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calwdstk

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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 1:23:57 PM

Now that everyone is examining this law, they are finding out. Costs will rise for family's, some people will not be covered, namely children. Then the ultimate 9 Million less then predicted will be covered, and more. Read the full article on this from NY Times.

Wheels Coming Off - NYPOST
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Passer
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 2:54:13 AM

"Wrong! It is Obama..."

That is legitimate opinion. What the Tea Party can't see is that HERE it is against the rules to attack a member. THAT is not opinion! ASK the moderators? Have you also, conveniently forgotten the rules HERE?? What is it about the Right that thinks that they are always right and above all rules if they disagree. Attacking a member is not "Obama and the Democrats" as much as you try to change the SUBJECT as if you were employed by Fox.

It's not being against Unions or Obamacare that gives you the right to personally attack any member here. You make your side look very small by continuing to defend a troll who thinks he has the right to attack other members because he thinks he is right and doesn't like those he disagrees with.

**How can one justify anything they believe in by willfully violating rules to prove how right and superior they are??**



That IS the Tea Party and they continue to prove their moral bankruptcy by never admitting when they are wrong and continuing to "defend" when they are wrong.

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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 4:03:50 PM

Passer, "Except that insults against other members are against the rules here. Like Radicals everywhere, you and TP members think you are above all rules."

Wrong! It is Obama and the democrats (as has been shown with over a dozen Supreme Court rulings against them) that think thy are above the law (rules).

The unions are the ones that think they should be above the ObamaCare laws, THEY want special privileges.
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Passer
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 2:50:39 PM

I75, There are exceptions for everything. I don't include you or anybody with any class in my rant against the self important rule breaker. You, and many have played by the rules, and you have class. The self-important rule-breaker has flunked that category (ie class) and belittles the group (the Tea Party) he thinks he represents. Those who break rules are known as "trolls" and they infect many online groups and what used to be called, message boards...
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 1:30:40 PM

Trying to equate the Tea Part with the Klan just doesn't work.
That dog ain't huntin'

You're barking up the wrong tree.

It sure looks, now, like we should have stayed IN Iraq and stayed OUT of health care! The nation would be better off in every respect!
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Passer
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 1:02:48 PM

"You insult my intelligence when you try your stupid little tactic. It's only right that you deserve an insult in return."

Except that insults against other members are against the rules here. Like Radicals everywhere, you and TP members think you are above all rules.

You make all rules, what you consider correct is correct and others are not entitled to any contrary views. If you don't like what the duly elected government does, you shut it down!


Like jihadists everywhere, it is your ideology that should make all rules and you only subscribe to your own the only difference, as you have shown, between you and the jihardists is ideology!



In a couple of years you and your Tea Party will comment, "it only right that we blew it up because that's what you deserved in return".

"Obozo" is just your petty racism of the moment to get all closet and other racists to join side for the time being. After his term is up you may ask your daughters and sons of Birchers what to shut down next. So far you are two steps removed from the Klan, as time marches on, you may march with them completely in lockstep.

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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 7:45:48 AM

Passer, you just need to "man-up" a little and get some common sense.

You need to recognize the failings of your own party before you start to accuse others of being incredibly stupid.

Namely, at some point in time you need to recognize that Obozo has elevated himself to be the dumbest, most failed president in the history of the nation. Continuing to excuse his stupidity by redirecting to the common tactic of ridicule doesn't work anymore, simply because the people that liberals consider stupid have proven to be much smarter than your oh-so-intelligent liberals! A prime example is "stupid" George W. Bush's Iraqi surge which worked as intended, while "intelligent" Obozo said it never would...and look at the mess Iraq is now that Obozo has had his way!

You liberals love to ridicule Palin, but she's been right many times more than she's been wrong in her political assessments. Compare that to Wasserman-Schultz, Obozo, Pelosi, etc. who have been utterly wrong almost EVERY time. Palin also has political accomplishments she can be proud of and that proved to be beneficial to her constituents. Obozo, Pelosi, etc....NONE!

You insult my intelligence when you try your stupid little tactic. It's only right that you deserve an insult in return.

[Edited by: jeskibuff at 8/24/2014 7:48:35 AM EST]
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Passer
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 2:57:25 AM

"...especially knowing that Palin's IQ is about 4 times more than yours!"

Another Tea Party example of not following the rules. Personal attacks are supposed to be against the rules. But Anarchists HAVE NO RULES, FOLLOW NO RULES, their only purpose is to destroy, shut down and blow up.

I never attacked jestibuff personally. But when a Tea Party person hears something they don't like: they follow Tea Party and Anarchists policy and revert to their mob "thinking".

It is too much just to attack in general, they always must make it personal. I have always understood the Tea Party from the beginning and its time most Americans see them for what they are: Anarchists, destroyers and will never follow any rules if they can get away with personally attacking anything they don't like.They are, and always have been morally bankrupt and all I have given here is one example of proof.

In the political world they threaten reporters with "throwing them off balconies" if they ask embarrassing questions or win Florida Congressional Seats on "Tea Party Principles" but end up being addicted to Coke when examined by the press. Jeskibuff is a typical Tea Party: rules mean nothing when the most constructive thing to do is ignore rules, attack personally and follow TP Anarchist Etiquette: shut it down or blow it up.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2014 11:10:23 AM

Passer said: "Just to triple GOP Thinkstank Sarah Palin's? That, is just not fair.."

I can understand your frustration, especially knowing that Palin's IQ is about 4 times more than yours!
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2014 7:36:52 AM

Due to ObamaCare, the insurance premium for my girlfriend is now higher than my mortgage payment!
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mweyant
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2014 5:32:56 AM

Hopes for job recovery dashed by Affordable Care Act

8-20-2014

opinion

"The rising cost of health care under Obamacare is now the biggest impediment between my family and financial stability. I count this as one of Washington's worst broken promises. When Obamacare became law several years ago, politicians like Sen. Udall promised that it would help us get ahead, that our costs would go down $2,500 a year and that we would have better coverage.

None of this was true for my family; we have higher costs and fewer choices. After I lost my job and my employer-sponsored health plan, I purchased a plan on the open market. I specifically chose a plan that fit our needs and kept our costs down. It was a catastrophic-coverage plan, where we paid $750 a month and had a $2,500 deductible.

At the time, I assumed that the economy would only improve and that I would soon have access to employer-sponsored coverage again. That hasn't happened, so I've kept the same plan for the past five years.

The plan didn't become unaffordable until after Obamacare went into effect. We now pay $900 a month in premiums and our deductible has quadrupled to $10,000. The financial pain doesn't even end there: After we reach that limit, we still have to cough up an additional 20 percent."
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Passer
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2014 1:45:35 PM

"Wasserman-Schultz needs some desperate help in getting her IQ up into double digits."

Just to triple GOP Thinkstank Sarah Palin's?

That, is just not fair...
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 6:11:32 PM

AFSNCO said: "Seems the DNC Chair needs some help in what is going on with ObamaCare."

Wasserman-Schultz needs some desperate help in getting her IQ up into double digits.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 1:20:51 PM

Let's see what the new court rulings are going to be next. I understand that ObamaCare is about to be weakened by them.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 12:35:57 AM

Next year's tax forms are being readied, and a simple undeniable truth is contained therein, cementing the surety of one of 0bama's lies:
New IRS Form Proves Obama Lied About Individual Mandate Tax

Coming to a mailbox or a library near you soon.
Happy reading.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:53:52 AM

Seems the DNC Chair needs some help in what is going on with ObamaCare.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:51:10 PM

AnotherOne said: "And the state politicians should be applauded and RE-elected for refusing to be part of this scam."

Except of course for the ones who spent billions of taxpayer dollars setting up their own exchanges for exorbitant cost per enrollee (see my July 15th post for more info on that).
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:37:20 PM

Isn't it the state legislatures that pass laws? In any case, the chickens are coming home to roost for those voters.

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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 6:22:26 PM

Marty, "People living in those states that did not set up state exchanges should be worrying about their subsidies, and should be holding accountable those state politicians who failed to act."

In Missouri and several other states the voters, remember them, passed laws that made it impossible to set up state exchanges. The voters in these states recognized what a disaster the exchange system would be and didn't want any part of it, especially the bill.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 5:18:51 PM

Gidzmo, "In the meantime, I've heard that one court ruled the subsidies unconstitutional, while another court ruled in the opposite direction."

That is not what they ruled. The law states that only people that get insurance through "state exchanges" can get subsidies.

The purpose of stating it like that was to put pressure on states to have their own exchange.

Well, 36 states did not set up their own exchanges. They are part of the federal exchange (which is NOT a state exchange).

Since the democrats rushed to pass this law (you have to pass it to see what is in it), they did not think about the what ifs (if states did not make their own exchanges anyway).

So one court took the law as passed and said that the words mean exactly what was printed, while the other court has said that Congress intended the law to say that those on federal exchanges can get subsidies.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:43:43 PM



Gov Mark "Target Stores Dividend Baby" Dayton set up ObamaCare in Minnesota as MNSUre.

It has been a disaster.

Corruption, overspending, failure of the website, people illegally getting insurance when they lie, etc etc etc

How typical.

So now the court says that it will cost MNSure even more.

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Gidzmo
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 3:56:40 PM

Tried the link--"page not found". Might have been scrubbed.

In the meantime, I've heard that one court ruled the subsidies unconstitutional, while another court ruled in the opposite direction.

And the WH, of course, ignored what it does not want to hear.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 10:06:59 AM

Marty, "People living in those states that did not set up state exchanges should be worrying about their subsidies, and should be holding accountable those state politicians who failed to act."

MAYBE, the people should start holding Obama and the Democrats that voted for this law for writing such a bad law!

But they said that we have to pass it before we find out what was in it!

How about holding THEM accountable???
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WES03
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:31:05 AM

We can only hope.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 9:13:38 PM

Here is a map of states
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 9:12:41 PM



MTMarty, " should be worrying about their subsidies, and should be holding accountable those state politicians who failed to act."

Totally upside down.

Why SHOULD they have OTHER people pay for their insurance?

The one they should hold accountable for this scam is THE ONE whose name is on it - OBAMACare!

And the state politicians should be applauded and RE-elected for refusing to be part of this scam.

;-)

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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 8:41:38 PM

Court wars--how nice.

People living in those states that did not set up state exchanges should be worrying about their subsidies, and should be holding accountable those state politicians who failed to act.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 5:16:43 PM

Thanks for posting the ruling, Sgm, after reading it, it would appear that the court in essence affirmed the IRS interpretation solely because it preserves the legislation, and if they were to rule against it, it would disable the legislation. I disagree with a ruling based on damage to a law, instead of a ruling based on law.

Their interpretations could be applied to contract law, by citing that a reasonable person wouldn't have "agreed to that", so the terms of the contract are modified to preserve the "reasonableness" of a contract.

Like I said, more worms.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 5:08:44 PM

People should be worrying about their subsidies.

The law, as written is clear. So when Pelosi said "we have to pass it to find out what is in it." She really meant it, but not in the way she thought.
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 4:33:22 PM

The opinion itself is publicly accessible.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 4:28:42 PM

Sgm: <<<"Here's a link to an article on the Fourth Circuit decision.">>>

--Your link won't work unless you register, can you cut and paste the gist of your link?

Incidentally, it looks like yet another worm is crawling out of the can...

[Edited by: EZExit at 7/22/2014 4:29:02 PM EST]
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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 4:20:36 PM

Here's a link to an article on the Fourth Circuit decision.
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 3:24:34 PM



Iammeca, "Actually there was one ruling for and one against."

Supreme Court here we come!

Maybe Chief Justice Roberts can once again argue in FRONT of the bench for Obama and tell him how he can make it legal, and the go BEHIND the bench and rule in favor of what he told Obama he could do.

CORRUPTION!

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IammeCA
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 2:30:38 PM

Actually there was one ruling for and one against.

From nraacct's linked story:

"About 100 miles to the south in Richmond, Virginia, another appeals court panel unanimously came to the opposite conclusion, ruling that the Internal Revenue Service correctly interpreted the will of Congress when it issued regulations allowing consumers in all 50 states to purchase subsidized coverage."

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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 1:53:10 PM

This is going to end up in the Supreme Court no matter what. The administration has already announced their intention to appeal this ruling to the entire D.C. circuit court, seven of whose eleven members were appointed by democrats, including four by Obama himself. It's highly likely that this ruling will be overturned by these judges and that result will be appealed to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, we are probably talking several years until we get a final ruling.


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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 1:30:03 PM



Ooops! The title to the last link I gave was wrong. The link was right but the title wrong.

Let's try it again.

One can only HOPE that Laurence Tribe is right!

Obama’s Law Professor: ‘I Wouldn’t Bet’ on Obamacare Surviving Next Legal Challenge

"President Obama’s old Harvard Law professor, Laurence Tribe, said that he “wouldn’t bet the family farm” on Obamacare’s surviving the legal challenges to an IRS rule about who is eligible for subsidies that are currently working their way through the federal courts.

“I don’t have a crystal ball,” Tribe told the Fiscal Times. “But I wouldn’t bet the family farm on this coming out in a way that preserves Obamacare.”

The law’s latest legal problem is that, as written, people who enroll in Obamacare through the federal exchange aren’t eligible for subsidies. The text of the law only provides subsidies for people enrolled through “an Exchange established by the State,” according to the text of the Affordable Care Act. Only 16 states decided to establish the exchanges.

The IRS issued a regulation expanding the pool of enrollees who qualify for the subsidies."



[Edited by: AnotherOne at 7/22/2014 1:31:38 PM EST]
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 1:18:11 PM

Today's appeals court ruling is indeed in line with the law and correct. Subsidies are for purchasers on the state exchanges only. So there is a big hole in people potentially wanting to buy on a federal exchange and needing a subsidy.
Will 0bama pick up his pen and try to Executive Order a way around this court ruling? Or will he use the microphone and simply declare, out loud, that we all know what the intent of Congress was, that the non-inclusion of subsidies for federal exchange users was just an oversight? Easy enough to remedy by saying it's okay, just continue with the subsidies.

This needs to go back to Congress.

Good Luck with that, Mr. 0bama.

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 7/22/2014 1:18:44 PM EST]
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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 1:12:31 PM



One can only HOPE that Laurence Tribe is right!

It might be good to mention, in addition to what is going on in Israel, the protests around the world and the antisemitism displayed there. Frightening, indeed.

"President Obama’s old Harvard Law professor, Laurence Tribe, said that he “wouldn’t bet the family farm” on Obamacare’s surviving the legal challenges to an IRS rule about who is eligible for subsidies that are currently working their way through the federal courts.

“I don’t have a crystal ball,” Tribe told the Fiscal Times. “But I wouldn’t bet the family farm on this coming out in a way that preserves Obamacare.”

The law’s latest legal problem is that, as written, people who enroll in Obamacare through the federal exchange aren’t eligible for subsidies. The text of the law only provides subsidies for people enrolled through “an Exchange established by the State,” according to the text of the Affordable Care Act. Only 16 states decided to establish the exchanges.

The IRS issued a regulation expanding the pool of enrollees who qualify for the subsidies."

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AnotherOne
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 12:59:38 PM



nraacct, "Obamacare was just dealt a major loss in court."

And hopefully this is just the opening shots into the ship of ObamaCare.

What is MOST hopeful is that this decision came from the uber-liberal DC court!

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nraacct
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 12:33:05 PM

Obamacare was just dealt a major loss in court.

A Court Ruling Just Blew A Huge Hole In Obamacare
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Passer
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 10:56:30 AM

"There is a bipartisan effort afoot to extend the ACA workweek(past the 29-hour stipulation) to 40 hours --"

Good, fair post mweyant.

I would agree with the legislation. That fix makes sense.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 6:02:29 AM

Passer, it has been against the law for a while (before ACA) for insurance companies to cancel if consumers got sick.

Secondly, Obama did NOT make a "mistake" when he said those things repeatedly. He knew they were false and said them repeatedly. That makes them lies, not "mistakes".

In addition, Obama recently exempted territories from ACA mandates. Why is that? Are they not good enough for ACA or is ACA not good enough for those Americans?
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 4:55:09 AM

ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs

6-24-14
ObamaCare's impact on jobs is hotly debated by politicians and economists. Critics say the Affordable Care Act gives businesses an incentive to cut workers' hours below the 30-hour-per-week threshold at which the employer mandate to provide health insurance kicks in. White House economists dismiss such evidence as anecdotal, but BLS data show that the workweek in low-wage sectors sank to a record low in July — just before the Obama administration delayed enforcement of the employer mandate until 2015.

In the interest of an informed debate, we've compiled a list of job actions with strong proof that ObamaCare's employer mandate is behind cuts to work hours or staffing levels. As of June 23, our ObamaCare scorecard included 429 employers with more than 100 school districts among them. Recently, IBD explained that a big minimum wage hike alongside the employer mandate would add to pressure on employers to cut workers to part-time, complicating the goal of reducing inequality."

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There is a bipartisan effort afoot to extend the ACA workweek(past the 29-hour stipulation) to 40 hours --
House passes bill to change Obamacare’s workweek from 30 hours to 40

4-3-14

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But, govtrack says it has only a 14% chance of being passed by the Senate

H.R. 2575: Save American Workers Act of 2014

"Full Title
To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 30-hour threshold for classification as a full-time employee for purposes of the employer mandate in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and replace it with 40 hours."
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Passer
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 1:31:43 AM

"That doesn't make them more moral nor especially, more right!"

(to be clearer, the "them" is the GOP, obviously, and if not, it is spelled out here)
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 1:06:19 AM

Nst,

To be honest, you have brought up more good points. Nothing in this world is nirvana, and honestly, there are winners and losers and "cost shifting" with this plan. "If you like your insurance no one can take it away from you, period. Seriously???" The fact is, on your last point, people "liked" their substandard plans because they were cheap.

Who doesn't like anything that is cheap? But the reality is, those cheap plans allowed the companies to simply cancel anyone who got sick and if someone ACTUALLY tried to collect on that "much liked" plan, it would be cancelled asap!

What company in their right mind would not cancel a policy in which they were losing money from someone, IF THEY COULD????

It is true that Obama's statement that "if you like your insurance no one can take it away from you, period.", was wrong, and a mistake and he admitted it. But the GOP seems to enjoy Crucifying him on it as much as ancient Romans loved Crucifying their enemies but the GOP does it with more gusto and self righteousness than the Romans ever did!

That doesn't make them more moral nor especially, more right!















[Edited by: Passer at 7/21/2014 1:08:48 AM EST]
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 2:48:14 PM

Passer, lies about ACA??? Do you mean like the average family will save $2500 a year with ACA? Like "If you like your doctor, you can keep them, PERIOD." Lies like "If you like your insurance no one can take it away from you, period." Seriously???
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 4:26:52 AM

Passer 1.

Strawman 0.

You win!
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 2:37:24 AM

"If it's not hurting democrats, why aren't' they talking about it?"

Good point, nst, and the sad answer is, I don't know about "big wheels" but Republicans have generally had bigger balls than Democrats, and probably still do. The Zombie, and Bizzaro World lies about ACA like "death panels, and like the old, cheaper plans where the companies could and did drop you at will, and not cover pre-existing conditions "were better" take time to deflate like most lies from the hysterical do. And Democrats are timid creatures. But the GOP House has tried over 40 times to defeat it, sue Obama etc like spoiled little children who don't understand that throwing tantrums is not the same as governing. To the Tea Party, maybe, they succeeded in shutting down the government for a while, bless their Anarchist hearts, but "Just Say NO!" was not a success for Nancy Reagan, ultimately, and it will never be for a party that dreams of being a majority.

Its been said that one needs leather balls to play rugby; it is also true of politics and that is something the Republicans know and the Democrats must eventually learn. The ACA is less "socialistic" (a zombie lie) than Social Security but the Democrats are too afraid to point that out. Now that the Training Wheels have come off of Obamacare, it is time for the Democrats to either grow a pair or continue to play politics like they are having a Tea Party with their daughters...
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 6:39:37 AM

If it's not hurting democrats, why aren't' they talking about it?
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 8:45:10 PM

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"Democrats received a bit of good news in two Marist/NBC Senate polls today showing Mark Udall in Colorado and Gary Peters in Michigan holding solid, though not especially large, leads. Throw these results into the polling averages, and Democrats appear to be ahead in both states."

+ ObamaCare Helping Dem Candidates +

. Republicans who just got medical insurance under ObamaCare switching to Dem side...
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Champion Author Tampa

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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 8:31:28 PM

Although this article is about 5 months old, I doubt that things have improved much:

"How much does it cost taxpayers to sign up one ObamaCare enrollee? In President Obama's home state of Hawaii, it's $56,819.
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Washington, D.C., meanwhile, received $133.6 million in federal grants to build its exchange, but so far has signed up just 5,090 — for a per-enrollee cost of $26,242
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After $180 million in grants, however, Massachusetts has enrolled only 8,139 in its new exchange — or $22,124 per enrollee. It had expected 250,000 people to buy an ObamaCare plan in the first year.

Of the 14 states that set up their own exchanges, just three — New York, Rhode Island, and Connecticut — have hit their enrollment targets. Eight, plus D.C., are still below 50%. Even Kentucky, which is often cited as a big ObamaCare success story, is just 22% toward its goal.

And these figures could be inflated because some states aren't reporting how many have actually paid. In Vermont, for example, 20% of those who enrolled have yet to pay their first premium. Some states have a much lower payment rate.
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Exchanges in California, Minnesota, Washington State, Oregon and Hawaii face deficits and possible insolvency if they can't find ways to bring in more money."
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