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AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 1:16:52 PM

I see the libs on here make that claim all the time...hmm....
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:59:36 AM

So RNorm...were they really stomping on the Constitution or taking measures to protect us? Do not let your blinders and Bush hate get in the way of the truth. They were not just randomly listening to telephone conversations and checking computers because they were afraid RNorm was going to order a pepperoni pizza...or cheating on his wife...or even planning on robbing a bank. They were monitoring phone calls that went to known countries that bankrolled terrorists and the so-called fund raising organizations that were front for terrorists.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:54:54 AM

"Where is the illegal spying? "


It was made retroactively legal. C'mon man, I thought you kept up with these such things.
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AFSNCO
Champion Author Montgomery

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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:45:12 AM

"I like the candy from the float analogy."

Yep...and the libs are going to keep following that float until the money....um candy runs out.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:44:58 AM

Mudtoe posted: <<Looks like it didn't take long for the democrat party to try to cash in on the bombings. Debbie Wasserman Shultz has setup a web page where you can "thank" the first responders in Boston via the democrat party by going to a web page and giving them your email address and zip code, along with the thank you message. Here is the page that comes up if you click the "submission terms" on the main page, which pretty much describes what this is really all about:>>

Here is the text of that page:
"I have submitted certain comments, statements, stories, photographs, videotape, audio tape and/or other recordings or media (the "Submissions") to the Democratic National Committee (the "DNC"). I grant the DNC a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, sublicensable, royalty free license to publish, reproduce, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display, edit, modify, create derivative works of and otherwise use the Submissions in any manner or media and for any purpose whatsoever at the sole discretion of the DNC, including without limitation any political, advertising or commercial use of any kind. I further give my permission to use my name, likeness, voice, and biographical information in connection with such Submissions and release the DNC and anyone acting under its authorization from any claims that any use of the Submissions as authorized herein violates any of my rights, including any rights of publicity or privacy. I understand and that all rights granted herein are fully sublicensable and assignable.

"I represent and warrant that I have all rights necessary to grant the foregoing rights and permission and that no infringement or violation of any third party rights, including copyright, right of publicity, or right of privacy, will result from the use of the Submissions. I further represent and warrant that in creating the Submissions, I was working on my own time, and not for any employee or third party, and that I did not use any equipment or materials owned by any corporation or other third party. With respect to creating the Submissions, I acknowledge that I was volunteering my time to the DNC and that any disposable materials used in the creation of the Submissions may constitute an in-kind donation to the DNC. I agree to defend, indemnify and hold the DNC, and any candidates or other persons affiliated therewith, harmless from and against any liabilities, losses, claims, demands, costs and expenses (including reasonable attorneys' fees) arising out of or in connection with the use of the Submissions or of my name, likeness, voice, or persona, or from the breach or alleged breach of any of the foregoing representations or warranties.

"I understand that I will not be entitled to any compensation for the rights and release granted herein or for any use of the Submissions and that the DNC shall have no obligation to make any use of the Submissions. I further understand and agree that the DNC will act in reliance on this agreement and that therefore it will be irrevocable.

So, now that we can all read that text together, are you asserting, mudtoe, that the page is collecting money? Or are they just trying to cover their own hide if they republish anything posted through their site? What is your issue with this release?
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:44:21 AM

"C'mon man, if Illegal spying and erosion of the Bill of rights is not enough for you...then I don't know what is...unless you only see the constitution under attack when liberals do things you don't like?"

Where is the illegal spying? You want to talk about erosion of rights and stomping on the Constitution...look at the gun legislation being proposed by the left. Look at the rights being stomped on in Mass. where they want to allow "gender confused" individuals the right to use whatever facilities they want...regardless of the rights of others. You cannot sit here and point fingers at one side and say they are stomping on the Constitution when the left is doing exactly the same thing. How about ObamaCare and the rest of us being forced to pay for other's bad decisions...isn't that what welfare is also?
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:40:06 AM

"And according to the percentage of votes the Dems get Biden is apparently believed in the black community."

Faulty logic, there.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 9:12:02 AM

I like the candy from the float analogy.

Very astute
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 1:12:22 AM


RNorm, "Um, I already have a good job and a great smartphone, so that wouldn't be my reason voting for a democrat"

Perhaps, but according to Biden the GOP would put you and your family back in chains and force you to work on their plantations.

And according to the percentage of votes the Dems get Biden is apparently believed in the black community.


[Edited by: Panama19 at 4/24/2013 1:14:03 AM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 12:55:16 AM

"Where are the trampling the Constitution? "


C'mon man, if Illegal spying and erosion of the Bill of rights is not enough for you...then I don't know what is...unless you only see the constitution under attack when liberals do things you don't like?
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 12:33:55 AM

Poor Old Grampa had a massive stroke,
and the family rushed him to the ER.
After a while, the ER doctor finally appeared in the waiting room,
wearing a long, sad, face.
The doctor somberly reported,
“I’m afraid Grampa is brain-dead . . . but his heart is still beating.”
“Oh dear,” cried his wife,
“We’ve never had a liberal in the family before!”
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 5:46:22 PM

"even if it means trampling the constitution...and they're going to keep marriage safe...Yeah!"

Where are the trampling the Constitution?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 4:17:04 PM

"but during the last race for president, the democrats took it to a new level, and they did a exellant job of bribing lower income people, and immigrants, into voting for them."



So what level is this on:

"if you don't vote for us the terrorists will attack us"...

Now who do you think ran on that??
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 4:11:38 PM

They are all guilty of doing it, but during the last race for president, the democrats took it to a new level, and they did a exellant job of bribing lower income people, and immigrants, into voting for them.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 4:10:00 PM

"RNorm, I agree but you see a heck of a lot of threads started by the libs on here aimed directly at voter stuff...a lot more than from the right side."


That may be true, but IN the threads is where you see the conservatives saying that only democrats have no morals and are driven to win at all costs...I just saw that repeatedly in another thread just yesterday.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 4:08:54 PM

"Democrats may already have every future election in the bag. Who would vote against a free phone and free healthcare?"


Um, I already have a good job and a great smartphone, so that wouldn't be my reason voting for a democrat.

But since I'm so fearful, I might be inclined to vote republican because they're going to do everything humanly possible to keep me safe, even if it means trampling the constitution...and they're going to keep marriage safe...Yeah!
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AFSNCO
Champion Author Montgomery

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 4:08:33 PM

RNorm, I agree but you see a heck of a lot of threads started by the libs on here aimed directly at voter stuff...a lot more than from the right side.
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 4:01:09 PM

Both are guilty for sure, however Democrats have a significant advantage.

When you throw candy from the parade float, everybody loves you. It's not difficult, just bribe and addict the public.

Buy votes through free phones
Buy votes through free healthcare
Buy votes though immigration

Democrats may already have every future election in the bag. Who would vote against a free phone and free healthcare?

The key is the 50% of eligible voters who stayed home last November. When most Americans see how Obamacare slams them in 2014, there will be a backlash tidal wave Democrats will not overcome.
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nraacct
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 3:56:25 PM

The only difference is that the Democratic party has had better results overall.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 2:52:38 PM

I choose "E", All of the above
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djvang
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 2:11:07 PM

No, no, no, no, no! Don't you know that all wrongdoing and misbehavior is done exclusively by the other side? At least that seems to be the view of 98% of the posters out here.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 1:39:26 PM

Looks like it didn't take long for the democrat party to try to cash in on the bombings. Debbie Wasserman Shultz has setup a web page where you can "thank" the first responders in Boston via the democrat party by going to a web page and giving them your email address and zip code, along with the thank you message. Here is the page that comes up if you click the "submission terms" on the main page, which pretty much describes what this is really all about:

Submission Terms


mudtoe
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 1:20:14 PM

They BOTH are...

(and I see conservatives make the claim that only liberals are quite often too)

[Edited by: RNorm at 4/23/2013 1:21:45 PM EST]
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