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LTVibe

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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 3:38:04 PM


"...cars made by the Detroit Three are largely red state cars, popular with the same people, many in the heartland, who voted Republican in the last presidential election."

"Imports, by contrast, perform far more strongly in the blue states, where the majority of votes were cast by the Democrats."

Red States, Blue States, and Auto Sales

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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 12:22:01 AM

"GM, Ford, Chrysler sales rising - are most of the buyers Republicans?"

I find this observation rather fascinating. Thank you for sharing this with us, LTVibe!
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 7:48:12 PM

AZmike - why do you think I like living in the desert? ;-)
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michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 2:56:31 PM

Driving a 3/4T diesel truck in a major metropolitan city like NY or NJ would be wildly Impractical. The size alone would make it a pain to drive. Im not sure how much your big truck would enjoy the constant starting and stopping of city driving either.

[Edited by: michaelphoenix2 at 2/2/2013 2:57:04 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 12:48:00 PM

You mean the effete eastern folks are wishing they could drive my 3/4T Diesel truck all the time?
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 12:34:36 PM

now that looks like a case of class envy.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 10:51:39 AM

Cliffy - if NYC had the population density of Utah it might be a fit place to live.
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LTVibe
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 9:36:19 AM

I support your right to buy whatever you want. My concern is for the pro-union, pro-bailout Dems who appear to have double standards:

Do as she says, not as she drives: DNC chairwoman doesn't drive American

"The chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) appears to drive a foreign car, despite criticizing Republican presidential candidates for supposedly favoring foreign auto manufacturers."

"Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the chairwoman of the DNC, ripped into Republican presidential contenders who opposed President Obama's 2009 bailouts for General Motors and Chrysler..."

"But according to Florida motor vehicle records, the Wasserman Schultz household owns a 2010 Infiniti FX35, a Japanese car whose parent company is Nissan, another Japanese company. The car appears to be hers, since its license plate includes her initials."



[Edited by: LTVibe at 2/2/2013 9:38:19 AM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 9:25:09 AM

"Kia's Georgia (another red state!) plant is non-union. That's a big reason why 'Kia cars are reasonably priced'."

Not exactly.

The 1st Kia we bought was in 2008, BEFORE that plant was opened. That car was made in South Korea and shipped here (and I know this because it was expressly stated on the Bill of Lading on the sticker and we bought it new). And even with shipping and tariffs, the car was STILL reasonably priced (and it still runs great too, 5 years later, completely paid for).


[Edited by: RNorm at 2/2/2013 9:26:27 AM EST]
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LTVibe
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 9:17:59 AM

>>"Kia also makes cars right here in the US, and stands behind their vehicles for 100,000 miles or 10 years. No US manufacturer comes close to that and the Kia cars are reasonably priced as well. Both my wife and I drive Kias and the nice features in her car that were standard in the Kia were ridiculously priced upgrades in the comparable cars from the Big 3..."<<

Hey, give the Big 3 a break! Those 'ridiculously priced upgrades' help pay for the generous UAW wages and benefits that Democrats support!

Kia's Georgia (another red state!) plant is non-union. That's a big reason why 'Kia cars are reasonably priced'.



[Edited by: LTVibe at 2/2/2013 9:20:12 AM EST]
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 8:48:13 AM

What most people ignore in this Rah Rah Red state stuff is that most of the blue states have urban areas that rely on mass transit.

Now if places like New York City had the population per square mile of Utah, more people would buy cars and trucks.

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 8:36:59 AM

"The fact is the 'Big Three' build many fine vehicles for every taste and purpose. Why aren't all those 'blue' state Democrats buying them up?"


Probably because the cars made by other manufacturers offer a better value?

Kia also makes cars right here in the US, and stands behind their vehicles for 100,000 miles or 10 years. No US manufacturer comes close to that and the Kia cars are reasonably priced as well. Both my wife and I drive Kias and the nice features in her car that were standard in the Kia were ridiculously priced upgrades in the comparable cars from the Big 3...
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LTVibe
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 4:59:58 AM

>>So what your saying is that companies that have a heavy interest in making large pickup trucks, SUVs, etc are doing betting in rural areas comprised mainly of farmers and other people that use these type of vehicles.<<

What about all the SUV's and highly-rated full size trucks like the Toyota Tundra and Nissan Titan? Many of the import brands are even built in the 'red' states: the Tundra in Texas and the Titan in Mississippi.

>>While companies that make a lot of smaller fuel efficient vehicles designed for short point to point commutes are doing better in areas where people make lots of short point to point commutes in heavy traffic are doing better?<<

Ford Focus? Chevy Cruze and Volt? How about the Fusion and Malibu hybrids?

The fact is the 'Big Three' build many fine vehicles for every taste and purpose. Why aren't all those 'blue' state Democrats buying them up?

Could it be that those no-good Republicans have greater loyalty to American products and concern for American economic interests than many Democrats?

;-)

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LTVibe
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 8:53:19 PM

>>"You just blew the premise of this topic right out of the water!"<<

I had a different premise in mind.

I was hoping someone would note the irony that those who are known to harshly criticize the auto industry bailout and the UAW are the ones financially supporting the bailout and the UAW with their purchases.
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 7:03:04 PM

"So what your saying is that companies that have a heavy interest in making large pickup trucks, SUVs, etc are doing betting in rural areas comprised mainly of farmers and other people that use these type of vehicles."

You just blew the premise of this topic right out of the water!
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 5:08:32 PM

Kind of tough to hall 20 bales of hay in a Honda Accord.
LOL
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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 4:07:11 PM

they priced me out of buying a new vehicle years ago.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 4:02:24 PM

"So what your saying is that companies that have a heavy interest in making large pickup trucks, SUVs, etc are doing betting in rural areas comprised mainly of farmers and other people that use these type of vehicles.
While companies that make a lot of smaller fuel efficient vehicles designed for short point to point commutes are doing better in areas where people make lots of short point to point commutes in heavy traffic are doing better? "


Excellent summation! Bingo and Boom!!!
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michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 3:42:25 PM

So what your saying is that companies that have a heavy interest in making large pickup trucks, SUVs, etc are doing betting in rural areas comprised mainly of farmers and other people that use these type of vehicles.



While companies that make a lot of smaller fuel efficient vehicles designed for short point to point commutes are doing better in areas where people make lots of short point to point commutes in heavy traffic are doing better?



You don't say?

[Edited by: michaelphoenix2 at 2/1/2013 3:43:02 PM EST]
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