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YDraigGoch

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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 3:20:05 PM

The lobbying firm for the gun industry (aka the NRA) keeps telling us that we need to keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have them. They say we don’t need new laws, that the existing laws should be enforced.

I am in total agreement with those statements. Most reasonable people in both the gun community, and the gun control community would be in agreement.

The NRA, on the other hand, is not.

They have gone out of their way to keep the BATF, or any other organization, from enforcing existing laws. Have gone out of their way to nullify ANY record keeping that could match guns with bad people. Have gone out of their way to totally emasculate the BATF which is charged with enforcing existing laws. They oppose closing the Gun show loophole. The private sales loopholes.

They lie. They LIE! THEY LIE!!!

Most guns involved in heinous acts come from about 1% of the gun dealers. Yet laws put in place by right wing gun fanatics prevent the BATF from being able to prove it. No registry of firearms sales can be kept.

Background checks must be destroyed in 24 hours. If somebody misses something, too bad. The bad guy has the gun.

The BATF has no director. Normally, only cabinet positions need Congressional approval. But the NRA lobbyists managed to sneak an amendment into a totally non related bill that makes Congressional approval a mandate.

In 2007, Rep. Todd Tiahrt suggested that mayors shouldn't try to trace the source of illegal guns because the ATF is "going after them 24/7."

Todd Tiahrt is the Congressman who authored an amendment with many limits on the ATF Tthe NRA wrote it themselves. The amendment was tacked on to a defense spending bill.

These people are despicable SNEAKs! They are such cowards that they do their business behind people’s backs. Even most gun owners do not know a lot of this.

No computers, thank you. We like the old west way of checking. NOTHING!!

More stuff on NOT matching bad guys to guns

John Stewart, The Daily Show, sometimes goes a little oeverboard on gun control ...

On this subject, Stewart is absolutely correct

An interesting sidebar to this post. Since the BATF can't look for stolen guns via a registry, an ambitious company is trying to pick up the slack.

Advertisement : Since the BATF has no power, let us help… for a fee, of course

It isn’t guns that are killing our kids. It’s the total lack of ability to find miscreants with guns. And that lack falls totally on the shoulders of the NRA lobbying firm.

NRA really stands for No Real Accountability

Or better yet, No Responsibility Allowed
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YDraigGoch
Champion Author Illinois

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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 6:56:55 PM

There are, however, some people I feel the need to arm myself against

Some quotes from the link;
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James Yeager, the CEO of a Tennessee company called Tactical Response. In response to the prospect of stricter gun laws, he posted a YouTube video saying, "If that happens, it's gonna spark a civil war, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot. ... I'm not letting my country be ruled by a dictator. I'm not letting anybody take my guns. If it goes one inch further, I'm gonna start killing people."

If you're a regular listener to conservative talk radio, you've heard Barack Obama compared to Hitler and Stalin innumerable times, over every issue from health care to taxes (after Obama's press conference, one Fox News Radio host tweeted, "Freedom ends. Tyranny begins."). Since his election in 2008, supposedly respectable politicians have talked about simply refusing to obey laws they don't like, and some even proposed seceding from the union.
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See, the NRA is right. There really are some people with guns who could pose a threat to the rest of us.

Stay alert.
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Cliffisher
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 3:34:07 PM

Our fat Rep Sensenbrenner has been the NRA's lap dog for years.
Sensenbrenner, more than any other person, is responsible for the anti ATF items inserted into pending bills.

[Edited by: Cliffisher at 1/17/2013 3:37:28 PM EST]
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