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MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,000 Points:1,580,650 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 2:08:03 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse A poll worker voted twice in last November's election. She also helped another person do the same but claims there is no fraud on her part. Article & video here. From the article, "Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.”

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A poll worker voted twice in last November's election. She also helped another person do the same but claims there is no fraud on her part. Article & video here.

From the article, "Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.”

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AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,541 Points:2,898,095 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 8:20:03 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse NickHammer complained: "What about them, AC? Where are all of the fraudulent votes cast by ACORN-registered voters? Can you point to even ONE?" --Did you ever check out the NBC story on this? Or is this simply your "No, no! It's not true, it can't be true" junk again? Do some digging and you'll find that ACORN did register fraudulent voters. However, the overall organization claims it wasn't systemic, and it wasn't the bureaucracy that caused it, it was some rogue workers as individuals. Weren't some punished for that? And again, what about the NBC story where they interviewed people who said they did register multiple times for money? Hmmm??? And then the media even saw multiple registrations, in the same handwriting, with the same address, but using different names. Sorry, Nick. You're wrong..again.
ZennieWA Rookie Author Washington Posts:39 Points:69,230 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 3:57:55 PM Ignore ZennieWA Report Abuse If she has dementia how does she know she really voted twice and didnt just imagine it?
PiqueOil Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:6,199 Points:799,205 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 3:50:42 PM Ignore PiqueOil Report Abuse According to Wikipedia, there are an average of 51 fatal lightning strikes per year in the U.S. In a nation of 310 million people, that means about one out of six million Americans are killed by lightning annually. So far, in the past election there has been one case of proven voter fraud --- the woman who admitted voting twice (and might have even voted up to six times). That breaks down to one person out of 129 million voters. And that means the Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt were wildly off when they said proven voter fraud "happens about as often as death by lightning strike." It happens about one-twentieth as often, as it turns out. We should all be proud that once again, the United States held free, fair and open elections. *** Guitar_Man, Your deep belief in your god shines through your comments once again. WWJD? Why, he'd cheat, of course. [Edited by: PiqueOil at 3/9/2013 3:52:01 PM EST]
Guitar_Man Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:8,526 Points:126,430 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 2:45:34 PM Ignore Guitar_Man Report Abuse One poll worker bragged she voted SIX times...two mail-in ballots and four times during election day. (She was a POLL WORKER so who knows how many others she helped vote multiple times.) Since nothing is being done, I say all us Republicans do the same next election...maybe make it a FAIR election for once!! (I still don't think Obama really beat Romney...something smells awul fishy when town have 100% votes for Obama or have 120% turn-out rates.)
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,915 Points:616,585 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 2:40:51 PM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse A poll worker voting twice should not only be prosecuted but should receive the maximum sentence. The lady with dementia may have been accidental. The poll worker knew what she was doing was illegal.
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,000 Points:1,580,650 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 10:18:07 AM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse streetrider, >>Someone please clue me in how dose one vote twice?<< *** By not having voting laws that properly identify the person who wants to vote. Approximately 40% of the people registered do not vote. In some cases, the dead are not removed from the voting records. It happens all too often. I am sure others can give even more examples how this is done.
streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:16:50 PM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse Someone please clue me in how dose one vote twice? I go to the place designated for my sector of this county, they look up my address and name when I give it to them. Next I have to show my drivers license then they cross me off the list. if you are not on the list you don't vote.
nstrdnvstr Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:36,828 Points:3,980,955 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:07:07 PM Ignore nstrdnvstr Report Abuse mexicomaria, one also has to have ID to exercise their 2nd Amendment right!
nstrdnvstr Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:36,828 Points:3,980,955 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:05:26 PM Ignore nstrdnvstr Report Abuse Cliffisher, so if this person with "dementia" voted twice, maybe she should not be allowed to vote anymore due to her dementia!
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:25,986 Points:3,132,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 8:53:57 PM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse An 86-year-old Minnesota woman says her dementia caused her to vote twice in the 2012 primary election, but prosecutors say they have no discretion in cases of alleged voter fraud
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,915 Points:616,585 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 2:03:06 PM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse One of our biggest problems with fraudulent voting is the use of absentee ballots. In this day of computers, why can't we come up with a way to check absentee ballots against the roles of those that showed up to vote? Once an election is stolen by fraudulent votes, people voting in other people's names or other means then it will suddenly become an important issue. If voting is truly our most important right, then it should be protected as such. Stiff penalties for voting fraud and positive ID.
jeskibuff Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,861 Points:1,444,135 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 1:30:39 PM Ignore jeskibuff Report Abuse mexicomaria said: "what are the objections?" "How are we supposed to cheat if you make it harder for us to do so?" I think that objection comes across LOUD AND CLEAR!
mexicomaria Champion Author Minnesota Posts:24,086 Points:1,351,490 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 12:38:58 PM Ignore mexicomaria Report Abuse I just don't understand the objection to have a picture voter id.... I mean I have a photo driver's lic., a photo Cosco Card, a photo Sam's card, and a photo passport. I think something as important as voting would demand photo id.... what are the objections?
michaelphoenix2 All-Star Author Tucson Posts:666 Points:9,140 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 12:25:12 PM Ignore michaelphoenix2 Report Abuse "[Can you see me pointing?] This district went 100% for Obama. What's the problem with that? We don't need to examine anything..." Every time this comes up it is pointed out how this is easily possible. Go back and read some of the other half dozen threads on this and you will see why.
daylily2009 Champion Author Fayetteville Posts:1,398 Points:634,245 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 12:22:09 PM Ignore daylily2009 Report Abuse naacp thinks no id is the way to go!!
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,691 Points:744,385 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 11:42:38 AM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse Valid picture ID and jail time for voting twice, starting with this "worker".
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,401 Points:2,714,620 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:07:39 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse It's time to require voters to show a valid picture I. D. at their respective polling place.
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,691 Points:744,385 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 2:36:34 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse "Where are all of the fraudulent votes cast by ACORN-registered voters? Can you point to even ONE?" [Can you see me pointing?] This district went 100% for Obama. What's the problem with that? We don't need to examine anything...
jeskibuff Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,861 Points:1,444,135 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 6:52:20 AM Ignore jeskibuff Report Abuse Update on the story: >Richardson told a local television station this month that she voted twice last November. She cast an absentee ballot and then voted at the polls as well. . . "Yes, I voted twice," Richardson told WCPO-TV. "I, after registering thousands of people, certainly wanted my vote to count, so I voted. I voted at the polls." . . Authorities also are investigating if she voted in the names of four other people, too, for a total of six votes in the 2012 presidential election. . . Richardson is one of 19 people suspected of illegal voting by the Hamilton County Board of Elections in the last election.< It's certainly good to hear they're investigating this. I hope she does some prison time if found guilty!
sgm4law Champion Author Maryland Posts:18,784 Points:2,374,630 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 3:27:43 PM Ignore sgm4law Report Abuse "Serfdom - heck no. Those who pays has the say." So you are ok with your vote only counting a fraction of what your neighbors counts?
NickHammer Champion Author Maryland Posts:16,160 Points:2,576,960 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 2:51:12 PM Ignore NickHammer Report Abuse >>Gocat - it is an indication of the endemic dishonesty in many liberals.<< Typical right-wing BS that right-wingers say to feel better about themselves. >>Is this because Democrats much more capable and experienced in committing Voter Fraud? Democrats could offer to teach Republicans how to do it but they would be turned down.<< More right-wing BS. The RNC hired Strategic Allied Consulting, whose Republican-operative owner had been accused of the same voter registration fraud crimes in the past - only registering Republicans, tearing up Democrat registration forms, etc. - that occurred under his new company. The Republicans knew exactly what they were doing when they hired his company. When SAC got caught, the Republican Party feigned shock and dismay and "fired" them. >>OK, what about the voter registration frauds perpetrated by ACORN in some 11 states (might have been more)?<< What about them, AC? Where are all of the fraudulent votes cast by ACORN-registered voters? Can you point to even ONE?
mudtoe Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,467 Points:1,285,340 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 2:27:56 PM Ignore mudtoe Report Abuse Bell: "Then the vote is the most important thing in the world. " I think the deal is that the right to vote for your favorite democrat candidates as many times as physically possible in an election is the right that the left considers the most important thing in the world. mudtoe
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,915 Points:616,585 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 1:46:36 PM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse Voting is more like theft of candy. Got it. Voting isn't important enough to protect unless of course, you feel that a few people are unfairly being disenfranchised by checking their ID. Then the vote is the most important thing in the world.
BlackGumTree Champion Author Virginia Posts:18,439 Points:1,459,665 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 1:16:16 PM Ignore BlackGumTree Report Abuse gocatgo - "Black, the above link covers a case in Harrisonburg, Va." And the link below allegedly for a case in Indiana is actually the same link as the one above for Harrisonburg, Virginia. And before you crow too loudly, Republicans paid Strategic Allied Consulting to collect the applications and the charge stems from one of their workers throwing applications away because it missed the deadline for turning them in and didn't want to get it trouble. The applications were processed and the voters were not denied the chance to vote. Voter registration fraud is more difficult in Virgina because this state does track party affiliation so collector are unlikely to know which party an applicant favors. Put that in you pipe and smoke it for awhile! That's a whole lot different than a Democrat poll worker deliberately voting twice for a candidate she favored. Is this because Democrats much more capable and experienced in committing Voter Fraud? Democrats could offer to teach Republicans how to do it but they would be turned down. [Edited by: BlackGumTree at 2/11/2013 1:21:58 PM EST]
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,541 Points:2,898,095 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 6:14:17 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse OK, what about the voter registration frauds perpetrated by ACORN in some 11 states (might have been more)? NBC Nightly news even showed ACORN's fraud in Ohio. They were offering liquor, cigs and money to have folks multiple register, which is also illegal. (and a fraud unto itself). We sure do need voter ID laws. Here in LaLa land, my understanding is that you must show some ID the FIRST time you ever vote, but never thereafter. I think that's a shame. Now, in my neighborhood, I know the poll workers personally - they're my neighbors. But so what? I still should have to show photo ID.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,783 Points:1,007,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:22:39 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse See gocat - thats just more proof we need to tighten up on the voter laws... :-0 :-)
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,000 Points:1,580,650 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 3:19:09 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse michaelphoenix2, >> its nothing like a a bank robbery and closer to a candy bar theft --- << *** But those who are doing it are giving their ok to take from others (this could be from ALL viewpoints) to selfishly benefit. The person in the video is so indoctrinated that she thinks there is nothing wrong with what she has done and helped others to do. Based upon what she admitted, she has cancelled out two people votes, possibly more when the voter registration for her neighbors have the same hand writing. Stealing candy benefits one and wrongs another. Voter Fraud harms ALL who vote responsibly.
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:15,623 Points:2,526,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 1:37:54 PM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse Fly, here's some GOP voter fraud for you. Bell, "it's ok because it's only a few cases", where did I say that? I am all for convicting cases involving voter fraud. Un fortunately for everyone is there are not enough cases to change the election results which cons fail to acknowledge. Black, the above link covers a case in Harrisonburg, Va. Here's one more case in Indiana GOP voter fraud.
BlackGumTree Champion Author Virginia Posts:18,439 Points:1,459,665 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 7:02:52 PM Ignore BlackGumTree Report Abuse michaelphoenix2 - "Bell---- its nothing like a a bank robbery and closer to a candy bar theft ---" Its not even worth as much as a candy; more like the value of a single drop of water hitting the roof of your house. A single drop of water hitting the roof of your house will not cause any damage. Nor will two drops or three. Even a hundred drops of water on the roof of your house will not be a problem. So you shouldn't be concerned when it is pouring down rain in a heavy downpour. After all each individual drop does not do any damage. And knowing that you will never need to replace the roof on your house, right? And that will save liberals like you a lot of money. [Edited by: BlackGumTree at 2/9/2013 7:05:55 PM EST]
michaelphoenix2 All-Star Author Tucson Posts:666 Points:9,140 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 5:14:51 PM Ignore michaelphoenix2 Report Abuse Bell---- its nothing like a a bank robbery and closer to a candy bar theft --- Is it wrong , yes Is it illegal, yes Should their person committing the crime be punished in full accordance with the law, absolutely Is it worth placing the candy bar rack behind a locked glass case and have an employee escort the buyer to the register to make sure that no further candy bars are stolen..... no The store owner would have less customers because it becomes more of a hassle to buy a candy bar. Its the same thing with voting the harder you make it the fewer people vote. We should be encouraging as large of a turnout as possible not trying to depress it. @flyboy ---- Ive seen some dumb ideas.... please tell me your not serious... a system like that we would only see pro wealthy candidates that would vote more cash to the top 1% and vote for more tax on the bottom 99% and we would see the rise of a true ruling class with a everlasting majority vote. The rich would be insanely richer while the poor would be left to fight for the scraps.
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,915 Points:616,585 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 5:01:09 PM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse So the contention that I'm getting is that it is okay because it is only a few votes. Not enough to swing the election. Then is stealing a few thousand out of a bank vault all right? It isn't enough to put the bank out of business. Where exactly is the line that changes it from a non-issue to a crime in your mind? One person, one vote.
Cliffisher Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:25,986 Points:3,132,650 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 4:01:21 PM Ignore Cliffisher Report Abuse "Gocat - it is an indication of the endemic dishonesty in many liberals. How many instances of conservative voter dishonesty have been shown?" He may need some cheese with his whine. Republican doctor and his wife voted last year in Waukesha and up north where they own a cabin. Okay, that is three. Only 1.49875 million to go. ROTFL
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,783 Points:1,007,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:43:12 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Serfdom - heck no. Those who pays has the say. Why should those who contribute little to nothing determine how the labors of the workers be confiscated to keep the people who dont pay in semiluxury. Our rights are supposed to be balanced by willing acceptance of duties and responsibilities. If folks are not willing to take up the duties and responsibilities then why should they demand the rights? Those who are not willing to pay for the govt should not determine what the govt spends other peoples money on.
sgm4law Champion Author Maryland Posts:18,784 Points:2,374,630 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:32:33 PM Ignore sgm4law Report Abuse "Maybe bring a notarized copy of your latest 1040 form and you get one vote per each thousand dollars in Fed taxes you pay." Welcoming back a new age of serfdom, are we?
mudtoe Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:9,467 Points:1,285,340 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:38:00 PM Ignore mudtoe Report Abuse flyboy: "My opinion (for waht its worth) is that the argument that voter ID is an attempt to disenfranchise voters is hogwash." Exactly. All these people who would supposedly be disenfranchised have enough IDs to buy booze, cigarettes, and get food stamps and welfare benefits; so obviously they aren't lacking in the proper documentation. mudtoe
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,783 Points:1,007,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:31:04 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Gocat - it is an indication of the endemic dishonesty in many liberals. How many instances of conservative voter dishonesty have been shown? Now am I saying all folks who lean liberal are like that - not by any stretch of the imagination am I saying that. But it is true that there are more instances of such warped thinking on the left and it seems to be the left who do not wish to implement the means to stop such abuses. My opinion (for waht its worth) is that the argument that voter ID is an attempt to disenfranchise voters is hogwash. Its a desire to have honest voting. Our system of government is in serious danger if enough people lose faith in fair elections.
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:15,623 Points:2,526,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:06:48 PM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse 2 voters voted twice did not sway the election. Show me another 1.5 million votes, then get back with me. Everything else is whine.
Daurel Veteran Author Indiana Posts:309 Points:32,770 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 9:51:10 PM Ignore Daurel Report Abuse She should be convicted with a class "A" felony so she never gets to vote again.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,783 Points:1,007,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 7:52:46 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse AZmike that is just the tip of the iceberg. There are thousands of bad votes cast. Why do you think the dems are so dead set against voter ID. As far as I'm concerned it should be hard to vote. Maybe bring a notarized copy of your latest 1040 form and you get one vote per each thousand dollars in Fed taxes you pay. Maybe make it so only honorably discharged vets can vote or maybe they get an extra vote for every year they served.
regulate_now Champion Author Indiana Posts:6,626 Points:1,009,050 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 7:46:07 PM Ignore regulate_now Report Abuse Twice, huh?
regulate_now Champion Author Indiana Posts:6,626 Points:1,009,050 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 7:46:05 PM Ignore regulate_now Report Abuse Twice, huh?
jeskibuff Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,861 Points:1,444,135 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 5:22:39 PM Ignore jeskibuff Report Abuse Lock that fraudster up! And she's a poll worker? The handwriting on the other ballots in her family is similar and some of them "accidentally" voted twice, too? She needs to do some jail time. Maybe Obozo can pardon her in 2017.
michaelphoenix2 All-Star Author Tucson Posts:666 Points:9,140 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 4:44:03 PM Ignore michaelphoenix2 Report Abuse No one is arguing that voter fraud doesnt happen ever. What they are arguing is that the extremely small handful of double votes that occurs is not worth disenfranchising thousands of voters through draconian laws.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,783 Points:1,007,635 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 4:33:30 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse She feels she did nothing wrong???? What kind of convoluted thinking is this?
mexicomaria Champion Author Minnesota Posts:24,086 Points:1,351,490 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 4:06:00 PM Ignore mexicomaria Report Abuse Is anyone surprised....? I certainly am not.
theTower Champion Author Indiana Posts:13,248 Points:478,140 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 3:51:45 PM Ignore theTower Report Abuse I'm sure this is the only person thats ever done this in all of history. No one else would ever vote for Obama more than once. One extra vote would hardly had swayed the election. Nothing to see here.
nstrdnvstr Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:36,828 Points:3,980,955 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 3:47:12 PM Ignore nstrdnvstr Report Abuse Since voter fraud is rarely prosecuted, there is no real risk in jail time, is there?
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:11,803 Points:1,194,890 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 2:11:58 PM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse Richardson insists she has done nothing wrong and promises to contest the charges: “I’ll fight it for Mr. Obama and for Mr. Obama’s right to sit as president of the United States.”