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St. Louis

Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 12:54:04 PM

This is an example of why I laugh in the face of every union worker who complains about being out of work.

If I were running a company and the employees voted in a union on Monday night the doors would be locked on Tuesday morning. If it’s my company I will decide who works there and who I fire.

Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated.
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Champion Author Orlando

Joined:Mar 2010
Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 8:00:46 AM

>>"Might explain the horrible quality ratings that Cherokees get..."<<

It might also explain why Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chairwoman of the DNC, drives a made-in-Japan Infinity FX35.

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Champion Author Indiana

Joined:Feb 2004
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:37:00 PM

this year, the main purpose of unions was to get obama re elected, and they did their job well. Now we get another four years, of obamanomics. After another term of obamanomics, will damage done to the country be repairable?
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Champion Author St. Louis

Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 12:45:20 PM

In the company I work for management tried to give the mechanics a larger raise than the drivers. The drivers blocked the contract until the mechanics raise was brought back down to the level of the drivers. The union is about 75% black with the vast majority of the drivers being black and about half the mechanics being black. About fifteen years ago the mechanics decided we didn’t have enough say in the union so we tried to get another second vice president who would be a representative for the mechanics. The executive vice president sent out letters to all of what he thought were black drivers stating in part “ don’t let the Nazi Good Wrench Mechanics have their way.” Later when the company pushed a raise through for the mechanics that was lager than the drivers. I was a whopping 2% larger over three years. The same man stood on the steps of the city court house and said it wasn’t a perfect contract but the “over paid white mechanics got too much.””

As a mechanic I had a rickety old transmission jack dump a transmission onto the floor just as I was about to crawl under it, the transmission weighted about 750lbs. I couldn’t get my shop steward to even address the issue.

I went to the dark side and am now in management with the same company.
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Champion Author Louisville

Joined:Sep 2005
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:13:32 AM

nstrdnvstr, "That union, Local #17 is ethically inept and morally bankrupt"

IOW, they are functioning normally as unions everywhere do.

What is your point?

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Champion Author Los Angeles

Joined:Aug 2004
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 10:32:52 AM

nst - how did you get out of the union? Did you change jobs, or did you exercise RTW?

Also, it might have been funny of you to say to this "witch": "You want me out? OK, tell you what. You give me my 29 years of union dues back, with interest, and I'll go find another company? How about it?" You might have also said to her: "You're not my boss. In fact, I'm YOUR boss. You are here to serve me, not the other way around. Do your job or I'll get YOU fired!"
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Champion Author Montgomery

Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 10:10:13 AM

Chrysler got bent over by the union on this one. They should have stood their ground. Employees drinking and doing drugs on the job are dangerous employees.
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Champion Author Maryland

Joined:May 2004
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:36:11 AM

Might explain the horrible quality ratings that Cherokees get...
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Champion Author Twin Cities

Joined:May 2001
Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 1:23:54 AM

When I was in a union (not that long ago) the union president threatened my job. She said "We don't like you, we don't want you working here, why don't you go find a job somewhere else. Of course they didn't have a problem taking my forced union dues for 29 years! That union, Local #17 is ethically inept and morally bankrupt.
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Champion Author San Bernardino

Joined:Jan 2007
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 9:43:23 PM

California Employees Umion is very powerful, they get what they want period

Life Time Medical
Life Time Visdon & a host of other perks PLUS retirement increases

Sept 2008 my retirement portfolio lost $280K-=-=-they expect the tax payers to give them $$ for what was lost

What a piece of BULL POOP
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Champion Author Phoenix

Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 8:26:10 PM

Many years ago, many companies would sacrifice worker safety and take advantage of workers by working people in a manner similar to sweat shops with garbage pay. These employees organized and spoke in one voice to pressure these companies to pay fair wages in safe working conditions.

The federal government stepped in, they created OSHA, along with regulations that provide employee safety. They created the department of labor, and set minimum guidelines for wages, overtime, and employee breaks.

Now, unions have changed their focus, to more of a hostile takeover of company operation and strong arming business for wages, benefits, and working conditions that are often times crafted to extremes compared to their non-union counterparts. They operate quite similarly to how organized crime operates, there are pay-offs, insider deals, corruption, and manipulation of company resources that are not designed for any other reason than to create false needs for its members.

The purpose of unions has run its course, and is now just a way to leverage as much life blood from a company that it can get.
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Champion Author Cincinnati

Joined:May 2008
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 6:05:07 PM

The unions are being decimated everyplace except one, the federal government. Could it be coincidence that the federal government is the only entity capable of spending what it doesn't have and printing money? I don't think so.

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Champion Author Los Angeles

Joined:Aug 2004
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 1:15:23 PM

It seems to me the only purpose of a union is to collect as many dues to enrich the union bosses as possible. The only way they can do that is to keep union guys (even the ones who are drunks, thieves and miscreants) employed any way they can.

It seems to me the unions will die out. It's already happening. The unions future is, in effect, to act as first line management to prevent this needless garbage. If the unions will not police themselves and act as their own first line management (and bringing value to the companies they supposedly serve), they will find themselves obsolete. They have largely already been obsolted by labor laws that give union-like protection to ALL workers.
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Champion Author Utah

Joined:Aug 2008
Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 1:11:11 PM

Looks like another example of Unions being on the wrong side of logic and reason. But they are for the workers --- now if one of these drugged up idiots does something that results in someone being hurt of killed because they were too messed up to do their job - will the union pay?

But if people really believe that they can do an adequate job under the influence of drugs - maybe the job can be done by robots better and cheaper.

The question should be - did they know it was against the rules to drink and drug on the job? If they did (and they should) and they chose to do it anyway - they should have been fired for cause and the union should have agreed.
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