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johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 10:47:06 AM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse Sen. Donne Trotter, a Chicago Democrat, was carrying an unloaded .25-caliber Beretta handgun and a magazine clip with six bullets when he tried to board a flight at O’Hare International Airport, according to Chicago police. Once again we see the attitude of do as I say not as I do coming from gun control Democrats. Sen. Donne Trotter has a permit to carry the gun for his security job only and no more than one hour commute each way. Not only did he have the gun when he tried to get onto an airplane he was headed to Washington D.C., another city with very restrictive gun control laws. He would have carrying the gun illegally there also. Sen. Donne Trotter was in favor of the Brady bill and supports the “assault” weapon ban. He has also been an opponent of concealed carry for the average citizen in Illinois. But of course this would not apply to him. The gun he had was a .25 caliber Beretta handgun. The last time I heard in Missouri a security guard can only carry a wheel gun, no autos and it has to be a .38 or smaller. Can anyone tell me what the law is in Illinois? Also I could be wrong but I don’t think Beretta makes a wheel gun. Now this one is for the anti gun crowd, Should this man got to jail and or have his gun rights revoked? He carried the gun into an airport and tried to board a plane. He was carless with his gun because he obviously didn’t know where his gun was, that’s giving him the benefit of the doubt. - State senator accused of having gun in bag at O’Hare -

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Sen. Donne Trotter, a Chicago Democrat, was carrying an unloaded .25-caliber Beretta handgun and a magazine clip with six bullets when he tried to board a flight at O’Hare International Airport, according to Chicago police.

Once again we see the attitude of do as I say not as I do coming from gun control Democrats. Sen. Donne Trotter has a permit to carry the gun for his security job only and no more than one hour commute each way. Not only did he have the gun when he tried to get onto an airplane he was headed to Washington D.C., another city with very restrictive gun control laws. He would have carrying the gun illegally there also.

Sen. Donne Trotter was in favor of the Brady bill and supports the “assault” weapon ban. He has also been an opponent of concealed carry for the average citizen in Illinois. But of course this would not apply to him.

The gun he had was a .25 caliber Beretta handgun. The last time I heard in Missouri a security guard can only carry a wheel gun, no autos and it has to be a .38 or smaller. Can anyone tell me what the law is in Illinois? Also I could be wrong but I don’t think Beretta makes a wheel gun.

Now this one is for the anti gun crowd, Should this man got to jail and or have his gun rights revoked? He carried the gun into an airport and tried to board a plane. He was carless with his gun because he obviously didn’t know where his gun was, that’s giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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State senator accused of having gun in bag at O’Hare
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Snowchoux Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,003 Points:145,635 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:00:28 PM Ignore Snowchoux Report Abuse Politicians are just like this slob/thieving cop that lives by me, they are above the law. Say something to them about their bad behavior and be prepared to endure their wrath.
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,845 Points:2,928,295 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 11:57:08 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Well, Johnny, I'd tell you this is Chicago Democratic Machine politics that are only slightly more disgusting than normal. Politically speaking, Obama comes from this slime bucket. This is what the nation can expect since better than 50% of us elected him. I wish the American people would wake up and demand integrity from their leaders, regardless of party. Too many folks here that are registered as Dems refuse to criticize other Dems when they exhibit bad behavior. It's apparently OK when they belong to the Dem party, and their excuse is often something like: "Well, the Republicans are worse because even though their infractions are less serious, they ALWAYS tout themselves as the party of family values, so that makes it 10 times worse." OK, so the Democrats are less bad because they're NOT interested in family values? Hmm... how does that work?
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 5:41:18 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse I think Trotter has a couple problems to deal with and none of them are good for an anti-gun candidate. First his gun wasn’t registered in Chicago as is required by law. Second the gun was not registered to his home address as required by law. Third is how he got the CCW permit. He claims to be working for a security company but it is not listed on his financial disclosure form as required by law. Fourth is the fact that the company he claims to be working for has a contract with the city worth about five million dollars a year, I quoted that number from memory so the number could be off. And fifth if he can’t produce a W-2 or some form of proof he really works for the security company he may have goten his CCW fraudulently. All of this comes from a man who is doing everything in his power to prevent the rest of us from having a CCW as he tries to restrict other firearms. All I can say is Chicago politics at its finniest.
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 5:29:26 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse Jdhelm thanks for the link. The one I tried to use was from the NBC Chicago affiliate and GB didn’t like it. I really need to learn how to use tinyurl.
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:12,141 Points:1,225,615 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 3:58:35 PM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse NBC News Trotter out of race to replace JJJ
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:12,141 Points:1,225,615 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 3:38:13 PM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse . [Edited by: jdhelm at 12/28/2012 3:39:33 PM EST]
BlackGumTree Champion Author Virginia Posts:18,439 Points:1,459,665 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 3:31:35 PM Ignore BlackGumTree Report Abuse The United States Constitution gives every citizen the right to KEEP and Bear arms. Do any representatives of lesser governments have permits to take away constitutional rights of any citizen?
jrbhunter Veteran Author Indiana Posts:338 Points:148,200 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:52:33 AM Ignore jrbhunter Report Abuse The US Government, especially the leftist, will continue to grasp at every possible straw as an opportunity to promote "Gun Control". It's their livelyhood, making more people dependant on the government and making those carrying the burden unable to resist it. Job security at it's finest. "Gun Control" is an twisted propoganda terminology in itself. Is that like calling your mother an attractive scarlet? Guns don't need the control. Approximately 10,000 people die in gun related crimes each year. More die to baseball bats, poisons and accidental falls. The number of people dying in "Shooting Spree's" is so miniscule it doesn't even show up on the radar... below lightening and jelly fish stings. You're much more likely to be a victim of violent crime like rape, assault or kidnapping (all preventable by CCW) than you are to die in one of these horrific and appauling shooting sprees. Kind of like choking on a carrot, odds are so low the benefits of them outweigh the risk. To apply a term like "control" toward firearms in general is unacceptable to me. Why don't we just start something like "crime control" or "parole control" and reduce the number of people killed by hammers, ball bats & guns all at once?!?! Even old school democrats are starting to see where this party is going. Welfare is booming, foriegn policy is centered on apologies and apathy, religion is under fire and gun rights are at risk anytime the news comes up with emotional frame grabs from a horrific crime scene. More murders occur in Chicago than Afghanistan, but to our media it's irrelevant that our current president came from that Chicago Political Machine? If his presence, his excellence, his problem solving in relation to gun control are remotely adequate- why is there blood running in the streets of his hometown? He (and the left) are not truely concerned about the blood, it helps push their agenda and keep more sheeple under their thumb.
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 9:37:53 AM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse Here is an update on the hypocritical gun control politician who doesn’t want the average citizen to have the right to carry a concealed weapon. State Sen. Donne Trotter, once considered the front-runner in the race to replace Jesse Jackson Jr., was bused trying to get a hand gun and ammunition past security at a Chicago Airport. After his arrest he said he planned to continue his run for Jesse Jackson Jr. open seat. On December 27th his hypocrisy came home to roost. He announced he is no longer seeking to replace Jesse Jackson Jr. - You will have to copy and paste the link. http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/senator-donne-trotter-jesse-jackson-seat-special-election-184986851.html [Edited by: johnnyg1200 at 12/28/2012 9:42:36 AM EST]
owt Champion Author Tennessee Posts:10,300 Points:1,591,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 5:58:35 PM Ignore owt Report Abuse I believe there should be a lot of gun control.....everyone should have a LOT of gun control, aim at what they are aiming at and hit what they aim at. That's "gun control".
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,845 Points:2,928,295 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 1:38:54 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse RNorm said: "BUT, you can't be saying the average citizen can't legally have concealed weapon but voting to make sure you can." --I'm not sure I understand your comment. Back in the day, in Illinios, only cops, security guards and some private investigators could carry guns. Normal citizens have NO means of getting a CCW permit as it didn't and doesn't exist there. So if you're asking if citizens can carry in Illinois, the answer is to this day: No! And the Dem "machine" has been trying to keep the citizens of IL from even bringing this issue to vote. Johnnyg - what would be the rationale behind only allowing revolvers to be carried by security guards? Particularly when your various cops probably carry 9mm, .40S&W or possibly 10mm automatics? And why only .38 spl? Why not, .357 or even .44 spl? After all, you do use guns to stop robberies, or at least deter them. [Edited by: AC-302 at 12/9/2012 1:43:17 PM EST]
Teslukbla Champion Author Missouri Posts:25,565 Points:2,970,595 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 1:14:01 PM Ignore Teslukbla Report Abuse "Once again we see the attitude of do as I say not as I do coming from gun control Democrats. Sen. Donne Trotter has a permit to carry the gun for his security job only and no more than one hour commute each way. Not only did he have the gun when he tried to get onto an airplane he was headed to Washington D.C., another city with very restrictive gun control laws. He would have carrying the gun illegally there also." Trotter should have found a job as a security guard for the airline.
jeskibuff Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,034 Points:1,474,860 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 7:18:25 AM Ignore jeskibuff Report Abuse YDraigGoch said: "Only a stupid Chicago politician would carry a .25 and think he was protected from anyone." So...you're saying that Obozo is packing a .25? ;)
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 10:20:15 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse Living less than five miles from the Illinois state line I have a lot of friends that live there. One thing I have heard of for years is people getting a permit to carry with a bogus job as a security officer. I thought that this may be the case here because for the life of me I couldn't understand why a 62 year old state senator would be in Springfield all day and then work as a security guard all night in Chicago planning to get on a plane at 7 or 8 am. I withheld my suspicions until I saw it someplace else. Now some of the right wing web sites are starting to announce that Trotter didn’t list the security job on his financial disclosure. If this proves to be true Trotter is a prime example of “the rules apply to everyone but me.” As I said I will wait until we start to get more solid information, but it’s starting to look like I may have been right about the paper job used to get a CCW.
PatAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:9,285 Points:123,500 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 11:28:50 AM Ignore PatAZ Report Abuse Good one YDraig.
YDraigGoch Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,346 Points:86,435 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 4:22:14 PM Ignore YDraigGoch Report Abuse Only a stupid Chicago politician would carry a .25 and think he was protected from anyone.
Guitar_Man Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:8,528 Points:126,470 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 3:25:33 PM Ignore Guitar_Man Report Abuse Not surprised...Congress is exempt from Social Security requirements and Obamacare and a host of other things so why obey any laws we mere commoners and subjects have to? (But a .25 cal? Gosh, I'd rather have a big can of mace over that girly gun!)
teacher_tim Champion Author Maryland Posts:15,898 Points:749,380 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 2:25:14 PM Ignore teacher_tim Report Abuse He should face the exact same consequences as anyone else who brings a gun illegally into an airport and tries to board a plane with it.
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 1:53:01 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse I need to make a correction. I just found out from our head of security that Missouri changed its law effective September that security officers can now carry up to a 40 cal and they can carry autos. I will keep trying to find out what the law is in Illinois.
RNorm Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:45,195 Points:794,535 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 10:50:38 AM Ignore RNorm Report Abuse Its possible that he made an honest mistake, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. BUT, you can't be saying the average citizen can't legally have concealed weapon but voting to make sure you can. THAT is the problem with congress now; the laws they make don't apply to themselves; just everyone else.