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sissurf Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:19,890 Points:1,676,325 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 8:29:35 PM Ignore sissurf Report Abuse The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina Uploaded on Mar 7, 2007 The video you will see on this web site is horrifying. The crimes committed against law-abiding gun owners are beyond comprehension. The arrogance of anti-gun politicians and government officials and their hate of freedom will churn your stomach. The law is the law, the Constitution is the Constitution. If ONE local mayor or police chief can decide what the Second Amendment means, it opens the door to tyranny—where ANY mayor or police chief can say what the Second Amendment means. You've seen this brand of abuse of freedom in the history books—in the pages about days of gun confiscations leading to the terror of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. But you'd never in a million years think it could happen in America. Well, it can and it did. And it will happen again unless we take action today. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Police Superintendent P. Eddie Compass unleashed a wave of confiscations with these chilling words: "No one will be able to be armed. We will take all weapons. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns." Thousands of firearms were then confiscated from law-abiding gun owners. The police gave no paperwork or receipts for those guns. They just stormed in and seized them. With your help we're going to make the first time in New Orleans the LAST time in America. Thank you! Now, one year later, these crimes against gun owners have snowballed into a far greater threat to our freedoms. Even though NRA secured a court order demanding their immediate and unconditional return, almost every single confiscated firearm remains locked in government trailers. With the stroke of a pen, Mayor Nagin and Police Superintendent Compass are getting away with "murder"—a savaging of the second, fourth and fourteenth amendments of our Constitution. And they have put America on notice that they're going to keep seizing lawfully owned guns under any pretense. New Orleans gun owners are showing up at these trailers, with serial numbers of their firearms, expecting Mayor Nagin and his band of anti-gunners to respect the Federal courts. They are met by stony-eyed bureaucrats who say serial numbers aren't enough—and that gun owners now need PROOF OF PURCHASE of these firearms. How many of those gun owners do you think had original receipts for those firearms? And even if they did, how many do you think could find those receipts in the wreckage of a hurricane? Many of these firearms were passed down from father to son, generation to generation. Some are precious heirlooms. Some are collector's pieces won in our wars. And they were all lawfully owned and they must be returned to their owners. With your help we're going to make the first time in New Orleans the LAST time in America. Thank you! watch video... there's never been a more important time for you.. [Edited by: sissurf at 1/17/2013 8:31:45 PM EST]

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The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina

Uploaded on Mar 7, 2007

The video you will see on this web site is horrifying. The crimes committed against law-abiding gun owners are beyond comprehension. The arrogance of anti-gun politicians and government officials and their hate of freedom will churn your stomach.

The law is the law, the Constitution is the Constitution. If ONE local mayor or police chief can decide what the Second Amendment means, it opens the door to tyranny—where ANY mayor or police chief can say what the Second Amendment means.

You've seen this brand of abuse of freedom in the history books—in the pages about days of gun confiscations leading to the terror of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. But you'd never in a million years think it could happen in America.
Well, it can and it did. And it will happen again unless we take action today.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Police Superintendent P. Eddie Compass unleashed a wave of confiscations with these chilling words:
"No one will be able to be armed. We will take all weapons. Only law enforcement will be allowed to have guns."

Thousands of firearms were then confiscated from law-abiding gun owners. The police gave no paperwork or receipts for those guns. They just stormed in and seized them.

With your help we're going to make the first time in New Orleans the LAST time in America. Thank you!

Now, one year later, these crimes against gun owners have snowballed into a far greater threat to our freedoms.
Even though NRA secured a court order demanding their immediate and unconditional return, almost every single confiscated firearm remains locked in government trailers.

With the stroke of a pen, Mayor Nagin and Police Superintendent Compass are getting away with "murder"—a savaging of the second, fourth and fourteenth amendments of our Constitution. And they have put America on notice that they're going to keep seizing lawfully owned guns under any pretense.

New Orleans gun owners are showing up at these trailers, with serial numbers of their firearms, expecting Mayor Nagin and his band of anti-gunners to respect the Federal courts.
They are met by stony-eyed bureaucrats who say serial numbers aren't enough—and that gun owners now need PROOF OF PURCHASE of these firearms.
How many of those gun owners do you think had original receipts for those firearms? And even if they did, how many do you think could find those receipts in the wreckage of a hurricane?
Many of these firearms were passed down from father to son, generation to generation. Some are precious heirlooms. Some are collector's pieces won in our wars. And they were all lawfully owned and they must be returned to their owners.
With your help we're going to make the first time in New Orleans the LAST time in America. Thank you!

watch video... there's never been a more important time for you..

[Edited by: sissurf at 1/17/2013 8:31:45 PM EST]

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AFSNCO Champion Author Montgomery Posts:14,749 Points:1,293,160 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 2:53:44 PM Ignore AFSNCO Report Abuse gocat...read the story you linked to. It does not say they can confiscate your gun if you are following the law. It does say they can check a weapon when you are hunting because there are caliber and magazine restrictions. But go ahead and keep spreading the misinformation but your own article tells a different story than you claimed.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,873 Points:1,012,710 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 1:07:12 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse gocat - I am not arguing that the laws in all states are the same. Nor am I arguing that the law enforcement folks have the authority to require you to disarm if they have probable cause you have committed a crime of some sort. That is not only game wardens but every other law enforcement officer. I guess it depends on how you interpret 'confiscate'. I'm pretty sure that if you're convicted of some game law violations the penalty is that any equipment you used to commit the violation is subject to confiscation by the state. That includes guns, vehicles, and fishing equipment - whatever. Depends on state law. But the carp and coot cop doesnt have the right to arbitrarily take firearms.
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:15,669 Points:2,532,405 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:42:56 PM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse Fly, again a game warden can confiscate weapons and does not need a warrant as my link made very clearly. In your case if you did Not break the law there was no reason to take your gun. Next time you talk to a game warden ask them about their far reaching authority. I will be talking with one today.
xrdc Champion Author St. Louis Posts:6,925 Points:666,875 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:38:21 PM Ignore xrdc Report Abuse Well, at least Ray Nagin was a trustworthy guy with good intentions. I'm sure the 1,000 that WERE confiscated were from repentant criminals.
MahopacJack Champion Author New York Posts:8,020 Points:1,585,650 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:20:48 PM Ignore MahopacJack Report Abuse gocatgo, >>There are many loopholes in the US Constitution.<< *** No, there are a number of officials not living up to their oath of office who know the cost to bring a suit to the US Supreme Court is prohibitive for most ordinary citizens. Again, the ordinary citizen gets screwed.
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,873 Points:1,012,710 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:44:05 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Gocat - I have worked with or been on the other end with game wardens in many states - including Wisc. Never once have they asked me to give them my firearm.
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:15,669 Points:2,532,405 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:30:14 PM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse About a 1,000 guns out of nearly 300,000,000 confiscated. I am shaking, Lol. So what did George W Bush's US Attorney General do about this miscarriage of justice on the 2nd Amendment? Here's another little news flash for gun owners. Don't get caught by a game warden breaking the law because he can and will confiscate your gun. Also a game warden can make searches without a warrant. There are many loopholes in the US Constitution.
WES03 Champion Author Maryland Posts:4,854 Points:1,267,020 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 8:45:12 AM Ignore WES03 Report Abuse Shocking but it's what the left does.
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:11,886 Points:1,200,840 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 8:25:01 AM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse . . . waiting for 'any' response from the lib regs on this one, come on boys, let's hear yer comeback. Great article, sis
sissurf Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:19,890 Points:1,676,325 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:31:49 AM Ignore sissurf Report Abuse 3 Dirty Cops Sold Drugs, Authorities Say in Chicago again?! WOW!
sissurf Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:19,890 Points:1,676,325 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 12:21:41 AM Ignore sissurf Report Abuse Hey wasn't this obama's neck of the woods at one time?! What happened here?!!
flyboyUT Champion Author Utah Posts:22,873 Points:1,012,710 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 8:58:42 PM Ignore flyboyUT Report Abuse Until the mayor, chief and all cops or anyone else who participated in this are held personally responsible by the courts - nothing will be done.