oilpan4

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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 2:14:22 AM
"a .357 mag is a VERY Powerful weapon. If you are not knowledgeable & strong enough to handle a gun as that. You stand a better chance in injuring yourself then someone attacking you".
This might be true with a 454cassual or 500S&W. Recoil with those rounds is obscene and I see fair potential for shooter injury. I started shooting 357 with I was 16 and weighed maybe 140lb back then. I found my step dads Colt python fairly easy to handle. The 357 was easy enough to handle to make me want to upgrade to a heavy framed ruger 44mag when I turned 21. Lesser 44mags with maximum power hunting ammo can make most guns jumpy and uncomfortable to shoot, the same goes for smaller lighter 357s.
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AC-302

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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 11:34:03 PM
The hoopla will die down soon - a couple months maybe. Think about it - Obama is already trying to shift the focus to immigration reform. Why is he letting this good crisis of Sandy Hook go to waste? Because he knows he'll never get the votes to pass Feinstein's proposal.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 2:00:33 PM
""""a .357 mag is a VERY Powerful weapon. If you are not knowledgeable & strong enough to handle a gun as that. You stand a better chance in injuring yourself then someone attacking you."""" - FAIL: Lady Shoots .357 Magnum
OUCH!!!!!!!!!
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PopcornPirate

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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:22:50 AM
a .357 mag is a VERY Powerful weapon. If you are not knowledgeable & strong enough to handle a gun as that. You stand a better chance in injuring yourself then someone attacking you.
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jdhelm

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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 12:13:50 AM
Ruger is coming out with a new pistol in honor of Obama. It will be called the "Union Worker." It doesn't work and you can't fire it.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 12:01:03 AM
I went to a gun show this weekend and happened to find the exact 9mm I have been looking for. I got it at a good price because the dealer had refused to jack up his prices. another dealer said he was out of them and it was 250 more than I paid.
On the way home I stopped at one on the gun shops in my part of town to pick up an extra magazine, some 9mm and 308 for my rifle. Couldn’t get any of the ammo or a spare magazine. The sad part is the magazine is only an 8 round one not covered by the proposed ban. I don’t even want it for the extra 2 rounds. I just want the finger extension.
It’s getting ridiculous.
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WES03

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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 9:01:15 AM
Not surprised.
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worryfree

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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:23:14 PM
Dirty Harry was shooting in a police competition and commented that a fellow officer's .357 magnum was a good weapon but he preferred the 44 magnum. I have vainly been looking for a Ruger .357 to buy- everything gun is in very short supply. Amazing what panic buying will do. Also when something IS in stock the price has doubled or tripled.
[Edited by: worryfree at 1/27/2013 11:24:06 PM EST]
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AC-302

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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:22:51 PM
Jeskibuff, normally I would remind you not to mention that "H" guy, as the forum rules say not to. Normally. However, in this case, I'd like the fool gun grabbers and anti-gun fools here to Google the Nuremburg laws on firearms ownership.
Check this out on gun laws in pre-war Germany, and how they got implemented in the US!
The above is by an interesting group called "Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership". I've met Aaron Zelman, their chairman, and when I heard him speak, I'd say he was right on.
OH, and for SemiSteve, I'd like to post this clip from the linked article: "The Nazis inherited lists of firearm owners and their firearms when they 'lawfully' took over in March 1933. The Nazis used these inherited registration lists to seize privately held firearms from persons who were not "reliable." Knowing exactly who owned which firearms, the Nazis had only to revoke the annual ownership permits or decline to renew them."
This is why I am against registrations.
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jeskibuff

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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 7:07:48 AM
YDraigGoch said: "carrying a six shot handgun does not make her a hypocrite."
No, but other parts of her plan expose her as one, as well as other facets, such as AC-302's post about her having one of around 6 of the CCW permits in a city of some 800,000 people!
>Gun registration is phase one of a much larger plan for total disarmament of US citizen
Gun registration is only the first step in Feinstein’s grand scheme, of course. Following in the footsteps of Adolf Hitler, another famous gun grabber from the pages of history, Feinstein’s actual plan is as follows:
Step 1) Mandate nationwide registration of all firearms, but lie to the people and tell them they can keep their guns as long as they are registered.
Step 2) Stage another mass shooting, then invoke more fake tears on television while demanding that all guns must now be turned in “for the children.” And besides, we already have the database of all gun owners, so we know where the guns are!
Step 3) The initial calls for gun control will only target semi-automatic firearms, but with each additional staged shooting, the call will go out for even more guns to be confiscated: Bolt-action rifles, pump-action shotguns, and at some point even black powder rifles.
Step 4) Once the population is entirely disarmed and unable to resist, power-hungry people like Feinstein will engage in a full roll-out of total government domination as we’ve seen time and time again throughout history. Those who resist will be shot. Those populations that are “undesirable” will be “cleansed.”<
[Edited by: jeskibuff at 1/27/2013 7:09:15 AM EST]
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EZExit

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 10:21:16 PM
Diane Feinstein (D-California) says we should ban assault weapons so those with criminal intent can't get their hands on them... Great thinking. Next, I propose we ban illegal drugs so addicts can't get them!
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AC-302

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 12:20:18 PM
Jack - I was about to say .357? Try again.. Harry Callahan carried, as you correctly point out, a Smith & Wesson model 29 in .44 magnum.
Now, it is absolutely TRUE that Diane Feinstein carries a gun and has a gun license. Now, here's the FURTHER HYPOCRISY - Feinstein's CA license was issued in SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY! If you look on the CA AG's website, you will see the number of CCW permits issued by San Fran. The number that I last saw when I was there was 6 (six)! Yes, only 6 people in all of San Francisco have been issued carry permits.
Now, I get that Feinstein was in city hall when Harvey Milk was assassinated. Fair enough. I'm sure she's afraid, and shaking in her boots every time she steps out of her house of office. Fair enough. But what makes her so special? Is it only OK for elite, hypocritical liberal idiots to carry handguns concealed? Why is it OK for her, yet it's bad for an average guy who wants to keep himself safe and from being a crime victim? NO WAY.. Feinstein is no better than you or me or anyone else. It seems to me as a liberal hypocrite, we need to publicize this - shout it from the rooftops, if necessary.
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MahopacJack

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 11:55:12 AM
johnnyg1200, >>By the way, I need to make a slight correction to the post. Dirty Harry carried a S/W model 29 .44mag. I watched the movie last weekend<< *** I stand corrected. From Wikipedia bio of 'Harry Callahan' (Dirty Harry), "Callahan's signature weapon is a Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44 Magnum revolver, which he uses in all of the films. The gun's prominence in the films instantly popularized it. The character states the use of a "Light Special", .44 Special loads (a reference to the fact that .44 special cartridges can be fired in .44 magnum handguns), that he loads himself because it gives him "better accuracy and control in a gun this size". He also states that it's like using Wadcutters in a .357 Magnum. Both of these instances show Callahan's erudition in the arena of high-power handguns. The .44 magnum cartridge was developed by Elmer Keith by loading .44 special cartridges with very heavy bullets and amounts of smokeless powder. These heavy loads could, and can, destroy some light-framed .44 special handguns, and so when Remington chose to produce cartridges specifically for this caliber, they made sure the new .44 Magnum cartridges were so long that they would not fit in .44 special revolvers."
For some reason. the bit about the .357 Magnum stuck with me.
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EZExit

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 10:01:40 AM
Diane is not a hypocrite, she only wants the general public disarmed, not the government or its officials. "Do as I say and not as I do".
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oilpan4

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 12:00:21 AM
Progressive hypocrite = Me not surprised the least bit.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 10:58:55 PM
Let’s not limit the outing of the anti-gun hypocrisy to Dian Feinstein.
Who could forget the anti gun Democrat from Illinois who was caught trying to get an illegally owned hand gun on to an airplane at Chicago O’Hare? It is not being investigated if the permit to carry the weapon was gotten illegally through connections he had with a security company that has contracts with the city.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 10:40:53 PM
“”””The "varmint" breaking into your home probably has a buddy with him.”””Make that a chicken coup or a goat pen.
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SE3.5

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 10:03:55 PM
"Why does anyone need ten rounds to kill a varmint?"
The "varmint" breaking into your home probably has a buddy with him.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:56:19 PM
“”Why does anyone need ten rounds to kill a varmint? Never been squirrel hunting or shooting prairie dogs, huh? So you can shoot ten...””
In my case its opossums and raccoons. I usually find more than one of the little beggars and I’m not the best shot sometimes.
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regulate_now

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:48:10 PM
Why does anyone need ten rounds to kill a varmint? Never been squirrel hunting or shooting prairie dogs, huh? So you can shoot ten...
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:39:45 PM
"""Why does anyone need more than ten rounds to kill a varmint? """ . Is that the best defense of Dian you could come up with?? She is carrying one of the most powerful had guns ever made, but is going after a .22 rifle. What difference does the number of round make? NONE! In fact I could reload her .357 faster than my .22
[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 1/25/2013 9:40:33 PM EST]
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sissurf

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:32:16 PM
I don't know Hiram 615, "why does anyone need more than ten rounds to kill a varmint?" Does it really matter to you?
Have you ever touched a gun yourself? How knowledgeable are you when it comes to guns? Have you ever owned a gun or been in the military?
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traffic cop

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:31:25 PM
The libs change vocabulary and nomenclature to suit their purposes. They're getting hip about the fallacy of the term "assault rifle," and are now talking about "military-style rifles."
What makes it "military-style?" That it has plastic parts and is colored black? That it has a rail for a a scope?
What if I took a Bushmaster and painted it in Sesame Street colors--would it no longer be a "military-style rifle?"
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Hiram 615

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:26:31 PM
"My .22 varmint rifle qualifies as an assault rifle under the 1994 law. It can hold more than ten rounds."
Why does anyone need more than ten rounds to kill a varmint?
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regulate_now

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 9:17:53 PM
YDraigGoch, she wants to ban more than assault rifles and she has always shown an anti-gun flare- that makes her a hypocrite.
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johnnyg1200

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 8:53:38 PM
“”””She is trying to ban "assault" rifles. Since when is a 357 Mag REVOLVER an assault RIFLE?”””
I knew she had a hand gun I just didn’t know what type. This more than proves her ignorance or hypocrisy. My .22 varmint rifle qualifies as an assault rifle under the 1994 law. It can hold more than ten rounds. She would ban this while carrying a .357 mag. Personally I would rather be shot with a .22 than a .357mag. The magnum is much larger and has far more power behind the round. In fact in a lot of jurisdictions the police are not allowed to carry the .357. Why does Dian need a weapon that even some police officers are not allowed to carry?? By the way, I need to make a slight correction to the post. Dirty Harry carried a S/W model 29 .44mag. I watched the movie last weekend
[Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 1/25/2013 8:54:59 PM EST]
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MahopacJack

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 6:03:07 PM
YDraigGoch, >>It only gives some little people an excuse to use a big word and impress themselves.<<
*** From CNN, "Feinstein's measure would stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacture of more than 100 specialty firearms and certain semi-automatic rifles, as well as limiting magazines to 10 rounds or less, she said. Not all of the weapons in the bill meet the technical definition of assault weapons."
'nuff said?
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YDraigGoch

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 2:40:58 PM
She is trying to ban "assault" rifles. Since when is a 357 Mag REVOLVER an assault RIFLE?
I too totally disagree with DiFi. Trying to ban assault rifles makes her wrong. But carrying a six shot handgun does not make her a hypocrite.
It only gives some little people an excuse to use a big word and impress themselves.
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regulate_now

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:09:21 AM
Maybe Diannne should go in the Army and volunteer for combat duty?
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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 11:06:58 AM
And this suprises us --- why?
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