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flyboyUT

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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 10:00:10 PM

How is he doing here anyway?????
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>>>Last week marked a milestone of sorts: It's been an entire year since President Obama's Jobs Council last met. Say, wasn't this the president who repeatedly promised to "focus like a laser" on jobs?

Obama's failed jobs "laser" has been dropped. In its place is a "laser-like" political focus on gun control, the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, anything that distracts the public. That explains why he hasn't asked his "Jobs Council" to meet.

Indeed, his policies appear designed to kill job creation in America. Don't believe it? Just look at the data.

Officially, some 23 million people don't have regular work. While official unemployment has dipped below 8%, the real unemployment rate — the one that counts discouraged workers and those who'd like full-time jobs but can't find one — is 14.4%.

Yes, we know, this is a tired litany. And yet, have we become as a people so inured to Obama's failure that we no longer take note of it?

Worse, do we just do nothing, letting Obama's ruinous Keynesian experiments take their course?

During Obama's first weeks in office in early 2009, hopes were high. At the time, he promised that, if Congress passed his $830 billion stimulus right away, by December of 2012 unemployment would be 5.2%.

Well, guess what: it's 7.8%.

That's failure enough. But it's far worse than even that. Today, we are still 4 million jobs below the pre-recession peak of employment. Just 460,000 jobs total have been created during Obama's tenure.

At the current rate of 151,000 new jobs a month with about 120,000 new entrants into the workforce each month, it would take, oh, until about 2024 just to get back to the our pre-recession peak in employment.<<<

Hey maybe if he gives some more speeches adn runs up the tab some more for that big bird he likes to use so much that will give folks some jobs anyway. The people drilling for the oil to convert to jet fuel will be dong fine.....
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 3:59:19 PM

THE HAIRCUT

Blessed are those who can give without remembering and take without forgetting.

One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, 'I cannot accept money from you; I'm doing community service this week.' The florist was pleased
and left the shop. When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replied, 'I cannot accept money from you; I'm doing community service this week.' The cop was happy and left the shop.
The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a 'thank you' card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

Then a Congressman came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, 'I cannot accept money from you. I'm doing community service this week.' The Congressman was very
happy and left the shop. The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen Congressmen and the president lined up waiting for a free haircut.

And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.

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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 2:48:24 PM

worryfree said: >The "fragile liberal philosophy" seems to have trumped the bogus con ideology the last two elections...gosh maybe you cons have got it wrong<

Just because more people voted stupidly for Obozo instead of making a much more rational choice like McCain or Romney doesn't mean that liberal philosophy is better - it just means there are way too many VERY stupid people in America, easily hoodwinked by con artists!

How many times and in how many different ways does Obozo have to prove his incompetence and failure before you begin to see the light? He's blown TRILLIONS of dollars on failed stimulus plans, made health care LESS affordable with his "affordable" care act, sank our credit rating, destabilized the world with his idiotic foreign policy, weakened our dollar, weakened our defenses, ignored our constitution and is rapidly transforming our great nation into the likeness of Detroit, another liberal "success" story. EVERY SINGLE ONE of his inititiatives has gone down in a blaze of flaming failure. If you're looking for something that will display the "superiority" of liberal philosophy, you'd be better off by keeping Obozo at arm's length (as long as your arms are several miles long).
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 9:27:01 AM

The "fragile liberal philosophy" seems to have trumped the bogus con ideology the last two elections...gosh maybe you cons have got it wrong
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 8:51:58 AM

Paxman, "During Obama's first weeks in office in early 2009, hopes were high. At the time, he promised that, if Congress passed his $830 billion stimulus right away, by December of 2012 unemployment would be 5.2%."

Didn't he mention something about "shovel ready jobs"? And later, didn't he admit that there were no "shovel ready jobs"?

That $830 billion didn't create any long term jobs, did it? We have less people working today, don't we? The labor participation rate is much lower, unemployment went higher, long term unemployment is much higher.

And still, he hasn't met with his Jobs Council for a year!

Obama's economic team said publicly that unemployment would go DOWN, projected to 5.2% by now if the "stimulus was passed immediately. Unemployment went UP!

So when he says something will go down, but it goes in the opposite direction, is that a lie?

Didn't he say the same thing about health insurance premiums?
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 7:22:51 AM

Paxman356 said: "Read just two posts below yours, jes."

Selling a plan to spend close to a TRILLION dollars based on off-base projections was more or less a promise to Americans that their tax dollars would be well spent and that the research was well-founded. You don't have to utter the word "promise" when taking such a huge gamble with other peoples' money. By default, that's a promise.

Obozo didn't even bother much to explain the differences that his screwy team came up with in their projections.
With the stimulus, the Romer and Bernstein predicted that unemployment would never rise past 8 percent, and would peak just under that in the third quarter of 2009 before steadily declining to around 5.6 percent by today. Without the stimulus, they predicted that unemployment would peak around 9 percent in the third quarter of 2010 before declining to around 6 percent today.

Let's see here...they recklessly spend $819B while their own projections come up with a measly .4% difference over the long term.

As the same article states: "The projection turned out to be one of the few things connected to it that was shovel-ready."

That pretty much sums up everything Obozo has tried to sell us on, doesn't it?
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:41:18 PM

I know that America's money management problem and the unemployment problem were not important enough to address in his inauguration speech. As AFS indicated, environment, gay rights, and making undocumented Democrats citizens are the highest priority. That and his past behavior of taking over the legislative arm every couple of months via executive decree, I do believe that he actually sees himself as the US monarchy.

Jobs had been a focus of his, so he said, until November 6th, 2012...
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 9:59:37 PM

If you listened to his inaugeration address you will think the environment, gay rights, and making undocumented Democrats citizens are the highest priority.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 9:54:57 PM

No, he's lost his 'laser like focus' (his own words, not mine). Now he's going to ram health care up our collective anuses again. He's also decided to take up the cause of homosexuality. Now, I have many homo friends, men and women. That said, I think it's not a wise thing to create a new minority out of them. Why should you get special privileges or treatment for being homosexual?
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 8:41:26 PM

Actually, draig, last year consumer income was up only slightly but consumer spending was up about 5%. The difference came from borrowing, and saving less.
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 8:27:40 PM

Polls show that most Americans are actually starting to save money instead of stupidly spending every penny (like the Bush administration told us to do after 9-11).

Seems like they listened to that part of the Republican doctrine. About time, I say.

The problem with that is that Americans are not buying stuff, and that means there is no reason to make stuff. Which, in case some of you are too bogged down in politics to understand, is the very thing the creates JOBS!

One other thing could create jobs. If we made stuff that people overseas wanted, that would create jobs. We did that once, but we had no competition at that time. Something about a world war.

Now, companies in Germany, Japan, Britain and other industrial nations, are making their own stuff. And, since they had the sense to nationalize health care, the burden does not go on the company. They also had the sense to invest in a better infrastructure (rail, roads, all that sort of stuff). So they can make it better AND cheaper than us. Their people buy their own country's products, and they export the rest.

So maybe that is where the jobs are going to come from; Unloading ships, moving stuff to the warehouses, moving stuff to stores, and selling it at Walmart.

Get in line. There are a lot of applicants.
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PappaVanTwee
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 7:19:49 PM

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And maybe you could point out JUST ONE of those lies, eh? Can you do that without a smirk on your face, or do you just want to continue to cowardly hide behind a curtain of false allegations?
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Read just two posts below yours, jes. You'll see it.

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Edpap: "America deserves better than a "joke" president."Unfortunately the takers are now the majority and they voted for the joke. When we go broke the joke is going to be on them.
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The sour grapes are strong in here.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 6:46:54 PM

Edpap: "America deserves better than a "joke" president."


Unfortunately the takers are now the majority and they voted for the joke. When we go broke the joke is going to be on them.


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noseatbelt
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 6:18:16 PM

the only job obama is focused on is his own, keeping it that is, not being good at it.

[Edited by: noseatbelt at 1/22/2013 6:19:24 PM EST]
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Edpap
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:41:09 AM

America deserves better than a "joke" president. He should apologize to America and resign.
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 9:34:05 AM

You could just have easily stopped at foucused flyboy.
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mudtoe
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 9:26:11 AM

Obama is focused on "transforming" America. He made that quite plain again yesterday. The transformation he is referring to is from global superpower to global debtor, and he's doing a hell of a job at it so far.


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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 7:45:30 AM

Obama Jobs Council hits 1 year without official meeting

"President Barack Obama's Jobs Council hit a notable milestone on Thursday: one year without an official meeting. The 26-member panel is also set to expire at the end of the month, unless Obama extends its tenure.

The group, formally known as the President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, last convened on Jan. 17, 2012 for a White House session where it presented formal recommendations to Obama. It was the panel's fourth official meeting since it was created in early 2011."

I guess four meetings and a report to the prez is all that council was good for. Did Obama then pass those recommendations on to the Congress? Did Obama take any executive actions that could have improved the jobs situation? Or did Obama hit the campaign trail for the entire year 2012?

Oh, and what did that report contain, on Jan. 17, 2012?
The new report embraces lower corporate tax rates, in addition to recommendations on education, research and development, domestic energy and manufacturing.

"In his opening remarks, the president assured the council it was not for “show” and congratulated it on the January report."

"The report advised substantial reform to lower the top corporate tax rate from 35 percent, while removing some deductions as a way to broaden the tax base."

"In fact, House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) embraced the report, saying in a statement: “President Obama’s own panel of experts has endorsed the approach to job creation House Republicans have been pursuing for more than a year.”"

Perhaps that is why we have heard zilch from the Council for the past year. Their well-thought recommendations were IGNORED by the president.
Did you hear any of those valid ideas in the inaugural blather yesterday?
I thought not.

One more thought: "Lower tax rates and broaden the tax base..."
Gee, where have we heard that great idea before?
Oh, yeah, Newt Gingrich.

[Edited by: I75at7AM at 1/22/2013 7:47:38 AM EST]
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 7:21:01 AM

Paxman356 said: "Maybe he should have said it's a hard right publication that lies."

And maybe you could point out JUST ONE of those lies, eh? Can you do that without a smirk on your face, or do you just want to continue to cowardly hide behind a curtain of false allegations?
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PappaVanTwee
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 7:16:11 AM

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We know how hard it must hurt when your only rebuttal is the last resort "we don't trust the messenger, so the message MUST be bad!"
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Maybe he should have said it's a hard right publication that lies. But to us, that is a given. To the hard right, they eat it up without question because it is what they want to hear.
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PappaVanTwee
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 7:13:18 AM

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During Obama's first weeks in office in early 2009, hopes were high. At the time, he promised that, if Congress passed his $830 billion stimulus right away, by December of 2012 unemployment would be 5.2%.
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He didn't even "promise" it wouldn't get above 8%, it was a projection. He never said anything about 5.2%. That was in a report who's projections he used to come up with the 8% figure. So, "He promised ... by December of 2012 unemployment would be 5.2%" is false.

If it's IBJ, it's HOGWASH!
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 6:43:21 AM

worryfree said: "IBD is a hard right publication."

Oh, sorry. It's just really tough nowadays to find any facts and truth coming out of anything left-leaning.

In the future, we'll try hard to avoid articles that totally blow away your fragile ideology. We know how hard it must hurt when your only rebuttal is the last resort "we don't trust the messenger, so the message MUST be bad!"
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Guitar_Man
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 12:54:27 AM

"He's more focused on jobs that Boehner/Cantor/McConnell, that's for sure."

Oh really? Is that why he just allowed taxes to go up, significantly, on 77% of Americans?

Is that why he's allowing the EPA to prevent coal plants from operating thus laying off thousands of workers?

I found it interesting, but not surprising, that our almost $17 Trillion Debt wasn't even mentioned in his speech yet he gave a lot of time to further an environmental extremism agenda.

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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 12:40:57 AM

"He's more focused on jobs that Boehner/Cantor/McConnell, that's for sure."

Show us some examples of that Obama focus LOL Blue ribbon panels only creates jobs for Limousine and catering companies serving the panel.

Obama was so focused that when his jobs panel was finished, they -- well Went back to their old jobs and NOTHING happened.

"Shovel-ready was not as … uh … shovel-ready as we expected"

Hard to focus when your too busy campaigning

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sgm4law
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:57:24 PM

He's more focused on jobs that Boehner/Cantor/McConnell, that's for sure.
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worryfree
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:41:00 PM

IBD is a hard right publication.
To answer your question "yes".
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:21:57 PM

Obama has no clue how to create a job, just blue ribbon panels

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Guitar_Man
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:09:22 PM

Well, you gotta feel for the guy.

By most measures, he DID inherit quite the mess in 2008.

Now, in 2013, the mess is now nuclear in comparison!!! (But he's cool...just wants UNLIMITED debt, to raise taxes more and more, and to spend spend spend!)

We have another great four years before us!



[Edited by: Guitar_Man at 1/21/2013 11:10:07 PM EST]
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 11:00:06 PM

So what is not to like abut Investors Business Daily opinions?

I understand they are not the more left leaning stuff. But you need a daily dose of the other side Paxman. :-)
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PappaVanTwee
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 10:31:10 PM

IBJ? Seriously?
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