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mexicomaria

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:47:47 PM

At long last...a man that does not care to be politically correct, he cares to be frank. Dr Ben Carson speaks at Prayer Brkft
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mweyant
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Neurosurgeon, conservative activist Dr. Ben Carson talks health care, political correctness before Birmingham speech

11-7-13

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"Thursday, Carson explained his solution to the nation's rising health care costs: A health savings account for every American beginning at birth, with the government contributing $2,000 a year. One-third of that would be set aside for catastrophic health care, and the rest would be for routine medical needs. Carson said that would be more than enough for most people's routine medical needs, and they would slowly build up a significant amount of money for health care costs.

"It's these kinds of things that you have to do because it removes government rather than making it more important in our lives," he said. "It also brings the relationship back to the physician and the patient."

Having complete control over the health care spending -- instead of going through an insurance company -- would bring costs down because doctors would have to make their prices far more apparent and would need to compete for patients, Carson said.

"It brings the whole medical industry into the free market economy," he said. "That's where you begin to see real efficiency."

Carson also discussed his support for a flat tax, or fair tax, in which one tax rate is levied on everyone, regardless of income. The fact that it's proportional makes it fair, he said, because the government isn't deciding who should and who shouldn't pay taxes; everyone would pay taxes. He compared it to tithes in the Bible. When the government picks who should pay more, it's difficult for people to agree, he said.

"Proportionality is something that's very easy to agree on, I think that's why God did it that way. He's a pretty smart guy," Carson said."


[Edited by: mweyant at 11/9/2013 6:01:35 AM EST]
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ministorage
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Eventually, the IRS conducted a full audit against Carson and found no wrongdoing...."

[Edited by: ministorage at 10/7/2013 5:06:51 PM EST]
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2013 4:42:08 PM

"Hey, let's audit that guy!" ~ Obama's IRS

[Hee, hee, THAT should keep him busy.]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2013 10:22:05 AM

Johnnyg1200, I'm sure it was just one of those remarkable concurrence of events or circumstances without .... oh wait, there is an apparent connection.

What were they thinking...

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2013 7:25:13 PM

Surprise surprise surprise. Ben Carson audited by IRS. After his comments at the national prayer breakfast Ben Carson is audited by the IRS.

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Carson says he had never had a problem with the tax-collecting agency until he spoke out against the president.

Carson says the Internal Revenue Service started looking into his real estate holdings following his comments against the White House at the National Prayer Breakfast in February. Eventually, the IRS conducted a full audit against Carson and found no wrongdoing, he said.

Dr. Ben Carson says IRS targeted him for his anti-Obama comments
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2013 3:40:38 AM

CARSON: Outgrowing Alinsky-style name-calling

10-2-13

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This article contains suggestions for conducting one's self in a far classier manner than Saul Alinsky. Wait . . . isn't Alinsky Obama's hero?

"Unfortunately, this type of infantile adolescent behavior is still quite prevalent in our current political environment. Instead of “capping” their opponents, many in the political class engage in hyperbolic demagoguery in an attempt to demonize those who disagree with them. This is not surprising, because in his book “Rules For Radicals,” Saul Alinsky, the original radical community organizer and societal change agent, says you should never have a rational discussion with your opponent. Doing so would humanize him, and your goal is to demonize him. With this tactic, he states that you can incur your opponent’s wrath, causing him to respond angrily, and in many cases, irrationally, which then provides an opportunity to use that irrational response against him.

This is an especially useful tactic when you have the media on your side. The adolescent “capping” episodes seldom occurred between just two individuals, but were purposely put on glorious display in the company of an appreciative audience. Similarly, divisive politicians seem energized by microphones and cameras, and eagerly accuse their opponents of ridiculous things, such as wanting elderly people to die, children to starve or our nation to fail. In their heart of hearts, they know that their opponents want no such things, but their desire to score political points with an audience that wishes to believe negative things about others overwhelms the rule of integrity."

Carson suggests we do the following for one week:

"Speak to people you normally walk by and ignore.

• Let someone else go first.

• Help someone who is struggling.

• Comfort someone who is distressed.

• Give someone a couple of bucks who came up short at the checkout counter.

• If you can afford it, give a hardworking individual in the service sector a generous tip.

• Ignore those who only criticize and attack, and instead, concentrate on solving problems."
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2013 10:12:56 AM

Dr. Carson was on Rick and Bubba yesterday morning. What a very intelligent man. He made it pretty clear he is not exploring a presidential run but he wants to keep supporting what he believes in....

One of his main points was that he is a self-made man and that others that sit around whining and crying that they have nothing in life and have no opportunity are lying. He had nothing, had a mom that was a single parent, and he took advantage of every opportunity that came his way.

He said the reason the left does not like him is because he does not represent himself as a victim but as a success story. So instead of putting him up as a shining beacon of hope and example of what you can do they would rather call him names. He said it is obvious that they do it to other prominent blacks that have rose from the ashes and have conservative values as well and it is a sad example the left portrays of them.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2013 3:24:15 AM

Ben S. Carson: A moment that defines courage

9-26-13

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"Lawmakers cannot be afraid that they will be blamed for a government shutdown if they defund Obamacare. They have the ability to separate the health care law from the rest of the federal budget and fund one without funding the other. In doing so, they need to make it abundantly clear that they are willing to fund the government and its essential functions, but they feel that Obamacare is detrimental to the future economic health of America.

If the Democrat-controlled Senate reattaches the law, or if the executive branch makes the decision to fund Obamacare at the expense of other vital national functions, the electorate must take notice and act decisively in 2014. Many say that those who want to restore constitutional restraints are fighting a useless battle, but we must remember that freedom is reserved only for those willing to fight for it."
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2013 9:18:05 PM

Dr. Ben Carson Op-Ed, Wednesday September 25, 2013
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2013 9:17:30 PM

In my prior post I copied Davewalk but erroneously attributed it to Jay. No excuse, but Los Angeles and the practically identical Dodgers avatar must've pwayed twicks wif my bwain. Mea Culpa.

[Edited by: ministorage at 9/25/2013 9:18:56 PM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2013 1:20:34 PM

jayrad1957: "I have no problem at all with Christianity, but I think that a belief in young-earth creationism displays a level of scientific illiteracy that is unacceptable in a presidential candidate."

r4: "That is an interesting litmus test...."

I'll say. Liberals have voted for three presidential candidates since 2000, all of which have displayed abhorrently low levels of scientific literacy and understanding.

Unacceptably-low scientific understanding is the bedrock, the glue that keeps the left and their anti-scientific religious causes and their lies alive.

Whether or not Dr. Carson is a Christian, I would vote for the brain surgeon--because of his understanding of the role of government alone--over any Democratic candidate, any day of the week. After 2008, the Democrats lost a quarter-century loyal voter, permanently.

IMHO
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2013 9:50:41 AM

One of the things I like about him is that he is a complete success story. He could have been a hoodlum but instead his mother was a parent (single parent thank you) and was a real parent and challenged her kids to be more than that...and he responded and became extremely successful.

No wonder the left hates him!
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2013 9:47:18 AM

"I have no problem at all with Christianity, but I think that a belief in young-earth creationism displays a level of scientific illiteracy that is unacceptable in a presidential candidate."

I understand that to a point but that is where religion and science clash. Creationism versus evolution will always be up for debate. There are different schools of thought on it but I do not see how that will affect his decision making as a president.

Just like never wanting to vote Catholic because he will be controlled by a Pope in another country. Or not wanting to vote for a Mormon because he is not a true Christian (yes, that discussion was on these boards right here).

[Edited by: AFSNCO at 9/20/2013 9:48:10 AM EST]
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 1:11:16 PM

That is an interesting litmus test, are there others that you have?
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 11:49:05 AM

I have no problem at all with Christianity, but I think that a belief in young-earth creationism displays a level of scientific illiteracy that is unacceptable in a presidential candidate.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2013 10:23:53 AM

"Whether or not Dr. Carson is a "schlor", he is also a young earth creationist. I think that's an automatic disqualifier."What does that have to do with his qualifications? I guess the left that attacks Christians so often found an ally in attacking Romney because he wasn't a "true Christian." It was pretty interesting to see them use that considering so many liberal lefties abhor Christianity as it is...
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 1:22:04 PM

Whether or not Dr. Carson is a "schlor", he is also a young earth creationist. I think that's an automatic disqualifier.
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daylily2009
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 12:30:59 PM

Mr. Carson is a Schlor
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2013 11:23:20 AM

Good point, I75. He is soft-spoken.
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2013 5:46:34 PM

Go BEN, go!
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2013 12:11:48 PM

As I stated...he will be a real candidate as soon as the left start bashing him. He will be labeled an Uncle Tom and torn down. Only then will you know that he is a true candidate.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2013 11:55:10 AM

I hear Ben Carson on the radio being interviewed often. He is always polite, well spoken, and very knowledgeable.

He might not have that verve and fire that it takes to be a Presidential candidate, though. Guys with the best ideas just don't make it to the top of the shark tank that is U.S. presidential politics.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2013 11:47:35 AM

Hmm...pretty interesting stuff on this guy.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2013 2:07:44 PM

Starting my research on this guy.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2013 10:48:24 PM

We will know if he is for real if the libs go after him.
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2013 9:27:50 PM

Speaking out at an event like this defitely gives more exposure for his views...
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 10:02:34 AM

I'd like to learn more about him but he's intriguing.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 12:25:10 AM

Dr. Ben Carson Joins Cruz, DeMint, Paul at Values Voter Summit 2013

9-8-13

"Dr. Carson’s keynote address at the Values Voter Summit is currently slated for Friday morning, October 11."
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2013 1:45:45 PM

Be Nice to see a candidate that might provide an alternative view... I would like to see him more involved, for nothing more to add some different perspectives to the race...
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2013 10:02:43 AM

Not sure about him as a candidate for office. He certainly has some views that would stir the political pot.

The coronation for Hillary will probably go quite smoothly. A black conservative male vs a white liberal female would be quite fun to watch the media twist and turn.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 9:09:10 AM

And maybe Thomas Sowell for VP and Walter Williams as campaign manager. That would be so much fun to watch.

"During the first Reagan administration, I participated in a number of press conferences on either a book or article I’d written or as a panelist in a discussion of White House public policy. On occasion, when the question-and-answer session began, I’d tell the press, “You can treat me like a white person. Ask hard, penetrating questions.” The remark often brought uncomfortable laughter, but I was dead serious. If there is one general characteristic of white liberals, it’s their condescending and demeaning attitude toward blacks." Walter Williams

Is there a fantasy league for politics? That would be my fantasy ticket.
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2013 12:14:20 PM

I liked what Dr. Carson had to say, for certain. However, does that necessarily make him a good person to run? And if he did, can he get the support to win?
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2013 3:37:07 AM

National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee

I believe that he is a uniter, and not a divider.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 11:21:02 AM

Must scare folks who may run for President as he has no long list of scandals in his history.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 6:44:02 AM

Some of the students in the county where I teach have been taken to see him on field trips when he was at Johns Hopkins. He was extremely popular with them. He is a role model for young and old alike, IMHO.
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 6:39:25 AM

The man is very intelligent. Should be a role model for all kids!
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 7:57:27 AM

Six alinsky rules that obama follows

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(1). Politics is all about power relations, but to advance one’s power, one must couch one’s positions in the language of morality.

Community organizers are “political realists” who “see the world as it is: an arena of power politics moved primarily by perceived immediate self-interests, where morality is rhetorical rationale for expedient action and self-interest” (12).

(2). There is only three kinds of people in the world: rich and powerful oppressors, the poor and disenfranchised oppressed, and the middle-class whose apathy perpetuates the status quo.

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click the link to read the rest of the article
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 6:21:50 AM

Dr. Ben Carson: 'We're All in the Same Boat' in US

7-29-13

"Carson said the effort to divide people on race is part of a large, secular political movement.

"This is part of Saul Alinsky's whole plan for changing a society," he said. Alinsky, author of the book "Rules for Radicals," is considered the founder of the community organizer movement."
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 8:49:14 PM

Thanks I75, I've been reading a few of the threads on the US Politics for a while, but once a person takes a stand on an issue, even if there is evidence to prove your point of view wrong, it becomes difficult to admit it especially if others on here have come after you for your thoughts. Then it becomes a "we against them" issue and all civil discussion is lost and the flame wars begin. It looks like to many "adults" on here have way to much time on their hands and have now become like many mayors, politicians and that always leads to heated debates instead of getting anything positive discussed and trying to work together to come up with solutions. It just ends up with name calling.

I grew up in too much hatred. Working together to solve problems is much better, but it seems people are born with predetermined genetics to associate with people who are like themselves, and to distrust those wo are not like us.

People who get abused need our protection, and the abusers need to be held accountable for their actions. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to apply with everyone on here.

And thanks again for the welcome.

I like much of what I hear from Dr. Carson.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 1:02:56 PM

Welcome new member hero4hire! You are already a very astute observer of what goes on here in US Politics. Lots of flaming. Many members have "flamed out" and had their GB memberships deleted because they couldn't keep it civil, within bounds. You'll do fine.

About Dr. Carson: an interview:
Ben Carson sees Obama legacy riddled with scandals and ‘things that don’t seem to be the truth’

Links to Parts 1 and 2 are in the link here.

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 7/19/2013 1:03:32 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 9:48:47 AM

I haven't posted in threads before, because it looks like it's too easy to get caught up in flame wars, but I'll admit I voted for Barack Obama and I'm now wondering if I missed something about his platform and I guess that I maybe misunderstood his promises.

I would vote for Dr. Ben Carson, from what I've been hearing and reading about him. I wished he would have run against Barack Obama, because I now know that I would have changed my vote for Dr. Carson.

As my grandma used to say - if wishes were fishes, we'd all have a fry, and Never let the seeds keep ya from the watermelon.
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 8:59:54 AM

Ben Carson Rising

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7-16-13

"From a start as a write-in candidate, Dr. Carson has steadily risen to now hold 9% of the vote and fourth place"
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 8:17:13 AM

Mr. Carson is very intelligent.
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 9:44:04 PM

I love him & his values. I think he would be a great president unlike the person we have in office right now.
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 9:34:57 PM

I would vote for the man in a heartbeat. He comes across as a very honest person.
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 8:18:23 PM

Ben Carson: Obama’s ‘redistribution ideology’ harms race relations

7-14-13

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller, Ben Carson criticized President Obama for his stance on redistribution of wealth, arguing that it has had serious implications for race relations in America.“I don’t think he has been particularly helpful, particularly with respect to his redistribution ideology,” Carson said. “Because he’s made a lot of people think that that’s all that the blacks want — they want to get our money and to get our wealth, and they think that we owe them this and that, and of course there are a lot of people of all races who do not believe that.”

Carson argued that his time as a neurosurgeon has given him a unique view of race and humanity. “When I take some one to the operating room and I cut the scalp, and peel it down, and take off the bone flap, and open the dura, I’m actually operating on the thing that makes that person who they are. … Their skin doesn’t make them who they are. The color has nothing to do with who they are. But you know, people who tend to be superficial. You know, superficial things mean a lot. People who tend to be deep are able to see through that and evaluate a person for who they are, and that’s what Martin Luther King meant when he said judge a person by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.”

[Edited by: mweyant at 7/14/2013 8:21:39 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 5:25:24 AM

I'll vote for this man!
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 12:08:40 AM

Dr. Ben Carson joins The Washington Times as weekly columnist

7-9-13

"Dr. Ben Carson, the world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon whose entrance into America’s political debate has energized conservatives, on Wednesday joined The Washington Times as a weekly opinion columnist.

A straightforward speaker known for his optimism and candor, the pediatric neurosurgeon’s early forays into politics and media attracted so much attention that news organizations and fans alike have begun discussing a possible run for political office one day.

Asked by ABC News if he’d consider a White House run, the doctor simply replied, “That’s not my intention, but I always say, I’ll leave that to God.”

For many Americans, Dr. Carson has articulated the tough-minded hope of many conservatives intent on reaffirming the value of the Republican Party, while addressing the nation’s most serious fiscal and social challenges.

With his wife Candy, Dr. Carson also established the Carson Scholars Fund to ease “the education crisis in the U.S.,” awarding more than $5.2 million in scholarships to young students.

Dr. Carson’s column will appear in The Washington Times on a weekly basis beginning Wednesday."
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 5:20:03 AM

He'd have my vote!
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 4:14:56 AM

Saunders: New conservative star Dr. Ben Carson to speak in Raleigh this week

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By Barry Saunders — bsaunders@newsobserver.com


Years ago, a man who worked as a soccer referee called to tell me that Raleigh’s Upper Room Christian Academy was one of the schools whose games he officiated.

At the time, the Upper Room Church of God In Christ’s polarizing pastor, Patrick Wooden, was embroiled in one controversy or another and was much in the news. That’s not what the soccer official wanted to talk about, though.

Never, the ref gushed, had he encountered children as well-behaved and mannerly as those from Upper Room. I don’t remember his exact quote, but the words “character” and “values” still stand out.

Dr. Benjamin Carson, the much-sought-after, world famous neurosurgeon who is retiring this week from medicine for a possible life in politics, said the same thing when asked why he was kicking off his post-medicine career as the featured speaker at a scholarship fundraiser for the church’s school Thursday.

“For one thing, they asked me,” Carson responded. “For another thing, it’s a place that is advocating values in a nation where we’re trying to get rid of values.” "

[Edited by: mweyant at 6/25/2013 4:16:31 AM EST]
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