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florida1541

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 9:59:00 AM

and start holding current administrations responsible for they do ?
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 1:04:35 AM

Or there could have been a little father son conflict and he could have blame daddy. LOL
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jacka123
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 7:16:52 PM

I think George Bush should have blamed Jimmy Carter, lol.
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 4:52:49 PM

The Democrats have the perfect way to break a filibuster...

It's called compromise.
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KatmanDo
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 4:00:51 PM

"when do we stop blameing past administrations"

When they get acquitted by the International Court at the Hague.
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YDraigGoch
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 2:42:54 PM

It's perfectly proper to blame previous administrations for what they did wrong. It is also proper to equate those policies to the results we see today. Cause and effect. Nothing happens in a vacuum, not even the thought processes of fanatical political adherents.

It is also proper to blame the current administration for not being experienced enough to fix what the last one broke.

As to which one deserves the most blame, well, that is for history to decide.
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owt
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 2:12:16 PM

The media helps in all the crap.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 12:03:31 PM

RNorm - beg pardon, but Bell was correct. Read his statement, he didn't say "supermajority". The Democrats, while not holding a filibuster-proof majority for very long STILL held the overwhelming majority (what? 59 or 58 seats?) for the first two years.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 12:24:47 AM

The day EVERYTHING goes right, the administration of the day will claim FULL credit, no matter what was set in place by previous administrations. Until then, everything wrong will ALWAYS be the fault of the previous administration.
Politics, the name of the game.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 2:28:45 PM

"Even when the Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate for the first two years. "


I guess if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes true?

The Super Majority lasted only 72 DAYS...and since then, its been GOP filibuster after filibuster; setting filibuster records.

[Edited by: RNorm at 12/29/2012 2:30:29 PM EST]
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 1:45:07 PM

BTW, wasn't the sequester deal something that was meant to give the democratically controlled Senate time to do some work -- do anything?
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 10:58:10 AM

btc1 continued to babble: "I do not know. The cons are still blaming Clinton!"

--In your dreams, btc1.. in your dreams. And you uber-libs are STILL trying to "get even" any way you can for the Clinton impeachment and censure. And you have no defense for that one.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 10:30:26 AM

Yep, you are right, streetrider!
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 9:54:35 AM

btc1
Clinton ? it goes back further than that , dose Jimmy Carter ring a bell.

I think you now stand corrected.
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 9:40:03 AM

We only hold leaders accountable. George W Bush was seen as accountable for his entire term. You don't hear any liberals saying that he wasn't responsible because Democrats had the House and Senate his last two years. Bush was responsible because he was the LEADER of our country. The same with Bill Clinton. You hear the liberals giving him credit for having a balanced budget two years in a row. But we don't mention that the Republicans controlled the House and Senate those years.

President Obama is different. No one, not even the liberals see him as a leader. No one expects him to be a leader. After all, we elected a man with no leadership experience. He was never governor of a state, never a mayor of a city and never a boy scout leader. He never served a day in any uniform.

Even when the Democrats had a majority in the House and Senate for the first two years. A Super Majority until their own rule change bit them in the butt! President Obama was still not responsible for anything. The reason is simple... NO ONE BELIEVES HE IS A LEADER. A leader is able to bring parties together and unite them. He/She doesn't spend their entire term demonizing the other party.
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WES03
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 8:22:20 AM

As long as there are gullibles, why not.
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btc1
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 8:16:52 AM

I do not know. The cons are still blaming Clinton!
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 5:02:19 AM

Obumer did it for 4 years, so I suppose he will do it again for 4 more years.
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jacka123
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 4:40:24 AM

To what one person said about "pitching in to help", does that mean pay higher taxes. Ok, we all knew that was coming, so what's new? You can't blame that one on Bush, he lowered taxes.
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AC-302
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:18:36 PM

Are you for real? Obama will continue to blame the Bush administration until he is out of office in 2016.
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owt
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 6:18:55 PM

BHO takes responsibility for nothing negative, ever noticed that? Can't think of anything postive.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:50:31 PM

Conservatives are so quick to blame everything on Obama, that there have been numerous instances where things they've blamed on Obama actually began with Bush; like the "Obamaphone"...

Maybe people should stop trying to blame Obama for all of their problems and try to work towards the betterment of the entire country?
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e_jeepin
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:48:02 PM

We still have Carter's $50B Department of Education (Established solely to micromanage State's DOE).

Does it really cost $50B/year to set National Standards that all States can agree upon?

No, there is $49.5B in "make-work" involved
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:07:20 PM

When do we stop blaming and start pitching in to help fix it?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 4:02:20 PM

ask joe biden
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streetrider
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 3:17:57 PM

When the mess they make disappears.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 2:02:56 PM

When will this fiscal mess that we are in become the Obama economy?
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SemiSteve
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 1:50:09 PM

MM, best answer.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 12:35:00 PM

Probably when we stop blaming the current administration for problems that have been here LONG before Obama was elected president; some of them even before he was born.
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MiddletownMarty
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 12:29:00 PM

Assuming this is a serious question, the serious answer is that the actions of past administrations have effects that last far longer than a President's 4 or 8 year term of office. Witness the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, and the unfunded Medicare Part D, whose "benefits" we are still reaping to this day.

Things don't simply revert back to square one just because another President takes office.


[Edited by: MiddletownMarty at 12/28/2012 12:31:27 PM EST]
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 12:12:35 PM

Never will happen.
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