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Michiganian

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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 4:11:46 PM

Just ask the survivors at Columbine HS, Fort Hood and Virginia Tech.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 1:35:34 PM

""nearly all of the illegal copycat/look-alike prescription drugs from china, contain lead, including viagra" -> "lead in his pencil".

Should be obvious."

I stand corrected! It was indeed obvious...
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 12:55:33 PM

Weaslespit - "What was the point of this gibberish? I hope that jd doesn't think that pencils actually contain 'lead'..."

"nearly all of the illegal copycat/look-alike prescription drugs from china, contain lead, including viagra" -> "lead in his pencil".

Should be obvious.
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 10:12:45 AM

It was intended as a joke, Weaslespit, obviously.

Oh, wait, please, allow me to help you understand:

joke /jok/

noun

noun: joke; plural noun: jokes

1. a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:58:28 AM

"kinda self defeating, some poor guy wants lead in his pencil and lead kills the brain cells that tells the pencil to not take on blood, how stupid is that?"

What was the point of this gibberish? I hope that jd doesn't think that pencils actually contain 'lead'...
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:58:13 PM

[L=http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/07/22/text deleted antigun brain pharts that phailed.......[/L]
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According to ABC 7 Los Angeles, a man in his 40s was shot in the early morning hours "and rushed to Holy Cross Medical Center, where he died."

Police believe the gunman may have gang ties, but the victim did not.

On July 9, Breitbart News reported there had been two robberies at Target stores within one week of Target interim CEO John Mulligan "respectfully" asking law-abiding shoppers to leave their guns at home.

A similar pattern was observed at Jack in the Box stores, after they too asked law-abiding customers not to bring guns to their restaurants. Within two weeks of making that request, two Jack in the Box stores were robbed, and a shooting took place at a third.<<<What does it take to get some people to understand that telling everyone that this is supposed to be a "gun free zone" is not really a good idea....
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:45:54 PM

Kind of sounds like their "gun free" idea doesnt work too well.
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 3:22:17 AM

Beretta Usa Salary
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 1:06:21 AM

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. Beretta moving to Tennessee so can pay starvation wages... the employees they put out of jobs were all gun owners/supporters...
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johnnyg1200
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 10:29:11 PM

In the latest of gun manufactures fleeing states with laws that are not gun friendly Beretta is moving all of its manufacturing to Tennessee. This is about 300 good paying manufacturing jobs that will leave the state of Maryland.

Manufactures have left or expanded operations outside of states they had been entrenched for decades. Colorado, New York, Connecticut, and now Maryland have all lost good paying manufacturing jobs and the tax revenue that goes with them. All of these states have one thing in common, very restrictive gun laws. It will be interesting to see what happens in these states.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 4:57:26 PM

"Make sure you have your duck stamp, your shotgun is loaded, and apply the proper amount of lead."

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steel shot, lead shot is illegal when hunting ducks and most other upland birds or game now-a-days.

courtesy of EPA, and other such orgs

mean while, we still get lead based products in by the ton/boat load from china and our US Govt does little to combat that. don't get me wrong, they try, but far too much gets in, i saw a report on a medical show where nearly all of the illegal copycat/look-alike prescription drugs from china, contain lead, including viagra - kinda self defeating, some poor guy wants lead in his pencil and lead kills the brain cells that tells the pencil to not take on blood, how stupid is that?
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 4:01:26 PM

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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 1:59:16 AM

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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 12:18:47 AM

"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

Make sure you have your duck stamp, your shotgun is loaded, and apply the proper amount of lead.

Because duck stew is delicious!

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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 12:14:37 AM

jeskibuff - "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

OTOH, if you're not a duck, but you hate and fear ducks, everything looks like a duck.
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 8:19:43 AM

Weaslespit said: >Still funny that you 'know' I am a Liberal. Talk about "FantasyLand"<

There's that old saying...

"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."
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Troller_Diesel
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 6:41:09 AM

rjhenn: "The right to self defense is a fundamental human right.

The 2nd Amendment just formalizes that right."

This is where "reality" runs into "newspeak."

Basically, you and I would consider the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right, granted by birthright.

Leftists don't believe in individual rights, they believe in "human" or "group" rights.

While at first glance, they seem like one and the same thing, in reality, they aren't even close... In Leftist Newspeak, human "rights" should actually be more accurately defined as human "privileges."

In other words, while you and I would consider the individual right something that government cannot infringe on, a leftist would consider a human "right" something that the government must provide.

And they define "safety" as a human right, which trumps your individual rights.

Think of it as the difference between individual determination (conservatism - actually Classical Liberalism), as opposed to collectivism (modern liberalism, aka Marxism.)

The amazing thing to me is that Progressives really can't comprehend that socialism isn't actually Marxist in origin, and their brand of leftism is very much closer to what Karl Marx envisioned in his little book that has caused at least 100 million unnecessary deaths...

Note the party, the Democrats, espousing "democracy" or "rule of the people." championing group rights as opposed to individual rights, aka:

Tyranny of the majority.

Note the language: "We won." "It's the law."

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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 6:17:39 AM

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< rjhenn wrote: "Buzz, you really need to find sources that aren't steeped in propaganda." >

. That's why I don't use you as a source...

. BTW, what's your fixation on Sudetenland, it's the only thing you ever talk about? Your family from there?
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 1:09:32 AM

BuzzLOL - ". Wrongo... The Hitlerites are bombing the cities of east Ukraine like Hitler bombed London... and Russia/Putin aren't bombing anyone..."

Buzz, you really need to find sources that aren't steeped in propaganda.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 5:07:52 PM

< BuzzLOL - ". That wasn't the end of the Hitler story, I'd suggest you read all the way to April 30, 1945... and beyond..." >
< rjhenn: "As far as its relevance to Putin, we're only up to 1938." >

. Wrongo... The Hitlerites are bombing the cities of east Ukraine like Hitler bombed London... and Russia/Putin aren't bombing anyone...
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[Edited by: BuzzLOL at 7/19/2014 5:08:40 PM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 2:10:02 PM

BuzzLOL - "++++++++++ Gun Rights Restored In Washington, D.C. +++++++++++"

Sounds like the Inquisitr and Ms. Dodrill need a course in American Government. The fact that House passed a bill doesn't make it law. It's still got to go through the Senate.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:58:50 PM

BuzzLOL - ". That wasn't the end of the Hitler story, I'd suggest you read all the way to April 30, 1945... and beyond..."

As far as its relevance to Putin, we're only up to 1938.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:52:19 PM

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++++++++++ Gun Rights Restored In Washington, D.C. +++++++++++

"Gun rights were restored to Washington, D.C. residents after an amendment passed by the House of Representative this week. The legislation would prohibit the District of Columbia from spending money to enforce local gun laws, effectively nullifying statutes. The bill also applied to fingerprint requirements and registration processing for gun owners."
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:47:35 PM

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< "BuzzLOL - ". Hitler didn't "defend" people, he attacked people" " >

< "I'd suggest that you read up on the Sudetenland crisis in 1938." >

. That wasn't the end of the Hitler story, I'd suggest you read all the way to April 30, 1945... and beyond...
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:19:59 PM

The right to self defense is a fundamental human right.

The 2nd Amendment just formalizes that right.
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 8:22:22 PM

The second amendment is a civil right.
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 5:33:46 PM

You do know that politics isn't about issues any more, if it ever was.

It's "Rah rah! for my side." Issues and real problems are secondary to cheering for your team.

It's the (insert your favorite team sport here) mentality.

Running a country reduced to pro wrestling.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 3:56:00 PM

"Only in your little liberal FantasyLand!"

Still funny that you 'know' I am a Liberal. Talk about "FantasyLand" :)
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 2:53:03 PM

Weaslespit said: "I'm still ahead."

Only in your little liberal FantasyLand!
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jeskibuff
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 2:51:38 PM

oilpan4 said: "The gun hating gun fearing liberals would love to have another Trayvon/Zimmerman fiasco."

...to which BuzzLOL responded: "WHY? That didn't exactly work out well for the gunbrabbers or the blacks in the end...!!!"

Since when has repeated failure deterred liberals from trying the same thing over and over again?

[Edited by: jeskibuff at 7/18/2014 2:52:00 PM EST]
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rjhenn
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 1:19:25 PM

BuzzLOL - ". Hitler didn't "defend" people, he attacked people"

I'd suggest that you read up on the Sudetenland crisis in 1938.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 11:41:55 AM

"The gun hating gun fearing liberals would love to have another Trayvon/Zimmerman fiasco."

Sad when 'either' sad would 'love' another tragedy to push an agenda...
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 11:41:07 AM

"If you had a clue, I compared the reactions to the self-defense actions of two different-colored people after they were assaulted by black perpetrator(s)."

LOL, like I said, you equated Zimmerman following Martin and then being 'attacked' the same as a carjacking.

SMH

"The only MAJOR difference between the two cases is the most recent perp didn't die..."

ROTFLOL!!!! Oh my... thanks for that!

"Please do try to keep up."

No need, I'm still ahead. Just take your head out of the hole in the ground and have a look-see ;)
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 9:50:25 AM

BuzzLOL, your replies indicate you have absolutely no comprehension whatsoever of what "rjhenn wrote."

Seriously.

And you didn't seem to understand oilpan4's comment either.

May I suggest that if you don't understand someone's point that perhaps you should ask questions or request clarification?
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 5:02:35 AM

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< rjhenn wrote: "Actually, he's (Putin) the one who sounds like Hitler, talking about the need to defend "ethnic Russians", who aren't even Russian citizens. Shades of the Sudetenland in 1938." >

. Hitler didn't "defend" people, he attacked people... just like the Roman Catholic Hitlerites of west Ukraine are doing in the east... unless you figure Hitler was defending the 'Germans' in Poland and Bulgaria and Finland and Norway and UK and France and North Africa and USA...

< oilpan4 wroteThe gun hating gun fearing liberals would love to have another Trayvon/Zimmerman fiasco." >

. WHY? That didn't exactly work out well for the gunbrabbers or the blacks in the end...!!!

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[Edited by: BuzzLOL at 7/18/2014 5:06:28 AM EST]
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 12:00:03 AM

The gun hating gun fearing liberals would love to have another Trayvon/Zimmerman fiasco.
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 6:05:02 PM

Weaslespit said: "You compared the Trayvon tragedy to an active carjacking and kept a straight face? Really?"

If you had a clue, I compared the reactions to the self-defense actions of two different-colored people after they were assaulted by black perpetrator(s). The only MAJOR difference between the two cases is the most recent perp didn't die, but I don't think that would have raised much of a stink because the shooter was black.

Please do try to keep up.

[Edited by: jeskibuff at 7/17/2014 6:07:09 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 4:04:08 PM

"It's just a good thing that she's black, otherwise it'd be another Trayvon/Zimmerman fiasco."

You compared the Trayvon tragedy to an active carjacking and kept a straight face? Really?

SMH
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 11:54:19 AM

BuzzLOL - "She's fighting for freedom against the Catholic Hitlerites of west Ukraine"

Uh huh. You've been listening too much to Putin.

Actually, he's the one who sounds like Hitler, talking about the need to defend "ethnic Russians", who aren't even Russian citizens. Shades of the Sudetenland in 1938.
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 11:40:23 AM

BuzzLOL - "+ Dem. Gov. Vetoes Armed Teachers +"

“Arming teachers will not make our schools safer,” Gov. Jay Nixon, a Democrat, said in a statement after rejecting the bill. “I cannot condone putting firearms in the hands of educators who should be focused on teaching our kids.”

So, basically, pure ideology, poorly disguised as reason.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 9:11:38 PM

It looks like the NRA is working fine to me.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:44:43 PM

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+ Gun-toting pro-Russia beauty spotted in eastern Ukraine rebels +

+ A Real Blonde Bombshell +
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. She's fighting for freedom against the Catholic Hitlerites of west Ukraine... maybe I'll enlist... hope her picture being on the 'net doesn't get her killed...
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:07:55 PM

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+ * Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms * sues Eric Holder over interstate handgun sales +

. "with financial support from the * Second Amendment Foundation *, filed a federal lawsuit today against Attorney General Eric Holder challenging the current federal law prohibiting cross-state handgun purchases."

"Also named in the lawsuit is B. Todd Jones, director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives."
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+ Gun Rights Group Sue U.S. Attorney General and ATF +
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 7:58:02 PM

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+++ Missouri Law That Would Allow Teachers To Carry Guns Gets Vetoed +++

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/15/missouri-law-that-would-allow-teachers-to-carry-guns-gets-vetoed/#ixzz37g9EE8XO

+ Dem. Gov. Vetoes Armed Teachers +

. Would rather spend the money to pay police to loaf around in schools...
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 7:21:18 PM

"A 51-year-old woman accidentally shot herself in the face after she slammed the butt end of a shotgun on the floor, causing it to discharge, the Tuscola County Sheriff's Department reports.

Deputies were called about 10 a.m. Monday, July 14, to a house on Waterman in Fremont Township for a report of a gunshot victim.

Upon arrival, deputies found that a family dispute had taken place and the victim, a 51-year-old woman, told officers that she had taken a shotgun out to "make a point."

She told police she slammed the butt end on the floor, the gun discharged, and she was shot in the face.

FlightCare transported the victim to St. Mary's of Michigan in Saginaw, and she is expected to recover, police said. The complaint remains under investigation".

So. Whats the point?
Don't buy a gun that can't pass a drop test?
I'll agree to that.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 6:29:45 PM

Jeski when I saw the article I didnt notice what color her skin was until I read it a second time.

My first thought was "good job lady".

After I did notice what color her skin was my second thought was "good job lady".

[Edited by: flyboyUT at 7/16/2014 6:30:45 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 6:08:04 PM

flyboyUT said: "I think all her neighbors should get together and buy her a box of shells for her gun."

It's just a good thing that she's black, otherwise it'd be another Trayvon/Zimmerman fiasco.

"Oh, they just be huggin' on the white girl. Why'd she go and shoot him?"

"'Cannon' be just another word for 'Skittles'. He axed his fren to get the bag a Skittles. Why'd she shoot him for dat?"

Looks like the one "good guy[gal] with a gun" not only stopped herself from being a victim, but put the kibosh on a group responsible for quite a few crimes. The "recent shooting" victim was shot in the face. Nice!
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 6:22:42 PM

The idea worked just fine here - Good guy is fine - thug is in the hospital and facing trial.
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>>>A Milwaukee nurse who shot an attempted carjacker likely helped break up a criminal ring that police believe has been involved in a string of robberies and carjackings as well as a recent shooting.

Two teenagers — a 15-year-old and a 17-year-old — tried to steal Victoria Davison’s car last month while she was in it, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

“I want the keys, car, everything,” commanded one of the teens, according to Davison.

Davison hesitated, prompting one teen to tell the other, “Go get the cannon” — a reference to his gun.

But Davison had a “cannon” of her own and pulled it out of her gym bag. She fired, hitting the 15-year-old.

“I shot the one that was in front of me. The one in the back of me, he said a curse word, and then he looked at his friend, and then he ran off while his friend was on the ground,” Davison told WISN.

“I mean he’s 15, but he’s making adult decisions,” said Davison, a concealed carry permit holder.

The teen is currently in serious condition at a Milwaukee hospital and is in police custody.<<<

I think all her neighbors should get together and buy her a box of shells for her gun.
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 5:19:55 PM

"I disagree. You should 'always' be leery of people toting semiautomatic weapons in public. That 'is' the proper education..."

Unless they're wearing a police or military uniform, correct?

But if they take their uniform off, and walk around "toting" semiautomatic weapons in public then they're somehow dangerous?

Why do so many liberals suffer from hoplophobia?

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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 4:44:52 PM

"A 51-year-old woman accidentally shot herself in the face after she slammed the butt end of a shotgun on the floor,"

Nominated for Darwin Award.
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 4:06:37 PM

Michigan woman pulls out shotgun 'to make a point,' accidentally shoots herself in the face


A 51-year-old woman accidentally shot herself in the face after she slammed the butt end of a shotgun on the floor, causing it to discharge, the Tuscola County Sheriff's Department reports.

Deputies were called about 10 a.m. Monday, July 14, to a house on Waterman in Fremont Township for a report of a gunshot victim.

Upon arrival, deputies found that a family dispute had taken place and the victim, a 51-year-old woman, told officers that she had taken a shotgun out to "make a point."

She told police she slammed the butt end on the floor, the gun discharged, and she was shot in the face.

FlightCare transported the victim to St. Mary's of Michigan in Saginaw, and she is expected to recover, police said. The complaint remains under investigation.



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