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mexicomaria

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:47:47 PM

At long last...a man that does not care to be politically correct, he cares to be frank. Dr Ben Carson speaks at Prayer Brkft
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btc1
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 9:36:12 PM

Tim, I do not remember Hillary ever being a commentator for Fox.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 9:25:31 PM

"Is he out campaigning or not?"

Is Hillary?
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btc1
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 3:01:27 PM

He visits Republican stronghold, Somerset, KY

Is he out campaigning or not?
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2014 11:44:24 PM

RAB.....His speech was just "politically incorrect" enough to get Ben Carson audited by the IRS.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2014 10:10:56 PM

Dr. Carson publishes the black conservative ezine, American CurrentSee. The latest issue profiles Marion Barry. Well-written articles(you will have the entire ezine read before you know it) profile the multi-faceted and complex Barry. This is not a "let's dump on Marion Barry" project. In fact, you come away with the phrases "politics transcends friendships" and "you had to be there" as phrases that are supremely important to understanding Barry.

You do have to register and sign in to read American CurrentSee. Doing so will not add any type of spam to your email--I forget all about CurrentSee until I receive a notice that the next e-issue is available to read.

American CurrentSee
"In This Issue this week, in a special, commemorative issue devoted to the controversial life and legacy of the politically consequential — and personally complicated — four-term mayor of Washington D.C., Marion Barry (1936-2014):
Armstrong Williams sketches a portrait of a politically nimble populist whose many personal failings only made him more relatable to the weak and marginalized who saw him as their friend and ally in the corridors of power.

Juan Williams remembers a vindictive machine politician who used racial demagoguery to cement his political base while failing the poor black voters he claimed to champion as "crime, unemployment and infant mortality increased, while the stock of low-income and public housing decreased" on his watch.

Among other perspectives on the many-faceted "mayor-for-life:" Barry's former chief of staff Brenda Williams on a people's champion, Deborah Simmons on the maverick who supported public school vouchers, and Theresa Caldwell on the dazzling, dashiki-clad community organizer who took D.C. by storm in the 1970s with his intellect and personal charisma."


[Edited by: mweyant at 11/30/2014 10:13:45 PM EST]
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RAB2010
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2014 11:46:41 AM

Yes, his speech at the prayer breakfast was good. It would have been nice had it been a little sharper. Sharp enough to cut deep. But then, perhaps he was trying to avoid being politically incorrect or insensitive.

The point where this fellow lost many supporters was his ignorant comment of late when he suggested police officers shoot for the legs. Well, this kind of suggestion demonstrates a level of ignorance that takes the man out of the running for president. Presidential quality material would know that when stopping a threat, one aims for center mass. Shooting at the legs is impractical, and exponentially increases the risk of collateral injury from ricochet or shrapnel.

Stupid.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2014 1:04:50 AM

Ben Carson: Conservatives' Friend or Conservative Foe?

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opinion

"I recently spent a good portion of a Saturday with Dr. Carson. We ate two meals together. One of those was a private lunch, which provided the occasion for a blunt, off-the-record discussion about where the country is at as well as his potential candidacy. I also emceed a fundraiser he spoke at that was packed with key Iowa Caucus activists. So I think I got a fairly good glimpse of Carson's motivations and beliefs.

Carson didn't have any handlers. He came only with his friendly wife Candy, who was very comfortable introducing herself to everyone, and took some time to go and play the violin at a local hospital for some sick kids. If he's a stalking horse for the establishment, which is a theory I've heard posited from some conservatives, Carson did a very poor job of playing his role. He did and said almost all the things the political class says not to do and say, and the crowd ate it up.

Is Carson as winsome a communicator as Mike Huckabee? No.

Is Carson as powerful defending conservative principles as Ted Cruz? No.

Does Carson have a major policy win over the Left like Scott Walker? No.

Does Carson have a track record like a Rick Santorum or a Bobby Jindal? No.

Is Carson surrounded by people who have been preparing to run him for president from the time he first became known like Rand Paul? No.

But what Carson has going for him is a life story that is the very embodiment of the American Dream. As well as a deep desire to end the Left's politically-correct divisiveness, and restore the melting pot of a uniquely American culture that was once our biggest strength as a people."

The article embodies what I like about Carson. :)
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2014 12:14:48 PM

<<<He is a break from the professional politicians, however my concerns are not having been a politician he has no strings to pull.>>>

Nor any axes to grind. He may actually be willing to sit down and talk to people. Not for show or to gain some political advantage but to actually develop relationships.

And maybe he has a desire to actually govern rather then simply campaign 24/7. Hey one can hope.... for change.

<<< he needs to give more of his believes on lots more issues. >>>

Agreed. And if/when he runs you can rest assured the media will do a far more in depth vetting then they did with their mascot Mr Obama. It was more like hero worship. Guaranteed that wouldn't happen with Mr Carson.

<<<'Unfortunately for any other GOP candidate, Romney leads all other Republicans in nationwide polls. If Ben Carson is a point behind, he is in a strong second place already!>>>

Since Romney isn't likely to run wouldn't that put him ahead of all other "likely" candidates? And he hasn't even announced yet.

Since he has never run for office yet we'll have to see how he handles the primaries.

[Edited by: airfresh at 11/28/2014 12:15:40 PM EST]
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 9:46:42 AM

I have heard him speak a couple times now.

He seems like a reasonable logical person worth listening to.

He is a break from the professional politicians, however my concerns are not having been a politician he has no strings to pull.

I have had a narrow exposure, he needs to give more of his believes on lots more issues.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 10:23:53 AM

"Unfortunately for weasle, Romney leads all other Republicans in nationwide polls. If Ben Carson is a point behind, he is in a strong second place already!"

Wow, I75, that is quite impressive... I agree.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 9:00:54 AM

"Unfortunately for weasle, Romney leads all other Republicans in nationwide polls. If Ben Carson is a point behind, he is in a strong second place already!"

Let me fix that for you;

'Unfortunately for any other GOP candidate, Romney leads all other Republicans in nationwide polls. If Ben Carson is a point behind, he is in a strong second place already!

Tea Partier logic = FAIL'

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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 8:59:09 AM

>>>"Unfortunately for Carson, he is a point behind Romney in IA polling. That is pretty telling, IMO."<<<

Unfortunately for weasle, Romney leads all other Republicans in nationwide polls. If Ben Carson is a point behind, he is in a strong second place already!

Weasle logic = FAIL
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 12:35:48 PM

"Hey, Weas, tell that to Iowa . . ."

I have no doubt that the Tea Partiers are already firmly behind him as a candidate...

Unfortunately for Carson, he is a point behind Romney in IA polling. That is pretty telling, IMO.

I'm certainly not saying he has no supporters, just trying to put that support into perspective.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 11:53:51 AM

Hey, Weas, tell that to Iowa . . .

Ben Carson's Fans Await Him in Iowa

11-22-14

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 10:52:58 AM

"More than a couple of people feel that he is a viable candidate"

That really isn't vary many - there are more 'likes' on most college football team's pages...

Just sayin'.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 10:52:11 AM

"Weasel nice to see your back after having the week end off."

Oops - I made multiple posts on Saturday.

Someday you'll learn, mexico. Until then you'll keep putting that proverbial foot in your mouth, I guess.

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mweyant
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 10:12:53 AM

There are 115,000+ likes on the Dr. Ben Carson for President Facebook page.

More than a couple of people feel that he is a viable candidate.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 10:11:24 AM

Weasel nice to see your back after having the week end off.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 9:48:18 AM

"Could we use a man like Ben Carson....a man that does not think he is something he is not."

An immensely successful neurosurgeon who thinks he is a viable Presidential candidate?

Huh...
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 10:44:07 AM

"Edging closer? He's running."

"Everyday I would get closer [to running] because I'm going to make a decision by May the 1st"
-- Dr. Ben Carson



[Edited by: Zimcity at 11/23/2014 10:46:23 AM EST]
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 10:09:33 AM

Carson will be a panelist on This Week With George Stephanopoulos (ABC) this morning.

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Grizdad
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 9:14:12 AM

Seems like a man with integrity.
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 7:37:21 AM

Edging closer? He's running.

And it would be an interesting contrast for African American voters between the victim mentality and obsession with denigrating our institutions of the Obama administration and... well... one who won't make excuses and blame everyone else for his failures.
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 7:19:20 AM

In Iowa, Ben Carson Says He's Edging Closer to 2016 Run

11-22-14

"Ben Carson said Saturday he's getting closer to making a decision to run for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination and is spending time studying foreign policy and building a network of “people in critical positions” waiting to launch a campaign."
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 9:24:51 PM

The President of the USA has forgotten his oath of office, he upholds the laws of the land, the Congress is the legislative body, then there is the judicial body. President now thinks the Judicial, or legislative body are no longer needed. I am afraid he is in for a new education. THe election was the begging of the education. What did he learn from that, NOTHING, so now we will move to the next lesson for him. Each one should get more painful for him but he does not no the world "I made a mistake, let's clean it up"...nope, we have to sue the President of the USA.

Could we use a man like Ben Carson....a man that does not think he is something he is not.
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 9:07:10 PM

teacher_tim: "Republicans and Democrats who value the laws and Constitution of this country should immediately defund any part of this order and sue for its immediate nullification."

Absolutely agreed. (Instead, Boenher made a statement, saying "I wish he hadn't done that" -- and Congress left town).

weaselspit: "And that is fine as long as it spurs Congress to take action of their own to correct the issue, rather than continuing to kick the can down the road... "

To correct the issue of immigration, Congress will have to trust the President to implement and enforce the laws as written.

We already knew from how Obama implemented Obamacare that he can't be trusted. Now his imperial immigratnion amnesty edict, in flagrant disregard for the law and the Constitution, underscores that.

Which means passing real immigration reform (other than necessary preliminaries like securing the border) will have to wait for a future Republican President.

GTH

[Edited by: gas_too_high at 11/21/2014 9:07:33 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 4:26:25 PM

"Republicans and Democrats who value the laws and Constitution of this country should immediately defund any part of this order and sue for its immediate nullification."

And that is fine as long as it spurs Congress to take action of their own to correct the issue, rather than continuing to kick the can down the road...
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 12:17:50 PM

Obama has the power to use executive orders to clarify confusing EXISTING laws, not to make laws up himself. If the Congress chooses NOT to make a new law and to continue using existing law, Obama must work with that existing law. What he did last night is tantamount to the SCOTUS ruling on a case they've never heard.

Republicans and Democrats who value the laws and Constitution of this country should immediately defund any part of this order and sue for its immediate nullification.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 12:04:33 PM

"So why don't they fix it? Are they going to take their ball and go home now that the president has ordered a temporary, partial stop-gap fix because he didn't wait for them?"




That is total B.S. Sgm4Law... You may be in denial and I can understand that.



The president had no intention of doing anything with illegal aliens, or securing the borders. And the Congress and new Senate will likely do just that... if they don't get to caught up with the bickering about his rediculous amnesty...

This president is a LAME president, impotent and will make all kinda noise on his campign trail, but he is done...


Oh, he can be very dangerous with executive orders, but basically he's impotent... and has blown his opportunities..



There will finally be some change... And with the conservatives soon to be in control of both houses... there will be little this diminutive Lame duck will be able to do, other than quack alot....



The most important thing is to secure the borders... that was never done and that has lead us to where we are today. De - funding the damaging portions of the obama actions should be done.. and likely will be done.

Maybe Obama can fund it by getting contribution from supporters...

He can raise money from them as he proved in all his fly time last couple of months....

[Edited by: reb4 at 11/21/2014 12:07:01 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 9:56:13 AM

"So why don't they fix it? Are they going to take their ball and go home now that the president has ordered a temporary, partial stop-gap fix because he didn't wait for them?"

They will just complain about it to try to score points with their base for the next election rather than actually 'doing something' about it...
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 9:03:33 AM

>>> So why don't they fix it? <<<

   → Harry Reid ←

Where ya been these past four years?

 

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 11/21/2014 9:03:53 AM EST]
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 8:43:13 AM

"Congress must use its lawmaking powers to fix a system that is so broken that only a legislative solution can fix it. The lack of policy progress has been incredibly frustrating, and the humanitarian border crisis this summer only highlighted how badly we need a system that deals efficiently and effectively with both illegal and legal immigration."

So why don't they fix it? Are they going to take their ball and go home now that the president has ordered a temporary, partial stop-gap fix because he didn't wait for them?
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 8:31:08 AM

Carson: Common-sense Immigration Reform

Here are comments posted yesterday Detroit News...

"We have all heard it said many times that America is a land of immigrants, some voluntary and some involuntary, but immigrants nevertheless. We have plenty of space in our country, but insufficient resources to support everyone who wants to come here. When we see innocent children used as political pawns, it still tugs at our heartstrings.

The real question is: What are we going to do about it? Immigration reform has been a very tough issue, as well as a political football, and it has produced stalemates and no useful solutions for decades.

President Barack Obama’s decision to act unilaterally outside of Congress is not the answer. Instead, Congress must use its lawmaking powers to fix a system that is so broken that only a legislative solution can fix it. The lack of policy progress has been incredibly frustrating, and the humanitarian border crisis this summer only highlighted how badly we need a system that deals efficiently and effectively with both illegal and legal immigration."
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2014 5:34:24 AM

Addressing ideas concerning illegal immigration(no one else is doing it):

"A national guest-worker program makes sense and seems to work well in Canada. Noncitizens would have to apply for a guest-worker permit and have a guaranteed job awaiting them. Taxes would be paid at a rate commensurate with other U.S. workers, and special visas would allow for easy entry and egress across borders. Guest-worker status would be granted to individuals and not to groups.

People already here illegally could apply for guest-worker status from outside of the country. This means they would have to leave first. They should in no way be rewarded for having broken our laws, but if they are wise, they will arrange with their employer before they leave to immediately offer them a legal job as soon as their application is received. When they return, they still would not be U.S. citizens, but they would be legal, and they would be paying taxes. Only jobs that are vacant as a result of a lack of interest by American citizens should be eligible for the guest-worker program.

In return for greater certainty on immigration, employers must bear some responsibility for making sure no illegal immigrants are hired. Employers who break the rules should receive swift, severe and consistent punishment that constitutes a real deterrent and not a mere inconvenience. A second infraction should be a criminal offense and treated as such."
Ben Carson


[Edited by: mweyant at 11/21/2014 5:34:53 AM EST]
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:52:03 PM

REB
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just iggyd weaslespitt.... should be able to see more of the valid information..

added streetrider... as well... He has been way to annoying in another topic so poof..

Wow just because someone asks questions, comes back and answers your as you said you didn't get it.

I guess that could be annoying.
BYE BYE
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:20:25 PM

"just iggyd weaslespitt.... should be able to see more of the valid information.."

Buh-bye, kiddo. Best wishes.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:18:43 PM

MexicoMaria, we will see with the Good Dr. THanks for including that...Somehow I am getting his newsletter... (LOL) some interesting stuff...
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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:16:43 PM

just iggyd weaslespitt.... should be able to see more of the valid information..

added streetrider... as well... He has been way to annoying in another topic so poof..

He Gone...
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 4:53:43 PM

Why Dr. Ben Carson is my hero. By Juan Williams.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 3:29:35 PM

"Cause I'm not sure I know what it means to "appear to be sad"?"

Really? Struggling with basic understanding now? Guess you're out of luck - I can't fix that one bub.
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 3:26:37 PM

lets say he wins, then what? with no party he will be alienated, once again Washington will exercise grid lock.

If someone see's it different explain?

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reb4
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 3:01:09 PM

"What appears to be sad"Tell me are you sad weasle>?Cause I'm not sure I know what it means to "appear to be sad"?

Tim, I believe that story about the man...

It will be interesting to see how he survives the gauntlet that will come up ...

I don't think in this toxic country anyone could survive that would actually make a difference .... Though I could "Hope " for Change.....
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 1:19:31 PM

"He is a kind, compassionate man who honestly cares about doing what's right, even if it means making the hard decisions."

I wouldn't question that for a second.
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 1:01:29 PM

I have known Dr. Carson personally for years. He is a kind, compassionate man who honestly cares about doing what's right, even if it means making the hard decisions. Unfortunately, the last time we spoke was at the funeral of a former student and Carson scholar winner who passed away during a college class. He drove himself over sixty miles after working all day to speak about her from his heart at a memorial service. He was wearing a pin she'd given him several years before and explained its meaning. I wouldn't be surprised to see him wearing a small silver bassoon next to his American flag as President.

I'd vote for him if he ran as ANY party's candidate. When he announces, I will be volunteering for him starting that day, as will my family. My teen and twenty both offered to if he ran. Imagine a black man running for President who really cares about what is best for the country. Now THAT gives me hope for real change for the better.
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 12:49:32 PM

"it's sad, weasle knows that the tread is about Dr. Ben Carson, (per Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:26:13 AM) Yet he has repeated a post that has nothing to do about about Obama, whom he has publicly stated he voted for... 2x's

SMH"

What appears to be sad is your inability to understand the point being made...
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 11:58:03 AM

no, I meant honesty in a President. I would like a PResident who has no Political background but can excel at whatever he or she decides to do, and is always known for Honesty. Now, that would not be Hillary, or Elizabeth Warren who lied about her Native American ancestry.
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 11:47:10 AM

it's sad, weasle knows that the tread is about Dr. Ben Carson, (per Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:26:13 AM) Yet he has repeated a post that has nothing to do about about Obama, whom he has publicly stated he voted for... 2x's




SMH



"Wouldn't honesty be nice.."

MM, there are posters that get all worked up and just want to outdo someone, so they makeup harebrained stuff...




[Edited by: reb4 at 11/12/2014 11:47:42 AM EST]
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 11:12:48 AM

Wouldn't honesty be nice.......refreshing to have honest. Lying has become an epidemic...folks lie over nothing. It is that truth would be a better story but they can not get out of the lying mode.

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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 10:26:13 AM

"Actually if you have any common sense you would read what the topic is about...."

And here it is;

"Grassroots drive for Dr. Ben Carson, to be President in 2016"

Seems to be about Carson to me, and not whom people consider as candidates in general for 2016...

"Like I said before, and have been quoted several times since ... Dr. Carson could easily say he is going to run on Hope and Change... and that would be a great line... as long as he follows through... unlike our current POTUS who said whatever he thought people wanted to hear and ran and did something different once he got in office..."

And like I said before, be careful what you wish for;

"Actually, that is the biggest problem I had with Obama's first 2 years - he was too rigid trying to follow-through on his campaign promises (Obamacare, Cap&Trade) rather than adapting to what was needed; taking care of the tanking economy while he had a majority in Congress."
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 9:29:13 AM

"I'm sorry, I thought the topic of this thread was Carson."

Actually if you have any common sense you would read what the topic is about....""Actually, that is the biggest problem I had with Obama's first 2 years - he was too rigid trying to follow-through on his campaign promises (Obamacare, Cap&Trade) rather than adapting to what was needed; taking care of the tanking economy while he had a majority in Congress."Well, now that Weaslespit... Spoke about his boy... let's get back on topic..

Dr. Ben Carson kicks off Bonita Christian Forum with a sold out crowd



"He’s a self-made man — with the help of God, he would add — and he believes anyone could do the same if they would take personal responsibility, educate themselves and stop bowing to intimidation. This was the message Carson gave to a near capacity crowd at the Bonita Christian Forum Monday night."

Like I said before, and have been quoted several times since ... Dr. Carson could easily say he is going to run on Hope and Change... and that would be a great line... as long as he follows through... unlike our current POTUS who said whatever he thought people wanted to hear and ran and did something different once he got in office...


[Edited by: reb4 at 11/12/2014 9:30:17 AM EST]
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"But you keep on hanging around posting here just criticizing all that post here. Why not look for someone you support?"

I'm sorry, I thought the topic of this thread was Carson.

My mistake, apparently...

"Like I said... Dr. Carson could easily say he is going to run on Hope and Change... and that would be a great line... as long as he follows through... unlike our current POTUS who said whatever he thought people wanted to hear and ran and did something different once he got the vote.."

And like I said;

"Actually, that is the biggest problem I had with Obama's first 2 years - he was too rigid trying to follow-through on his campaign promises (Obamacare, Cap&Trade) rather than adapting to what was needed; taking care of the tanking economy while he had a majority in Congress."
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