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101Speedster

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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 12:16:12 PM

Or should democrats in Congress just do their job?

How House Republicans would defuse debt ceiling

Congress is tasked with writing a budget for the United States of America. Since Obama has been in office, Congress has not done what they are required to do. There is no excuse. Democrats had control of both houses of Congress. Should they continue to get paid?

Why don't democrats want a budget? Is Obama afraid that he can't live on a budget like the rest of us?

Why does Obama want to keep kicking the can down the road?

Do you think that Obama and Congress, our government, should have a budget like the rest of us?
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michaelphoenix2
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2013 4:05:01 PM

btw if you go back to the first page of this thread you can see where i predicted what would happen.



Both chambers passed their own budget resolution. This fulfilled the part of the no budget no pay bill. Now neither side are not allowing it to go into negotiations and both bills have stalled. However they both still get paid.


Its really not hard to predict how congress will act in any situation. All you have to do is imagine the easiest way to do something with the most minimal effort involved all the while making it look like you were doing something in the first place.
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Panama19
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2013 9:04:14 AM


Yes.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2013 12:05:57 AM

Still no budget?

Congress still getting paid?

President still on vacation?
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2013 7:06:17 AM

Turn on the money machines!
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 11:25:51 PM

Did Obama write a budget yet that democrats (and/or Republicans) are willing to support or pass yet?

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 6/2/2013 11:26:19 PM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2013 11:37:39 AM

Less than $12 billion until we hit the debt ceiling AGAIN!

That's about six more days.

Will we extend the debt ceiling higher or will we finally learn to live on a budget? Wait, we don't have a budget.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2013 10:25:50 AM

Almost everyone here says that there is no such thing as subsidies to Big Oil.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2013 8:50:00 AM

I didn't see anybody posting anything specific about oil subsidies being a hot issue on this thread so I was confused by your comment...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2013 12:43:53 AM

What do you mean "How's that?"
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2013 10:13:25 AM

"You have now discovered, Weasle, that subsidies for Big Oil is a very sensitive topic around here."

How's that?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2013 12:26:42 AM

You have now discovered, Weasle, that subsidies for Big Oil is a very sensitive topic around here.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 4:35:50 PM

"Ask Weasle. He is the one that posted the quote."

Use the link.

"How about just "eliminate all subsidies" PERIOD?"

That has the potential of costing jobs. Black-and-White definitions don't make for good policy.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 6:12:56 PM

Ask Weasle. He is the one that posted the quote.
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 2:42:50 PM

What subsidies are those, Speed? The same ones for "Green" manufacturers?

How about just "eliminate all subsidies" PERIOD?

[Edited by: teacher_tim at 4/5/2013 2:46:07 PM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 2:18:45 PM

Yes, eliminate subsidies for oil and gas companies.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 10:58:27 AM

Nothin'? What, too many facts?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:52:32 PM

"In each of his three previous budgets, the President identified on average more than 150 terminations, reductions, and savings, totaling nearly $25 billion each year. These cuts ranged from eliminating subsidies for oil and gas companies that hardly need to be propped up to saving millions of dollars by leveraging technology to make Treasury transactions paperless and more efficient. While recent administrations have seen between 15 and 20 percent of their proposed discretionary cuts approved by the Congress, the Administration saw 60 percent of its proposed discretionary cuts become law for 2010. The 2012 Budget proposed nearly $25 billion in discretionary terminations and reductions; Congress reduced these programs by $23 billion, 92 percent of the requested reduction."

"The Budget Control Act that the President signed into law in August will generate approximately $1 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years through the use of discretionary spending caps. Meeting these caps requires reducing the overall discretionary spending level for the second straight year. In fact, compared to 2010, discretionary spending has decreased by $42 billion or 4
percent. To meet these caps, it will take not only eliminating ineffective and duplicative programs, but also cutting worthy programs that the Administration would otherwise fund were it not for the tight fiscal environment. This section highlightssome of these reductions."

The President’s 2013 Budget is built around the idea that our country does best when everyone gets a fair shot, does their fair share, and plays by the same rules. We must transform our economy from one focused on speculating, spending, and borrowing to one constructed on the solid foundation of educating, innovating, and building. That begins with putting the Nation on a path to living within our means – by cutting wasteful spending, asking all Americans to shoulder their fair share, and making tough choices on some things we cannot afford, while keeping the investments we need to grow the economy and create jobs.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:16:04 AM

4 years and still no budget.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 11:44:20 PM

Apparently, they do.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:54:32 AM

>>they don't have to threaten it's already the law....<<

Where is that, wbacon?
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 4:58:12 PM

they don't have to threaten it's already the law....
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 3:53:35 PM

"I was listening to Rush today and he was being falsely blamed for talking bad about federal workers."

so he was saying he was being falsely blamed? I would consider the source before making any conculions on that one... Might want to independantly verify that before you agree with it.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:13:56 PM

Is it any surprise that Congress would not vote for the "no budget, no pay" bill?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 10:12:00 AM

NO NEW TAXES!
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 8:50:24 PM

>>It is going to hurt. Federal workers could start getting pink slips.<<

It's funny. I was listening to Rush today and he was being falsely blamed for talking bad about federal workers.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 9:47:18 AM

It is going to hurt. Federal workers could start getting pink slips.
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 9:35:22 PM

Absolutely. Encourage Congress to actually do something. Idea, let's let them work(I know, it would mean they'd have to DO something to maintain their 'integrity' that Nancy is so enamoured of) from home. They'd accomplish just as much and the gov't can save all that money.
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 8:12:37 PM

As rjhenn discussed in another thread, it isn't so much about whom I like as it is whom I dislike less. Unlike him I can't bring myself to vote for an Independent - yet.

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 2/20/2013 8:13:17 PM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 4:26:39 PM

I do/did not like Obama, Bush, or McCain. Well, I liked Bush Jr. and McCain at first, but then they lost their way.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:25:08 PM

"Which candidate did you vote for in the last presidential election, Weasle?"

I'll do you one (three) better;

2012 - Obama
2008 - Obama
2004 - Bush
2000 - Bush

I was leaning towards McCain in '08 until we got 2 weeks past the Palin nomination...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:35:19 AM

Which candidate did you vote for in the last presidential election, Weasle?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:20:04 AM

"Must be easier for those outside of the party to see. LOL"

More truth to that than you know. It is all about perspective and it is hard to have any when you are surrounded by the noise (which is why the GOP is starting to take a long, hard look at itself when analyzing why they lost this election).
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 9:33:37 PM

>>Seems more like a building frustration within the party. Where there is smoke, there is fire...<<

Must be easier for those outside of the party to see. LOL
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:54:21 PM

NO NEW TAXES!
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 11:46:44 AM

"Sounds like sour grapes from a Republican that just wanted to sell out to Obama and go along with tax increases."

Seems more like a building frustration within the party. Where there is smoke, there is fire...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:16:43 AM

Sounds like sour grapes from a Republican that just wanted to sell out to Obama and go along with tax increases.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 7:16:50 PM

>>Their own party refers to them as 'chuckle-heads'...<<

"You're joking. I've never heard that."

Really? I have even supplied links before. Google 'Republican Rep. Steven LaTourette' and '40-50 chuckleheads'. Should be pretty easy to find.

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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 10:34:28 AM

The law requires that the president write a budget every year.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 8:31:58 AM

I'd just LOVE to hear the reasoning behind NOT producing a budget...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 7:50:01 AM

>>Their own party refers to them as 'chuckle-heads'...<<

You're joking. I've never heard that.
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 8:44:37 PM

Should cut pay 100%
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 8:03:44 PM

"Weasle, you act like the Tea Party controls the Republican Party."

They definitely hinder the GOP from negotiating with the Dems to create good legislation. Their own party refers to them as 'chuckle-heads'...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 10:50:44 AM

Weasle, you act like the Tea Party controls the Republican Party.

>>Or are you just waiving the white flag?<<

No, I do not like socialism.

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 2/13/2013 10:51:49 AM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:34:06 AM

"If the New York Times says it, it must be true."

You don't agree? Or are you just waiving the white flag?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:09:06 AM

If the New York Times says it, it must be true.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:19:02 AM

The Tea Party has extreme views on entitlement programs such as Medicare, SS, etc. that most GOP members do not support.

"And when Mr. Paul and his Tea Party supporters espouse “constitutionally limited government,” they argue that much of the New Deal, as well as social programs like Medicare that were enacted later, were a gross violation of the founding document. Those ideas are a hard sell in a general election, even to Republicans."
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 9:54:16 AM

Approx. time until the United States of America begins to default on its debts: 3 days.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:55:26 AM

Weaslespit, "Yes, currently the GOP is pushing for more cuts than the Dems (with the Tea Party pushing for extreme cuts that is holding the GOP hostage from meaningful negotiations)..."

Exactly which proposed cuts are "extreme"?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 12:35:22 AM

Approx. time until the United States of America begins to default on its debts: 4 days.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:07:30 AM

Approx. time until the United States of America begins to default on its debts: 5 days.
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