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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 4:11:46 PM

Just ask the survivors at Columbine HS, Fort Hood and Virginia Tech.
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 7:53:31 AM

It worked well in that hospital in Philly last week.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 6:19:12 PM

BuzzLOL said: "You would sound smarter if pointed out SKS had milled receiver and early AK47 had stamped receiver"

And YOU would sound smarter if you JUST SHUT UP!!! Practically every word coming off your keyboard has apparently been marinated in highly concentrated stupidity!
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 10:21:21 PM

Now you are telling me how different they are. An hour ago they were the same design.

See, you get a lot more out of Wikipedia articles when you read them and don't just look at the pictures to draw conclusions.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 9:21:16 PM

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< oilpan4 wrote: "How can one be full auto with detachable mag and the other one semi auto with a fixed box magazine and be the same design?" >

. Same way military M16's can be selectable full auto and civilian M16's not be... slight difference in the little sear...

. You would sound smarter if pointed out SKS had milled receiver and early AK47 had stamped receiver... looked very different... of course, they couldn't hold tight enough dimensions on the stamped receiver, so AK's went to milled receiver, also...

. Maybe I'll post a picture of me with my assault rifle with 30 round banana clip installed...

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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 8:58:01 PM

" SKS just another brand name for same basic rifle design as later AK47... varying mainly in barrel length and stock/grip design"

You obviously don't know anything about these two weapons. Any one who calls an SKS and an AK47 the same design is absolutely gun ignorant.
The SKS had a fixed non detachable 10 round magazine loaded by stripper clip or pushed into the magazine 1 at a time. The AK47 had detachable mag that held up to 30 rounds. The AK was almost always full auto, the SKS was semi auto only.
How can one be full auto with detachable mag and the other one semi auto with a fixed box magazine and be the same design?
About the only 2 things the SKS and AK47 had in common was the gas system was similar and ammo was the same.
Since I know none of that means anything to you I will break it down in a way you can understand:
So aside from being completely different aside from their ammo yeah they are pretty much the same they way they fall into the liberal evil looking black assault rifle category.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 7:37:35 PM

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< Johnny wrote: "The only way to hit a bar with one on full auto is to be standing in it with the doors closed." >

. Speaking of shooting in a bar, a local bar here had an unbelievable shooting inside with various people shooting 24+ shots at each other across a pool table, etc. caught on video security camera... same thing happened in a strip club about 3 years later... it's all REAL...:

+ Video: Shootout inside Route 66 Bar +

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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 7:21:10 PM

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< oilpan4 wrote: "All causalities were not due to AK47. they also used a lot of SKS rifles" >

. SKS just another brand name for same basic rifle design as later AK47... varying mainly in barrel length and stock/grip design...

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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 6:23:11 PM

"Tell that to the 58,000 U.S. Troops killed by one in EvilJFK's War on Vietnam..."

All causalities were not due to AK47.
Charley mastered booby traps, IEDs and mines, they also used a lot of SKS rifles.
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 3:19:28 PM

One more case of the NRA's idea working just fine.

One perp dead, one almost - the homeowner did just fine......

[Edited by: flyboyUT at 7/26/2014 3:19:40 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 9:31:34 PM

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< "an AK-47. They don't jam as easily as an M-16/AR-15 ... They are not accurate" >

. Tell that to the 58,000 U.S. Troops killed by one in EvilJFK's War on Vietnam...

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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 8:57:23 PM

I was given the chance to fire an AK-47. They don't jam as easily as an M-16/AR-15 but you couldn't give me one. They are not accurate and on full auto they walk up and right, hard. The only way to hit a bar with one on full auto is to be standing in it with the doors closed.
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 7:32:40 PM

Like I said Oilpan - its not the firearm that is good or bad - it is the person holding it.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 7:29:52 PM

"Once again the point I was trying to make is that trying to ban a "ugly" rifle that has a thirty cartridge detachable magazine because people are afraid of how many bullets it shoots in a short time is dumb when we had something like millions of shotguns made over 100 years ago and sold to the public that could shoot similar rates of "projectiles" per short unit of time".

I have qualified as marksmen with the generally illegal to own M16A2 when I was air force active duty when I was under Hubert fields mission where you actually use the 3 round burst as part of qualifying.
Still would rather have my perfectly "civilian legal" to own semi auto shot gun over an M16A2.
I never though I would see the day were I was unimpressed with a "machine gun".

Another strike against high rate of fire, the L.A. county bank robbery, the robbers both has full auto AK47 and they only managed to kill one person with it, when one of the robbers pointed the gun at his head and pulled the trigger. They injured 17 cops and another 20 to 30 civilians. But that's what a assault rifle type machine gun does with its ridiculous rate of fire, it inflicts casualties not always deaths.
I wouldn't have believed it if I had not watched it live on TV as it happened.
Had they used semi auto AR15 and walmart hunting ammo and actually taken aimed shots and fired 10% of the ammo compared to what they sprayed everywhere with the AKs it would have been a very different story.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 6:18:47 PM

I'm waiting for the anti gun lobby to claim this doctor did not stop a mass murder. The "logic" will be there is no evidence that a mass murder was about to happen so it can't be proved that one was stopped. If the suspect had reached the level of mass murder/shooting ( I think its three dead or wounded) then the anti gun lobby would say the doctor didn't stop the mass murder.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 6:13:41 PM

weasle it doesnt really matter a whole lot in a close range situation - a school or movie theater thing - if they are rifle bullets at about 2400 FPS or pure lead round balls at about 1500 FPS. They are still bullets or projectiles or whatever you want to call them.

Once again the point I was trying to make is that trying to ban a "ugly" rifle that has a thirty cartridge detachable magazine because people are afraid of how many bullets it shoots in a short time is dumb when we had something like millions of shotguns made over 100 years ago and sold to the public that could shoot similar rates of "projectiles" per short unit of time.

Once more you desire to avoid the whole point of the discussion it seems. That the firearm is not the real problem - people are.

Now do you get the idea - ----- trying to ban a firearm because it looks different and shoots from a larger magazine doesnt really mean diddly squat in terms of reducing misuse of firearms. Once more and maybe, I hope, for the last time - its not the firearm that is dangerous - its the person using it.

By the way you will probably be pleased with the 870 - its a well made firearm....
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 5:15:26 PM

"Liberals don't do math."

Fly's math isn't what is in question... Just his misuse of the term 'rounds per minute' in falsely applying them to shotgun projectiles...

He is spot-on until he starts to multiply his 36 shots per minute by the number of balls in a given shell size.

Oh-well!

[Edited by: Weaslespit at 7/25/2014 5:17:25 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 5:08:54 PM

"Why should I congratulate you on doing an everyday normal activity?"

As you are decidedly pro-gun guy, I thought we could share a moment of partisanship...

"You are one strange person my friend."

We all have our faults.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:44:28 PM

SE3.5 said: >It should be noted that the good doctor's work place was a "gun free zone".<

And you just have to wonder what kind of repercussions he's going to suffer from violating the rules and thus saving the day.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:08:14 PM

" I imagine the perp was quite shocked to discover he was not the only one carrying."

I am sure that was not part of the mass murders plan. I am sure the original plan was to go from defenseless person to defenseless person executing each one until his ammo supply or victim supply ran out.

"what will you reply with - I can hardly wait".....

Liberals don't do math.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:04:52 PM

Why should I congratulate you on doing an everyday normal activity?

You are one strange person my friend.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:01:27 PM

"Now on to the scurrilous attacks by the weasle once more.

Wow... 'scurrilous'? Overstating yourself just a bit, eh? ;)

I thought you would congratulate me on my purchase!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 3:54:23 PM

Now on to the scurrilous attacks by the weasle once more. If you will remember the discussion was about how many 22 caliber bullets could be fired in how long a time and why the attempted bans on .223 rifles with a 30 round magazine were a joke.
Weasle start reading here if your able.

If you can remember I said that I used to own a M97 and that they are capable of something called "slam fire". That is if you hold the trigger down every time you pump the pump and the action slams shut the gun will fire. Your 870 will not do this as far as I know. Anyhow the M97 held 5 in the magazine and one in the chamber. For people who need help weasle that is a total of 6 rounds. Here is an example of what I was saying weasle. Now after that event someone with a modicum of dexterity can reload in less that 5 seconds. Lets just assume the whole evolution from firing to reloading takes a maximum of ten seconds.

Now weasle if you remember there really are 60 seconds in a minute. Therefore since you seem to be math challenged that means the evolution can be done 6 times a minute. But to continue --- if it can be done six times a minute and if there are six rounds in each that seems to indicate a total of 36 shots per minute - hey weasle are you still with us????

Now as I said before there is a 2 3/4 inch 12 gauge shotgun shell that is loaded with #4 buckshot. The size of a #4 buckshot is 22 caliber. The cartridge happens to have 27 of these per shell. Now watch out weasle here comes some more of that difficult math stuff - 27 22 caliber bullets per shell times 36 shells equals 972 bullets sent downrange per minute.

Now weasle that is a conservative amount of bullets per minute because it just might be done faster you know which would result in a higher rate of 22 caliber bullets sent downrange. There is a reason that particular shotgun was nicknamed the trench sweeper in WW I.

Weasle you may remember (I hope you do) that this whole exercise started as a result of people saying that we needed to ban "assault guns" that could shoot so many 22 caliber (5.56 or 223) bullets in such a short time. I said that it was silly on the face of it because we had a firearm that was first made almost 120 years ago that could do the same or more.
Oh yeah - just to mess with you some more ---- Here someone fires 12 rounds in less than 1.5 (that one and one half) seconds. So back to elementary math. Assuming he was using the same shell with 27 22 caliber bullets that kind of works out to be 324 22 caliber bullets fired downrange in less than 1.5 seconds weasle. Oh yeah for your further disgruntlement - that shotgun is a legal gun to buy from your local store..... Just to mess with you some more --- that does in fact work out to a "rate of fire" of over 12,000 rounds a minute.
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Now weasle what will you reply with - I can hardly wait.....
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[Edited by: flyboyUT at 7/25/2014 3:57:44 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 3:21:08 PM

It seems that some time back other officials in this place had similar ideas
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>>>On July 23, Boston Police Commissioner William Evans told Boston Public Radio (WGBH) that residents of Boston do not need shotguns or rifles.

He said these things in response to Massachusetts state senator Stan Rosenberg's (D) position that there are already "sufficient controls" on long guns at the federal level and, therefore, no need for new state laws giving police additional powers to deny ownership to citizens.

According to WGBH, Evans responded:

I don't agree with that. Having long guns--rifles and shotguns--especially here in the city of Boston. I think we should have, as the local authority, some say in the matter. [And] the federal [government] doesn't really allow us to have the discretion that we want in these particular cases.

...For the most part, nobody in the city needs a shotgun. Nobody needs a rifle.

Evans went on to restate his position that he ultimately wants to have "discretion" over who is allowed to have a shotgun or rifle.<<<

I do think that was tried by this guy - after all those people have no need for them things.
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>>>On the 15 of April 1775, when General Thomas Gage, British Military Governor of Massachusetts, was ordered to destroy the rebel's military stores at Concord. To accomplish this he assembled the "Flanking units", including Light Infantry and Grenadiers, from his Boston Garrison. In charge he put Lieutenant Colonel Francis Smith and Marine Major John Pitcairn. He also composed a relief column under the command of Lord Hugh Percy to leave 6 hours after the main column. In an attempt at secrecy he did not tell his officers his plan until the last minute. The problem with his security measures were that Boston had become a glass fishbowl. All rebel eyes were watching to see the British' next action, and when the garrison committed to an action, the Americans knew their every move.

At midnight on the 19th of April the British column, consisting of 650-900 troops left Boston, crossed the Charles River, followed closely by the alarm rider Paul Revere. As the British marched towards Concord, the entire countryside had been alerted to their presence, and rebel militia was deployed to meet them.

Until this time there was no armed resistance to the British that had resulted in loss of British life. Several Months earlier, Gage had attempted to destroy miliary arms at Salem and met with resistance but no shots were fired, and the British retreated without completing their objective. Lexington Militia Captain John Parker had heard of the events at Salem, and collected his men on Lexington Green to face the British column.<<<

My my my how the attitudes of some people have changed in a few hundred years..... I do believe that it is people like this Evans character ( a tory at heart it seems) that caused folks to insist that the 2nd be part of our founding documents.


[Edited by: flyboyUT at 7/25/2014 3:22:06 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 3:12:33 PM

"Doctor Saves Lives with GUN !!!"

It should be noted that the good doctor's work place was a "gun free zone". I imagine the perp was quite shocked to discover he was not the only one carrying.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 2:13:24 PM

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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 1:56:37 PM

Lol, I love the anecdotal evidence that keeps popping up here, especially as if to defend the 2nd Amendment from 'hordes' of people demanding it be repealed

Just purchased my Remington 870 last weekend - really going to floor my friends when they see it shoots 10,000 rounds per minute when we test drive it (or whatever the number was that fly indicated ;) ).

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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 10:41:40 AM

2nd Amendment WORKS Just Fine !!!

Doctor Saves Lives with GUN !!!
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 8:37:48 PM

flyboyUT said: >Kind of sounds like their "gun free" idea doesnt work too well.<

It must've just been that the criminal was illiterate and couldn't read what the sign said. Perhaps the school needs to have a fee-free class for the local criminal element on identifying signs so that they won't be in violation of the law next time.

Maybe the final exam will have all the criminals bring their pieces into the classroom and have the teacher hold up different signs in front...

"No littering" - all the guns remain trained on the teacher
"No gun zone" - all the guns are dropped on the floor and kicked under someone else's desk
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 1:35:34 PM

""nearly all of the illegal copycat/look-alike prescription drugs from china, contain lead, including viagra" -> "lead in his pencil".

Should be obvious."

I stand corrected! It was indeed obvious...
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 12:55:33 PM

Weaslespit - "What was the point of this gibberish? I hope that jd doesn't think that pencils actually contain 'lead'..."

"nearly all of the illegal copycat/look-alike prescription drugs from china, contain lead, including viagra" -> "lead in his pencil".

Should be obvious.
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 10:12:45 AM

It was intended as a joke, Weaslespit, obviously.

Oh, wait, please, allow me to help you understand:

joke /jok/

noun

noun: joke; plural noun: jokes

1. a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline.
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 9:58:28 AM

"kinda self defeating, some poor guy wants lead in his pencil and lead kills the brain cells that tells the pencil to not take on blood, how stupid is that?"

What was the point of this gibberish? I hope that jd doesn't think that pencils actually contain 'lead'...
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:58:13 PM

[L=http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/07/22/text deleted antigun brain pharts that phailed.......[/L]
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According to ABC 7 Los Angeles, a man in his 40s was shot in the early morning hours "and rushed to Holy Cross Medical Center, where he died."

Police believe the gunman may have gang ties, but the victim did not.

On July 9, Breitbart News reported there had been two robberies at Target stores within one week of Target interim CEO John Mulligan "respectfully" asking law-abiding shoppers to leave their guns at home.

A similar pattern was observed at Jack in the Box stores, after they too asked law-abiding customers not to bring guns to their restaurants. Within two weeks of making that request, two Jack in the Box stores were robbed, and a shooting took place at a third.<<<What does it take to get some people to understand that telling everyone that this is supposed to be a "gun free zone" is not really a good idea....
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 4:45:54 PM

Kind of sounds like their "gun free" idea doesnt work too well.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 3:22:17 AM

Beretta Usa Salary
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 1:06:21 AM

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 10:29:11 PM

In the latest of gun manufactures fleeing states with laws that are not gun friendly Beretta is moving all of its manufacturing to Tennessee. This is about 300 good paying manufacturing jobs that will leave the state of Maryland.

Manufactures have left or expanded operations outside of states they had been entrenched for decades. Colorado, New York, Connecticut, and now Maryland have all lost good paying manufacturing jobs and the tax revenue that goes with them. All of these states have one thing in common, very restrictive gun laws. It will be interesting to see what happens in these states.
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 4:57:26 PM

"Make sure you have your duck stamp, your shotgun is loaded, and apply the proper amount of lead."

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steel shot, lead shot is illegal when hunting ducks and most other upland birds or game now-a-days.

courtesy of EPA, and other such orgs

mean while, we still get lead based products in by the ton/boat load from china and our US Govt does little to combat that. don't get me wrong, they try, but far too much gets in, i saw a report on a medical show where nearly all of the illegal copycat/look-alike prescription drugs from china, contain lead, including viagra - kinda self defeating, some poor guy wants lead in his pencil and lead kills the brain cells that tells the pencil to not take on blood, how stupid is that?
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. Osama bin Laden's own personal assault rifle, a custom AK47, is on display at the Secret CIA Museum... Ark of the Covenant may also be there... Yahoo News visited the museum... public not allowed in...
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 12:18:47 AM

"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

Make sure you have your duck stamp, your shotgun is loaded, and apply the proper amount of lead.

Because duck stew is delicious!

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jeskibuff - "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

OTOH, if you're not a duck, but you hate and fear ducks, everything looks like a duck.
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 8:19:43 AM

Weaslespit said: >Still funny that you 'know' I am a Liberal. Talk about "FantasyLand"<

There's that old saying...

"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."
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rjhenn: "The right to self defense is a fundamental human right.

The 2nd Amendment just formalizes that right."

This is where "reality" runs into "newspeak."

Basically, you and I would consider the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right, granted by birthright.

Leftists don't believe in individual rights, they believe in "human" or "group" rights.

While at first glance, they seem like one and the same thing, in reality, they aren't even close... In Leftist Newspeak, human "rights" should actually be more accurately defined as human "privileges."

In other words, while you and I would consider the individual right something that government cannot infringe on, a leftist would consider a human "right" something that the government must provide.

And they define "safety" as a human right, which trumps your individual rights.

Think of it as the difference between individual determination (conservatism - actually Classical Liberalism), as opposed to collectivism (modern liberalism, aka Marxism.)

The amazing thing to me is that Progressives really can't comprehend that socialism isn't actually Marxist in origin, and their brand of leftism is very much closer to what Karl Marx envisioned in his little book that has caused at least 100 million unnecessary deaths...

Note the party, the Democrats, espousing "democracy" or "rule of the people." championing group rights as opposed to individual rights, aka:

Tyranny of the majority.

Note the language: "We won." "It's the law."

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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 6:17:39 AM

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< rjhenn wrote: "Buzz, you really need to find sources that aren't steeped in propaganda." >

. That's why I don't use you as a source...

. BTW, what's your fixation on Sudetenland, it's the only thing you ever talk about? Your family from there?
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 1:09:32 AM

BuzzLOL - ". Wrongo... The Hitlerites are bombing the cities of east Ukraine like Hitler bombed London... and Russia/Putin aren't bombing anyone..."

Buzz, you really need to find sources that aren't steeped in propaganda.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 5:07:52 PM

< BuzzLOL - ". That wasn't the end of the Hitler story, I'd suggest you read all the way to April 30, 1945... and beyond..." >
< rjhenn: "As far as its relevance to Putin, we're only up to 1938." >

. Wrongo... The Hitlerites are bombing the cities of east Ukraine like Hitler bombed London... and Russia/Putin aren't bombing anyone...
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 2:10:02 PM

BuzzLOL - "++++++++++ Gun Rights Restored In Washington, D.C. +++++++++++"

Sounds like the Inquisitr and Ms. Dodrill need a course in American Government. The fact that House passed a bill doesn't make it law. It's still got to go through the Senate.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:58:50 PM

BuzzLOL - ". That wasn't the end of the Hitler story, I'd suggest you read all the way to April 30, 1945... and beyond..."

As far as its relevance to Putin, we're only up to 1938.
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 1:52:19 PM

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++++++++++ Gun Rights Restored In Washington, D.C. +++++++++++

"Gun rights were restored to Washington, D.C. residents after an amendment passed by the House of Representative this week. The legislation would prohibit the District of Columbia from spending money to enforce local gun laws, effectively nullifying statutes. The bill also applied to fingerprint requirements and registration processing for gun owners."
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