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mexicomaria

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:47:47 PM

At long last...a man that does not care to be politically correct, he cares to be frank. Dr Ben Carson speaks at Prayer Brkft
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 7:03:07 PM

" not this man whose foundation, Carson Scholars, provides funds for many young people to attend college."



Yes Mweyant, I am impressed by Ben Carson as well...




"Six thousand two hundred scholarships and counting..."



[Edited by: reb4 at 10/25/2014 7:03:26 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 6:11:23 PM

"Oh, I don't think that he is going to take his ball and go home... He is a doer. Perhaps he will not run, or, perhaps he will run and lose, but I do not think he will retreat to a life of inactivity."

Sure, just retreat when times are tough and failure has higher odds...

Anybody that said what he said is not my candidate.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 9:38:40 PM

"So rather than using his skills and knowledge to help make a difference for the country, he, too, is going to take his ball and go home."

Oh, I don't think that he is going to take his ball and go home, not this man whose foundation, Carson Scholars, provides funds for many young people to attend college. He is a doer. Perhaps he will not run, or, perhaps he will run and lose, but I do not think he will retreat to a life of inactivity.Carson Scholars Fund

Ignoring the comment making generalizations about Republicans that are unfounded . . .
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 5:47:57 PM

The more I listen to him the more I like him.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 8:52:07 AM

"No contradiction. He simply doesn't want to work for Obama."

So rather than using his skills and knowledge to help make a difference for the country, he, too, is going to take his ball and go home?

Definitely a Republican...

SMH
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reb4
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 7:29:42 AM

There was NO WAY Ben Carson would have been offered the position. Obama wanted and chose a spin master.

[Edited by: reb4 at 10/24/2014 7:32:57 AM EST]
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 3:50:35 AM

No contradiction. He simply doesn't want to work for Obama.

Houston’s First Amendment abuse

"Perhaps a dose of maturity on all sides would put an end to the mindless name-calling and baseless accusations against those with whom we disagree and instead lead to civil discourse that can be constructive. After all, it is frequently easier to learn from those with whom we disagree than from those with whom we always agree. Also, conversation erases many misconceptions that drive hatred. That is the reason that famed community organizer Saul Alinsky, in his book “Rules for Radicals,” stated that you should never have a conversation with your adversaries, because that humanizes them, and your job is to demonize them. When your agenda is to fundamentally change a society, it can be a much easier task when you stifle conversation and debate."

Why is this quote from Carson's latest blog relevant to his Ebola comment?
Because Obama admires Alinsky. Carson does not admire Alinsky.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 8:31:44 AM

"It actually surprises me that he answered that way, as he has said he is ready and willing and eager to serve this nation."

Hey, we agree! Carson seems to be contradicting himself yet again - he would make a good politician?
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 8:34:53 AM

>>> “Because if I would, if I were going to serve in that position, I would have to serve under someone that I trusted.”<<<

Well, I guess then he wouldn't have accepted the position as Ebola Czar either!

It actually surprises me that he answered that way, as he has said he is ready and willing and eager to serve this nation.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 6:34:38 AM

Listen to Dr. Ben Carson’s Response When Asked If He Would Accept Surgeon General Nomination Under Obama

10-17-14

"When radio host Hugh Hewitt asked Dr. Ben Carson if he would accept the U.S. surgeon general nomination from President Barack Obama, the famous neurosurgeon was definitive in his response.

“No, no,” Carson replied immediately. “Because if I would, if I were going to serve in that position, I would have to serve under someone that I trusted.” '
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 3:17:02 AM

How Did the Ben Carson Super-PAC raise $10.6 Million?

10-16-14

"What's the secret? Small donations dominate the pro-Carson group's reports. About $9.5 million of the $10.6 million raised, or 90 percent, came from people whose donations aggregate to less than $200, according to Federal Election Commission filings. Those donations don't have to be itemized on FEC reports."

from a GasBuddy poster . . . "However, it seems the art of compromise has been lost on today's politicians. They are more intent on clinging to their dogma and any meaningful results be damned."

(my opinion) This is the reason that I like Carson. He keeps saying he knows that compromise is significant to the success of our nation. I only hope he means it.


[Edited by: mweyant at 10/17/2014 3:19:34 AM EST]
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rdamurphy
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 2:28:53 PM

'The level of cooperation ebbs and flows depending on many different issues but there are certain issues that bring them closer together, like war.''

WRONG!
patriot repubs DO NOT support obamas PC wars!

its time to get ridda PC weather its form demos or cons!
no more a george w (RINO) PC wars either!!!
hint libs he isnt president any more
LOLOL! give it up!

thats rite libs u read it here first
some cons got the guts not to stand with american presidents when THEIR WRONG
even if the president is fighting war
case in point

W BUSH - an he STILL isnt president!
B OBAMA

got no use for PC from any of em! gimme stormin normin any day! patton! ike! carpet BOMBING! UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!!!!!!!!!

dr ben is the subject an i do believe with his
military experience
n his business experience
and hes BLACK

HE DONT SUPPORT THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF at war and nor does I!!!!!

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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 9:49:36 AM

Maybe Obama's next fund raiser will be with him!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 9:31:11 AM

"As I pointed out yesterday and again last night, it is leftists who drive the schism in our nation today."

Yeah! Stupider Leftists...
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 9:29:00 AM

As I pointed out yesterday and again last night, it is leftists who drive the schism in our nation today.

Dear Ruler was at it again yesterday.

0bama slams billionaires at the home of a guy named Rich Richman

You just can't make it up. No one would believe you. This was much stupider than Ronmey's 47% remard in fall 2012. Waaaay stupider.
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 9:28:37 AM

"The point is there has always been a divide in our country based on party lines. The level of cooperation ebbs and flows depending on many different issues but there are certain issues that bring them closer together, like war."

However, it seems the art of compromise has been lost on today's politicians. They are more intent on clinging to their dogma and any meaningful results be damned.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 8:45:42 AM

"The point is there has always been a divide in our country based on party lines. The level of cooperation ebbs and flows depending on many different issues but there are certain issues that bring them closer together, like war."

Agreed.

"BTW, bad economic times seem to drive the two sides apart. It is because they both usually have different ideas on how to repair a bad economy and truly the only thing that will fix it is time."

I would have to say that many partisan politicians view such conditions as an opportunity to gain back control, rather than a simple difference in ideology - which is always present.
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 8:35:10 AM

Here is an interesting commentary thinking about the possibility of a Carson / Clinton presidential run in 2016




Read it at another (paper) site, but found this commentary...Since the left feel the need / desire to participate, wanted to give them something that they could read ... on the subject... instead of wandering in other areas...

[Edited by: reb4 at 10/9/2014 8:35:20 AM EST]
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 8:23:42 AM

BTW, bad economic times seem to drive the two sides apart. It is because they both usually have different ideas on how to repair a bad economy and truly the only thing that will fix it is time. Economies go up and down in waves and sooner or later they will fix themselves. What politicians do is try to treat the symptoms because there is no cure for the actual ailment.
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 8:20:52 AM

"AF, would you also, agree that the parties have changed many times since Andrew Jackson?"

The point is there has always been a divide in our country based on party lines. The level of cooperation ebbs and flows depending on many different issues but there are certain issues that bring them closer together, like war.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 8:16:02 AM

"CNN Suggests Racism Behind Death of Dallas Ebola Patient"

CNN is a laughable 'news outlet'. They aren't biased like Faux News, they are simply incompetent...

Big difference. ;)
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 12:44:32 AM

Earlier today I pointed out that it is leftists who have lead the massive political schism in the nation today.
Here is an example:
CNN Suggests Racism Behind Death of Dallas Ebola Patient
Not that he had an advanced case of a deadly disease.......

"Minutes after news broke of the death of Thomas Eric Duncan, CNN anchor Ashleigh Banfield suggested racism might have contributed to the Ebola patient's death."

Ain't that just hunky dory?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 11:20:52 PM

"If you are going to make a move to make them eat healthier the least they could do is find food children will eat."

Cake, cookies, pizza, ice cream... Not many kids 'want' to eat vegetables - that is why we as adults must tell them what to eat!

By not being responsible for what kids eat we are neglecting our responsibilities as adults, and too many times lazy parents would rather let a kid eat all of the junk food of their choosing rather than deal with a tantrum. If the kids don't like what the school has to offer, they are more than free to pack their own lunch. Nobody is forcing them to buy the school lunches outside of those who are on the assistance program due to household income limitations (and they should be grateful for anything they get), and if a parent is set on feeding their kids crap that is certainly their right - but the school doesn't have to. Just as Dr. Ben Carson if he thinks schools should serve high sodium, highly processed foods or if he thinks a healthier option is a more palatable option ;) .

"It has gotten so bad that a child cannot even have a soda in the lunch room...it is illegal and a school can be fined."

I 'never' had a soda at school during lunch. Ever. I managed to eek my way through those days of famine. Good Lord, I sound like a Tea Partier... <s>

But I digress. The point that was made is clear in A1's (and others) venomous posts here on GB about the First Lady and her initiative to help kids be healthier. As RNorm mentioned, I didn't see any such disrespectful and deeply hateful attacks on Laura Bush regardless if people agreed or not with the programs she was involved in.

By the way - hi Maria! Or should I say goodnight?

;)
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 8:44:31 PM

"...and who got audited by the IRS right after his Pray Brkft speech?"

I don't know, it couldn't have been Dr. Ben Carson, could it MM ???How could that happen in America?

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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 7:23:41 PM

AF, would you also, agree that the parties have changed many times since Andrew Jackson?

The Tea Party movement began shortly after the inauguration of President Obama. At first it was a response to the stimulus spending of 2008. It quickly grew into a hard right movement to confront anything progressive. With the elections of 2010, the Tea Party claimed a mandate of support to stop any ability to form compromise with the left. Henceforth, it has widened the gap of that cooperation and has resulted in the impasse of Congress to accomplish anything. Fox News and other conservative sites are especially happy to give time or space for ratings or sales that result from controversy. Controversy sells and the conservative media, in effect as a result have yielded a growing American hatred of politics.

As a result, voter participation is down and only a few vote to control the US, as many more now, just think there is no use in voting. The divide has been accomplished and the American public is hurt by it.

[Edited by: btc1 at 10/8/2014 7:25:38 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 6:27:04 PM

asfnoc brings up a excellant point!!!

r repub kids got the rite to be fat! (some1s gotta play DE on the Tide! LOLOL!!)

laura bush jest wanted kids ta read
nancy reagen (!!!) jest wanted kids to stay offa drugs

but OBAMA wants em eating good food!

WHATS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???

reading = good!
staying offa drugs = good
eatin good foods = bad!!!

DUH

whats so hard 4 u libs 2 understand????

WOW!
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 6:09:32 PM

"I do not agree with attacking the family of politicians until they put themselves in the target zone. "


But the "target zone" is subjective. If a person doesn't like the first lady's husband and/or ANY of her causes, then they feel justified in attacking her, even though there's nothing wrong with the cause. Some of the worst attacks I've seen on a 1st lady were right here on Gasbuddies and totally unnecessary. You don't have to be guttery to disagree. And you know that as long as you've been on here, you never saw me attack Laura Bush...in fact, I did quiet the opposite and commended her for her stance on Burma and supporting the "Homeboy Enterprises" which works with at-risk youth...
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 5:47:50 PM

"I would say its worse...because I don't recall attacks on Laura Bush as I see with Michelle Obama (even around here)...and Laura had some political causes herself, teaching, Burma, etc."

I do not agree with attacking the family of politicians until they put themselves in the target zone. Which of Laura Bush's pet projects affected our country like Michelle's? Michelle's school food program is a mess. If you are going to make a move to make them eat healthier the least they could do is find food children will eat. I agree that some of our children need to eat better but not eating is worse than eating some things that could be harmful if in excess...like pizza. It has gotten so bad that a child cannot even have a soda in the lunch room...it is illegal and a school can be fined.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 5:42:02 PM

"Yes, there were plenty of people on the left who were derisive and insulted W which I did not support but today it seems worse. Maybe it is because 6 years have passed since then, but... "


I would say its worse...because I don't recall attacks on Laura Bush as I see with Michelle Obama (even around here)...and Laura had some political causes herself, teaching, Burma, etc.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 5:22:01 PM

"Certainly the split was there well before what I referenced, I was speaking more to the widening of that rift... If I recall correctly, Congress had a pretty decent working relationship (Gingrich/Clinton) in the 90's?"

It comes and goes depending on our political and economic situation. Andrew Jackson blamed the political hatred of his opponents on his wife's sudden illness and then death. His opponents while he was running for his first term were absolutely brutal.

[Edited by: AFSNCO at 10/8/2014 5:22:39 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 4:57:20 PM

"The difference is all of a sudden it is racist to do those things."

Some certainly say that, but I don't see that as being the opinion of the majority of posters on the left.

"but since they are treating him the same way doesn't it just make sense that it is only partisan politics, something we should be accustomed to by now?"

Every election cycle the venom 'seems' to increase in potency IMO. The comments we see today, especially from the talking heads, seem to be as poignant as ever with an unprecedented level of disrespect for the office. Yes, there were plenty of people on the left who were derisive and insulted W which I did not support but today it seems worse. Maybe it is because 6 years have passed since then, but...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 4:53:05 PM

"Oh it was there before that..."

Certainly the split was there well before what I referenced, I was speaking more to the widening of that rift... If I recall correctly, Congress had a pretty decent working relationship (Gingrich/Clinton) in the 90's?

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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 4:06:05 PM

...and who got audited by the IRS right after his Pray Brkft speech?
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 3:29:24 PM

BTW Weasel, you hit on a very good point. The venom the left threw at Bush was disgusting and now the Democrats sit and complain about the right doing to Obama what they did to Bush. The difference is all of a sudden it is racist to do those things. If Obama had not been treated by the opposition like past presidents you may be able to claim as such...but since they are treating him the same way doesn't it just make sense that it is only partisan politics, something we should be accustomed to by now?
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 3:22:04 PM

"I have to disagree with the origins of the split as I saw the rift occurring under W when the Dems were utilizing similar, if slightly less venomous, tactics now on full display by the right over Katrina, WMD's, etc.

But to your point, the speed with which the rift has grown has accelerated exponentially over the past 6 years with the advent of the Tea Party, IMO. Even Boehner has had enough of them and their constant stomping of their feet and slamming of doors when they don't get what they want..."

Oh it was there before that...the split happened when politics became more about party than it did about the country. The biggest was probably toward the end of the 1800s as we went through big changes around industry. That is when you saw the split and people stood behind their party to keep control of government from both Democrats and Republicans. Remember the political machines that controlled politics in most of the big cities? It was not about what you brought for the people but what you brought for the people in charge. Nobody is innocent in this problem and it gets worse depending on the economic times.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 3:16:56 PM

"This split really started when the Tea Party bunch went way off to the right and drug everyone else center right and right with them."

I have to disagree with the origins of the split as I saw the rift occurring under W when the Dems were utilizing similar, if slightly less venomous, tactics now on full display by the right over Katrina, WMD's, etc.

But to your point, the speed with which the rift has grown has accelerated exponentially over the past 6 years with the advent of the Tea Party, IMO. Even Boehner has had enough of them and their constant stomping of their feet and slamming of doors when they don't get what they want...

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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 3:00:25 PM

"It takes two to tango, 75. Sure, Reid, Pelosi and even Obama have done their share in creating the divide, but so have the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Cruz etc."

Weasle, you are so right, a cravass occurs when two sides split/ This split really started when the Tea Party bunch went way off to the right and drug everyone else center right and right with them.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 2:58:46 PM

"Yea, you are probably right... he likely planned it ahead of that....but then we don't have a transcript of that...LOL "



Well there were some missing emails prior to January 20, 2009...so maybe the transcript is buried in there as a PDF?

*ROTFL*
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 2:11:33 PM

"I guess the "Gestapo Age" has been around longer than January 20, 2009, huh???"

Yea, you are probably right... he likely planned it ahead of that....


but then we don't have a transcript of that...LOL
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:27:44 PM

"I do not recall anyone defending people being removed for wearing a tee shirt. What I remember is defending people being removed for causing a disturbance. Just because they wore a certain tee shirt was secondary."


Actually they DID NOT create a disturbance:

"The couple’s First Amendment rights were violated when they were arrested and removed from a taxpayer-funded event featuring President Bush because their shirts read "Love America, Hate Bush" and "Regime Change Starts at Home." Jeffery and Nicole Rank refused directions from event staff and law enforcement to cover up their shirts at a July 4, 2004, West Virginia rally featuring President Bush. The pair were arrested, detained and charged with trespassing. The charges were later dismissed. "





That same lawsuit also uncovered a very "Gestapo" type manual used by that Administration against protesters:

I guess you also didn't remember "the disclosure of an allegedly "sensitive" Presidential Advance Manual, which laid out the White House’s meticulous efforts to protect the president and his public image from dissent. "As a last resort, security should remove the demonstrators from the event," the manual instructs."




*sarcasm on*

But of course, the only Gestapo operating in America started on January 20, 2009...Yep because before then, nobody was afraid of the government jailing them for speaking out, right???

*sarcasm off*
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:19:56 PM

"Close to getting any electoral votes? I don't think so."

True. I should have said: he came as close as any have come given the popular vote he received - which was still good enough for a distant 3rd place.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:16:34 PM

I do not recall anyone defending people being removed for wearing a tee shirt. What I remember is defending people being removed for causing a disturbance. Just because they wore a certain tee shirt was secondary.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:15:15 PM

"I am guessing some here are having a guilty conscience that the government had used their powers to excess and scrutinized people and groups unfairly."

No, just not finding the parallels all that compelling. They may have had good cause to scrutinize some of the groups and took it a bit far, apparently.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:12:50 PM

"But that is fine with the liberals around here...or so it appears."


And ditto for all of the conservatives who defended the abuse of 1st amendmnet privileges when protesters were removed and jailed for wearing T-shirts...

Remember? I guess the "Gestapo Age" has been around longer than January 20, 2009, huh???

[Edited by: RNorm at 10/8/2014 1:13:22 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:12:14 PM

"So, I guess that means that AFSNCO is absolving Obama of any responsibility in the IRS investigation of conservative groups."

I do not know. What we do know is that Lois Lerner is holding back and needs to be prosecuted. Not just for her involvement but for her cover up. Remember the "rogue agents" explanation in the beginning? Turns out she knew a heck of a lot more than she let on. But to not try to find the truth is not fair to the public.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:10:18 PM

Looking even further at what Carson said he did not even say Democrat, Republican, liberal or conservative. I am guessing some here are having a guilty conscience that the government had used their powers to excess and scrutinized people and groups unfairly. If you were a threat to the election of certain people you were scrutinized. But that is fine with the liberals around here...or so it appears.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:07:35 PM

"Perot came close..."

Close to getting any electoral votes? I don't think so.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:06:30 PM

"Norm, he was discussing specifically the IRS and their tactics of using their power. You and the liberal press are the ones that stretched it to Obama."

So, I guess that means that AFSNCO is absolving Obama of any responsibility in the IRS investigation of conservative groups.

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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:06:21 PM

"Though perhaps that is where Carson has an advantage as an alleged outsider. Hasn't worked for anybody since Eisenhower in a presidential bid though."

Perot came close...

Over the years participating in the 'How do you like Obama' thread, rjhenn has started to nudge me towards voting Independent if this election is again a decision between choosing the 'lesser of two evils' regarding Dem vs. GOP.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 1:05:44 PM

"Norm's tactic of saying you must support XYZ poster because they posted something controversial and you did not call them out"


You mean like embracing Pilgrim in whatever name he calls himself when you know full well why he was banned???

Dude, don't say you don't know because you're posting and slapping him on the back quite frequently.

LOL, SMH
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