flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 5:01:58 PM
NSB it was a tossup between the wife and I if we wanted to watch a HGTV show about how to watch paint dry or watch a vhs tape of old cartoons.
The watching paint dry won as being more interesting than listening to another speech by Obama.
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 4:41:58 PM
I watched the first few minutes, and turned it off, that was all I could stand listening to him, say basicly the same thing he does every time he opens his mouth. He keeps proving again, and again, just how clueless, and out of touch with the real world he really is.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 2:14:59 PM
Something amiss last night? Or just someone(s) missing?
Three conservative justices absent themselves from SOTU
What did they miss?
Obama’s Most Dishonest State of the Union Address
Perhaps they had advance warning of how bad it would be......
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 1:23:55 PM
"Wow Mark you paint a really bleak picture. Are they sitting around singing songs waiting for someone to tell them what to do? How sad. Maybe one could pick up a axe and sell firewood. One could shovel snow. You know, work. We need ditch diggers too, just saying."
----------------Many of the unemployed, under-employed and unemployable receive numerous welfare benefits - subsidized public/private housing, food stamps, WIC, Medicaid, HEAP, Emergency HEAP, daycare etc.
Many also receive family support, local/private support and/or perform under-the-table jobs/services.
Many receiving unemployment, welfare, or disability don't want to get caught working, plus many don't like hard physical outdoor labor, so you'll rarely see them shoveling snow, shoveling roofs, cutting/splitting/stacking wood etc.
In order to lower their chances of getting caught, many working while collecting tend to work indoors.
Speaking of shoveling snow, in our high unemployment urban areas many residents can't find unemployed local residents willing to shovel sidewalks, driveways and roofs and/or mow lawns, rake etc, so they pay professionals to perform the work.
The last time we had someone knock on our doors looking for a snow shoveling job was 2001.
It's pretty common to see senior residents shoveling, snowblowing, mowing and raking with no help from their kids and grandkids living with them.
Work ethic is something severely lacking in many of the younger generations.
[Edited by: MarkJames at 2/13/2013 1:24:55 PM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 10:19:05 AM
and this is the guy bho picked to be the designated survivor? yikes
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 9:47:08 AM
Tower: "I didn't even watch it. "
I didn't either. I never watch Obozo if I can avoid it. I just read about it later and it's always the same thing. More government and higher taxes are the answers to every question and every problem.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 9:37:11 AM
The highlight of the night was Marco Rubio's response.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 8:11:51 AM
I didn't even watch it.
Had more important things to do.
[Edited by: theTower at 2/13/2013 8:12:21 AM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:23:21 PM
i thought this was supposed to be his speech to - we the tax payers on -
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the state of the union
huh
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:17:33 PM
Lies I caught (although I admit I missed some parts due to work phone calls):
•"The state of our union is strong."
•"Both parties have reduced our deficits, we are halfway there."
•"ObamaCare© is slowing the growth of healthcare costs"
•"I am open to ideas from both parties"
•"We need a tax code that isn't very complicated for small business" (he doesn't mean it)
•"Nothing I suggest tonight will increase our deficit not one dime"
•"Everyone's energy bills are lower than before"
•"I am doing everything I can to speed up energy and drilling permits"
•"Every dollar we invest in early education pays back $7 in later savings"
•"We will continue to attack terrorists that attack America" (Benghazi?)
•"All of our efforts are transparent to the American people and the world"
•"We will do what is necessary to prevent Iran from perfecting a nuclear weapon"
•"We will stand steadfast with Isreal for a real and secure peace"
•"We will maintain the best military that the world has ever known"
•"We must be able to maintain our God given rights" (he doesn't mean it)
•"A girl was shot in Chicago only a mile away from my house" (he lives in Hawaii)
•"We ought to respect the security of other generations" (Why does he keep spending money like a drunken sailor?)
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:10:27 PM
He's about to speak...
Sargeant at Arms
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:44:02 PM
>>Anyone want to make any bets on how many times he will say 'I'?<<
Anyone want to make any bets on how many times he will blame his terrible economy on the Republicans?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:43:41 PM
of course - it's Bush's fault
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:43:11 PM
I75, wow - that's quite a jump in numbers, I just read your link -
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(CNSNews.com) – Since taking office in 2009, food stamp rolls under President Barack Obama have risen to more than 47 million people in America, exceeding the population of Spain.
“Now is the time to act boldly and wisely – to not only revive this economy, but to build a new foundation for lasting prosperity,” said Obama during his first joint session address to Congress on Feb. 24, 2009.
Since then, the number of participants enrolled in food stamps, known as the Supplemental Assistance Nutrition Program (SNAP), has risen substantially.
When Obama entered office in January 2009 there were 31,939,110 Americans receiving food stamps. As of November 2012—the most recent data available—there were 47,692,896 Americans enrolled, an increase of 49.3 percent.
According to the 2011 census, Spain had a population of 46,815,916.
Furthermore, between January 2009 and November 2012 the food stamp program added approximately an average 11,269 recipients per day.
President Obama will deliver his fourth State of the Union address Tuesday evening. Obama is expected to focus on jobs and the economy.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:40:41 PM
between January 2009 and November 2012 the food stamp program added approximately an average 11,269 recipients per day
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:16:26 PM
well - - - he can always talk about - why Sean Lowe on the 'Bachelor' dismissed Tierra.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:16:31 PM
Jd - thats for teh first 20 minutes - what happens if the 'speech' goes longer?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 6:57:51 PM
68 times
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1OILMAN
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 6:09:39 PM
Wow Mark you paint a really bleak picture. Are they sitting around singing songs waiting for someone to tell them what to do? How sad. Maybe one could pick up a axe and sell firewood. One could shovel snow. You know, work. We need ditch diggers too, just saying.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 5:51:29 PM
Anyone want to make any bets on how many times he will say 'I'?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 5:30:54 PM
Time until state of the union address: 3 hours, 28 minutes, 15 seconds.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:29:59 AM
Yet another State of the Union of generalized "focuses" that sounds wonderful (but lack reality and content).
I will...
I will also...
I will direct...
I will task a blue ribbon committee...
Democrats spring to their feet in a roar of applause "that sounds GREAT implement it tomorrow!"
Chris Matthews will wet his pants in excitement
Nothing to see here, Obama is a cardboard cutout President, incapable of doing the right thing for the Country -- only for himself and the Party.
I would throw up if I watched it, I can't take his disingenuous BS any more.
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:48:55 AM
Another way of saying that Mad is there has been a 7.7 million "net" LOSS of jobs on his watch. Uh... and that includes the last 22 months.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:45:20 AM
“Over the next two years, this [stimulus] plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs.”
The President promised great things from the stimulus plan, but as Heritage’s J.D. Foster has said, we have to look at his record. He may have promised 3.5 million new jobs, but he’s 7.7 million jobs in the hole instead.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:44:36 AM
“I pledge to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term in office.”
During his first State of the Union, newly inaugurated President Obama vowed to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Instead, Obama has averaged deficits nearly three times that of his predecessor.
[Edited by: maddog57 at 2/12/2013 10:45:35 AM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:42:56 AM
mj: "Most of the job growth is in low paid industries, many of which have an oversupply of part-timers, temps and floaters working for peanuts with no benefits, little chance for promotion etc."
With Obamacare the part time job will become the norm. Within a few years I suspect that most people without college degrees who do have a job will have one or more part time jobs. Full time employment will be only for those who have a skill that makes them very marketable, or for those willing to do jobs involving danger.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:11:45 AM
In relation to the state of our union, our emolument situation is miserable. What can Obama possibly say to gloss that over that he hasn't said the previous 4 times.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:54:40 AM
Many people will get to see Marco Rubio for the first time tonight.
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:31:40 AM
Job quality is a major issue.
Most of the job growth is in low paid industries, many of which have an oversupply of part-timers, temps and floaters working for peanuts with no benefits, little chance for promotion etc.
Many of these jobs are filled by new workers, teens, 20-somethings and workers that already have a job or two, live at home, or live in households with 2 or more incomes, not job seekers that need jobs to survive.
Many of the middle skills jobs have been wiped out.
Many jobs once performed by 3 or more workers only several years ago are performed by a single higher performing multi-tasking worker with multiple duties.
Unfortunately many of the issues are structural. The only way job seekers will find and keep well paying full-time, long term jobs is to get college/technical educations/certifications, professional licenses, skills, knowledge and experience in high demand growth industries.Even part-time job quality has gone downhill. Many of the part-timers we know often only work 1 or 2 4 hour shifts per week, plus often have weeks with no scheduled or unscheduled on-call hours.
This is why much of our uneducated, unskilled and low skilled population needs numerous handouts to survive - tax credits and welfare benefits, family support, local/private support.We're seeing more and more college educated job seekers applying for unskilled and low skilled jobs as there are few job openings, yet dozens, or hundreds of applicants for every available job locally.
More and more of our workers are commuting more than 100 miles per day as there is little, or no work in their area.
Automation, computerization, communications, self-serviced, specialized tools, specialized equipment, outsourcing, offshoring etc continues to put people out of work.
It's much tougher for many to find/keep jobs as more and more employers of low skilled workers perform background checks, drug testing, DMV checks, web/archive searches, aptitude tests, physical fitness assessments, plus they have probationary periods, engineered labor/safety standards.
----We have a lot of job growth locally in warehousing, distribution, transportation etc, yet much of our job seeking population isn't physically fit enough to work, or doesn't have driver's licenses, clean driver's licenses, transportation etc.
>While many have been out of work for months/years, their physical/mental fitness has really gone downhill, their skills have degraded, plus they haven't kept up with changes.
[Edited by: MarkJames at 2/12/2013 9:32:52 AM EST]
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:54:34 AM
Tower, instead of counting the number of times the word "jobs" is said, try counting how many times he says
"freedom" or "liberty"
Your task will be much easier.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 9:29:11 PM
I got an email with a picture of a hand dryer in a rest room, and on it was a bumper sticker looking thing with a picture of Obama on it, and the words "Please press the button to hear a message from the president".
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 9:02:48 PM
What airfresh says, more hot air at the state of the union.
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:59:21 PM
and jump starting the march toward tyranny!
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:02:57 PM
<<<Obama's State of the Union speech to focus on jobs>>>
Can someone tell him his speeches aren't working? We need action.
<<< "In the six months before I took office, we lost nearly 4 million jobs. And we lost another 4 million before our policies were in full effect.">>>
And there are 5 million people who have LEFT the workforce since Mr Obama took office.
<<<"Those are the facts. But so are these: In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than 3 million jobs.">>>
One key word missing between million and jobs that would make that an accomplishment...... net. Just to cover new entrants into the job market every month you need to create approx 3 million jobs every "12" months not 22. Add in those 5 million who gave up... subtract the 3 million created and you've got over a 5 million net LOSS of jobs just from those two stats.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:57:58 PM
Speedy - dont forget the new folks who entered the jobs market...
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:53:13 PM
Obozo said: "America still has the largest, most prosperous economy in the world"
Translation: "It's no easy job to kill a giant, but I'm trying hard"
Why is it when I hear him talk like that I think of a woman who has "acquired" the keys to her ex-husband's new Porsche?
"I've still got a lot of work to do. There is still a lot of bodywork on this baby that hasn't been dented yet!"
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:34:03 PM
>>Obama: "In the six months before I took office, we lost nearly 4 million jobs. And we lost another 4 million before our policies were in full effect."
"Those are the facts. But so are these: In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than 3 million jobs."<<
So we are still down 5 million jobs, according to Obama.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:28:23 PM
Even the liberals are taking notice
"But it's what comes after the speech that's important. Or, I should say, between this speech and the next one, since jobs and the economy have made regular appearances in Obama's four previous State of the Union speeches, as well. Here are just a few highlights:
2009:
"I know that for many Americans watching right now, the state of our economy is a concern that rises above all others."
"You don't need to hear another list of statistics to know that our economy is in crisis, because you live it every day."
"Now is the time to act boldly and wisely -- to not only revive this economy, but to build a new foundation for lasting prosperity."
"It's an agenda that begins with jobs."
2010:
"This recession has also compounded the burdens that America's families have been dealing with for decades."
"...tonight I'd like to talk about how together we can deliver on that promise. It begins with our economy."
"And after two years of recession, the economy is growing again. Retirement funds have started to gain back some of their value. Businesses are beginning to invest again, and slowly some are starting to hire again."
"...jobs must be our number-one focus in 2010, and that's why I'm calling for a new jobs bill tonight..."
"People are out of work. They're hurting. They need our help. And I want a jobs bill on my desk without delay."
"The only way to move to full employment is to lay a new foundation for long-term economic growth, and finally address the problems that America's families have confronted for years."
"We can't afford another so-called economic 'expansion' like the one from the last decade -- what some call the 'lost decade' -- where jobs grew more slowly than during any prior expansion; where the income of the average American household declined while the cost of health care and tuition reached record highs; where prosperity was built on a housing bubble and financial speculation."
2011:
"Two years after the worst recession most of us have ever known, the stock market has come roaring back. Corporate profits are up. The economy is growing again."
"But we have never measured progress by these yardsticks alone. We measure progress by the success of our people. By the jobs they can find and the quality of life those jobs offer."
"These steps we've taken over the last two years may have broken the back of this recession, but to win the future, we'll need to take on challenges that have been decades in the making."
"Remember -- for all the hits we've taken these last few years, for all the naysayers predicting our decline, America still has the largest, most prosperous economy in the world."
2012:
"We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of Americans barely get by, or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, and everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules."
"In the six months before I took office, we lost nearly 4 million jobs. And we lost another 4 million before our policies were in full effect."
"Those are the facts. But so are these: In the last 22 months, businesses have created more than 3 million jobs."
"No, we will not go back to an economy weakened by outsourcing, bad debt, and phony financial profits. Tonight, I want to speak about how we move forward, and lay out a blueprint for an economy that's built to last..."
And here are the number of SOTU mentions of the word "jobs":
2009: 14
2010: 23
2011: 25
2012: 33
LOL....
And people voted for this guy.
[Edited by: theTower at 2/11/2013 5:28:45 PM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 3:24:55 PM
speed, (chuckles) you forgot d) - al of the above
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 3:21:24 PM
Obama's State of the Union speech to focus on jobs
a) or lack thereof
b) for ILLEGAL aliens
c) that aren't there because of the Republicans
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 3:18:43 PM
It is priority #1 for him....right after 40 other priority #1 items he has listed during his presidency.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 2:49:38 PM
I can't believe his handlers are going to let him make fool out of himself by even talking about jobs again. As if he's been so on top of it.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 2:28:05 PM
Another four years of "focused like a laser on jobs". By now we've figured out that its the end of jobs for middle class Americans.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 2:08:07 PM
cal: " What he says and does is 180 degrees out from reality. To bad so many actually believe his lies. "
Never judge a liberal by what they say; always judge a liberal by what they do.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 1:42:33 PM
FLYBOYUT. You hit the nail on the head. What he says and does is 180 degrees out from reality. To bad so many actually believe his lies.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:34:14 AM
Nice post flyboy.
Of course there are those that will eat his speech up as if its a new meal for them to digest.
But with few exceptions, its just the same meat being served up and that we have heard for years from this president.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 7:29:00 PM
State of the Union Address - more of the same lies
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>>>President Obama says his State of the Union speech will be "focused on job creation." Seems as though we've heard this song before from Obama. And we already know how it ends.
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• January 2009: "My economic agenda ... begins with jobs."
• November 2009: "This is my administration's overriding focus."
• January 2010: "We are going to have a sustained and relentless focus over the next several months on accelerating the pace of job creation, because that's priority No. 1."
• September 2010: "Our No. 1 focus has to be jobs, jobs, jobs."
• December 2010: "My singular focus over the next two years is ... jump-starting the economy so that we actually start making a dent in the unemployment rate."
• January 2011: "My principal focus, my No. 1 focus, is going be making sure that we are ... creating jobs not just now but well into the future."
• November 2012: "Our top priority has to be jobs and growth."
This time around, Obama says he has a "growth agenda." But from what he told his fellow Democrats, he's not only going to recycle his jobs promise Tuesday night, but also offer up the same tired liberal economic policies he's been pushing for the past four years.
Throw more taxpayer money at green energy while sticking it to the oil and gas industry, spend (sorry, "invest") more on education and roads, raise taxes still higher on the rich in the name of fairness, and yammer on about growing the economy from "the middle out."
These policies have already produced the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression. In fact, had Obama's recovery been merely average, the GDP would be $1.2 trillion bigger today, and there'd be 7.5 million more people with jobs.
Under Obama, middle-class families have seen their incomes decline. Millions have fallen into poverty. The income gap is widening.
So why should we expect different results now?<<<
And people wonder why Obama generates such dislike. The man is a liar and charlatan!
Posted in another place but its still true - Obama has no truth in him......
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