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sissurf

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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 2:18:36 PM



Benghazi Hearing

Clinton: 'What difference at this point does it make?'



[Edited by: sissurf at 1/23/2013 2:22:53 PM EST]
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:19:42 AM

This is spot-on, except (IMHO) for the praise for Ron Paul. Rand Paul yes, Ron Paul NO!
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:00:21 AM

nstrdnvstr said: "So what Clinton is really saying is "What difference does it make" if we lied to the voters about what happened! Let's figure out what happened and fix it."

I think it's more like: "So this is just another instance of failure out of the Obozo administration. You're surprised?? Did you expect anything but incompetency? Brace yourself for 4 more years. This is just one of many screw-ups...you've seen many before and you'll see many more before he's gone...why get bent out of shape over this one?"

It's wishful thinking to think that these dolts would want to figure out what went wrong and try to prevent it from happening again. Let's just acknowledge that problem solving is one area in which they've proven to be highly incompetent.

[Edited by: jeskibuff at 1/31/2013 7:01:18 AM EST]
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 6:15:13 AM

naaaa, EZ, I caught your sarcasm - no problem, I just posted my comment for another gb, who knows who he is, as he's been hitting me hard lately.
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 11:34:25 PM

Easy does it, JD! You missed the sarcasm in my previous post. :)
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:53:35 PM

I have to agree with Clinton's assessment on the hearings, what difference did it really make?

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perhaps because you might not care as much as the family cares, or as much as "we the people of the constitution" care?

apparently it doesn't matter to some, while it does to others - who care.
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:46:13 PM

It makes a lot of difference. Lives were lost & it should not be covered up to make the president & her look good. They need to be held accountable for what they have done.
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:28:08 PM

Now that Clinton appeared and testified, (not that any fact finding occurred, just honors given by dems and roasts by repubs), Benghazi can be ignored and forgotten, the four lives lost remembered only by family members, and perhaps a crocodile tear or two when politically required.

I have to agree with Clinton's assessment on the hearings, what difference did it really make?
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:11:32 AM

If you have not learned anything about this administration it is a "take no responsibility at all cost" approach!
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:56:26 AM


Wanting to fix the problem rather than own up to BEING part of the problem is nothing short of conflict avoiding.

The left models such weaselly behavior which is why they are proud of Hillary's response.
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:16:38 AM

So what Clinton is really saying is "What difference does it make" if we lied to the voters about what happened! Let's figure out what happened and fix it.

Well we already know what happened, The ambassador asked for more security and was turned down, even after an earlier attack, and the Red Cross and the Brits pulled out of Benghazi due to perceived danger there.

If she runs for president, I hope someone brings up that she said "What difference does it make" that we whole-heartedly lied to the American people because we wouldn't protect our ambassador.
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:03:34 AM

3 minute video on those talking about it
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 7:30:00 PM

JDH, is anyone talking about the unanswered distress calls which went on for many hours. Sent from the consulate

Earlier there were reports of U.S. military leaders who ordered emergency rescue operations at the time, but those leaders were immediately RELIEVED of COMMAND, by orders from DC. Specifically one of the Admirals with the U.S. Fleet in the Mediterranean

They should be hanged. The administration and anyone who obstructed the rescue operations - all the DC flunkies, goons, apparatchiks, and winged-monkeys - they should all be hanged. But instead, they'll be promoted
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 7:07:26 PM

What difference does it make?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 6:50:51 PM

It is an excellent link and he was on Fox News this morning saying those comments, his comments lasted just under 5 minutes, and he nailed the hard question/comments that the sneate hearing danced around - and that the liberal pussyfoot main stream media won't go after - thereby doing their part in sweeping this under the administration's rug.

You know dayum well that if it had been Chelsea Clinton who was the US Ambassador, it would be a far different approach - however, as Howard Wasdin said, the "so-called" fear that the Clintons and Obamas say they face every day, are totally different than what Navy Seal Howard Wasdin and his seal team faced in Mogadishu and what the 4 Americans faced in Benghazi.

Everyone who claims to be an American Citizen, should be pressuring Congress, the Administration, and Clinton to get to the bottom of all the lies and omissions they've perpetuated.
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 5:50:01 PM

The arrogance, of both obama, and the clintons, heck most liberals in washington, will be the down fall of our country.
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 5:46:43 PM

Both of these disasters involved a Clinton.

>>Howard Wasdin, who survived the battle at Mogadishu and went on to write “SEAL Team Six: Memoirs of an Elite Navy SEAL Sniper,” joined Fox and Friends this morning.

Wasdin discussed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s handling of the Benghazi attack, saying it “looks like she took a play or a page out of her husband’s playbook, which is not to give what’s asked for.”

He continued, “In Mogadishu […] we asked for armor, but weren’t given the armor. I lost friends in that battle. Now the SEALs in Benghazi, I think it’s well-documented now, that there was a desperate cry for help going out that wasn’t heeded.”

“What the Clintons or the Obamas will never understand is my dangerous, complicated world is different from theirs. I’ve lost friends in combat. I’ve been wounded in combat,” he stressed.<<
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:17:39 PM

Howard Wisdan, navy seal talks about benghazi and the clintons
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:15:58 PM

I see the link is no longer working, copy and paste this link:

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http://foxnewsinsider.com/tag/howard-wasdin/
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Lucchese
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 1:21:19 PM



Of course! ... "What difference does it make."
Rodham-Rodham is completely correct

It makes no difference. That's why they lied for several weeks ... an organized campaign of calculated lies

It makes no difference. They can easily prevent any future attacks without ever knowing what happened last time

It makes no difference

The Malignant DC-Empire knows best
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:15:30 AM

4 min 56 second msg on: did Hillary take a page out of Bill's playbook?
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:22:17 AM

She sounded like she still had brain damage.
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xrdc
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 8:09:00 AM


Hillary comes across as being very sincere.

Like when she pointed out the "vast right-wing conspiracy" trying to take down her husband.

Sincerely wrong.

[Edited by: xrdc at 1/29/2013 8:09:29 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 9:31:38 PM

It matters a lot Hillary - you lied and we want to know why?
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>>>An old-time trial lawyer once said, "When your case is weak, shout louder!"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton shouted louder when asked about the Obama administration's story last fall that the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. ambassador's quarters in Benghazi, Libya, was due to an anti-Islamic video that someone in the United States had put on the Internet, and thereby provoked a protest that escalated into violence.

She shouted:

"We had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Students of propaganda may admire the skill with which she misdirected people's attention.

But those of us who are still old-fashioned enough to think that the truth matters cannot applaud her success.

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There is no point in the administration saying that they did not have all the facts about the attack immediately. All the facts may never be known.

But the real question is:

Did you have even a single fact that would substantiate your repeated claims that some video led to a protest in Benghazi that got out of hand and led to the attack?

Interestingly, Hillary Clinton herself was not featured in this campaign, even though as secretary of State she was a key figure.

Hillary was not about to create video footage that could come back to haunt her if she runs for president of the United States in 2016.

In a larger context, the Benghazi attack showed that you cannot unilaterally end the "war on terror" or the terrorists' war on us, by declaring victory.

For years, the Bush administration's phrase "war on terror" was avoided like the plague by the Obama administration, even if that required the Fort Hood massacre to be classified as "workplace violence."

But, no matter how clever the rhetoric, reality nevertheless rears its ugly head.

Once the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi is seen for what it was — a highly coordinated and highly successful operation by terrorists who were said to have been vanquished — that calls into question the Obama administration's Middle East foreign policy.

That is why it still matters.<<<

I hope the American people dont forget - It matters that the President and Secretary of State lied. Teh Clintons seem to have a looooooong history of lying out their teeth.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:43:28 PM

It makes a lot of difference. The point is, Mrs. Clinton lied; she has lied before, and she continues to lie now.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 6:20:41 PM

What difference at this point does it make if we didn't find any WMD in Iraq?

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xrdc
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Sorry, ydraig.

Your version of what is important is as narrow as Clinton's.

There is much more to the story than the Obama administration lies at the time of the event.

I would not want to work for this administration in any capacity, let alone risk my life for them.

What a waste of good people.

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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 6:01:29 PM

OK. Time to put the cowardly lies to rest.

What difference does it make was not the message

“It is our job to figure out what happened and to prevent it from ever happening again.”

But figuring out what happened is secondary to the raging right wing fanatics. Who cares what happened if they can get a shot at Clinton.

Prevent it from happening again?

What a bunch of hooey. GET CLINTON. Make sure Obama does not happen again. THAT is the REAL goal of people on the right. The tragedy is nothing more to them than a political tool to twist to their advantage.

Some have gone so far as to say that Clinton said the deaths of four Americans made no difference

“With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans! Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and to prevent it from ever happening again.”

When liars dominate the conversation, we ALL lose.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 4:11:12 PM

To bad Clinton and Obama were not at Benghazi that day!!!!!
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 11:21:09 AM

clinton and obama think they are above it all!!
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jdhelm
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Gman, what a fantastic idea, it was there all along, a "gun free zone", why the heck didn't we all think of this sooner, duh. If the gun free zone works at the whitehouse, it should certainly work at every embacy, police department, school and on and on.

and fb, you are right, at least they caught that "movie of the year" writer and put the son-of-a-gun in jail for his part in breaking the law on 1st amendment rights (good thing all the other Hollywood movie makers are still exempt from arrest because of their movies - whew, keep the $$money$$ coming to the dnc coffers).

brilliant ideas
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:47:26 AM

flyboy, but at least they have the person that made that video that had NOTHING to do with the attack in jail! The ones that carried out the attack? They are still on the loose, but you know, “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?!”
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 1:31:09 AM

Silly Republicans....the obvious Democrat solution to the embassy attack is to just proudly make them all "Gun Free Zones"

What a ginormous waste of time asking HRC ANYTHING these days....if nobody in the lame-stream-media called her out for the 400-700 FBI files on her and Slick's political enemies ("found" in the White House) in 1996 they sure-as-shoot ain't about to start, now!

Oh, look, Dianne Sawyer is leading the charge for the "Hillary 2016" nomination!

Imagine the media uproar (which would've been deafening) if Laura Bush has assembled 400-700 FBI files on Democrats!

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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 10:59:00 PM

It matters a lot -
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>>>The hearing last week was a fact-finding mission: Lawmakers charged with oversight of the State Department gathered to ask the secretary of state — for the first time — what went wrong, and to find out, if possible, the cause of the deadly blunder. More, they wanted to hear from the secretary herself just why the administration had said for so long that a video caused an impromptu protest that led to the death of the U.S. ambassador.

Asked during a Senate hearing why they had given out faulty information for so long, Mrs. Clinton grew angry and, with her voice rising, he hands flailing, said: “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?!”

And that, in a nutshell, sums up the frightening Democratic mindset. The administration had buried the matter for months in an internal investigation: No one from the White House to the State Department would comment on what happened, turning away queries with the simple: “It’s under investigation.” And they weren’t about to start explaining now.

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So, from her perspective, there doesn’t need to be any investigation into why the administration said what it said. It’s like a child breaking a lamp, lying about it to his parents, and then saying, “Look, we could go on and on about who said what about breaking the lamp, but fixing the lamp now is really all that’s important — let’s move on.”

And that is terrifying. The secretary of state said simply, “The ends justify the means.” The Obama administration had lied about what happened in Benghazi to help secure a second term for the president, buried the murder of Americans in a private investigation, then, when finally questioned, said, “What difference does it make!?” what we said way back then.

The tactic is, of course, how Democrats operate. They feel that what they are doing is morally superior; thus, however they can achieve their goals is above question or reproach. In fact, in this case, they can lie about it — bald-faced — and then dismiss lawmakers’ questions with an indignant huff.

It is, as we know, exactly how the Clintons operate. Bill Clinton lied for weeks and months over his sexual dalliance with an intern only a few years older than his daughter — even under oath — and Democrats decried the probe as a witch hunt. Remember when Mrs. Clinton made $100,000 through spurious cattle futures contracts? Of course not: By the time it all came around, the Clintons said, “Oh, that old stuff?” Or the time the Clintons announced they had suddenly found papers demanded by investigators for years? And don’t even ask about Vincent W. Foster Jr.

This is what’s coming in 2016. A politician running for president who need not answer questions from anyone. And that truly is horrifying.<<<

It matters a whole lot - why didnt she do her job? Why didnt she know what one of her ambassadors was saying and calling for more security? Why did she and the Obama administration try to lie and hide what happened? Why was it more important to spend a ton of money one new electrice cars for the embassy in Paris than it was to attempt to keep other ambassadors adn their fellow workers alive? Why does Hillary just try and blow off wht happened?

It matters a whole lot what happened before during and after and why. Who didnt do their job and why?
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:57:29 PM

We might have to get a count going on the number of days since Benghazi and the truth still not being known.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:27:40 AM

>>It would appear to matter to at least one film maker who is sitting in prison.<<

Just another example of freedom of speech in this country.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 10:25:24 AM

there is a difference between truth and honor vs. positive.

perhaps people could find more positive in 'anything' if hillary and all of washington (all of them) could find truth.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:53:34 AM


It would appear to matter to at least one film maker who is sitting in prison.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:51:33 AM

MiddletownMarty, "The Benghazi hearings are over, and the GOP failed in its attempt to embarrass Mrs. Clinton and got spanked by her instead. There's no more meat to be had."

Is that because she doesn't get embarrassed from her failures? She DID certainly get angry when called on her failure to protect our ambassador when he asked for more protection.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:38:17 AM

I've copied my recent post from a topic in the Christianity Forum. Perhaps you'll find something positive in it.

"It would help if more Christians in any given country would turn to God alone as their source of supply, wisdom, and protection. I don't mean the superficial trappings of external religion that is mere pretense, but rather the real thing... honest, proceeding from a renewed heart.

"Reading scripture... all of scripture... prayerfully; personal quiet time alone listening to God; secret prayer in one's closet; silent prayer in one's workplace; self-examination to see whether one is in the faith, for example."
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:23:54 AM

chelsea clinton killed by terrorists, check that, by a movie in benghazi, wait by a , does it matter
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 9:22:04 AM

TV Station news claims bho watched as they were killed
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"Fraudulent" means "involving deception", so it's certainly an appropriate term to use here. My correction did not involve a spelling error at all, but rather your claim that YDraig said something he plainly did not say.

In case you're interested, most of the errors you make are malapropisms and not spelling errors. "Chess mate", for example, should be "check mate."

YDraig's mentioning Fox doesn't imply that he turned to Fox. I don't watch Fox, yet I know that Fox carried the Benghazi hearings.


Hiram and I seem to agree about a great many things. On the other hand, YDraig and I have diametrically opposed opinions about banning guns and even had something of a heated exchange about the matter. I wouldn't say I answer for either.


Finding negative things about you is between you and the Holy Spirit. When I respond to your posts, it's because I take issue with something you're written in them. It's not that I find fault with you personally, it's that I find fault with what you've posted and I'm rebutting that post.


Ninth commandment -- Thou shalt not bear false witness. I hope I don't have to tell a Christian what that means.



My posts here are all public. If you find fault with what I've written, go ahead and post your rebuttal. Threats to embarrass me will prove fruitless. I freely admit that I am greatly flawed and sinful. No one needs the grace of God more than I.

The Benghazi hearings are over, and the GOP failed in its attempt to embarrass Mrs. Clinton and got spanked by her instead. There's no more meat to be had.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 1/27/2013 9:21:22 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 11:51:04 PM


"condone fraudulent statements"

It's a good thing you are not a police officer!
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"We all saw the whole thing on the news, including FOX. Why try to tell us something we all know is a lie?"

Well you do have a point there marty. Seems to be you are right in your observation for once. You finally got me and my many spelling errors throughout these threads. I see many other people having spelling errors, but yet you never correct any one else, just little old me.

I still find it strange that YDraigGoch would even turn to Fox at all. I guess if one doesn't get enough information from their local TV stations, Fox news is the next best thing. Chess mate!

Let me ask you something marty, why are you always answering for Hiram and YDraigGoch?

And why is it you find everything negative about me and not one thing positive?

I rather just talk about links we find and any thing in the news, but for some reason you like to ruffle my feathers.

How about explaining that 9th Commandment, who is that addressed to, like as if, I didn't know better?!

I'll put money on it, that you are hard up when it comes to saying any thing positive at all. Since you are listing my faults would you like me to share some of yours in public?

How about adding some real meat to this topic, Marty, that would be a real nice change for once.

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 10:33:26 PM

"We all saw the whole thing on the news, including FOX..."

He didn't say Fox was the only newsworthy station carrying the story. He said that the story was seen on the news INCLUDING Fox. But you already knew that and decided to twist what he said.

YDraig isn't my "buddy", but that is no reason to condone fraudulent statements about what he said.

Ninth commandment.

[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 1/26/2013 10:34:47 PM EST]
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 10:19:47 PM


Marty I quoted your buddy exactly how he worded it.
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 10:01:18 PM

"So strange to hear, YDraigGoch, that the only news worthy station covering the whole event of, Hillary on Benghazi, was FOX, huh?!"

YDraig didn't say that at all. Ninth commandment.
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"We all saw the whole thing on the news, including FOX. Why try to tell us something we all know is a lie?"

So strange to hear, YDraigGoch, that the only news worthy station covering the whole event of, Hillary on Benghazi, was FOX, huh?!

Even stranger to hear that you tuned in also.


[Edited by: sissurf at 1/26/2013 9:58:38 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 9:37:22 PM

chelsea clinton for the next amb to benghazi
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 3:32:15 PM

circumstances like Benghazi don't build character - they display it, and this administration and his cabinet certainly are displaying theirs
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