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SUVFan

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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 12:05:57 PM

After bombs exploded near the finish line of yesterday's Boston Marathon, killing three so far and injuring 140, I have to ask -- shamelessly sarcastically -- why we have not seen knee jerk legislation requiring registration of backpacks, coolers, and other portable containers that are capable of hiding a bomb until it's master causes it to detonate? I mean, those bombs didn't walk themselves to the finish line and must have been hidden inside something before detonation.

And while we're at it, a background check couldn't hurt, could it? How could anyone desiring to use these things lawfully mind? And while they're at it, why not require all manufacturers of portable containers to stamp or somehow imbed in the material of the container identifying numbers that could be used to trace the containers back to their purchaser?

Firearms already bear serial numbers and imprint markings on bullets. Like backpacks, firearms don't load themselves. Firearms must be aimed and fired by a person. So, too, for a backpack to be used nefariously, someone must prepare and load the explosives into the container, transport it to a tactical location, and set the thing off unless that person installed a timer. And like virtually all firearms, nearly all backpacks and portable containers will be used as intended without harming anyone.

If it would make it just a little more difficult for some deranged person to pull it off, wouldn't the intrusion and extra costs be worth it? Where's the outrage?



[Edited by: SUVFan at 4/16/2013 12:11:42 PM EST]
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 9:41:58 AM

The liberals need to ban murder then it won't happen!
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 11:13:01 AM

He should have used the, "But it wasn't in a backpack defense."

No word on backpacks, but it appears the FBI has pressure cookers under surveillance:

You need to be more careful moving around with such things, Sir.

[Edited by: SUVFan at 5/13/2013 11:15:20 AM EST]
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 10, 2013 8:04:13 PM

Why don't they just ban bombs then stuff like that won't happen
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2013 8:51:33 AM

Actually, pressure cookers have been pulled off the shelves in Massachusetts.

/sarc on
Hmmmm, I have one for canning green beans and other low acid foods. Do you think there will be a police buyback program? I could use some cash toward a new one...
/sarc off
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2013 5:53:39 AM

Registering crackpots wouldn't be a bad idea.
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2013 5:05:05 AM

Or regulationg crockpots? Background checks? why does any body need a crockpot larger than size x????? Licence to carry? registering crockpots in order to make easy for the government to sieze them after another crisis????
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:56:10 PM

Why is There No Report of a Bill Regulating Backpacks??

--because granola-eating, Birkenstock-wearing, tree-hugging fool liberals use backpacks every single day. What, the hippies are going to legislate themselves out of one of their fashions? That would be like outlawing Birkenstocks or granola!
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 5:16:57 PM

How far away can registration and licensing be for pressure cookers?

A pressure cooker was left unattended outside a grocery store. 10 days ago nobody would have noticed.
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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 2:52:56 PM

It's intentional. They use the expression "assault weapon" because they know most people will misinterpret that as being the same as an automatic or machine gun. They do NOT want you to know the truth - you might not support their position.

Same with internet sales. If you buy from a legitimate dealer (not Craigslist), they will NOT ship to your home. They will ship to an authorized FFL in your town who WILL run the Brady check before handing over the weapon. If you don't buy from a legitimate dealer, you're probably going to get ripped off - and deserve it.

I'm still looking for it, but supposedly the RCMP ("Mounties") did an exhaustive study of shootings in Canada and could not find a single instance where the 15-round magazine would have made a difference.


[Edited by: Cirdan at 4/21/2013 2:54:39 PM EST]
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 10:12:35 AM

>no one needs some of the automatic weapons<

Automatic weapons (firearms that continue to fire as long as the trigger is continuously depressed until it's supply of ammo is exhausted) have been banned from ordinary citizen ownership and use for a long time. Our uninformed President perpetuates the confusion by continuing to call for action on those weapons.

Semi automatic weapons remain available. All that means is that a weapon will fire one shot per trigger pull. Revolvers are a form of semi auto weapons. The AR15 looks like an automatic weapon, but the ones available to the public are semiauto.

There's been a ton of focus on magazine size, which is also a huge waste of time. If a relatively small 8,10, 12, 15 round mag is available, all a shooter needs to do is buy more of them to get the same number of rounds. Assuming nominal coordination, magazines can be changed in seconds. With practice, it can be done in a single second or less. Focus on mag size is about as silly as the movement in NYC to ban 32 oz drinks, ignoring the ability to purchase two 16 oz'ers or two 20 oz sizes and ending up with more, not less.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 9:22:30 AM

Hiram, Reagan did the same in California while governor. He closed down most of the state mental facilities, flooding the streets with homeless people in dire need of help.
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WES03
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 8:43:46 AM

Or high capacity pressure cookers?
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Cirdan
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 1:59:28 AM

More people are killed by cars than guns. Maybe we should ban those ;-)
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Hiram 615
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 11:28:37 PM



"How many more nutcases have to cause even more damage before we'll do something about them?"

The Reagan administration cut funding for mental health treatment and research throughout the 1980s and it has never recovered.
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jacka123
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 10:26:40 PM

I say people are right, get rid of those guns, and while your at it, get rid of those nasty pressure cookers and backpacks. Also, get rid of those nails and ball bearings. And the next thing, someone is probably going to be killed by a knife, get rid of the knives too.

I guess by now, you are saying, "This guy is nuts". Maybe so, but it just goes to show that guns are no more of a device to kill than are bombs made from devices (pressure cookers) that were meant only to cook with, and build things with (nails), and to be used in many operable wheels and such (ball bearings).

It's not these tangible items that kill people, people kill people. But, I do agree that no one needs some of the automatic weapons, that some people probably have, which could possibly include machine guns or similar type weapons. Just remember one thing though, you can steal a bus pretty easily and run it into a crowd of people, anywhere that there is a crowd of people, and probably easily kill a few hundred. (Crazy) people kill people.

What's the answer? I wish we knew.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 9:05:24 PM

Zim, nobody's yucking it up over this tragedy. Everyone deals with grief differently, though I suppose some are more inclined to attempt to dictate a proper manner for expressing grief than others.

The point of this thread is the fact that months have been wasted by the governing party in pursuit of a political objective that has no possibility of making a difference. While nutcases may use firearms more frequently, the nutcases that use bombs cause greater damage.

This time, the loss of life was limited, though I suspect that's more of a statement about the competence of the actor than the choice of weapon. The common thread is nutcases. And when it's not pure nutcases, it's terrorists that claim to have taken their action in the name of a certain religion.

There has been an outcry on the right to do something about the nutcases, but the left seems to view that group as some kind of protected class. If Lanza had gone to Sandy Hook with a couple of those pressure cookers, I'm guessing the numbers there would have been much higher. Fortunately, he didn't wait for that model.

How many more nutcases have to cause even more damage before we'll do something about them?

[Edited by: SUVFan at 4/17/2013 9:11:44 PM EST]
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 7:50:17 PM

Backpacks, coolers and other portable containers were not designed to kill as guns are.
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 5:54:24 PM

afsnco, did you do a back round check to buy the cooker? Does it have a magazine on it that only holds 10 carrots?
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 5:01:01 PM

"But go ahead and yuck it up, while the victims recover from their terrible injuries and the families bury their dead."

Zim, nicely said!

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greentre
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 4:37:10 PM

My prayers go out to the families who were injured by this attack. Only a true coward strikes at the innocent.

Now to the other stuff.
"Maybe when backpack violence reaches the level of gun violence there may be some merit to this idea"

Maybe when 'assault weapon' violence reaches the level of pool drownings there may be some merit to assault weapons control.

From 2005-2009, there were an average of 3,533 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States

"Nothing we're going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to a thousand a year from, from what it is now."

Joe Biden
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 4:20:55 PM

Maybe "Common sense" Legislation is now understood by all Americans...

Liberals are wasting everyone's time trying to outlaw things 99.9% of citizens use responsibly and legally.

Guns or frying pans dont kill people, evil people do! More importantly, Washington or Diane Feinstein can't protect you with a delusional 1500 page law.

I'm appalled watching Liberals running to microphones trying to take some credit for how Boston was handled (or give Obama some)

Fellow Americans (Bostonians) deserve all the credit -- no elected official deserves mention -- especially Obama since he was the one who cut the budget years ago for domestic bombing prevention (slashed by half).

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michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 11:16:57 AM

Already in any major transportation hub any abandoned backpack seen on security cameras is investigated and sometimes detonated, there have been a lot of very sorry PB&J sandwiches since 9-11.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 11:11:50 AM

"Deafening silence from our friends on the left, don't you think?"

Why should anybody reply to such a clearly "shamelessly sarcastically" slippery slope topic. But go ahead and yuck it up, while the victims recover from their terrible injuries and the families bury their dead.

Maybe when backpack violence reaches the level of gun violence there may be some merit to this idea, but until then it's silly.

However, try going to a major sporting event with a backpack and it will now be searched, no doubt, along with purses, coats, etc. The fact that a marathon crowd control is nearly impossible, made this an easy target for a mad bomber.
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 11:03:43 AM

Deafening silence from our friends on the left, don't you think?


mudtoe
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 10:58:38 AM

I went to Walmart last night and bought up all the pressure cookers I could find before the lefties try to ban them. I am going to Lowe's and Home Depot tonight to buy all their nails.
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 9:28:06 AM

Absolutely right, SVF! Using the "logic" of the gun-control crowd, we absolutely need to have background checks when someone wants to buy a backpack. Maybe we should limit the size of backpacks, similar to the proposed magazine-size limitations.

GTH
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 8:06:15 AM

With these details of how the bombs were made and hidden emerging yesterday, surely there will be movement toward regulating them today.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:40:50 PM

Bacon - too late them left coast states is filled with cracked pots.

Doesn't some guy named Biden live there?
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:20:14 PM

Will MASS. ban crock pots now???
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:14:11 PM

We will also have to regulate and have background checks for nails and ball bearings since it has been reported that these things were used in the bombs.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:02:58 PM

Yup SUVfan, we need to have background checks for backpacks and crockpots, just like we now "need" them for all guns!
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