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gocatgo

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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 3:22:23 PM

Do you believe right wing rhetoric is going too far?
I say, Yes. The tone has gotten so bad I believe a right wing nut will try to assassinate President Obama in the next 4 years aided and abetted by hate mongers.

The pot is being stirred on a daily basis by right wing extremists. There are too many people that believe Obama is going to take away their guns. There are those that believe Obama's stance for Roe vs Wade is a stance for legal murder. There are people that see Obama as ignoring the Constitution. We also hear right wingers calling Obama an anti American Communist/Marxist. Way too many on the right don't believe Obama is a legal American citizen. Then we have threats for states to secede from the Union. Some con Christians see Obama as the Anti Christ. In short many extremists on the right believe Obama is the Enemy.

Right wing extremists need to take a long look at their rhetoric and what the consequences could be.
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theTower
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 4:33:46 PM

"There are too many people that believe Obama is going to take away their guns."

Take?
Nah....
The government will never do that.
Just make it extremely difficult and a pain in the butt to own one.

Something criminals are never burdened with. Only us law abiding folks.
Criminalizing people for exercising their guaranteed Constitutional rights is a very slippery slope.

[Edited by: theTower at 2/5/2013 4:34:31 PM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 4:11:36 PM

mj: "Another mind reader?"


Well, you have to understand that in order to be "officially" black skin color is not enough. You also have to have the correct leftest mindset in order to be eligible for the benefits minority status, which include:



1). The ability to accuse white people of discrimination.

2). The ability to use the "N" word without repercussions.

3). The ability to confer protection and give credits to be used later against charges of discrimination to white people who pay you money or otherwise support you.


Clarence Thomas does not have the above privileges.


mudtoe
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 3:58:29 PM

>>You sound like George Costanza befriending his exterminator to try to prove to his boss that he's not a racist.<<
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Another mind reader?

Good thing we have them around. Otherwise, we'd think we were open to electing anyone who could get the nation's problems solved. :-)
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NickHammer
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 3:42:15 PM

>>Well, I CAN'T STAND OBAMA, and I detest him as a person as well as his policies because he's a liar and is deliberately trying to damage America. However, if Clarence Thomas were to ever run for President he would get both my money and my vote in a heartbeat. How does that fit with your tidy little racial theory?<<

You sound like George Costanza befriending his exterminator to try to prove to his boss that he's not a racist.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 1:45:31 PM

mud...you just muddied the waters....LOL. I am still waiting for why the left disliked Bush so much. They will never touch that one either because it throws their theory off.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2013 9:49:47 AM

SS: "A lot of right wing rhetoric is really just racism. When somebody says 'I can't STAND Obama!" that is more than disagreement with policy. They are saying they don't like him personally. "


Well, I CAN'T STAND OBAMA, and I detest him as a person as well as his policies because he's a liar and is deliberately trying to damage America. However, if Clarence Thomas were to ever run for President he would get both my money and my vote in a heartbeat. How does that fit with your tidy little racial theory?

mudtoe



[Edited by: mudtoe at 2/5/2013 9:53:24 AM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 9:34:00 PM

Yes the right needs to stop saying things like “Democrats WANT dirty air and water” Conservatives need to stop running campaign ads that show democrats pushing an old lady in a wheelchair off a cliff. They also need to stop making faults accusations’ that the Senate leader didn’t pay any taxes for the last ten years. They should stop saying that Obama was responsible for a woman dying of cancer.

Yes the right has gone way too far.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 8:56:20 PM

SemiSteve: "A lot of right wing rhetoric is really just racism. When somebody says 'I can't STAND Obama!" that is more than disagreement with policy. They are saying they don't like him personally."

So....what was the excuse for why people said that about Bush? I always have to ask that question because whenever someone says something bad about Obama this idiotic statement seems to come out yet Bush was treated just as poorly...and even worse by the press...but nobody ever said why that was. So...what is your reason for hating Bush?
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 8:51:25 PM

Wow...this sounds like the same garbage you lefties cried wolf about after Obama won the first time. How many attempts were actually made on his life during the first 4 years?
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 6:40:43 PM

gocat's OP: <<<"Do you believe right wing rhetoric is going too far?
I say, Yes. The tone has gotten so bad I believe a right wing nut will try to assassinate President Obama in the next 4 years aided and abetted by hate mongers.>>>

Who do you think you are to infer that any group of people (in this case, republicans) would try or even support the assassination of Obama? Racism is generalization of a grouping of people and pre-judging them sight unseen as having certain traits. You, my friend pass this test!

<<<"The pot is being stirred on a daily basis by right wing extremists.">>>

Try to be honest with yourself here, it is indeed stirred daily by BOTH extremes of the political spectrum. Spare me the democrats, the victims bit.

<<<"There are too many people that believe Obama is going to take away their guns.">>>

No, there are many people that feel (and see) Obama taking actions, ignoring the legislative body as well as the constitution, while also completely ignoring other reasoning for violent shootings, such as desensitization to violence via video games and movies.

<<<"There are those that believe Obama's stance for Roe vs Wade is a stance for legal murder. There are people that see Obama as ignoring the Constitution. We also hear right wingers calling Obama an anti American Communist/Marxist.">>>

LOL, are you stating that people are not entitled to their opinion?

<<<"Way too many on the right don't believe Obama is a legal American citizen.">>>

Who's harping about that? Haven't heard this for awhile, until now, is this an issue for you?

<<<"Then we have threats for states to secede from the Union. Some con Christians see Obama as the Anti Christ. In short many extremists on the right believe Obama is the Enemy.">>>

I am starting to get the impression that your definition of an "extremist" is anyone that has an opinion that differs from your own. If this is the case, that's your problem, not mine or anyone else's.

<<<"Right wing extremists need to take a long look at their rhetoric and what the consequences could be.">>>

Point taken, and perhaps you ought to take a good, hard, long look at your own.

[Edited by: EZExit at 2/4/2013 6:42:15 PM EST]
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 6:38:39 PM

flyboy: "Regardless, her comment reinforces my belief that it is always a mistake to choose a major ending in the word "studies.""



If you take a quarter and scratch over the word "studies", what shows up underneath is the word "propaganda".


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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 6:30:34 PM

Yep they went too far ----
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>>>Campus Reform is reporting that Chick-fil-A, the popular fast food restaurant chain, has now been dubbed a "symbol of hate," by a professor at Eastern Illinois University (EIU). Lisa Moyer, who teaches in the Family Studies Department at EIU, apparently made the comment with a straight face, although some have suggested that the term "straight face" reinforces heterosexist oppression. Regardless, her comment reinforces my belief that it is always a mistake to choose a major ending in the word "studies."

Moyer made her strangely uninclusive remarks in response to questions about a faculty resolution at EIU. The resolution proposed expelling a Chick-fil-A restaurant from campus in order for the university to be more inclusive. Because of the franchise's alleged opposition to homosexuals, some faculty decided that getting rid of them would promote diversity by producing complete uniformity of thought on issues related to sexual orientation. Talk about queer reasoning!

Moyer, in typical liberal fashion, has projected her hatred of Chick-fil-A onto the restaurant itself and has characterized their company logo as a symbol of hate. I suppose it's now in the same category as a burning cross or a Nazi swastika. In her recent interview with Campus Reform, she elevated hypersensitivity to a Zen art by arguing that her efforts to censor this "symbol of hate" are justified because Chick-fil-A makes a lot of students, particularly in the LGBT community, "feel uncomfortable.” (See www.CampusReform.org for additional details).<<<

There are lots more examples of left wing lunacy if you want them!
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 6:15:49 PM

On Feb 4, 2013 4:19:55 PM, noseatbelt wrote:

>mean while, you ignore the rhetoric and extremism coming
>from the left

Like Maxine Waters (D-CA) slipping up and calling for nationalizing the oil companies? Just imagine... one huge oil company that combines the best features of the DMV and the Post Office!
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 6:11:27 PM

On Feb 4, 2013 4:00:14 PM, SemiSteve wrote:

>A lot of right wing rhetoric is really just racism.

As Obama said it: clinging to guns, religion (as they interpret it), xenophobia, and objecting to free trade (Ross Perot's giant sucking sound).

>When somebody says 'I can't STAND Obama!" that is more than disagreement
>with policy. They are saying they don't like him personally.

I like a lot of black people but there's just something about Obama. Maybe that he follows the secularist Democrat line on social issues.

>Two things stand out.

>1. He is the first black President.

Obama is actually the first mixed-race president, as Romney would have been the first polytheist to occupy the White House.

Back when the Obamas were considering getting Bo (a Portuguese Water Dog, essentially a black poodle, and a gift from Ted Kennedy) Obama commented maybe they would get a "mutt like me." I even checked the news to make sure Obama said what I thought he said. (He did.)

>2. There has been a vast increase in hate groups since Obama
>was first elected.

There has been a vast increase in economic dislocation since Obama entered the White House, but more than half of the damage can be laid at the feet of Bush-43 economic policies. Hate groups flourish in bad times.
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:25:05 PM

SemiSteve, >>When somebody says 'I can't STAND Obama!" that is more than disagreement with policy. They are saying they don't like him personally<<
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I see you are now into mind reading. How did you arrive at your conclusion?
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:19:55 PM

mean while, you ignore the rhetoric and extremism coming from the left, I guess you never have heard some of the stuff that we hear from the likes of pelosi, reid, biden, and yes even your hero Obama.and once again, obamniacs forget the things that people on the left said about bush, remember the pictures of bush as the devil, and that was one of the mild ones. as far as a right wing nut trying to assassinate Obama, don't forget about the far, far, left people that don't think Obama is going far enough left. Obama has managed to po a lot of people on both sides.

As someone else said below, just another case, of the pot calling the kettle black.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:16:53 PM

>>Some con Christians see Obama as the Anti Christ.<<

I think that is Hillary. ;)
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MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:14:45 PM

gocatgo, >>...There are people that see Obama as ignoring the Constitution. ...<<

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Just a small example:

'Obama Demands Court Uphold His "Right" To Ignore Constitution'

[Edited by: MahopacJack at 2/4/2013 5:17:31 PM EST]
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wbacon
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:14:09 PM

no, not far enough
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:07:55 PM

>>He is the first black President.<<

Do you remember when they used to say that about Bill Clinton?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:00:14 PM

A lot of right wing rhetoric is really just racism. When somebody says 'I can't STAND Obama!" that is more than disagreement with policy. They are saying they don't like him personally.

Two things stand out.

1. He is the first black President.

2. There has been a vast increase in hate groups since Obama was first elected.

It is unacceptable to come out and say one does not like having a black President. Anyone who feels this way knows such statements would be a non-starter. So they have to find other ways to express their feelings:

"I can't STAND Obama!"
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Michiganian
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 9:04:47 AM

Of course, yes.
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PopcornPirate
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 8:57:51 AM

Another topic of....
The POT calling the KETTLE ...BLACK
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KansasGunman
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 7:59:58 AM

Topic: Do You Believe Right Wing Rhetoric Is Going Too Far?

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Like as if this topic isn't?
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LTVibe
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 7:51:28 AM

Right wing rhetoric, just like left wing rhetoric, is mostly all bark and no bite.

The small minority of disturbed individuals who really want to kill the president are generally too cowardly to actually make good on their threats.



[Edited by: LTVibe at 2/4/2013 7:54:45 AM EST]
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ministorage
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 9:23:53 PM

Before 2012, I hadn't voted for a Republican president since the '80s.

I long for the days of Hubert Humphrey, Scoop Jackson and Zell Miller. Those gentlemen were more like today’s GOP. Today's Democrats--and the DNC--are more like the 60’s Communist party. Today, the Democrat Party is unrecognizable to me. The party moved--further left. Like a disabled boat on the sea, some don't realize how far they have drifted, further left, IMHO.

I ended my very long relationship with the DNC in 2010.

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ministorage
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 8:57:59 PM

gocat: "We also hear right wingers calling Obama an anti American Communist/Marxist."

Unless one wishes to distort meanings, he is fascist (lower case).

Communism and fascism both fall under the umbrella of socialism, and Obama's beliefs and actions are a combination that is all over that umbrella.

IMHO
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 8:01:18 PM

gocat: "We also hear right wingers calling Obama an anti American Communist/Marxist."


Count me among those. I believe Obama is the first President in history who is deliberately trying to harm America. No doubt about it.


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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:40:45 PM

I'd say both sides come across sounding like morons far too often.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:08:49 PM

gocat, that has been the right wings way for years.

Most people call it fear mongering or always in the attack mode.
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Tru2psu2
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 3:44:17 PM

Left wing extremists need to take a long look at their rhetoric and what the consequences could be.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 3:34:12 PM

Is going?
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