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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:26:00 AM

Another one
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>>>One of President Barack Obama's re-election campaign co-chairmen used a leaked document from the IRS to attack GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney during the 2012 election, according to the National Organization for Marriage (NOM).

NOM, a pro-traditional marriage organization, claims the IRS leaked their 2008 confidential financial documents to the rival Human Rights Campaign. Those NOM documents were published on the Huffington Post on March 30, 2012. At that time, Joe Solmonese, a left-wing activist and Huffington Post contributor, was the president of the Human Rights Campaign (HRC). Solmonese was also a 2012 Obama campaign co-chairman.<<<

Will the irregularities ever stop/////////
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:04:47 PM

Yes, I thought the reference was to Fidel, and you are right there are many similarities.


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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:51:19 PM

mudtoe said: "Obama smokes cigarettes, not cigars, so he never came to mind when I read anything about Castro."

You're not thinking Castro as in "Fidel", are you? I was referring to Ariel Castro, the man who imprisoned and raped those 3 girls in Ohio. Although Obozo DOES have many of the same characteristics as Fidel... maybe just not the cigar habit!
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:46:14 PM

This is only part of an earlier quote so don’t yell at me about it. I know.

>>>>>They want to be able to say, well, he didn’t really have that batting average; he really wasn’t the first African American president;<<<<

I have black friends at work that tell me he isn’t black, he’s half white and your problem.

By the way they had Romney bumper stickers on their trucks too.
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nraacct
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 2:06:41 PM

Sounds like the "same old, same old".
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 12:00:38 PM

gocat said - " Naturally that does not stop an angry white mob from building a gallows and looking for heavy duty rope.
As for me I prefer a trial before the hangin'."

That my friend is a racial comment! That is some of btc's famous code words!

Gocat - listen to the man's own words. He is the one saying that its racist.
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>>>The problem is there are people in this country, maybe ten percent, I don’t know what the number, maybe twenty percent on a bad day, who want this president to have an asterisk next to his name in the history books, that he really wasn’t president. … They want to be able to say, well, he didn’t really have that batting average; he really wasn’t the first African American president; he really didn’t do health care; he really didn’t kill bin Laden. There’s an asterisk, and they have been fighting for that, the people like Donald Trump, since day one. They can’t stand the idea that he’s president, and a piece of it is racism. Not that somebody in one racial group doesn’t like somebody in another racial group, so what? It’s the sense that the white race must rule, that’s what racism is, and they can’t stand the idea that a man who’s not white is president. That is real, that sense of racial superiority and rule is in the hearts of some people in this country. Not all conservatives, not even all right-wingers, but it always comes through with this birther crap and these other references and somehow trying to erase ObamaCare, erase his record in history, and a big part of it is bought into by people like John Boehner, who’s not a bad guy, but he knows the only way he can talk to the hard right is talk their language.<<<

Don't believe me - fine - but listen to the man speak and Al Sharpton agrees....
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:48:17 AM

Fly, "race"? Because cons are made up of about 90% white people. When you have something besides your charge that proves Obama is involved in the Irs scandal get back to me. A "claim" ~ a statement without evidence and from Breitbart, Lol. You can do better than this.Afs, "I know nothing" and you no doubt believe that any day now those stockpiles of wmd will be found in the Iraqi desert.

Many cons are all to happy to spread a baseless charge without evidence. This is what you get from the family values party, tsk, tsk, tsk.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 5:56:03 PM

nsb: "I don't think obama is as bad as castro, yet, but there are some erie similarity. "


Obama smokes cigarettes, not cigars, so he never came to mind when I read anything about Castro. However, every time I hear the Carly Simon song "You're So Vain" I do instantly think of Obama.


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[Edited by: mudtoe at 5/16/2013 5:57:50 PM EST]
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 5:24:50 PM

I don't think obama is as bad as castro, yet, but there are some erie similarity.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 5:16:33 PM

That's really just weird. You don't actually believe that yourself, do you?
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 3:35:56 PM

sgm4law said: "That's pretty far off the wall."

Not at all. There are WAY too many similarities for the comparison to be so conveniently dismissed by you.

- Both Obozo and Castro used excess power to maintain control over their victims.
- Both Obozo and Castro don't have any respect for those who hold different beliefs/values than they do.
- Both Obozo and Castro would continue their exploitations indefinitely or until they got caught, whichever came first.
- Both Obozo and Castro brought misery to those under their control.
- Both Obozo and Castro thought they were smart enough to prevent getting caught.
- Both Obozo's and Castro's victims longingly ached for a future day when they would be free of their oppressor's control.

The more you think about it, the more you find consistencies with Obozo's & Castro's modus operandi.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 2:40:03 PM

"Other than the usual right wing paranoia from the usual suspects there has been no evidence that Obama has done anything wrong."

So you believe Sgt Schultz...er...I mean President Obama when he says he knows nothing?
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Edger
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 1:42:12 PM

You mean there was another illegal use of the IRS on the American people by obama's transparent administration? Was it Malik Obama's foundation? Was it any of the numerous conservatve Americans hoping to establish a tax free organization?
Was this apology from the IRS arranged to displace Bengazi from the news? Time will tell.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 1:06:17 PM

gocat - you have been listening to Chris Matthews and Al Sharpton too much.

Since when does race enter into it when the IRS uses its power to influence an election?

Since when does race enter into it when the DOJ does what seems to be an illegal seizure of records - not once but many times?

Since when is it racial when the President, Secretary of State and a host of others come out and repeatedly lie to the American public?

I guess its now become SOP for the liberals to throw down the race card anytime something looks bad for a liberal. That merits the two blocking of the Bravo Sierra flags.
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gocatgo
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 12:56:00 PM

Other than the usual right wing paranoia from the usual suspects there has been no evidence that Obama has done anything wrong. Naturally that does not stop an angry white mob from building a gallows and looking for heavy duty rope.
As for me I prefer a trial before the hangin'.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:47:04 AM

"I suppose you would have said the same thing about the 3 girls imprisoned in Ohio by Ariel Castro."

Seriously? That's pretty far off the wall.

But don't mind me, just continue the joyous anti-Obama orgy of the last week!
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 7:46:29 AM

"A few more days like this, obama will claim he was born in Kenya". - Dennis Miller
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 7:36:38 AM

sgm4law said: "I can almost hear the salivation hitting the ground."

I suppose you would have said the same thing about the 3 girls imprisoned in Ohio by Ariel Castro.

Yep, they were eager to get out from a tyrant's oppression. Yep, they were eager to see justice served and Castro pay penance for his crimes. But salivating just to see him carted away? I don't think so.

We're just patiently waiting for the DNA tests to come back, finding Obozo's fingerprints all over these scandals. It would be good to see him receive punishment for his crimes, but it'll be much better to see the nation return to its former glory without him there at the top, repeatedly raping it.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 6:55:50 AM

noseatbelt said: "obama had nothing to do, the I.R.S. or going after the A.P., or bengahzi. Just ask him, Holder, or carney, they will tell you."

And they'll also say that they'll "get to the bottom of this", won't they?

It almost makes you spit out your coffee when Holder or Obozo try to convince Americans that they're actually interested in justice!
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:55:49 PM

johnny: "A messy impeachment hearing win lose or draw is never good for the nation."


I don't think that as of this point in time there is evidence to support impeachment proceedings. That's not to say that I don't think Obama was involved; it just means that I don't see the trail of evidence left leading to him. There have been only two Presidents who were stupid enough to leave that kind of trail, Nixon and Clinton; Nixon because he was paranoid and wouldn't leave the dirty work to others so that he had deny-ability (like Obama), and Clinton because he lacked the self discipline to keep his zipper up in the Oval Office. I don't think Andrew Johnson did anything to deserve impeachment. He was impeached simply for not going along with the desire of Congress to meat out harsh punishment to the South after war.


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[Edited by: mudtoe at 5/15/2013 10:58:05 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:52:25 PM

Johnny - using the IRS to stall the collection of funds by one political group in order to affect the results of a Presidential election is against the law as far as I know.

But I'm sure Obama will try and say he knew nothing - Sgt. Shultz had nuttin on this guy.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 8:24:07 PM

There will be no impeachment. And unless there are crimes that can be directly and cleanly attributed Obama there should be no impeachment. Incompetence is not a crime. Playing politics to get a disaster of a healthcare bill passed is not a crime. Even being a socialist is not a crime. I didn’t vote for him but 51% of the voting public give or take did. So we are stuck with him for about three and a half more years. America is resilient and can survive a lousy president. We have done it before and will do it again in the future.

A messy impeachment hearing win lose or draw is never good for the nation. Besides think about this. President Biden. Now I need to go was my hands after typing that.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 5:49:07 PM

Just think mudtoe (and others) this same IRS will be the ones that are involved in Obamacare and part of Obamacare is that all you medical records be on computers and accessible to "doctors".

Doesn't it make your heart go pittypat knowing that the IRS and its merry band of lawbreakers will have access to ever more private information about you.

Is this beginning to sound like some kind of weird SCI FI story or what.

Like I read in a book a long time back - "I know you paranoid. The real question is are you paranoid enough?"

[Edited by: flyboyUT at 5/15/2013 5:54:21 PM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 5:44:03 PM

flyboy: "I wonder just how much more needs to come out about the utter lack of respect for the rule of law exhibited by this administration before the liberals will say "enough"?"


The liberals are just salivating over the idea that soon they will have access to their political opponents' medical information as well as their financial information. If you are an aspiring Republican politician better make sure that you never had any medical treatment for anything that might be used against you, and if you are a conservative young person (there are a few), better never seek treatment for anything like the following. If you got into a bar fight in college and had to get some stitches, you are busted. If you ever needed penicillin for anything that burned or itched in the nether regions, you are busted. If you were ever treated for any mental illness, busted. If you ever went to rehab, busted. If you ever had an abortion, busted. Same for your spouse and children. Now I know that some of these things, like having an abortion or going to rehab, are considered a badge of honor if you are a democrat politician, but that won't stop them from using such things as a club against a republican candidate.


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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 5:11:03 PM

SGM what part of they broke the law don't you understand? Are you accepting this abuse of power and lawbreaking? YOu comment kind of surprises me.

But here is something else for you to either salivate over or dismiss
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>>>Amid a firestorm about the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting conservative groups and wide concern that the tax service will be administering Obamacare, the IRS is also the subject of a class action lawsuit alleging that 15 of its agents improperly seized 10 million Americans’ medical records.

Attorney Robert Barnes filed the lawsuit in mid-March on behalf of a John Doe Company and individuals whose records were seized in California Superior Court, according to a report from the Courthouse News Service.

“This is an action involving the corruption and abuse of power by several Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) agents (collectively referred to as “Defendants” herein) during a raid of John Doe Company, in the southern district of California, on March 11, 2011,” the complaint, quoted by Courthouse News, reads. “In a case involving solely a tax matter involving a former employee of the company, these agents stole more than 60,000,000 medical records of more than 10,000,000 Americans, including at least 1,000,000 Californians.”The complaint explains there was no warrant authorizing the seizure of the medical records and the records were not germane to the IRS search. The complaint alleges that the seizure violated the 4th Amendment, according to the extensive quotes from the complaint complied by Courthouse News.<<<

I wonder just how much more needs to come out about the utter lack of respect for the rule of law exhibited by this administration before the liberals will say "enough"?
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 4:54:52 PM

saliva hitting the floor, Is that anything like obama giving a certain msnbc talking head a tingle down his leg, or was it a trickle?

Now we know, obama had nothing to do, the I.R.S. or going after the A.P., or bengahzi. Just ask him, Holder, or carney, they will tell you.



[Edited by: noseatbelt at 5/15/2013 4:59:08 PM EST]
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 4:35:58 PM

This is all going to eventually seep up to Obamas desk. We are only salivating because our Nation has been wronged by this corrupt administration for too long.

Please, no talk of impeachment, it will only make him a martyr!

His punishment should be worse -- A sentence of 3.5 year of corruption exposure while finishing his term! Stay and enjoy it sir!

He doesn't do anything constructive anyways so no big deal. New poster child for Government corruption will be BH OBAMA!

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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 11:16:40 AM

You are right - mudtoe - who actually believes Obama's statement from Monday - “If, in fact, IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that is outrageous, and there is no place for it, and they have to be held fully accountable,” does this include you Mr. President?
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 11:08:02 AM

You know, there is a connection between the IRS scandal and the Benghazi scandal. At their roots they are both about doing absolutely anything required to ensure Obama's re-election, and it doesn't matter that it's illegal and it doesn't even matter if people die in the process.



mudtoe



[Edited by: mudtoe at 5/15/2013 11:11:18 AM EST]
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:27:21 AM

I can almost hear the salivation hitting the ground.
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