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teacher_tim

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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 7:45:58 AM

" First-term Republican U.S. Representative Tim Scott will fill the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by arch-conservative Jim DeMint of South Carolina, becoming the only African-American in the Senate and the first since President Barack Obama.

South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley on Monday chose Scott to replace their fellow Republican and become the first black senator from the South since the late 1800s.

Speculation had centered on Scott, 47, as the likely replacement since DeMint announced on December 6 that he was stepping down from the Senate in order to head the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

But Scott's departure from the House, coupled with the defeat of fellow conservative Allen West of Florida on November 6, will leave the Republicans without a black representative in the lower chamber of Congress.

More than nine out of 10 African-American voters supported the Democrat Obama in the November 6 election, but it is a Republican who becomes the only black in the Senate, the first black Republican since Edward W. Brooke III of Massachusetts lost his seat in 1978.

Scott won his House seat in 2010 by defeating Paul Thurmond, the son of Strom Thurmond, the long-serving South Carolina Republican Senator who ran on a segregationist ticket for president in 1948.

Scott will serve through 2014, when a special election will be held two years earlier than would have been required had DeMint decided to serve out his term. Haley predicted Scott would "sail through" the 2014 election."link to source
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 4:41:33 PM

"One day the USA will get past labels."


Brother, when I see stupid posts like what Jesk posted, that lets me know the US has a long way to go.

Obama didn't degrade my lifestyle, neither did I vote for him because he was black (which seems to be the only reason that Jesk has EVER Offered for voting for Obama), and he also stated that anyone voting for Obama was stupid:

"What could possibly penetrate that impenetrable layer of stupidity?

It's not just minorities...Obozo wouldn't be president today if it weren't for millions of stupid white people."

Yes, as long a people like that keeps spouting their own ignorance day in and day out, America will never see the reality of Martin's dream.

SMH
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 3:59:28 PM

During my time in the service, I was always stunned when someone displayed prejudiced. When I was a young, dumb lieutenant I got paired up with a black man from New York who assumed that I'd have a problem with his color. He must have brought up his color a dozen times that first night in the field exercise. I finally had to just outright tell him, I didn't give a crap if he was purple... As long as he could shoot straight and didn't side with the Florida Gators we'd be fine...

Five years later, when I was the best man at his wedding, I realized that I was the only white man there. And just a couple years ago, which was over two decades since we met, when I was one of pallbearers, again I was the only white man there. Do you know on both of those occasions not one person referred to me by my color.

One day the USA will get past labels. I'm sure that Tim Scott wishes people would just call him the Junior Senator from South Carolina rather than the only black senator.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 2:28:28 PM

"Rnorm, I didn't read it the same way you did but I understand you taking it that way... I didn't see the Poverty issue. "


Reb, MANY conservatives come off just as Jesk does, arrogant and insulting; and as such, its no wonder minorities avoid such folks and avoid the GOP.

And again, its not who's president that determines your standard of living its YOU. If you want to have a good life, get a good education, find a good job and work hard. That's pretty simple and has virtually nothing to do with Obama, or Bush, or Clinton or whoever. And if you want an even better life, then put your life in God's hand and watch what He will do (but that's a different story altogether).

Regardless, as I stated to Jesk, for him and people like him, they erroneously assume most, if not all, minorities live in "degraded lifestyles" and don't know any better.

That is just stupid.

[Edited by: RNorm at 1/9/2013 2:31:00 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 2:13:05 PM

"You erroneously assume that 90% of black people are living in poverty or something or can't think for themselves."

Rnorm, I didn't read it the same way you did but I understand you taking it that way... I didn't see the Poverty issue.

Many people I have talked to (and not just conservatives) have had tough times... My one son has been doing great (GREAT) while another has suffered due to housing debacle (not laying blame just stating fact). From a sales line... He definitely over promised and under delivered, but that is not uncommon for politicians, even though he said he wasn't the same type (becoming a common line now).

"You might start by telling her it was good ol' George Bush who expanded the Lifeline program in 2008 that made her Bush phone possible...Sometimes facts take you much further down the road that lies."

Actually the SEIU and Obama go way back... I'm not sure wasting time with or talking to anyone there would help... But pointing that truth out to others might negate her message...

I live in Chicago and I wasn't familiar with who the SEIU was that was constantly marching in Downtown Chicago back in 2008 when Obama 1st ran. I went to their web site and still didn't know what they did since it was all politicol.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 11:40:06 AM

"It's next to impossible to "reach out to minorities" when you have 90-some percent of blacks voting to re-elect someone who has only degraded their lifestyles with his economic idiocy over the last 4 years. They're not thinking logically and don't seem to understand that Obozo doesn't have their best interests in mind. They just "seems to like the way he talks". (say that with a Gump accent)"


Wow, its this type of crappy ignorance that keeps people running from the GOP. You erroneously assume that 90% of black people are living in poverty or something or can't think for themselves. How stupid. Contrary to your foolish and erroneous generalizations, my life is better now than it was when Obama became president and even moreso than when Bush became president. My improved lifestyle has very little to do with who is in the white house, and very much to do with choices that my wife and I make. And here I thought you conservative types were all about personal responsibility...sadly it seems like you live and die by who is in the white house. I wonder who you blamed for all of your problems before Obama became president? What a sad and pitiful existence that must be. Based on the crap you just posted, I'm pretty sure you don't do well with minority outreach at all...




"So, how to you appeal to such a mindset? What miraculous effort could convince the stupid ObozoPhone lady that "Romney DON'T suck"?? What could possibly penetrate that impenetrable layer of stupidity?"

You might start by telling her it was good ol' George Bush who expanded the Lifeline program in 2008 that made her Bush phone possible...Sometimes facts take you much further down the road that lies.

More stupid examples of conservatives thinking things through? Just dumb.
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 9:43:54 AM

I just heard today that one of the new Republican reps in our Wyoming state house is a black woman. Imagine that, a bunch of Tea Party hicks and cowboys who are usually pegged as the biggest racists and bigots ever, elected a black woman to represent them. Her skin color was so irrelevant that I hadn't even heard that she was black until today. I'm sure the people in her district knew, each district here is only about 10,000 people. I'm glad King's dream of people being judged by the content of their character, instead of by color, is alive and well here.
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 6:51:21 PM

I read earlier today Frank said he would like to fill the vacant seat until an election could be held and a new Senator seated. Then he would move on with his life. We shall see.
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 6:03:04 PM

RNorm said: "Then you can show all those wonderful examples and prove people like McCain and Jindal wrong when they say the GOP needs to reach out to minorities, right?"

It's next to impossible to "reach out to minorities" when you have 90-some percent of blacks voting to re-elect someone who has only degraded their lifestyles with his economic idiocy over the last 4 years. They're not thinking logically and don't seem to understand that Obozo doesn't have their best interests in mind. They just "seems to like the way he talks". (say that with a Gump accent)

So, how to you appeal to such a mindset? What miraculous effort could convince the stupid ObozoPhone lady that "Romney DON'T suck"?? What could possibly penetrate that impenetrable layer of stupidity?

It's not just minorities...Obozo wouldn't be president today if it weren't for millions of stupid white people.

People have been dumbed down so much by the media and the liberal education system that they're too easily manipulated by con artists like Obozo. The only way to fight that is to somehow overpower the liberal media and dismantle the liberal machine that controls our schools. If you can't do that and logical arguments don't work, then I guess you have to stoop to the Democrats' level of throwing out freebies and brainwashing people into saying that the opponent "just suck bad" without having to know anything about that opponent...and that may be just what other Republicans thought that Steele had in mind with his "off the hook" hip-hop PR program.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 1:01:18 PM

Barney Frank decided not to run again because it was clear he was going to lose. To save the embarrassment and have the Dems have a chance of retaining the seat, he "retired".
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:43:52 PM

"Barney Frank is begging for that Senate seat, according to this morning's Drudge Report."


I thought he wanted out of public life, which is why he's retiring from the house?
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:06:55 PM

Barney Frank is begging for that Senate seat, according to this morning's Drudge Report.

[Edited by: no1doc at 1/4/2013 12:08:58 PM EST]
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 11:56:23 AM

Thanks, reb, was just getting there.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 9:21:05 AM

"Wouldn't that mean that a democrat senator would have to step down and there also would have to be a democrat governor to appoint a black democrat to finish out the term of the vacated seat??? "

There is a democratic senate seat that should be available in Massachusettes... And there is a democratic Governor....

Lets see what happens there...
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 2:15:20 PM

With regards to Democrat senators.... all have hailed from Illinois.

Carol Mosley Braun - one term.(6 years)..back in 1993. Only Black woman.

Barack Obama - less than one term... in office 1/2005 - announced candidcy for president in 2/2007.

Roland Burris - Appointed by Rod Blagovich who is currently serving a 14 year sentence in federal prison.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 8:14:40 AM

"So if this Republican appointment is just a token, shouldn't the Democrats have MANY more black senators? I see this as a move in the right direction [no pun intended] for the Republican Party; one hopes the Democrats would follow suit."


Wouldn't that mean that a democrat senator would have to step down and there also would have to be a democrat governor to appoint a black democrat to finish out the term of the vacated seat???
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teacher_tim
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 8:07:42 AM

So if this Republican appointment is just a token, shouldn't the Democrats have MANY more black senators? I see this as a move in the right direction [no pun intended] for the Republican Party; one hopes the Democrats would follow suit.
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Bell30012
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 10:09:23 PM

If you noticed there was a black Presidential candidate from Georgia as well. The south has moved well past those days. I lived in many places in the US and I really don't think that the South is a prejudiced as people believe.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:30:18 PM

"it is a Republican who becomes the only black in the Senate"

Wait...who's the political party of the blacks? More than 90% of blacks vote Democrat, and yet there are no black Democrat Senators?

Actually, If you look up black US Senators, there have only been 7, including Tim Scott and 4 were Republicans. Although, I disagree with including Obama in that list, since he is not black, but bi-racial. Anyway, all 3 Democrats on the list are from Illinois, which if I not mistaken, is not in the South; therefore, while the Republicans have not had black Senator from the South since 1881, the Dems have never had one. I believe there are also far more Democrat than Republican Senators from the South as well.
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 8:36:54 PM

>>"By reaching out to minorities, are you referring to things like giving amnesty to ILLEGAL aliens? "

Now you're just being silly...<<

Isn't that what democrats want Republicans to do?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 8:48:54 AM

"No, I don't think you do because you all continually post things like conservatives are stupid, whites are stupid and the like."

You have never seen me post anything like that. Yet I can very readily find posts that depict all liberals as stupid, or illogical and the like.





"You do not even consider the opinion of people who have a different opinion as worthwhile, but simply ridicule them as well."

I have come to know people from here PERSONALLY, who I don't agree with on subjects, who's opinions I respect and value and I don't ridicule them; so you're wrong again.





"The only whites you listen to are those who agree with your opinions, so there is nothing for you to learn."

Um, my mom is white, so you really don't know what you're talking about and are simply wrong again.




"It goes both ways. "

ONLY when the shoe fits...and in this case, it don't.
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 6:37:57 AM

I'd vote for anyman that makes sense!
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 12:28:25 AM

Rnorm “””No, I don't think you do because you all continually post things like liberals are stupid, blacks are stupid and the like. You do not even consider the opinion of people who have a different opinion as worthwhile, but simply ridicule them as well. The only blacks you listen to are those who agree with your opinions, so there is nothing for you to learn.

Let me turn that statement around for you Rnorm. No, I don't think you do because you all continually post things like conservatives are stupid, whites are stupid and the like. You do not even consider the opinion of people who have a different opinion as worthwhile, but simply ridicule them as well. The only whites you listen to are those who agree with your opinions, so there is nothing for you to learn.

It goes both ways.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 2:22:08 PM

"By reaching out to minorities, are you referring to things like giving amnesty to ILLEGAL aliens? "


Now you're just being silly...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 1:55:16 PM

By reaching out to minorities, are you referring to things like giving amnesty to ILLEGAL aliens?
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 1:48:26 PM

"I don't think they do. "


Then you can show all those wonderful examples and prove people like McCain and Jindal wrong when they say the GOP needs to reach out to minorities, right?

I recall when Michael Steele wanted to make a big GOP push for minorities he was blasted by other republicans, remember:

"Newly elected Republican National Committee Chairman Michael S. Steele plans an “off the hook” public relations offensive to attract younger voters, especially blacks and Hispanics, by applying the party’s principles to “urban-suburban hip-hop settings.”

I remember how Mike was ridiculed by people in his OWN party for saying that, even though what he was saying was true...
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 1:33:41 PM

>>Again, why does the GOP have a poor minority outreach track record?<<

I don't think they do. Hence, my question about why 90% of blacks vote for the party that wants to keep them dependent on the government.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 1:23:42 PM

"I ask democrats all the time why they are democrats. They also cannot answer me."


Being that I've been an independent for almost 30 years now, why would I answer such a question when it doesn't apply?

Again, why does the GOP have a poor minority outreach track record?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:59:11 PM

I guess you can't answer the questions either, btc1.
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:54:24 PM

"Republican Appoints First Black Senator from the South since the 1800's"

Those on the right seem to be so proud.

What took them so long?
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:43:28 PM

I was hoping that you would be able to answer the question, RNorm. I guess I will not get an answer.

I ask democrats all the time why they are democrats. They also cannot answer me.

[Edited by: 101Speedster at 12/22/2012 12:47:11 PM EST]
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:41:46 PM

"I think all of us would love to know what they are, RNorm. This could be very educational. "


No, I don't think you do because you all continually post things like liberals are stupid, blacks are stupid and the like. You do not even consider the opinion of people who have a different opinion as worth while, but simply ridicule them as well. The only blacks you listen to are those who agree with your opinions, so there is nothing for you to learn.

You can't even explain why your own party has poor outreach in the minority communities without blaming other people.

Get real man.
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:32:09 PM

>>"The sad fact is that not many members of the black community want to be part of the Republican Party"<<

RNorm: "There are good reasons for that"

I think all of us would love to know what they are, RNorm. This could be very educational.
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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:05:14 PM

"The sad fact is that not many members of the black community want to be part of the Republican Party "


There are good reasons for that, and many of them are the fault of republicans themselves.

It would serve your cause better to stop blaming the dearth of GOP minority outreach on others and take responsibility for those shortcomings. Many republican leaders have pointed this out to their own shunning by their own party.
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 11:48:48 AM

Calls of "Uncle Tom" and "house negro" from the left in 3 ... 2 ... Wait for it! ...

It’s already been said. One of the liberals interviewed on Fox called him a token and nothing more than an attempt woo blacks. She went on to ask how any black could vote for the Republican Party much less be part of it.

Blacks are told that the conservatives want to put them on plantations and back in chains. That kind bovine excrement comes from Democratic leaders. Black are told from birth that the Democrats will protect them from the evil Republicans and there rich friends.

The sad fact is that not many members of the black community want to be part of the Republican Party and when they do admit they are conservative they are attacked as race traitors and Uncle Toms’ and ostracized.
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 10:26:20 AM

Yet, only 3 Black senators have ever been elected to the United States Senate, and out of 50 States, all 3 hailed from the State of Illinois.

If 13 is strange, what about the 3 lonely Senators, all from 1 state out of 50?

Jeskibuff, you definitely present a great anology of Henry Cain. He was extremely popular, and based on the candidates that were running. He gave a "tea party" response to the 2012 State of the Union address with one of his comments being "Cain referred to Obama's address as a "hodgepodge of liberal ideas," adding that there were "no big ideas that would impact job growth" and "no big ideas that would stimulate economic growth in this country"

Wiki it if any doubts...


[Edited by: reb4 at 12/22/2012 10:29:11 AM EST]
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RNorm
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"That adds up to THIRTEEN (13) people, which seems to smash your allegation to smithereens, doesn't it? "


No smashing at all. Again, just looking at the GOP's history with blacks. Look at your current GOP leadership in house and senate; not a black person in sight and its been that way for a very long time. No surprise there.

You can't explain that, so you come up with everything but anything that addresses that. No surprise there either.




"Your definition of "national" representation seems to be whatever you conveniently want it to be. Any House or Senate member represents their state or district, but does so on a national stage in D.C., as opposed to working in their state/county capital seat as a state/local representative would."

Get real. Not everyone in the house is known on a national level; for that matter many aren't even known statewide in their home state. Do you know all of the members of the Florida house delegation? I doubt it since you routinely ridicule anyone who's not a conservative, so the democratic reps from Florida probably aren't well known by conservatives like yourself.


[Edited by: RNorm at 12/22/2012 10:04:43 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 9:34:42 AM

RNorm said: "Herman didn't make it (y'all turned on him kinda quick there). Watts was a member of the house representing his district (not the state or the nation), West likewise represented his district and not the nation. Maybe you should actually read my question and see what is meant rather than responding with answers that don't address the question?"

Herman dropped out because of the accusations against him, not because of lack of support.

Your definition of "national" representation seems to be whatever you conveniently want it to be. Any House or Senate member represents their state or district, but does so on a national stage in D.C., as opposed to working in their state/county capital seat as a state/local representative would.

Like your statement "Kinda seems like a list of reconstruction era folks, and that wasn't the question now was it?" is conflicted with your earlier question "how come in the 150+ years since reconstruction you haven't been able to find a black person that you can support for national office." that has it's own set of hurdles built into it.

First off, 150+ years ago is anything before 1862.
Reconstruction was 1865-1877. Every person on that list served after 1862.

Every Senator on that list and every House member from James E. O'Hara onward began their terms AFTER 1877. That adds up to THIRTEEN (13) people, which seems to smash your allegation to smithereens, doesn't it?
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 1:56:28 PM

"How much better would the debate about improving education, about dealing with high rates of unemployment and crime in black America if black America allowed itself the freedom of an honest, balanced approach to those issues that was open to conservative views?"

There are black conservatives, but even they react to some of the utterly vile racist crap from SOME of the right--obviously a smaller, and hopefully vanishingly smaller contingent, as time goes by. If the racists would go away, there'd probably be more black conservatives.

Just like there'd probably be more female conservatives, if there wasn't such popularity for utterly vile specimens like Rush "She's a Slut" Limbaugh. Talk about alienating people!
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 1:51:03 PM

There are a lot of uneducated voters in this country.
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 1:21:19 PM

"Liberalism is a disease". That is seen here frequently. Don't deny it.

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RNorm
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 1:17:00 PM

"Come on, man! No one is saying that they suffer from a mental disease."


C'mon Speedy, its said by conservatives all the time:

"The idea that liberalism is a mental disorder was first coined by conservative talk show host Michael Savage in his first book the Savage Nation in 2003. It was then adopted by Ann Coulter in her latest book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, 2006."

Its not like I make this stuff up....




And of course its been stated and reiterated by conservatives around here. People's exhibit 256:

"You tend to become who you associate with..."

Trying to say it on the sly....
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 12:17:32 PM

You tend to become who you associate with...
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 12:15:34 PM

>>And by the same token, if you're black and a liberal, then you are authentically stupid and suffer from a mental disease, as stated by conservatives.<<

Come on, man! No one is saying that they suffer from a mental disease.
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 11:53:44 AM

">>In this perverse racial order, you simply cannot be authentically black if you are conservative – politically or culturally.<<"


And by the same token, if you're black and a liberal, then you are authentically stupid and suffer from a mental disease, as stated by conservatives.

Anyone see the irony in THAT?
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101Speedster
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 11:37:53 AM

>>In this perverse racial order, you simply cannot be authentically black if you are conservative – politically or culturally.<<
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 11:00:38 AM

"The sad truth is that being black in America still automatically places you in a box. Yes, there is rapid growth in America’s minority population. Yes the President is black.

But as Parker suggested, some black Americans still think they have to act, speak and behave in a certain way that conforms to the identity that a white, liberal media has created.

In this perverse racial order, you simply cannot be authentically black if you are conservative – politically or culturally.

The criticism of Griffin – both in public and private – is not really that different from the way black conservatives are disparaged in media, law and politics.

Whenever the mainstream media wants to know what the African American community is thinking, they invariably go to the usual old, left-wing voices, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, as if they speak for all black people.

How much better would the debate about improving education, about dealing with high rates of unemployment and crime in black America if black America allowed itself the freedom of an honest, balanced approach to those issues that was open to conservative views?

Imagine the new vitality in the political discourse inside black America if serious weight was given to the ideas of people like Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of Transportation William Coleman and professors Walter E. Williams and Thomas Sowell?

Instead, these brilliant people, apparently including RGIII, are dismissed as “Uncle Toms” or “cornball” brothers and sisters.

Even thought I am not a Republican, I have experienced some of this same vitriol firsthand. I don’t fit into the traditional liberal box. I work for Fox News. My sons are Republicans.

I appear regularly on Fox News with strong right of center voices, like Bill O’Reilly and even consistently conservative personalities like Sean Hannity (both of whom I consider friends). I think it is great to engage the other side in the arena of ideas. I am happy to agree with them when I think they are right and respectfully disagree with them when I think they are wrong.

I often defend the first black President Obama against the litany of unfair attacks on his record and character from the far right but I also am critical of him as an American political powerbroker when I see flaws, failure and hypocrisy in his record.

Many on the left would prefer if I did not appear on television with folks like O’Reilly and Hannity, spurned them socially and just called them a bunch of racists."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/20/robert-griffin-iii-rob-parker-and-sad-truth-about-our-racial-politics/#ixzz2FhdAOxWB
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reb4
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 9:24:41 AM

I still find it extremely odd, that the Democratic party has not been able to elect more than 3 senators that were black..And out of the 50 states in the union, only one state has had a black senator (3 times). And... (this is fun), in the race for Senate that our current president was elected back in 2004, the "other" candidate was also "black".

97% of the people of Illinois voted for a black candidate for senate...

Anyone else find any irony here...

[Edited by: reb4 at 12/21/2012 9:25:25 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 7:56:22 AM

"Those are just off the top of my head...I'm sure there are more. How come in 150+ years, you can't even remember these 3 very recent instances? "


Herman didn't make it (y'all turned on him kinda quick there). Watts was a member of the house representing his district (not the state or the nation), West likewise represented his district and not the nation. Maybe you should actually read my question and see what is meant rather than responding with answers that don't address the question?




"That's 28 names right there (Tim Scott not counted twice). Kind of takes all the steam out of your argument, doesn't it RNorm?"

Kinda seems like a list of reconstruction era folks, and that wasn't the question now was it?
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 7:03:44 AM

...and a quick internet search has rendered this compiled list:

Senators:
1) Edward William Brooke, III Republican Massachusetts 1967–1979
2) Tim Scott Republican South Carolina (elected to the House, appointed to the Senate)

House:
(Representative/Party/State/Term/Lifespan/Former slave?/Reason for leaving)
3) John Willis Menard[4] Republican Louisiana 1868 1838–1893 No Denied seat on the basis of an election challenge
4) Joseph Rainey Republican South Carolina 1870–1879 1832–1887 Yes Lost re-election
5) Jefferson F. Long Republican Georgia 1870–1871 1836–1901 Yes Retired
6) Robert C. De Large Republican South Carolina 1871–1873 1842–1874 No Seat declared vacant as the result of an election and racial challenge initiated by Christopher C. Bowen
7) Robert B. Elliott Republican South Carolina 1871–1874 1842–1884 No Resigned and in 1876 elected South Carolina Attorney General
8) Benjamin S. Turner Republican Alabama 1871–1873 1825–1894 Yes Lost re-election
9) Josiah T. Walls Republican Florida 1871–1873, 1873–1876 1842–1905 Yes Removed from seat both times due to racial reasons in favour of Jesse Finley and Silas L. Niblack
10) Richard H. Cain Republican South Carolina 1873–1875, 1877–1879 1825–1887 No Retired
11) John R. Lynch Republican Mississippi 1873–1877, 1882–1883 1847–1939 Yes In 1876 was not allowed to take his seat due to racial reasons and in 1883 lost re-election
12) James T. Rapier Republican Alabama 1873–1875 1837–1883 No Lost re-election
13) Alonzo J. Ransier Republican South Carolina 1873–1875 1834–1882 No Former Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina and retired
14) Jeremiah Haralson Republican Alabama 1875–1877 1846–1916 Yes Lost re-election
15) John Adams Hyman Republican North Carolina 1875–1877 1840–1891 Yes Lost re-nomination
16) Charles E. Nash Republican Louisiana 1875–1877 1844–1913 No Lost re-election
17) Robert Smalls Republican South Carolina 1875–1879, 1882–1883, 1884–1887 1839–1915 Yes Lost re-election and retired
18) James E. O'Hara Republican North Carolina 1883–1887 1844–1905 No Lost re-election
19) Henry P. Cheatham Republican North Carolina 1889–1893 1857–1935 Yes Lost re-election
20) John Mercer Langston Republican Virginia 1890–1891 1829–1897 No Lost re-election
21) Thomas E. Miller Republican South Carolina 1890–1891 1849–1938 No Lost re-election
22) George W. Murray Republican South Carolina 1893–1895, 1896–1897 1853–1926 Yes Lost re-election
23) George Henry White Republican North Carolina 1897–1901 1852–1918 No Lost re-election
24) Oscar Stanton De Priest Republican Illinois 1929–1935 1871–1951 Lost re-election
25) Gary Franks Republican Connecticut 1991–1997 1953– Lost re-election
26) J. C. Watts Republican Oklahoma 1995–2003 1957– Retired
*) Tim Scott Republican South Carolina 2011–2013 1965– Appointed to Senate by South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley to replace Jim DeMint
27) Allen West Republican Florida 2011–present 1961– Lost re-election
28) Melvin H. Evans Republican Virgin Islands 1979–1981 1917–1984 Lost re-election

That's 28 names right there (Tim Scott not counted twice). Kind of takes all the steam out of your argument, doesn't it RNorm?

[Edited by: jeskibuff at 12/21/2012 7:08:51 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 6:52:59 AM

RNorm said: "how come in the 150+ years since reconstruction you haven't been able to find a black person that you can support for national office."

Was Herman Cain white?

How about J.C. Watts?

Allen West?

Those are just off the top of my head...I'm sure there are more. How come in 150+ years, you can't even remember these 3 very recent instances?
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