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goldseeker
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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 5:44:45 AM

It is way over due.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 3:12:17 PM

"I think he fit's this...

maybe not to you"

You are right. It doesn't. I will stick to the Constitutional definition of treason.
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 12:56:22 PM

That you don't know the definition of treason, you are correct
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Oran's Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as "...[a]...citizen's actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation]."

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I think he fit's this...

maybe not to you
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 9:37:08 AM

"Thanks! You've fully proved my point!!"

That you don't know the definition of treason, you are correct.

[Edited by: jayrad1957 at 6/18/2013 9:38:06 AM EST]
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 9:32:53 AM

Weasel, you are right. Some just want to see things as they wish to. Damn the facts!
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 5:32:09 AM

in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort
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Thanks! You've fully proved my point!!

And

war is declared.

and levying (We are waging war against terrorists) are not the same thing, dude!

IMPEACH NOBAMA!!!



[Edited by: Tru2psu2 at 6/18/2013 5:36:33 AM EST]
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 8:57:25 PM

You and your silly facts jayrad!
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 8:07:40 PM

"What IS a Treasonable offense???!!!!"

This might help.

Treason can occur only when war is declared.
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 8:00:57 PM

tru2 made the comment.
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Guns provided to Mexico resulted in the death of at least one US citizen..

Yeah, let's give guns to those that cut out and eat the heart and liver of their dead foe..What IS a Treasonable offense???!!!!

We are losing our country and our sanity...
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 11:22:45 AM

nst, I am not saying that. tru2 said it was treason to supply weapons to Syrian terrorists and to Mexico. How is that treason? Going by the Constitutional definition of treason, I would like to know how that is treason. tru2 made the comment.
nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 5:53:51 AM

Jayrad, are you saying that Obama didn't provide weapons to drug lords in Mexico?

Who did it then? And why haven't they been jailed?
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 5:26:07 AM

Twice you have been wrong today.
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Wrong?

He's the top of the government...

[Edited by: Tru2psu2 at 6/17/2013 5:26:36 AM EST]
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 5:38:44 PM

"Treason: Providing weapons to terrorists in Syria

and Mexico as well.."

Twice you have been wrong today.
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 4:51:34 PM

Treason: Providing weapons to terrorists in Syria

and Mexico as well..

IMPEACH!
Passer
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 5:40:48 PM

J1200,

Now we're even, you with soap for your mouth and me needing smelling salts after passing out after hearing a rational Conservative (who doesn't suffer from sour grapes)-- in the 21st Century, yet.





[Edited by: Passer at 6/13/2013 5:42:59 PM EST]
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 7:46:07 PM

"Having said that now I have to go wash out my mouth with soap. >:P"

My personal preference was for Lux, but I found Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor - heady, but with just a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand... ---Ralphie (A Christmas Story)
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 7:35:22 PM

>>LOL!!! johnnyg1200, it wasn't really that hard or bad to be a rational thinking person, now was it? ;)

Thanks.<<

Cant tyupe FIngners gooong numbbb.
btc1
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 7:34:05 PM

LOL!!! johnnyg1200, it wasn't really that hard or bad to be a rational thinking person, now was it? ;)

Thanks.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 7:28:21 PM

Most of you who have seen my posts know that I am a conservative and lean more towards the Tea-Party. I Think Obama is spending this country in to bankruptcy. I think his healthcare overhaul will be a disaster both financially and medically. I think his rush towards green energy is being done wrong and to fast while not providing any benefits, especially when you look at the amount of money spent and the impact on energy production. I even think he is a socialist and in over his head.

None of the things I have listed are illegal and until someone can show me proof of a law that was broken by Obama himself I cannot support a call for impeachment.


In this regard I have to agree with the people from the left side of the isle.

Having said that now I have to go wash out my mouth with soap. >:P

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 6/12/2013 7:32:58 PM EST]
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 6:11:34 PM

"that all of these Obama regime crimes and shenanigans are justified because of similar wrongdoing by Nixon's administration 40 years ago?"

Name the crimes and persons who have been convicted of said crimes in the Obama administration. I won't be waiting..
btc1
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 5:18:46 PM

randog, I do not see how you got that out of a sarcastic post. Grab at anything and try to spin it.

I agree with MP2. Impeach him for what? Because of who he is?!!


[Edited by: btc1 at 6/12/2013 5:28:04 PM EST]
michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 4:45:49 PM

Ill ask it again. Impeach him for what?


What crime has been commited?
randog
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 3:01:45 PM

Are you seriously arguing that two wrongs make a right - that all of these Obama regime crimes and shenanigans are justified because of similar wrongdoing by Nixon's administration 40 years ago?

What Nixon's administration did was clearly wrong and illegal. There is no question about that. But in comparison to what we have seen from this most corrupt administration in American history, Nixon's activities appear to have been under-inspired and would be by today's standards the functional equivalent of jaywalking.

Just as Obama's is the most corrupt administration in history, it is indeed as he says one of the most transparent - we can clearly see the adverse impact electing democrats has on this country. Now in a second term, the entitlement president sees no reason to answer to anyone as he sets out to chill opposition and unabashedly pursue an agenda hell-bent on compromising our strength and security, and destroying our moral compass.
btc1
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 12:53:35 PM

Oh I see. Everytime there is a two term Democrat, he must be impeached for the Nixon payback. No other real reason.
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 12:33:04 PM

I have heard this exact statement said for the past 35 years.
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High past time....something was done about it....
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 12:31:09 PM

He's a lame duck and the next in line to the throne
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We can keep going until we find somebody that is good.....
randog
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 11:41:43 AM

He's a lame duck and the next in line to the throne makes Harry Dunne and Lloyd Christmas look like they belong in MENSA. Couple the alternative with a protectionist media that will never allow Obama to be associated with any of these scandals (e.g., Bashir's most recent cries of racism), and the impeachment drive goes nowhere (even though it should because we have an obligation to hold our elected leaders accountable). Nixon really wasn't a crook, if judged by what are apparently today's standards.

The root cause of what we are witnessing both nationally and in specific areas of this country can be tied directly to one political party and the liberal, socialist fascists that run it. That should be the focus.
SUVFan
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 11:02:32 AM

Suppose he has committed "impeachable" offenses in someone's opinion? It would make no sense to move forward with impeachment proceedings now. Even if the House were to impeach President Obama, there's no chance that the Senate would convict him and remove him from office.

Better to let the factual inquiries continue and see where the evidence takes us. As more and more evidence of POTUS involvement builds -- if it does? -- the midterms will be devastating for the Democrats. Even then, I don't think there is any plausible scenario that will find 2/3 of the senate prepared to remove him from office.

The best thing is to continue to follow the evidence. Continue with hearings, and watch Democrats run away from the President as fast as they can.

Start working on the videos for the 2014 elections now.
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 10:43:20 AM

>>>"I think Clinton should have been impeached."

Clinton was impeached. Andrew Johnson was as well. Impeachment is not the same as being removed from office. Both men faced trial in the Senate. Both men did not receive the votes needed to be removed from office.<<<<

You are correct. Unfortunately the issue turned into a partisan fight and the issue became about sex instead of the perjury. Lost in the process was the issue of Clintons sexual misconduct as the Governor of Arkansas and while President. If he was the CEO of any corporation he would have been fired and possible jailed.
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 6:37:29 PM

"better spnd the time and energy on trying to stop Hillary Clinton,Michelle oBAMA AND bILL rICHARDSON"

What do Michelle Obama and Bill Richardson have to do with this?
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 6:36:28 PM

"I think Clinton should have been impeached."

Clinton was impeached. Andrew Johnson was as well. Impeachment is not the same as being removed from office. Both men faced trial in the Senate. Both men did not receive the votes needed to be removed from office.

Impeachment
wbacon
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 6:35:57 PM

better spnd the time and energy on trying to stop Hillary Clinton,Michelle oBAMA AND bILL rICHARDSON
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 6:14:01 PM

>>>>Is this a lesson learned from the Clinton impeachment debacle? I have often thought that the drive to impeach every Democratic President (all 2 of them, not including Carter) has in its heart a piece of revenge over Nixon.<<<<

I think Clinton should have been impeached. He lied to a federal grand jury. That’s called perjury. I don’t care why he lied, he lied while under oath and should not have been allowed to continue as president. Just like with Sanford, I was opposed to his reelection. I expect my elected officials to have at least the same moral character I have. If they can’t meet that standard I may as well run, and I’m not that good.

Obama on the other hand has not committed any actual crime and unless some actual crime can be attributed to him personally I will not support impeachment.
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 10:00:50 AM

"He was sworn to uphold the Constitution and has done NOTHING of the sort."

How about some proof to go along with the accusation? Thank you in advance.
ShanC
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 8:57:36 AM

>With ALL the lies to the American people , he sidesteps the Constitution and
>is so hypocritical he's GOT TO GO.....He was sworn to uphold the Constitution
>and has done NOTHING of the sort.

I have heard this exact statement said for the past 35 years.
americanmade1
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 7:52:05 AM

With ALL the lies to the American people , he sidesteps the Constitution and is so hypocritical he's GOT TO GO.....He was sworn to uphold the Constitution and has done NOTHING of the sort.
btc1
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 9:33:40 AM

If we did not impeach G W Bush, why should we even consider impeaching President Obama?
sgm4law
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 8:46:43 AM

"Impeachment is to disruptive and will divide the country even worse that Obama has or will. Impeachment is for to serious to be played around with as a game or a political tool."

Is this a lesson learned from the Clinton impeachment debacle? I have often thought that the drive to impeach every Democratic President (all 2 of them, not including Carter) has in its heart a piece of revenge over Nixon.
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 5:27:50 AM

The rabid right wingers are like spoiled children,if they don't get their way they throw a tantrum.
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What? Just pointing out the obvious, bud!
rwsb30
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 4:25:48 AM

The rabid right wingers are like spoiled children,if they don't get their way they throw a tantrum.....Sheesh !
johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 12:15:47 AM

I have said it before
I think Obama is the worst and most divisive president we have ever had.

But before we even talk about impeachment we need solid proof of an actual crime. Arrogance, stupidity and even being socialist is not a crime. He may have told people what he wanted done but if he didn’t tell people how to do it he isn’t legally responsible for the illegal actions they commit.

Impeachment is to disruptive and will divide the country even worse that Obama has or will. Impeachment is for to serious to be played around with as a game or a political tool.

[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 6/10/2013 12:18:50 AM EST]
Passer
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 7:56:45 PM

"Sooner is better than later." Said the Pied Piper about HIS rats to his fools and suckers.
goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2013 3:22:22 AM

Bring on the impeachment now. Sooner is better than later.
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 4:17:53 PM

"This proves that anyone with a grudge and a computer can make a charge. The evidence on the other hand is the real problem when dealing with reality on this topic."

Bingo.
gocatgo
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 1:11:15 PM

Fly, the topic is "time to impeach Obama now". Wanting to impeach Obama, because he is not a con works for most right wing nuts. More than a few cons would be perfectly content to impeach Obama based on their feelings as opposed to any evidence that would hold up in court.

The evidence from Goldseeker to date is "It is way overdue". Then of course we have "Time to impeach". And that my friends is all it takes to get a few zealot cons worked up into impeachment frenzy.

This proves that anyone with a grudge and a computer can make a charge. The evidence on the other hand is the real problem when dealing with reality on this topic.
MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 8:06:06 AM

"Charges of treason have been filed; Eric Holder refuses to act."

The "charges" are spurious... a combination of birther nonsense and other more recent grabs at straws (Benghazi, etc.). It's not worth anyone's time unless one has a lack of things to do.




"better spent on trying to slow down Hilary Clinton, Michelle obama and Bill richardson"

Instead of trying to slow those people down, why don't you find a Republican candidate who can exceed them (assuming there is one)?

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 6/2/2013 8:07:57 AM EST]
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 7:54:43 AM

It will set back the Dems, including Billary!
Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 7:54:05 AM

Do it!
wbacon
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 5:14:40 AM

better spent on trying to slow down Hilary Clinton, Michelle obama and Bill richardson
jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 10:37:43 PM

"Charges of treason have been filed"

Proof please.
RAB2010
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 10:15:14 PM

Impeachment? Charges of treason have been filed; Eric Holder refuses to act.

[Edited by: RAB2010 at 6/1/2013 10:15:52 PM EST]
Weaslespit
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 10:13:26 PM

johnny - Even if we don't agree on Obama's ranking in the history of past Presidents I respect your last post.

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 5/27/2013 10:14:32 PM EST]
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