this, bloggers are simply reporters without benefit of an organized periodical or channel.

It really is this simple, if an American is suspected of committing a crime AND enough evidence is present to substantiate this charge in the judgement of a judiciary member, it is then and only then that intrusive investigation may occur. Using the tools of the legal system to harass Americans is inappropriate, and illegal. This is why the administration led by Eric WithHolder are now setting pretty in hot water.
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 4:44:10 PM

>>>But here is the bottom line — the media shield law, which I am prepared to support, and I know Sen. Graham supports, still leaves an unanswered question, which I have raised many times: What is a journalist today in 2013? We know it’s someone that works for Fox or AP, but does it include a blogger? Does it include someone who is tweeting? Are these people journalists and entitled to constitutional protection? We need to ask 21st century questions about a provision that was written over 200 years ago.”<<<

Is it possible this politician doesn't understand what the Bill of Rights is all about? Does he honestly think that politicians have the authority to determine who gets to exercise the right to free speech?
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 1:47:45 PM

Mudtoe: <<<"And if you disagree with his conclusion that he did nothing wrong, he'll just say that's because you are a racist.">>>

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How does this go? Something like "bingo" and "boom"? :)
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 11:37:17 AM

EZ: "My money's on Eric WithHolder finding that Eric WithHolder and his office did not do anything that might be improper. "


And if you disagree with his conclusion that he did nothing wrong, he'll just say that's because you are a racist.


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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 3:22:36 AM

My money's on Eric WithHolder finding that Eric WithHolder and his office did not do anything that might be improper.
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:25:44 PM

>>>>>and now, obama want's holder to investigate himself, what a joke. Hey obama, what about a special prosecutor instead?<<<<<<

But it worked so well with the State Department investigating of Benghazi, the DOJ investigation of Fast and Furious, and the IRS using its own IG to investigate the IRS targeting of conservatives.

What do we have to worry about?
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:20:20 PM

>>>>>Just look around... Half on the right say he is an empty chair, the other half says he is a dictator. Which is it? Both can not be true.<<<<<<

Unlike some groups conservatives don’t all march to the same tune or believe the same thing all of the time. Some of us think he is an empty chair others think he is a dictator.

I believe tells he people what he wants done and doesn’t want to know how it was done so that he can play Sgt. Schultz when it suits his needs.

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 5/24/2013 8:22:46 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 7:15:01 PM

Holder on May 15th: "With regard to the potential prosecution of the press for the disclosure of material, that is not something I've ever been involved in, heard of, or would think would be wise policy."

NBC News on May 24th:
DOJ confirms Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's emails

But wait! There's more! The guy running this investigation that is now coming to light, was none other than US Atty Ronald Machen Jr. Don't know who he is? How about a brief history of him:

• Nominated by President Obama in 2009
• Machen was an early and frequent campaign donor to Obama during the 2008 election, giving close to the maximum amount allowed by law. He gave $2,300 in the general election and nearly as much during the primary.
• A former volunteer for Obama for America, contributor to the president's election campaign
• Machen and Obama have been acquaintances since Harvard Law School.
• Machen, a 1994 graduate, has been quoted in several publications calling Obama, a 1991 graduate, a "legend."
• Machen was one of the first people who donated to the president's U.S. Senate campaign 2003.

US attorney, Obama ally takes heat for handling of leak probes

It truly is fascinating how as the pieces to the scandals come to light, a picture starts to evolve, even when so much effort is given to suppress any fact finding. Coincidence? I think not.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 6:44:27 PM

nstr: "Sounds like an attempt at reporter intimidation doesn't it? "


Sort of like the IRS intimidating conservative groups. Also, sort of like the IRS being left to investigate itself. Are we sensing a pattern here (I'm sure our friends on the left see nothing...)


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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 1:41:09 PM

and now, obama want's holder to investigate himself, what a joke. Hey obama, what about a special prosecutor instead?
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:47:41 AM

they were not after anyone the sole purpose was to intimidate reporters so that the would not dig up any dirt on the w,h
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:33:20 AM

when bho admin gets so big and so unkept, at some point all his bad $3&t that is going on will start to leak out by some disgruntled koolaid drining staff member - they can call him a leak or a whistleblower or whatever, in my book he is a hero for disclosing to any news reporter the bad stuff that bho and his admin are doing.
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:31:26 AM

1933.
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:27:40 AM

michaelphoenix2, "They are not after the reporters though they are after the people who leaked the information..."

Then why go after Rosen's personal email, hos phone records AND his parents phone records???

Sounds like an attempt at reporter intimidation doesn't it?
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 8:22:36 AM

News:
Holder OK'd search warrant for Fox News reporter's private emails, official says

Uh-oh.....you know you are in trouble (Obama) when people in your agencies start outing the people at the top, and NBC News is reporting it!
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 9:12:35 PM

"They are not after the reporters though"

Irrelevant.
With obamas full knowledge yet he will deny it
Holder lied and named Rosen as a co-conspirator in order to get a judge to issue the warrant to go after Rosens emails and his family.
That is NOT how the investigation is supposed to work.
Get over yourselves.
The One you have waited for is an obscenely corrupt disgustingly sick excuse for a POTUS that this country possibly has ever seen. Or will ever see.
I can't tell you how wide I am smiling watching this Chicago goof step all over himself trying to lie to cover his previous lies.
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 2:51:25 PM

They are not after the reporters though they are after the people who leaked the information. A way of doing this is by tracking who the reporters talked to. Its how an invistigation works.
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 10:46:39 AM

wf: "Would it have been OK if an MSNBC reporter reported on a leak from Dubya's administration? "


As long as the leaker gave the information of their own free will to the MSNBC reporter (i.e. the leaker wasn't being blackmailed or something), then the leaker is criminally liable, not the reporter.


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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 9:46:15 AM

"Damned if you, damned if you don't..."

Exactly - they will twist the reality of the situation to suit their conspiracy theories. This is not to say that the extremeists on the other side of the aisle don't do the same...
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 9:40:37 AM

Dictator?!! How about, "I am the decider"?

Get over yourselves.

The Republicans in Congress demanded an answer to the leaks. This is where that investigation took us.

Damned if you, damned if you don't...
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 9:36:01 AM

"The empty chair dictator."

A contradiction in terms; God-love the Tea Party point of view!
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 4:59:26 AM

"Would it have been OK if an MSNBC reporter reported on a leak from Dubya's administration?"

You mean like the NYT and the NSA?
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 1:33:12 AM

Would it have been OK if an MSNBC reporter reported on a leak from Dubya's administration?
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 9:36:55 PM

It seems like just yesterday that Obama had this Freudian slip about republicans:
<<<"We're going to punish our enemies and we're going to reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us".

Labeling a member of a conservative press group as a criminal co-conspirator is just one of the many ways to punish your "enemies". Others include throwing the IRS, FBI, ATF, ICE, or even OSHA at them. Use the federal agencies to always keep them busy defending themselves for manufactured charges, make them sorry that they dared to have a non-liberal viewpoint.
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 9:02:35 PM

"You ask why not and then state that you don't believe the 'empty chair' routine to be reality"

Its reality when Obama needs it to be to cover his behind
Just as the dictator persona is needed when he needs the appearance of being in charge.
Seems to help his approval with some people too.
The empty chair dictator.


[Edited by: theTower at 5/22/2013 9:05:37 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:51:59 PM

"Why not?
Obama denying everything and claiming to support a free press gives him the appearance of a completely detached president "an empty chair" and is oblivious to what the executive branch, his branch, has been doing.
I find that unlikely."

You ask why not and then state that you don't believe the 'empty chair' routine to be reality. That is 'why not'. If one is just an appearance and the other is the reality, than you have just answered my question with regards to your own opinion.
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:51:53 PM

WS: "Just look around... Half on the right say he is an empty chair, the other half says he is a dictator. Which is it? Both can not be true. "


I see no conflict between those two statements, they are just two sides of the coin. He gives orders like a dictator, but when it comes time to take responsibility for those orders or the actions of his subordinates, he's an empty chair.


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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:48:48 PM

"Which is it? Both can not be true."

Why not?
Obama denying everything and claiming to support a free press yet obviously whats happened blatantly contradicts that. This gives him the appearance of a completely detached president "an empty chair" and is oblivious to what the executive branch, his branch, has been doing.
I find that unlikely.
I find that hard to be true unless we have an executive branch that has gone rouge and is operating without executive authority and its DOJ has decided to take it upon itself to trample the first amendment.
Seems to me it would be more like the actions of a dictator if Obama were to give instructions to his administration that not only violates the constitution as well as his oath of office.
Either way, the executive branch is a disaster.
Depending on the situation, Obama gives the appearance of a buffoon or a commanding domineering executive. He will choose which ever helps him politically.

[Edited by: theTower at 5/22/2013 8:51:50 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:27:20 PM

"Who ever believed that?"

Just look around... Half on the right say he is an empty chair, the other half says he is a dictator. Which is it? Both can not be true.
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 7:07:20 PM

Its not just one reporter - its becomming a pattern - Hey anyone - is it "1984" yet.
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>>>Sharyl Attkisson, the Emmy-award winning CBS News investigative reporter, says that her personal and work computers have been compromised and are under investigation.

"I can confirm that an intrusion of my computers has been under some investigation on my end for some months but I'm not prepared to make an allegation against a specific entity today as I've been patient and methodical about this matter," Attkisson told POLITICO on Tuesday. "I need to check with my attorney and CBS to get their recommendations on info we make public."

In an earlier interview with WPHT Philadelphia, Attkisson said that though she did not know the full details of the intrustion, "there could be some relationship between these things and what's happened to James [Rosen]," the Fox News reporter who became the subject of a Justice Dept. investigation after reporting on CIA intelligence about North Korea in 2009.<<<

This is like an onion - the more layers one peals back the more one finds and it causes folks to cry in the process.
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 2:27:18 PM

"So then he is NOT an empty chair as the other half of the Right believes?"

Who ever believed that?
That is how Obama is trying to get away with trampling all over our Constitution.
Seargant Schultz.
Something the majority of the Left seems perfectly willing to accept.

[Edited by: theTower at 5/22/2013 2:32:51 PM EST]
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 2:22:43 PM

"If you think for a minute that Obama knows nothing about anything, you are naive."

So then he is NOT an empty chair as the other half of the Right believes?
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 2:01:37 PM

"I'm not holding my breath, but I would be pleasantly surprised if it happened."


seems to be headed that way

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"It's not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charges"

This has been the Democrat's catch-all ruse for years. The DOJ now uses this same tactic to conduct political dirty work.

Holder is Obama's personal henchman and America's modern day Rasputin. If you think for a minute that Obama knows nothing about anything, you are naive.
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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 10:47:08 AM

btc, "Well let's see what the Architech Karl Rove, who leaked the name of Valerie Plame during the GWB administration, says on this matter..."

You are completely wrong here. It was Richard Armitage, Colin Powell's deputy that did the leaking.

That was, in fact established in the beginning of the investigation.

Check your facts before you start making these accusations.

Furthermore, btc, what was Libby charged with? Do you know? It wasn't leaking.
Was anyone charged with leaking?

[Edited by: nstrdnvstr at 5/22/2013 10:50:03 AM EST]
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 11:01:32 PM

MSNBC going against Obama could be too much of a stretch but if you have CNN, ABC, CBS and Fox all casting the Administration in a bad light, that would not bode well for the 2014 and 2016 elections.
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Bell: "They are all reporters, journalists, media specialists. They are a family."


I'm not sure I buy that, but in this case I hope you are right and I am wrong, because if you are right that will mean the MSM might, just might, stop being Obama's shill. I'm not holding my breath, but I would be pleasantly surprised if it happened.


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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 9:57:59 AM

The AP extends across the Democrat/Republican line. While Fox is definitely to the right, AP is not. If this type of hammering of the media were to continue, I can imagine that the media would eventually turn on the Administration. Nothing unifies a group of people quicker than an outside enemy.

In the US we are separated by lots of lines. Braves vs Mets fans, Yankees vs Southerners, Georgians vs Alabamians, Blacks vs Whites, Puerto Ricans vs Mexican-Americans, etc, etc. However, on 9-11 we were all Americans because we were attacked.

The media has its left and right, sure, but underneath? They are all reporters, journalists, media specialists. They are a family. I have personally seen a news team that got into a physical situation and a news team from a rival network rush in to save them. If this Administration keeps attacking media outlets it could find itself in a bad light from all or most media outlets. Journalists consider the First Amendment to be sacred, as they should.
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Conservatives are ready to "eat their own".

Yum!

But during an appearance on NBC's "Meet The Press," McConnell declined to attack the administration over the issue.

"Actually, I do think these national security leaks are very important and it looks to me like this is an investigation that needs to happen because national security leaks, of course, can get our agents overseas killed," McConnell said.

The AP reported in May 2012 that the CIA had thwarted a plot by an al-Qaeda affiliate to bomb a U.S.-bound airplane. It was later revealed that the would-be bomber was a U.S. spy, and the news put an end to the ongoing CIA operation. The Justice Department investigation is thought to have occurred as a result.

When pressed by host David Gregory about whether DOJ's conduct in the matter should be reviewed, McConnell reiterated that he was concerned about the leak itself. He did not criticize the administration on First Amendment grounds."

Are the cons here with them or against them?
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 8:03:15 AM

Well let's see what the Architech Karl Rove, who leaked the name of Valerie Plame during the GWB administration, says on this matter,

The Lying Karl Rove.

"Rove told Fox News host Megyn Kelly on Monday that “every American has sympathy for the release of confidential secret information of the government” but that the news about Rosen was “deeply troubling.”

“The focus should be on the people who break their oath and put the American people at risk, not on reporters who gather this information,” Rove explained. “That should not be the focus of these investigations.”

“We had to confront this question during the Bush administration. There were leaks of classified information and in each and every instance, the focus was on the potential leak, not the reporter who received it,” he continued. “Can you imagine what would have happened if The New York Times, which was the recipient of a number of those confidential leaks, if the Bush administration had asked for the phone records — secretly asked for the phone records of up to 100 of editors and reporters at The New York Times?”

Kelly reminded Rove that he had a role in leaking Valerie Plame’s identity, and that former New York Times reporter Judy Miller — who now works for Fox News — was jailed for 85 days for refusing to testify against I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, former Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff."

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." - 1st Amendment of the US Constitution

If you can manage to keep people from exercising this one amendment you can then defeat the rest of the Constitution. Whether you are Democrat or Republican, the last thing you want is a government that can suppress the PRESS.

Our founding fathers thought this amendment was so important that they put this amendment first. This President has enjoyed a pretty easy ride by most of the PRESS. While Fox, CNN, MSNBC may not be friends, they are all journalists. Imagine the damage to Democrats if they band together against an Administration.

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:40:55 PM

Justice Department’s scrutiny of Fox News reporter James Rosen in leak case draws fire
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Journalists, First Amendment watchdogs and government transparency advocates reacted with outrage Monday to the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks.

Critics said the government’s suggestion that James Rosen, Fox News’s chief Washington correspondent, was a “co-conspirator” for soliciting classified information threatened to criminalize press freedoms protected by the First Amendment. Others also suggested that the Justice Department’s claim in pursuing an alleged leak from the State Department was little more than pretext to seize his e-mails to build their case against the suspected leaker.“It is downright chilling,” Fox News executive Michael Clemente said in a statement. “We will unequivocally defend [Rosen’s] right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press.”

Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists, said, “Asking for information has never been deemed a crime.”

The reactions followed a Washington Post report on the inner workings of a Justice Department investigation into a possible leak of classified information about North Korea.

The case centers on Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a former State Department arms expert accused of passing details to Rosen from a classified report within hours of its release to a small circle within the intelligence community. Investigators also targeted Rosen, calling him a co-conspirator in an affidavit seeking a search warrant for Rosen’s personal e-mails.

In the affidavit, FBI agent Reginald Reyes said Rosen “asked, solicited and encouraged Mr. Kim to disclose sensitive United States internal documents and intelligence information.” He added, “The reporter did so by employing flattery and playing to Mr. Kim’s vanity and ego.”

That detail particularly irked media lawyers and transparency experts, who said the Justice Department had crossed a line by equating routine reporting practices with possible criminal activity.

“Neither flattery nor an insistent tone rises to the level of a criminal offense,” Aftergood said.

Investigators pulled Rosen’s security badge records, phone logs and his personal e-mails, but they never charged him with a crime. No reporter has ever been prosecuted for seeking classified information.

Kim was accused in 2010 of disclosing national defense information; his trial could begin in 2014.

In response to questions about how Rosen was characterized in the affidavit, the Justice Department said in a statement Monday: “Saying that there is probable cause to believe that someone has committed a crime and charging the person with that crime are two different things.”

“No reporter has been charged in this case,” the statement added. “And, at this time we do not anticipate bringing additional charges against anyone.”

The investigation brought another controversy to the doorstep of the White House, where press secretary Jay Carney on Monday was besieged during his daily briefing with questions on whether President Obama believes it is ever a crime for reporters to solicit information from a source.from the Washington Post
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:22:19 PM

The thing that's different here is that in order to get a search warrant for the reporter an FBI agent had to fill out an affidavit. That affidavit had to paint the reporter as a suspect in a crime, otherwise the warrant would likely not be granted. So the question is, did the FBI agent perjure themselves by lying to get the warrant, or is the Obama administration now saying that if someone in government tells a reporter something that is classified, the reporter is guilty of a crime. It's got to be one or the other.


Also remember that in the past when reporters have gotten a hold of something that's classified government would ask them not to reveal it for national security reasons (the AP scandal for example), often offering an exclusive when it was OK to talk about it as an incentive for the news organization to remain quiet. Now, if it was a crime for the news organization to be in possession of such information, why in all these cases didn't an FBI agent just show up at the head of the news organization's home and tell him or her that if they went with the story they would be immediately arrested for conspiracy to commit espionage, or some such crime? The fact that it hasn't worked that way in the past tells me that someone at the DOJ is playing fast and loose with the law. Also note that Rosen was never questioned, let alone arrested; so if what he did was in fact a crime, then why hasn't he been at least questioned if not indited. Therefore, it seems to me that somebody lied on the affidavit in order to get the warrant. They didn't know who the leaker was so they decided to bug the reporter in an effort to find him or her, and in order to do that they had to lie to get a search warrant.

That's what I think happened.


mudtoe


[Edited by: mudtoe at 5/20/2013 10:25:00 PM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:18:21 PM

I am going to admit that I have mixed emotions about this. A free press is key to keeping the public informed about what our government is doing. But as my father used to say “the government does things that the American people don’t know about and should not know about.” On the surface I agree with that statement. One example of this would be the dooms day bunker we had in Virginia. That should never have been reported on.

The problem I have is when the government starts to violate the laws of the land and misuses its power. Be it for personal gain, to push an agenda or for political advantage. This is where the press comes in and a balance needs to be found.

The fact that there was another atemped bombing of a plane is questionable.

The things like fast and furious and the IRS scandal is something the press should have been all over.

If you want to go after the leak, DO IT. But to label a reporter a criminal coconspirator for aggressively searching for the news and reporting it is a bit much.
Part of the problem is the government could call anything a national security issue or part of an ongoing federal investigation.



[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 5/20/2013 10:20:56 PM EST]
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theTower
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:58:09 PM

"To get the leak and make it public is co-conspiracy"

This reminded me when the liberals went bonkers when the NYT had the goods on the warrant less wiretapping NSA program that someone LEAKED to them.
Off with their heads at the NYT they shouted.
Right.
They cheered loudly as we all know.
Rotflol.
Hypocrites.

Of course leaking stuff about Bush was/is/and always will be AOK
Pathetic Obama apologists





[Edited by: theTower at 5/20/2013 10:00:06 PM EST]
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EZExit
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:34:06 PM

I can't say that I am surprised that Washington is now controlling the press, this is typical of a socialistic government, something that we continue to morph into. Mudtoe, don't take the charge of criminal co-conspirator too hard for a label on a respected reporter, they had to create a charge in order to get a search warrant legally, this part of our law hasn't changed yet.
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