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florida1541 Veteran Author Columbus Posts:399 Points:4,760 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 9:59:00 AM Ignore florida1541 Report Abuse and start holding current administrations responsible for they do ?

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and start holding current administrations responsible for they do ?

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streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 1:04:35 AM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse Or there could have been a little father son conflict and he could have blame daddy. LOL
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,280,115 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 7:16:52 PM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse I think George Bush should have blamed Jimmy Carter, lol.
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,898 Points:749,380 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 4:52:49 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse The Democrats have the perfect way to break a filibuster... It's called compromise.
KatmanDo Champion Author Detroit Posts:12,943 Points:2,641,710 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 4:00:51 PM Ignore KatmanDo Report Abuse "when do we stop blameing past administrations" When they get acquitted by the International Court at the Hague.
YDraigGoch Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,346 Points:86,435 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 2:42:54 PM Ignore YDraigGoch Report Abuse It's perfectly proper to blame previous administrations for what they did wrong. It is also proper to equate those policies to the results we see today. Cause and effect. Nothing happens in a vacuum, not even the thought processes of fanatical political adherents. It is also proper to blame the current administration for not being experienced enough to fix what the last one broke. As to which one deserves the most blame, well, that is for history to decide.
owt Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,300 Points:1,591,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 2:12:16 PM Ignore owt Report Abuse The media helps in all the crap.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,845 Points:2,929,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 12:03:31 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse RNorm - beg pardon, but Bell was correct. Read his statement, he didn't say "supermajority". The Democrats, while not holding a filibuster-proof majority for very long STILL held the overwhelming majority (what? 59 or 58 seats?) for the first two years.
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:23,067 Points:3,550,120 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 12:24:47 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse The day EVERYTHING goes right, the administration of the day will claim FULL credit, no matter what was set in place by previous administrations. Until then, everything wrong will ALWAYS be the fault of the previous administration. Politics, the name of the game.
RNorm Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:45,196 Points:794,555 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 2:28:45 PM Ignore RNorm Report Abuse "Even when the Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate for the first two years. " I guess if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes true? The Super Majority lasted only 72 DAYS...and since then, its been GOP filibuster after filibuster; setting filibuster records. [Edited by: RNorm at 12/29/2012 2:30:29 PM EST]
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,846 Points:2,743,375 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 1:45:07 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse BTW, wasn't the sequester deal something that was meant to give the democratically controlled Senate time to do some work -- do anything?
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,845 Points:2,929,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 10:58:10 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse btc1 continued to babble: "I do not know. The cons are still blaming Clinton!" --In your dreams, btc1.. in your dreams. And you uber-libs are STILL trying to "get even" any way you can for the Clinton impeachment and censure. And you have no defense for that one.
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:18,052 Points:798,550 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 10:30:26 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse Yep, you are right, streetrider!
streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 9:54:35 AM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse btc1 Clinton ? it goes back further than that , dose Jimmy Carter ring a bell. I think you now stand corrected.
Bell30012 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,967 Points:622,715 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 9:40:03 AM Ignore Bell30012 Report Abuse We only hold leaders accountable. George W Bush was seen as accountable for his entire term. You don't hear any liberals saying that he wasn't responsible because Democrats had the House and Senate his last two years. Bush was responsible because he was the LEADER of our country. The same with Bill Clinton. You hear the liberals giving him credit for having a balanced budget two years in a row. But we don't mention that the Republicans controlled the House and Senate those years. President Obama is different. No one, not even the liberals see him as a leader. No one expects him to be a leader. After all, we elected a man with no leadership experience. He was never governor of a state, never a mayor of a city and never a boy scout leader. He never served a day in any uniform. Even when the Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate for the first two years. A Super Majority until their own rule change bit them in the butt! President Obama was still not responsible for anything. The reason is simple... NO ONE BELIEVES HE IS A LEADER. A leader is able to bring parties together and unite them. He/She doesn't spend their entire term demonizing the other party.
WES03 Champion Author Maryland Posts:4,980 Points:1,291,495 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 8:22:20 AM Ignore WES03 Report Abuse As long as there are gullibles, why not.
btc1 Champion Author Lexington Posts:18,052 Points:798,550 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 8:16:52 AM Ignore btc1 Report Abuse I do not know. The cons are still blaming Clinton!
goldseeker Champion Author West Virginia Posts:19,755 Points:2,746,515 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 5:02:19 AM Ignore goldseeker Report Abuse Obumer did it for 4 years, so I suppose he will do it again for 4 more years.
jacka123 Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,948 Points:1,280,115 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 4:40:24 AM Ignore jacka123 Report Abuse To what one person said about "pitching in to help", does that mean pay higher taxes. Ok, we all knew that was coming, so what's new? You can't blame that one on Bush, he lowered taxes.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,845 Points:2,929,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:18:36 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Are you for real? Obama will continue to blame the Bush administration until he is out of office in 2016.
owt Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,300 Points:1,591,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 6:18:55 PM Ignore owt Report Abuse BHO takes responsibility for nothing negative, ever noticed that? Can't think of anything postive.
RNorm Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:45,196 Points:794,555 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:50:31 PM Ignore RNorm Report Abuse Conservatives are so quick to blame everything on Obama, that there have been numerous instances where things they've blamed on Obama actually began with Bush; like the "Obamaphone"... Maybe people should stop trying to blame Obama for all of their problems and try to work towards the betterment of the entire country?
e_jeepin Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,876 Points:123,170 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:48:02 PM Ignore e_jeepin Report Abuse We still have Carter's $50B Department of Education (Established solely to micromanage State's DOE). Does it really cost $50B/year to set National Standards that all States can agree upon? No, there is $49.5B in "make-work" involved
SemiSteve Champion Author Tampa Posts:14,705 Points:258,920 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:07:20 PM Ignore SemiSteve Report Abuse When do we stop blaming and start pitching in to help fix it?
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:12,146 Points:1,226,590 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:02:20 PM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse ask joe biden
streetrider Champion Author Gary Posts:9,506 Points:141,120 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 3:17:57 PM Ignore streetrider Report Abuse When the mess they make disappears.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,846 Points:2,743,375 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 2:02:56 PM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse When will this fiscal mess that we are in become the Obama economy?
SemiSteve Champion Author Tampa Posts:14,705 Points:258,920 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 1:50:09 PM Ignore SemiSteve Report Abuse MM, best answer.
RNorm Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:45,196 Points:794,555 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 12:35:00 PM Ignore RNorm Report Abuse Probably when we stop blaming the current administration for problems that have been here LONG before Obama was elected president; some of them even before he was born.
MiddletownMarty Champion Author Connecticut Posts:17,756 Points:272,435 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 12:29:00 PM Ignore MiddletownMarty Report Abuse Assuming this is a serious question, the serious answer is that the actions of past administrations have effects that last far longer than a President's 4 or 8 year term of office. Witness the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, and the unfunded Medicare Part D, whose "benefits" we are still reaping to this day. Things don't simply revert back to square one just because another President takes office. [Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 12/28/2012 12:31:27 PM EST]
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,434 Points:672,425 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 12:12:35 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse Never will happen.