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Panama19

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2013 3:27:24 PM


Trial begins for officials accused in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud

"Former longtime St. Joseph County Democratic Party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr. faces multiple felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe is charged with nine felony forgery counts and one felony count of falsely making a petition of nomination. The proceedings began Monday in South Bend.

Morgan is accused of being the mastermind behind the plot, by allegedly ordering Democratic officials and workers to fake the names and signatures that Obama and Clinton needed to qualify for the presidential race. Blythe, then a Board of Elections employee and Democratic Party volunteer, has been accused of carrying out those orders by forging signatures on Obama's petitions.

Two former Board of Elections officials have already pleaded guilty to charges related to the scheme and could testify against Morgan and Blythe"


[Edited by: Panama19 at 4/22/2013 3:29:08 PM EST]
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BlackGumTree
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 9:04:59 PM

plastic - " Why are they only going after the voter fraud in the elections where the republican lost?"

Re-read the article. They are going after both Republicans and Democrats that were involved in voter fraud regardless of the outcome, not just elections where Republicans lost.

The candidate does not personally collect all the signatures on a petition himself; he has help from campaign workers. It is some of these workers who fraudulently signed other people's names to the petitions without that person's consent.

Although it is harder to get registered voters to sign the petition than to add their name to the petition without their consent, it is actually not that hard to get people to sign their own name themselves. But the candidate can not be that unaware of how names arrive on the petition.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2013 3:58:44 PM


plastic, "Why are they only going after the voter fraud in the elections where the republican lost?"

From the article:

"The alleged scheme was hatched in January of 2008, according to affidavits from investigators who cite former Board of Registration worker Lucas Burkett, who told them he was in on the plan at first, but then became uneasy and quit. He waited three years before telling authorities about it, but if revelations about any forgeries were raised during the election, the petitions could have been challenged during the contest

The allegations were first uncovered by Indiana native and Yale University senior Ryan Nees, who wrote about the revelations for the political newsletter, Howey Politics Indiana.

'What's worrisome about this scheme is that it wasn't a single bad actor going rogue. Rather, four people were charged as co-conspirators, and two of the four have already pleaded guilty,' Nees told Fox News.

Nees believes that had the petitions been challenged during the presidential election, 'it's unlikely either candidate would have qualified for the ballot.'

He said the fraud was clearly evident, 'because page after page of signatures are all in the same handwriting'. He noted that no one raised any red flags 'because election workers in charge of verifying their validity were the same people faking the signatures'."

Had this come up before the election both Obama and Hillary would have been thrown off the ballot in the state.

Honest officials go after fraud wherever it is found. Unfortunately, in the case of Obama and Clinton, those responsible for detecting the fraud were the very ones committing it, and one of the insiders didn't report the incident until three years later.

This case has been working its way through the system since it was reported and there are already two convictions with two more officials charged.

It is difficult to tell if it will stop there.

The Republicans noted were from the 2012 race, and the evidence was discovered prior to the election.

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plastic
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2013 3:35:29 PM

Ok, I only skimmed through the article but I find something very troubling with the story. Why are they only going after the voter fraud in the elections where the republican lost? There was noted widespread voter fraud in an attempt to elect Sen. Kerry. True he didn't win. So does that mean that those fraudsters go unnoticed? Fraud is fraud. I saw a few articles where a republican had committed the fraud and was quickly thrown to the wolves.

This doesn't make sense. It's not like you can take the presidency away from Clinton or Obama. Yeah, they did take it away from Nixon but his arrogant attitude helped to do him in.

Getting back to the story, I'm glad that vote fraudsters will be punished. What a despicable crime against our civic life.



[Edited by: plastic at 4/22/2013 3:37:47 PM EST]
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