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AFSNCO

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Message Posted: Jan 15, 2013 9:49:18 AM

The hiring pledge, which will begin on Memorial Day, covers veterans within 12 months of leaving active duty.

Hmm...wonder what the haters will have to say about this?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 8:44:25 AM

"...the Department of Defense, which just so happens to be the nation's largest employer. "

--But the government doesn't create jobs.

Riiiight.
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NickHammer
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 8:38:50 AM

>>Isn't saying something positive about Walmart going to make the mods instantly shut it down??<<

Aaah...the right-wing Gas Buddy conspiracy theory. Sure, you can spin it that way if you want, but it has nothing to do with "positive".

The 4th of Five things that will get a topic closed:
4) The initiation of any Wal-Mart based threads, and or Pro/Anti-smoking topics. They are not allowed.

Notice the word "any".

But you can get around it - or fool the mods (for a while, at least) - by titling it "Nation's largest employer", because the mods will think it's referring to the Department of Defense, which just so happens to be the nation's largest employer.
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Guitar_Man
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 1:15:49 AM

Isn't saying something positive about Walmart going to make the mods instantly shut it down??
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2013 12:51:47 AM

"Walmart is one of the few employers in the USA that offers health insurance to all employees even those that are part time."

But didn't someone on here say that the cost of the healthcare that Walmart offers to its employees, is so high that most employees decline because they can't afford it?
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 11:28:27 PM

"If you are now claiming that I made that claim, your claim is that your claim is not your claim. I'm claiming that you claimed something which was not claimed in the article"

Hehehehe! So, who's on first?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 10:53:43 PM

AFSNCO: "Nick, in response, that is what Walmart has claimed and put out...every veteran that applies and wants a job will get one. And yes, if you read below someone did make that claim:

SS: "Never mind what the article says. "ALL" vets will soon be working."

--All I did was repeat what your OP title said: "...promises jobs to all vets..."

If you are now claiming that I made that claim, your claim is that your claim is not your claim. I'm claiming that you claimed something which was not claimed in the article you claimed supported it. So why would you claim something that is not claimed in the link you put beneath your own claim? Unless you are claiming that you didn't write your own claim...

-takes a breath-
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 6:32:24 PM

Walmart is one of the few employers in the USA that offers health insurance to all employees even those that are part time. Most companies do not provide benefits to part time employees.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 5:09:07 PM

Nick, in response, that is what Walmart has claimed and put out...every veteran that applies and wants a job will get one. And yes, if you read below someone did make that claim:

SS: "Never mind what the article says. "ALL" vets will soon be working."

[Edited by: AFSNCO at 1/22/2013 5:09:32 PM EST]
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NickHammer
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 3:09:12 PM

>>Also, where did it say that EVERY veteran would now have a job?<<

No one has claimed that this was said. But your topic title does say that "all vets that apply" would get a job. So, if you're wondering where anyone might get the impression that EVERY veteran who WANTS a job can now have one --- well, here's lookin' at you!
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 2:58:55 PM

RNORM: "Its great that they're offing jobs to vets, but lets not make them the messiah, ok? "


We sure wouldn't want to encroach on Obama's domain...


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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 2:44:15 PM

Since I can't find the "other" WalMart thread, I'll post this here.

Wal-Mart issues "zero tolerance" policy for suppliers subcontracting work without knowledge

"BENTONVILLE, Ark. (AP) -- Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has alerted its global suppliers that it will immediately drop them if they subcontract their work to factories that haven't been authorized by the discounter.
Wal-Mart's stricter measure, along with other changes to its policy, comes amid increasing calls for better safety oversight after a deadly fire at a Bangladesh factory that supplied clothing to Wal-Mart and other retailers."

"Wal-Mart has said the factory wasn't authorized to make its clothes."
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 9:32:44 AM

"There is just a hatred of Walmart by people on the left. I get it that they are the largest retail employer in most towns but why should they pay a higher salary to people doing the same work at Kmart, Sears, and others. But somehow these libs think that is how it should be. "


I don't hate Walmart. I do think that they could do worlds better in offering health benefits to their employees. I also know from being in local government for a good while that Walmart can be ruthless and shady (like many corporations). Ours was one of the Cities that didn't capitulate when Walmart started making ridiculous demands and they actually sued our City because they didn't get their way and lost.

So no, not everyone on the left hates Walmart, but at the same time, lets not act as if Walmart walks on water. Their foreign bribery problem has been revealed and its not an isolated thing and they have been found guilty in major discrimination cases, so they have their problems too.

Its great that they're offing jobs to vets, but lets not make them the messiah, ok?
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 8:44:56 AM

They have every right to spend their own money any way they want and they have every right to go into business and pay people whatever they want AFSNCO. It's when they want to force their morals and values down the throats of everyone else is where I disagree. And their hatred and bigotry towards business owners and wealthy people should fall under the hate laws that are being passed. The term 1% is meant to incite hatred and anger towards people. Calling someone a 1% er should be hate speech. It's only a matter of time before someone is murdered by a recycled blunt instrument. Which we should ban all of them before someone gets hurt.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 8:31:27 AM

There is just a hatred of Walmart by people on the left. I get it that they are the largest retail employer in most towns but why should they pay a higher salary to people doing the same work at Kmart, Sears, and others. But somehow these libs think that is how it should be.
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 8:23:28 AM

Unlike my friend sluggo who spoke in satire, metaphor and parody. Makes for a much more interesting and intelligent debate.

Sad to have to speak of him in the past tense. RIP my friend.

[Edited by: airfresh at 1/20/2013 8:23:56 AM EST]
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 7:42:33 AM

<<<Also, where did it say that EVERY veteran would now have a job?>>>

Stevie only speaks in hyperbole and false arguments.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:59:42 PM

Wonder what Steve would say if Walmart came ut and said they were not hiring any veterans?

Also, where did it say that EVERY veteran would now have a job?

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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:55:08 PM

"Colonel Harland Sanders was actually a Kentucky Colonel.
About Kentucky colonels"

+1

Never heard of them before. But if it's all for charity, then it shouldn't be too bad. And here I thought Col. Sanders just wasn't good enough to make it to Brigadier General... :)))

[Edited by: KatmanDo at 1/19/2013 11:56:19 PM EST]
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:13:00 PM

About Kentucky colonels
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:02:11 PM

Katmando, Colonel Harland Sanders was actually a Kentucky Colonel. You should research that a little bit. It is pretty interesting.
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 12:40:54 PM

I wonder if they'll have the colonels dress up like Col. Sanders so the Wal*Mart shoppers recognize that their store greeter used to be somebody important...
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:37:31 AM

Our lowest paid relative that works for Walmart makes $9 and change per hour as a cashier.

Her scheduled and unscheduled hours are random - depending on what hours she can work, or what hours she is willing to work.

Like many of her co-workers, she purposely works part-time flex hours, frequently turning down scheduled hours, on-call hours, weekends, nights, promotions etc.She's had numerous opportunities to work full time in numerous store jobs, plus at the distribution and return centers, but she wasn't interested.
We have over a dozen relatives working for Walmart currently, but she's the only part-timer.

The full-timers make $11 plus depending on the position.Unless you're a total screw-up, or voluntarily working part-time, it's nearly impossible to stay in a part-time or low paying job with Walmart.

Many Walmart employees are poor performers, so it's very easy to get ahead.

Turnover is high in their industry, plus they're expanding, so they're always hiring locally.

Our cousin's son - currently 20 years old made $43,000 last year working for Walmart Logistics. Pretty good money for a kid that barely made it through high school.

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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 5:04:08 PM

-wonders how a buck eighty a week adds up to 1920-
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 3:33:26 PM

So an E-1 makes $1516 a month versus Wal*Mart's $1920 a month.
An E-4 would make about equivalent pay.
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:20:17 AM

Maybe it is time for my sarcastic side again.

The more I think about it this is fabulous news. Just imagine. The world's largest employer is being so generous out of the bottom of their hearts to single-handedly solve the atrocious veteran unemployment problem. This is wonderful news!

And I'm take the OP title to heart. Never mind what the article says. "ALL" vets will soon be working. And what prosperous lives they can build, making $12 an hour for 15 hours a week. Why, that's $180 a week (before taxes.) Who couldn't live on that? All one has to do is be frugal. And with all those super low prices they can live like KINGS on such a handsome salary.

Now we can expect that, within a short time, the veteran unemployment problem will vanish! No more homeless vets, far fewer beggars on street corners. What's not to like?

So let's just sit back and watch the beauty unfold. What do you think? By the end of summer or so these problems will be history! Let's just revisit this, say about August or so, and see how unbridled capitalism can solve the problems which have eluded government for so long. Why, this is so incredible it will help the national deficit! Now we won't have to pay so much for food stamps or unemployment. All because the Waltons are SO generous. My, aren't we lucky.

I'm looking forward to seeing the results. Now don't let us down, oh wonderful saviors of our economy...
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:27:42 AM

Anyone that's motivated, disciplined, mentally/physically fit, has a strong work ethic, reliable transportation, a clean driver's license and can pass a drug test and background check is a good fit at countless businesses.

Anyone with these qualifications and qualities will find jobs easily and advance quickly as there are so many job seekers and workers that are culled out, terminated or never advance due to qualification and performance issues.

To find jobs, keep jobs and advance at Walmart, as long as you're not a total screw-up, you just have to show up for work, show up on time and have average - even below average performance.

Many of the workers we've terminated for frequently missing work, frequently showing up late, frequent mistakes, poor performance etc end up finding and keeping jobs at Walmart stores.

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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:54:45 AM

Speaking as someone who retired from the military, a person who retires from the military won't be starting at the bottom rung in a company like Walmart. And if by chance they did start at the bottom, they would move up so fast it would make an HR clerk's head spin.

People who have retired from the military have served at least 20 years (or are disabled but that is another category) and will be leaders. If enlisted they will be E-7 to E-9 with a ton of leadership experience, the ability to think on their feet and make it happen. If an officer he or she would be a field grade officer, they will know how to lead battalion or larger strength groups of people and to best delegate tasks to get the most accomplished.

Even the people who have served one term will have skills that just aren't possessed by most civilians. When I first got out of the service I had a hard time adjusting to the ways of civilian workers. In the military, when I called the 1SG and said I wanted the rocks out in front of the HQ painted green... I didn't call him back to check on progress. I didn't follow up to make sure it was done. The next morning when I drove up the rocks in front of the HQ would be green.

In the civilian world, show up for work at 8 means, 8-ish. And you'd better follow up a project at every stage or you are likely to find that something happened and it just didn't get done. But call you? Of course not. Then you might give them another task.
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I75at7AM
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 4:35:44 PM

I agree with gocat's post of 10:38AM today. Nothing is forever. Some veterans have trouble getting a foothold in the general economy after their service is finished. WalMart's offer is fair and genuine. The average length of employment at a WalMart is anywhere from six months to two years. Of course, there is the entire range of people who don't stay long at all to the 25+ year people who have made it a career.

If a military veteran worked with information systems or any type of inventory or parts system, they have a natural fit with WalMart and they will probably do well. As has been mentioned earlier, the ability to learn new tasks and a good work ethic will take them into the workforce with a distinct advantage (over the slackers).
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 2:37:22 PM

<<<--Anyone who takes pleasure in the troubles of others is demented.>>>

Lighten up Semi. My sense of humor can be a bit demented. You didn't really think I meant harm on anyone did you? Norm understood.

Besides, anyone who hates WalMart... and you all know who you are... has to seek to perpetuate that hate and spend a lot of time cultivating it. Hating corporations and rich people is the same as hating races and cultures or political parties. You need to water and fertilize and nurture it. Then you have to continually water and feed it the proper information and propaganda to keep it strong.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:42:00 AM

"To answer your question it will probably be a combination of types of jobs DOE. As I said, they offered me a manager trainee job that paid about $32K a year until I actually became a manager and then it went up about another $15K. Some will be entry-level. If you did 4 years as the infantry and got out as an E-4 with no leadership experience or special training other than shoot a gun and dig a ditch you should expect to get an entry-level position. If you were in the military for over 20 years, have a 4-year degree and were in various leadership positions you should expect to have the possiblity to enter management...just like any other corporation."


Thank you for that brother.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:31:40 AM

"the more brain explosions they cause on the left. Love it just love it. Hear em? Bang pow pop boom. It's like a symphony. "

--Anyone who takes pleasure in the troubles of others is demented. There is something wrong with such a person's psyche. I wish everyone nothing but good will, as the bible says one should do. Not that I am a believer. It just makes good sense to live in harmony with others and to wish others well. Christ may be known for coining the phrase 'love thy neighbor' but the concept really has nothing to do with reverence. It just makes good sense and it is logical if a planet full of humans are to coexist and advance.

I would suggest anyone who takes pleasure in the pain of others to rethink their morals.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 11:00:11 AM

gocat,

Exactly...it is like working at McDonalds. Some people may make it a career and climb the ladder to management while others just use it as a paycheck until something else comes along.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:38:34 AM

WalMart may not be a career move up but it's a good start until something better comes along. More employers need to follow this example.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:36:39 AM

"Its very seldom that I comment about Walmart. Not to mention that one of the forum rules is to not start Walmart threads. I was asking a serious, simple question, which again, has not been answered...no problem, but then don't always blame the left for lack of discussion on the forums."

To answer your question it will probably be a combination of types of jobs DOE. As I said, they offered me a manager trainee job that paid about $32K a year until I actually became a manager and then it went up about another $15K. Some will be entry-level. If you did 4 years as the infantry and got out as an E-4 with no leadership experience or special training other than shoot a gun and dig a ditch you should expect to get an entry-level position. If you were in the military for over 20 years, have a 4-year degree and were in various leadership positions you should expect to have the possiblity to enter management...just like any other corporation.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:24:56 AM

So some of these Wal-Mart jobs could actually pay more than what they were making in the military.

Maybe someone that has just retired from the military does not want to work 40 hours a week.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:22:44 AM

When I sold an apartment house to a Downstate landlord recently, he asked - "does everyone in this area work for Walmart?" as 5 of the units were rented to tenants that worked for Walmart.

I told him Walmart Logistics was one of the few places where uneducated, unskilled, low skilled and inexperienced workers could make enough money to pay my rents.

Not only are they the nation's largest private employer, but they're the largest employer in many regions as well.

Walmart is a big draw for many other businesses as well.

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cymk
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:18:27 AM

airfresh, I was comparing base pay for entry level positions in both fields. There is alwas ythe chance that many of the m could end up working in a distribution center and make much more (for thier sakes, I hope they do) but knowing what goes on at the management level of a corporate chain store I don't have my hopes up for returning vets to get the very best position available.

Besides I don't put it past walamrt to push all the vets into retail positions such as greeters to "show" america it is putting vets back to work.
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:07:19 AM

So some of those jobs could be $18-$20 and hour and full time hours. $18x40x52= $37,440 or 2 times what cymk thinks is a better deal in the military?

Look I'm not degrading military pay nor do I want to elevate WalMart to sainthood status. The people getting hired will be hired based on their experience, qualifications, and willingness to work hard. And they will be compensated based on their qualifications and accordingly for whatever the job pays for those qualification. And if THEY accept the job I don't give a fig what the pay is. They accepted the job because they felt it was the best they could attain at this time. Good for them. It's better then the alternative. Close to 20% of the population is either unemployed or under employed and there are another 5 million who have given up and aren't even counted any more since 2009.

Nit pick all you want. Wally is and has been going about the business of actually doing things that contribute to society, govt, and charity for many years. And all you can do is complain. go for it. Make yourself feel better. It's music to my ears. Almost like Beethoven (props to Norm)
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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:04:07 AM

None can give an answer as to how much Walmart will compensate "any" employee without other data.

It all depends on the job, location, hours, shift and the skills, education, knowledge and performance of the worker.

For example, one of our relatives started as a part-time cashier @ $8.60 per hour. They were offered a full time position as a backroom inventory associate that started @ $10 per hour at one location, or $11.50 at another.

Like many of their co-workers at Walmart, they don't want, or they're unwilling to work full-time, overtime, on-call, nights, overnights, weekends or at other stores, so they never move up the ladder.
Walmart has more full time jobs than most in the industry as they have so many products and services, plus many products other don't carry.

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MarkJames
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:46:39 AM

"Our Walmart Distribution and Return Center jobs are highly sought after jobs.

Many jobs start @ $16 plus per hour, plus pay shift differential, department differential and bonuses for exceeding engineered labor safety standards."

That is true...and a forklift operator or something similar would make even more depending on experience and certifications. "Many start as an order fillers @ $18 plus per hour, but consistently make in the $20s per hour for exceeding engineered labor standards.
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 4:03:57 PM

"Because you guys constantly bring up Walmart and their wages but never mention others in the same industry."

Um... =you= were the one who opened the topic and made the initial post.
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 3:40:53 PM

"Because you guys constantly bring up Walmart and their wages but never mention others in the same industry. It has been proven over and over again that Walmart pays comparable wages for the work done. Just because Walmart hires 50 cashiers to Kmart'ss 15 makes them a target because they employ such a high volume compared to other retailers. Because so many people work for that giant you all thing somehow they should pay more."


Its very seldom that I comment about Walmart. Not to mention that one of the forum rules is to not start Walmart threads. I was asking a serious, simple question, which again, has not been answered...no problem, but then don't always blame the left for lack of discussion on the forums.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 3:37:17 PM

Oh, if you do not believe me...ask SemiSteve or see his post in this thread. Yes, a lot of people do leave Walmart but they have the same transition rate as other corporations also. And do you know why that is? Because they are ENTRY-LEVEL positions...this applies to sales associates, cashiers, and other floor personnel.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 3:34:35 PM

"Hold up.

I asked a simple question, do the jobs pay well and offer health care.

When that was ridiculed, but never answered, I explained that if the jobs did not pay well (a living wage) and provide health care, then the right would be moaning and whining about the increased number of people on Obamacare and the increased number of "47% takers"."

Because you guys constantly bring up Walmart and their wages but never mention others in the same industry. It has been proven over and over again that Walmart pays comparable wages for the work done. Just because Walmart hires 50 cashiers to Kmart'ss 15 makes them a target because they employ such a high volume compared to other retailers. Because so many people work for that giant you all thing somehow they should pay more.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 3:30:20 PM

"Our Walmart Distribution and Return Center jobs are highly sought after jobs.

Many jobs start @ $16 plus per hour, plus pay shift differential, department differential and bonuses for exceeding engineered labor safety standards."

That is true...and a forklift operator or something similar would make even more depending on experience and certifications.
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:46:28 PM

101Speedster>>>Why do you assume that someone hired with Wal-Mart will only work 30 hours a week? <<<

I was giving a generous estimate from my own personal experience working both part-time and as full-time management in retail and my wifes experience in retial management. Most retail stores hire thier employees as part-time hourly, now sure there will be the occasional manager or two hired, but the majority of positions filled are part-time hourly.

Rather than hire 4 full-time employees that will inevitably need the same day off or get fired/quit, a retail store hires 10 part-time employees. This compensates ofr general turnover rates and allows each shift to get covered while maximizing flexability in scheduling.

Most retail stores (especially when opperating a as chain location of a large corporation) have budgets and can only afford $X for payroll of the store. That budget is usually decided by corporate based upon profitability of said store. Payroll budgets define how many hours a store has for its employees, and store management's payroll is chopped off the top of the budget leaving whatever is left for the rest of the staff.

On average I used to see part-time employees get 20-30 hours a week, and that was before the economy tanked. So my estimate was a high one; and the military still pays more than pushing cheap crap from china.
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:26:46 PM

"I love Wal Mart. The more good they do, the more people they hire, the more charities they help, the more they accomplish and the more money they make doing it... the more brain explosions they cause on the left. Love it just love it. Hear em? Bang pow pop boom. It's like a symphony."


*ROTFL*

I prefer Beethoven's 9th tho.
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:16:11 PM

Of course, that comparison that you used shows a person working 30 hours a week versus an active duty service member putting in 50 or more hours per week. There won't be any field exercises or people shooting at you... at least not on a regular basis.

By using a 30 hour part timer you are able to make it really look like the Walmart jobs are a huge step down for the unemployed former soldier... Great comparison.

[Edited by: Bell30012 at 1/16/2013 2:17:15 PM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:13:10 PM

cymk, Why do you assume that someone hired with Wal-Mart will only work 30 hours a week?

MarkJames says, "Local Walmart stores also have more full-time jobs and higher paying jobs than industry averages."
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airfresh
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:11:43 PM

I love Wal Mart. The more good they do, the more people they hire, the more charities they help, the more they accomplish and the more money they make doing it... the more brain explosions they cause on the left. Love it just love it. Hear em? Bang pow pop boom. It's like a symphony.
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cymk
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Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 2:00:34 PM

Speed, here is a chart for monthy base pay for the military depending on grade. And here is walmarts pay scale by position (note: you may need to login using your facebook account to see all of the data).

An hoursly sales associate (working 30 hours a week @ 8.83/hr) makes 12.715.20 a year while a E-1 grade (with less than 2 years service) makes 18,194.40 a year



[Edited by: cymk at 1/16/2013 2:05:14 PM EST]
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